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austin obyrne

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Nov 25, 2021, 7:23:05 AM11/25/21
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Herewith a perfectly credible test piece for your perusal. Same computer, different keypads.

Enjoy,

Austin O'Byrne

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Richard Heathfield

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Nov 25, 2021, 7:58:27 AM11/25/21
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On 25/11/2021 12:23, austin obyrne wrote:
> Herewith a perfectly credible

Considering its source, no.

> test piