adv advertising agencies -- "Madison Avenue"
ago Antique stores: ages.ago; years.ago; antiques.ago
air Airlines; SCUBA diving supplies; air-conditioning.
apt Apartments; real estate agents.
art Artists; art galleries.
bad Performing artists and musicians; "Guitars.bad"
bed Furniture stores; garden stores.
big Commercial ploy: sizes.big; sales.big; values.big.
bio Biological: healthfoods.bio; lawncare.bio; pets.bio.
biz .com alternative.
bug Exterminators
buy Anything commercial.
cab Taxicab companies.
car New and used car sales.
cat Feline supplies.
civ Civic or civilian entities, foundations, or charities.
cut Hairdressers, lawnmowers, etc.
dad As in "Daddy"; gifts for dad; greeting cards; etc.
dba .com alternative: "doing business as"
det Detective agencies.
dev Developers.
dna Genetics-related business; genealogy.
dvd Digital Video Disk stores.
ear Ear doctors.
eat Restaurants.
eng Engineering firms.
esq Attorneys; lawyers; men's clothing stores.
etc Miscellaneous merchandise.
eye Eye doctors; opticians; sun-glasses.
ext Anything "extended" such as extended warranties, etc.
fam Family.
fly Travel agencies; commuter airlines.
fyi "For Your Information": referral or information services.
gag Toy and novelty stories; humorous performers.
gal Girls: clothing, employment, health, etc.
gas Service stations, gas companies, etc.
geo Travel agencies, geologists, earth-moving firms.
get .com alternative: "Get (whatever) here!"
gun Weapons.
hot .com alternative: "It's hot and it's here."
hub .com alternative and alternative to "center".
inc .com alternative for "incorporated" firms.
inn Hotels, restaurants, bed-and-breakfasts.
iou Lenders, savings-and-loans, pawn shops.
jam Music (jam sessions); fruit preserves.
job Employment agencies.
jun Anything "junior" or "younger".
kid Children's wares; anything for kids.
lab Laboratories; photography shops.
law Attorneys, lawyers.
lib Libraries.
low As in "prices".
lux As in "deluxe"
mad "madness" as a marketing gag: scientist.mad
mag Magazines.
map Travel agencies; map stores.
med Medical.
men Masculine: clothing, health, etc.
mfg Manufacturers.
mod As in "modern" "remodel" "modify" etc.
mom As in "mom" or "mother".
mot Motors: car sales, services stations.
mrs As in "housewife" or "married woman"; Mrs.
mus Museums; music.
new .com variant: homes.new; clothes.new; cars.new.
ngo Non Government Organization.
not Commercial ploy: boring.not; old.not; yuppie.not; boomer.not.
now Immediacy of service: loans.now; sports.now; meals.now.
nun Convents and nunneries.
odd Commercial ploy: antiques.odd; sundries.odd; souvenirs.odd.
off Removal services: stains.off; junk.off;
oil Oil companies large and small; heating oil.
old Commercial ploy: Anything used or venerable.
one Commercial ploy: quality.one; choice.one; source.one.
out Commercial ploy: food.take.out; dine.out; pests.out.
pal Commercial ploy for friendly service: repairs.pal, etc.
pay .com specialised alternative: loans.pay; bills.pay, etc.
pet Pet stores.
phd Expert services or advice: consultants.phd; assistance.phd.
pro Commercial ploy: "professional": golf.pro; yachts.pro, etc.
pub Publishing houses; taverns.
qed Quod Erat Demonstrandum: demos.qed; shows.qed; exhibits.qed
ray Lighting services: lamps.ray; windows.ray; etc.
red Commercial ploy: roses.red; chimneys.red; lipsticks.red.
rig Commercial ploy: drilling.rig; automotive.rig.
rpm Revolutions per minute: automobiles, turbines, etc.
rug Carpets and carpet cleaning.
run Commercial ploy: messengers.run; bicycles.run, etc.
say Commercial ploy: messages.say; stockprices.say; etc.
sch Schools; examination preparations: toddlers.sch; exams.sch.
sea Anything marine or maritime: tours.sea; delicacies.sea.
sky Commercial ploy: helicopters.sky; lessons.sky; etc.
sol Commercial ploy: vacations.sol; gardens.sol; outfits.sol.
spa Resorts; vacation destinations.
sub Anything low: basements.sub; prices.sub; leases.sub.
sue Attorneys, lawyers: damages.sue; injuries.sue; etc.
sun Commercial ploy: vacations.sun; decks.sun; gardens.sun.
tag Commercial ploy: lowprices.tag; used.tag; sticker.tag.
tap Commercial ploy: beer.tap; plumbing.tap; etc.
tba To-Be-Announced: weather.tba; reviews.tba; specials.tba.
tel Telephone companies or services: stockquotes.tel; etc.
tip Commercial ploy: entertainment.tip; restaurants.tip.
top Commercial ploy: quality.top; success.top; etc.
toy Commercial ploy: christmas.toy; gifts.toy; games.toy.
try For introductory offers: samples.try; firsttime.try; etc.
url Web-hosting services: businesscards.url; promo.url; etc.
usa Commercial ploy: vacations.usa; tours.usa; etc.
use Commercial ploy: rentals.use; appliances.use; tools.use.
van Commercial ploy: trucks.van; movers.van; etc.
var Value Added Reseller: computers.var; equipment.var; etc.
vcr Video rentals.
vet Veterinarians.
vip Very Important Person: hotels.vip; services.vip; etc.
vox Anything voice-related: music.vox; radio.vox; pagers.vox.
war Commercial ploy: lowprices.war; sellout.war; games.war.
way .com alternative: travel.way; autos.way; tickets.way; etc.
wed Wedding business: photos.wed; flowers.wed; gowns.wed; etc.
wee Commercial ploy: children.wee; infants.wee; sizes.wee.
why Commercial ploy: bestdeals.why; solutions.why; answers.why.
win Commercial ploy: prizes.win; awards.win; trophies.win; etc.
wow Commercial ploy: beauty.wow; results.wow; performance.wow.
xyz Various and sundry: antiques.xyz; books.xyz; anything.xyz.
yes Commercial ploy: repairs.yes; quickservice.yes; cheap.yes.
you Commercial ploy: please.you; justfor.you; remind.you.
zoo zoological gardens (zoos): toys.zoo; pets.zoo; kids.zoo.
Did you mean to say "belongs to english-speaking people?" Most of those
names are non-intuitive to the majority of the world's population.
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Arthur T. Murray <uj...@victoria.tc.ca> wrote in message
news:38cc...@news.victoria.tc.ca...
[snip of list of tlds]
.reg for those who want to enforce trademarks over
domain names. All other tlds would be free of any
arbitration involving trademarks and domain names.
Trademakers would have to use .reg or do without
political enforcement of special economic rights
entailed in the trademark scheme. (.tm is a ccTLD)
Pan "wondering how fast this idea will be ignored"
*IEA000A 00A,INT REQ,02,0E00,4000,,,RDR
IEF403I MURRAYU STARTED TIME=17.36.12
IFC896I BULLSHIT STATEMENT DETECTED ON SYSIN
IEF450I MURRAYU .USENET .READ ABEND S0B5 TIME=17.36.33
IEF285I SYS00072.T173612.RV000.MURRAYU.S000001 DELETED
IEF285I VOL SER NOS= SPOOL1.
IEF403I MURRAYU ENDED TIME=17.36.45
IEF429I INITIATOR 'USENET' WAITING FOR WORK
(A clue, free of charge, special today: The Internet belongs to those who
spent trillions of dollars on installing and operating communications
facilities and infrastructure, not to some left-wing notion of the entire
human race or some such. MCI and so on aren't running their massive networks
out of the goodness of their hearts.)
That's a cheap sneer, and not an awfully accurate one. Chrysler and
Rolls-Royce are now German. General Motors may be Japanese any day now. And
that's just machinery.
It wasn't too long ago that a bunch of good ol' boys in Malaysia came within
an ace of snapping up British Telecom. (An oddity: my eldest daughter spends
her spare time commuting around to see her friends from Japanese and New
Zealand school days; her time seems to be spent mostly in Malaysia and
Spain. I'm sure I'll be the last to learn the details...) Tetley Tea
returned to India this week. As The Economist slugged it: the Empire Strikes
Back.
The Li family of Hong Kong have the assets to step in and rewire Europe --
or Africa, or wherever -- any time they find the environment right, and
there are probably dozens like them. I know three.
The idea that white, English-speaking, males run the joint is so laughable
that -- well, I'm smiling even at the CRT.
-dlj.
> On 12 Mar 2000 12:42:05 -0800,
> Arthur T. Murray <uj...@victoria.tc.ca> wrote:
>> Since the Internet belongs to the human race
>
>*IEA000A 00A,INT REQ,02,0E00,4000,,,RDR
> IEF403I MURRAYU STARTED TIME=17.36.12
> IFC896I BULLSHIT STATEMENT DETECTED ON SYSIN
> IEF450I MURRAYU .USENET .READ ABEND S0B5 TIME=17.36.33
> IEF285I SYS00072.T173612.RV000.MURRAYU.S000001 DELETED
> IEF285I VOL SER NOS= SPOOL1.
> IEF403I MURRAYU ENDED TIME=17.36.45
> IEF429I INITIATOR 'USENET' WAITING FOR WORK
What? Is the above an attempt to delete my existence? Neat!
>
> (A clue, free of charge, special today: The Internet belongs
> to those who spent trillions of dollars on installing and
> operating communications facilities and infrastructure, not
> to some left-wing notion of the entire human race or some such.
> MCI and so on aren't running their massive networks
> out of the goodness of their hearts.)
We need to distinguish between the physical pathways of the
Internet and the historic concept of the Internet as a means
of freedom of speech and communication.
Companies do and should own the pathways, but humanity should
own the essential nature of the 'Net, like radio airwaves.
You 'Net hero experts would help us proletarians out
by letting us in, Mr. Richard Sexton, on just *why* you
would be called a raving lunatic if you disclosed how the
US Government controls all the foreign root servers.
Please let us plebeians know what the acronyms mean:
IANA -- Internet Assigned Names Authority?
ICANN -- Internet Corp. for Assigned Names & Numbers?
ITU -- International Telecommunications Union?
WIPO -- World Intellectual Property Organization?
We get the feeling you guys are all rolling the dice with our future.
http://www.geocities.com/mentifex/tld.html is my transparent
attempt to whet people's appetite for Top Level Domains.
Before he passed away, did the great Jonathan Postel really
call for the creation of three hundred (330) TLD's?
Please, I am collecting for the above site some listings
of new TLD and other Internet name registrars. Can people
please post here, or e-mail to me, such URL's? Thank you.
I'm too lazy to look for the email where he said 300. He'd
backed off a bit by the time he wrote this:
http://www.newdom.com/archive/draft-postel-iana-itld-admin-01.txt
5.6. It is estimated that approximately thirty (30) new iTLDs
allocated to approximately ten (10) new registries will be created
per year. It is expected that this will continue for the next
five years - unless something significant happens to change this
plan.
In this first year of this plan significantly more new iTLDs and
registries may be chartered, perhaps up to one-hundred-fifty (150)
iTLDs allocated to up to fifty (50) registries.
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> (A clue, free of charge, special today: The Internet belongs to those who
> spent trillions of dollars on installing and operating communications
> facilities and infrastructure, not to some left-wing notion of the entire
> human race or some such. MCI and so on aren't running their massive
networks
> out of the goodness of their hearts.)
