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Even Hunting and Fishing Are Too Sophisticated for the Typical Denier

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Bret Cahill

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Sep 25, 2012, 12:20:21 AM9/25/12
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A fisherman might not want to catch bait fish but he knows that's
where to look to find larger fish.

A denier is too stoopid to figger this out.

A denier would say, "hey, the fish I'm after have nothing whatsoever
to do with bait fish."

Folks, that's the mentality of deniers -- too $%#$@! to even catch
fish.


Bret Cahill

BeamMeUpScotty

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Sep 25, 2012, 9:45:57 AM9/25/12
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I go net the bait where it's easy and then go off shore and away from
the bait to catch the BIGGER more practical fish that are big enough for
the fry pan.


The fish I'm after don't hang out in shallow pools of warm water....


You look that the bait fish and assume you will catch something there, I
look at the bait fish and see a lot of water (variables) between the
bait and the BIG fish I really want to actually catch.




Did we wear-out that metaphor yet?




Bret Cahill

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Sep 25, 2012, 11:46:43 AM9/25/12
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> > A fisherman might not want to catch bait fish but he knows that's
> > where to look to find larger fish.
>
> > A denier is too stoopid to figger this out.
>
> > A denier would say, "hey, the fish I'm after have nothing whatsoever
> > to do with bait fish."
>
> > Folks, that's the mentality of deniers -- too $%#$@! to even catch
> > fish.
>
> > Bret Cahill
>
> I go net the bait where it's easy and then go off shore and away from
> the bait to catch the BIGGER more practical fish that are big enough for
> the fry pan.
>
> The fish I'm after don't hang out in shallow pools of warm water....

I've seen 200 lb porpoises fishing in the flats near St. Pete, mullet
flying all over the place trying to escape.

The water wasn't even 3 feet deep.

> You look that the bait fish and assume you will catch something there, I
> look at the bait fish and see a lot of water (variables) between the
> bait and the BIG fish I really want to actually catch.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/browse_frm/thread/f6d8a330d553aab0/4e4af6e0f8720b66?hl=en#4e4af6e0f8720b66

> Did we wear-out that metaphor yet?

It wasn't a metaphor.

To fish you need to know something about the food web. Deniers deny
that there _is_ a food web.


Bret Cahill


Immortalist

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Sep 25, 2012, 12:17:40 PM9/25/12
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Sounds like they need some psychotherapy, perhaps some ecopsychology?

Ecopsychology studies the relationship between human beings and the
natural world through ecological and psychological principles. The
field seeks to develop and understand ways of expanding the emotional
connection between individuals and the natural world, thereby
assisting individuals with developing sustainable lifestyles and
remedying alienation from nature.

Ecopsychology attempts to examine why people continue environmentally
damaging behaviour, and to develop methods of positive motivation for
adopting sustainable practices.

Evidence suggests that many environmentally damaging behaviours are
addictive at some level, and thus are more effectively addressed
through positive emotional fulfillment rather than by inflicting
shame.

The main premise of ecopsychology is that while today the human mind
is shaped by the modern social world, it is adapted to the natural
environment in which it evolved. According to the "biophilia
hypothesis" of biologist E.O. Wilson, human beings have an innate
instinct to connect emotionally with nature...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecopsychology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biophilia_hypothesis

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> Bret Cahill

BeamMeUpScotty

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Sep 25, 2012, 12:47:28 PM9/25/12
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On 9/25/2012 11:46 AM, Bret Cahill wrote:
>>> A fisherman might not want to catch bait fish but he knows that's
>>> where to look to find larger fish.
>>
>>> A denier is too stoopid to figger this out.
>>
>>> A denier would say, "hey, the fish I'm after have nothing whatsoever
>>> to do with bait fish."
>>
>>> Folks, that's the mentality of deniers -- too $%#$@! to even catch
>>> fish.
>>
>>> Bret Cahill
>>
>> I go net the bait where it's easy and then go off shore and away from
>> the bait to catch the BIGGER more practical fish that are big enough for
>> the fry pan.
>>
>> The fish I'm after don't hang out in shallow pools of warm water....
>
> I've seen 200 lb porpoises fishing in the flats near St. Pete, mullet
> flying all over the place trying to escape.
>
> The water wasn't even 3 feet deep.

I don't eat flipper meat but a good manatee steak MMMmmmm MMMMm MMMM....
you might catch a smaller redfish or a snook only you won't likely do
it in the summer heat. The shallow water gets too warm for the bigger
fish, and they move out to deeper waters.


Just one of those (variables) I mentioned.

http://www.cyberangler.com/fishing-reports/florida/sarasota/

While reading you'll notice the bait is in the flats, the actual reports
of catching of fish is in the 6 ft depth. In the winter the BIG fish
move into shallows/flats during warm days.

But NOT everyone goes fishing to catch fish, you could just set and
watch the birds in those flats, they like the bait.

Immortalist

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Sep 25, 2012, 1:20:37 PM9/25/12
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On Sep 25, 9:47 am, BeamMeUpScotty
Law 8: Make Other People Come To You Use Bait If Necessary

When you force the other person to act, you are the one in control. It
is always better to make your opponent come to you, abandoning his own
plans in the process. Lure him with fabulous gains—then attack. You
hold the cards.

Keep others reacting to your moves, keep them on the defensive. Play
to their ineffectiveness to stay calm. Don’t waste a lot of energy
trying to make your point, bide your time like Talleyrand. Make the
other person come to you, set the bait.

The 48 Laws of Power
http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2011/05/law-8-make-other-people-come-to-you-use.html

> >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/browse_frm/thread/f...

Bret Cahill

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Sep 25, 2012, 2:03:52 PM9/25/12
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> When you force the other person to act, you are the one in control. It
> is always better to make your opponent come to you, abandoning his own
> plans in the process. Lure him with fabulous gains—then attack. You
> hold the cards.
>
> Keep others reacting to your moves, keep them on the defensive. Play
> to their ineffectiveness to stay calm. Don’t waste a lot of energy
> trying to make your point, bide your time like Talleyrand. Make the
> other person come to you, set the bait.

That worked for the GOP for years. The problem, however, is like a
lot of addictive drugs, you have to do more and more each year to get
the same results.

Now everyone in the GOP is trying to out do everyone else in the nut
job dept.


Bret Cahill



> The 48 Laws of Powerhttp://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2011/05/law-8-make-other-people-c...
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