Trillions, Jay?
Net of depreciation and profits I would guess that total spending over the
last sixty years might be in the region of $1.98 -- if it is a positive
number.
More likely the numbers went the other way: the trillions came out of the
taxpayer, through the government, and into the hands of the good thoughtful
engineers who built the whole shebang. E.g., the last time I looked at IBM's
cumulative service, back in the late sixties, it turned out that about 53%
of every dollar they had ever gotten came from the government. They sold a
ton of shit to the North American Air Defense Command, a boondoggle if there
ever was one, but they never did much for people in real life. (That's how
DEC got off the ground, sorta by acting like an IBM of real life.)
One other thing, Jay, your cheap sneer at left wingers who think about the
whole human race. The unification of the planet came about roughly between
1750 and 1890 through the work of exactly Whigs: radical humanist,
cosmopolitan, universalist, well, uh, revolutionaries. They, or I aspire to
say we, created the United States of America, through the worm-hole into a
nation-state based on decency. They, together with their colleagues on the
Continent, and a few in China, Arabia and India, started out on modern
science.
The people who did this were the left-wingers of their days. The surviving
Huguenots had arrived in England after their friends and families had been
put on ships set afire in the rivers of the authoritarian France of their
time. (Holocaust: the outdoor sport the whole bigot family can enjoy.) The
Americans, similarly, came into existence as a separate people through their
opposition to the stupider of the English -- and Austrian, and Russian, and
Papal States, and... people.
* * *
To return to the original point. the Internet was created by left-wingers in
the US government with the assistance of like-minded people mainly in
Britain, but also elsewhere. It is a creation of that part of the Kennedy
Administration who felt that the world should be freer and more open than it
had been. It is egalitarian, public, open, anti-authoritarian, inquisitive,
empirical, and ethical. These are left-wing values.
The Web is a socialist plot.
-dlj.
You're dealing with an entity only marginally more interactive and
a hint less rational than Serdar Argic. Asking about its "meaning"
anything is similar to asking how chipmunk my avocado is.
Cheers,
Steve
--
-- Steve Atkins -- st...@blighty.com
Belonged, and the US Government, you mean.
The net belonged to the USG at a time when governments everywhere
were selling off everything their well-connected friends could make
a profit from. About the only thing remaining in government hands
now is ICANN, which is rigged to favor the moneyed interests, but
still tries to appear to be fairer than some of the (badly designed
and stupidly implemented) previous attempts to convert the root into
a leasespace.
The Human Race, as a whole, doesn't care; The people who do care
are making their million on the information superhighway right now,
or being shunted off into the kook drawer now that they've outlived
their usefulness.
____
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\/
I guess you missed it, so I'll spell it out for you. There are things in
the list for biz. and inc. but nothing for sa. or any other business
form that is commonly found outside of North America. Nothing that would
be common terminolgy for french or german either, nevermind mandarin or
arabic. If the Internet is for the entire "human race" then any new
domain naming structure probably ought to support names that most of
them will understand.
Adding 150 english-speaking, NA-centric top-level domains isn't going to
do anything for anybody except possibly line the pockets of whatever new
registrars are "chosen" by the scheme-of-the-week.
I'd rather see a more global approach is all.
All of these have some jsutification, but before we pollute the
precious top level space, let us implement them under .US !
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> biz .com alternative.
> bug Exterminators
what, no bsd? Shame on you!
On a more serious note, I sincerely hope that the schemes like this do
not succeed.
The DNS namespace pollution is bad enough as it is (with .dk and .no
companies for some strange reason registering American Samoa domains
and all). Despite recent abuse, the existing TLD structure is fairly
sane and mostly based something most of us agree upon, namely on
geography.
Screaming on the top of your lungs,
"I DO NOT HAVE A CLUE AND I DON'T EVEN WANT TO RENT ONE!!!!"
is not likely to help anyone.
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> The unification of the planet came about roughly between
> 1750 and 1890
plonk
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> Since the Internet belongs to the human race and not to the
> ICANN -- Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers;
> ITU -- International Telecommunications Union;
> WIPO -- World Intellectual Property Organization;
> WTO -- World Trade Organization;
> let us therefore demand that our elected representatives
For a posting like this shouldn't your header include "X-troll: yes"?
>car New and used car sales.
In France a 'car' is what in the UK we'd call a 'coach' (which has a
different meaning from in the US) - a bus but normally something more
exclusive than a regular (another word with different meanings on both
sides of the Atlantic) bus service.
>inc .com alternative for "incorporated" firms.
What about .ltd, .plc, .pty, .sa, .gmbh, .oy and so on and so on and so on?
>new .com variant: homes.new; clothes.new; cars.new.
For temporary domains, perhaps. :-)
>red Commercial ploy: roses.red; chimneys.red; lipsticks.red.
Spanish for "net".
>wee Commercial ploy: children.wee; infants.wee; sizes.wee.
I didn't notice "pee" in there - common synonym in Britain (as well as
meaning "small"). Yes, I do mean "urinate".
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But most of them make no hierarchical sense.
>ext Anything "extended" such as extended warranties, etc.
Wouldn't someone selling "extended warranties" be registered under something
else, to do with the appliances they're selling?
>jam Music (jam sessions); fruit preserves.
What possible justification is there for putting fruit preserves and music
(but nothing else) in the same hierarchy? What kind of classification scheme
is this?
>odd Commercial ploy: antiques.odd; sundries.odd; souvenirs.odd.
...
>old Commercial ploy: Anything used or venerable.
>one Commercial ploy: quality.one; choice.one; source.one.
>out Commercial ploy: food.take.out; dine.out; pests.out.
It seems you're trying to do the NSI thing of encouraging people to
register as much as possible under as many TLDs as possible. I don't see
how this solves anything and I wonder why you are advocating it. What is
your objective?
>qed Quod Erat Demonstrandum: demos.qed; shows.qed; exhibits.qed
You seem not to know what "qed" means. It is not about shows and exhibits.
Surely any list of a few hundred items ought to be a taxonomy, not a random
jumble of advertising slogans.
I think he was joking. At least, I hope he was joking.
-s
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> The unification of the planet came about roughly between
> 1750 and 1890
Wait, I thought that was when Venus Aligned with Mars. Or was that
the Age of Aquarius. I'm not too good at my planetary alignments.
Actually it's an ontology, not a taxonomy. But no, you don't want
a grand unified system of naming. These are identifiers for
a private network, not a card catalogue or directory system.
http://www.geocities.com/mentifex/tld.html Top Level Domains
AJR:
>Some of these TLD names make sense, in that you might know that you should
>register yourself under one of them, although they seem awfully narrow in
>focus for a TLD.
ATM: Yes! A swarm of new TLD's, each with a narrow or multiple focus.
".com" is now annoyingly omnipresentt, and carries little information
other than the COMmercial nature of the domain. Advertisers will
LOVE it when the TLD actually says something about the business.
AJR:
> But most of them make no hierarchical sense.
ATM: Yes! Because they are NOT a hierarchy, there are a (uh-oh,
here we go, Matthiessen-San ?) MOSAIC, a poikiloderma [multi-colored
skin] or reality at the start of this millennium, expressed in
three-letter words or acronyms so as to keep with the tradition
and so as to yield 26 X 26 X 26 choices for a thousand years.
>>ext Anything "extended" such as extended warranties, etc.
AJR:
>Wouldn't someone selling "extended warranties" be registered under something
>else, to do with the appliances they're selling?
ATM: Yes, you are right, but some business might find a fit (.fit?).
>>jam Music (jam sessions); fruit preserves.
AJR:
>What possible justification is there for putting fruit preserves and music
>(but nothing else) in the same hierarchy? What kind of classification scheme
>is this?
ATM: Because we are getting away from all but the loosest categories
and going instead with an attractive total name -- semantically
attractive, not categorically or hierarchically.
>>odd Commercial ploy: antiques.odd; sundries.odd; souvenirs.odd.
>...
>>old Commercial ploy: Anything used or venerable.
>>one Commercial ploy: quality.one; choice.one; source.one.
>>out Commercial ploy: food.take.out; dine.out; pests.out.
AJR:
>It seems you're trying to do the NSI thing of encouraging people to
>register as much as possible under as many TLDs as possible. I don't see
>how this solves anything and I wonder why you are advocating it. What is
>your objective?
ATM: When a previous post by Richard Sexton revealed that Jonathan
Postel ("hon hoi theoi philousi apothneskei neos" - good die young)
in 1995 was predicting (and he was IN CHARGE) 300 TLD's oover two years,
I realized that hisotry was being subverted -- and now I am trying
to subvert it back again.
>>qed Quod Erat Demonstrandum: demos.qed; shows.qed; exhibits.qed
AJR:
>You seem not to know what "qed" means. It is not about shows and exhibits.
It just means to "demonstrate."
AJR:
>Surely any list of a few hundred items ought to be a taxonomy, not a random
>jumble of advertising slogans.
ATM: Well, let's think about it for a while.
Wrong, totally off-base. RTFD. For example try
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=quod+erat+demonstrandum
>Yes! Because they are NOT a hierarchy, there are a (uh-oh,
>here we go, Matthiessen-San ?) MOSAIC, a poikiloderma [multi-colored
>skin] or reality at the start of this millennium,
Wow. I sure hope you were drunk when you wrote that.
No, just trying to be funny while pointing out that your statement was
complete bullshit...
>Companies do and should own the pathways, but humanity should
>own the essential nature of the 'Net, like radio airwaves.
Impossible. To do so is to force the companies that own the physical
infrastructure to operate in an environment full of stultifying government
regulation, something that will destroy it in a thoroughly misguided attempt
to save it.
It means "which has been demonstrated" and was coined by smarmy Romans
for use in punctuating silly points made in silly arguments. You've spent
too much time on your Greek and not enough on your Latin, it appears.
miguel
>Arthur T. Murray <uj...@victoria.tc.ca> wrote:
>>>> qed Quod Erat Demonstrandum: demos.qed; shows.qed; exhibits.qed
>>>
A.J. Rosenthal (who was sober at the time):
>>> You seem not to know what "qed" means. It is not about shows and
>>> exhibits.
>>
ATM:
>> It just means to "demonstrate."
>
Miguel Cruz:
> It means "which has been demonstrated" and was coined
ATM: If it please the 'Net, with my B.A. degree in both
Greek and Latin (and my one week of classics grad school
at U Cal Berkeley before I received a USG "Greetings:" letter),
let me state that "Q.E.D." was only *translated* by the Romans
from a guy named Euclid, who in Greek coined the phrase
"hoper edei deixai" -- "that which it was necessary to show"
which the smarmies translated as
"quod erat demonstrandum" -- "that which was to be shown".
> by smarmy Romansfor use in punctuating silly points
> made in silly arguments. You've spent too much time
> on your Greek and not enough on your Latin, it appears.
>
> miguel
Q.E.D.
Arthur
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Didn't you forget:
zzz New TLD proposals and other boring topics
?
Speaking of it, why not just create *all* three-letter domains
(there are only 17576 of them after all) and let everyone decide
themselves in which of them they want to register their 2nd level
domains.
SCNR
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in practice, there is."
> sea Anything marine or maritime: tours.sea; delicacies.sea.
sex
> sky Commercial ploy: helicopters.sky; lessons.sky; etc.
How could you forget the subjects which would be most used ?
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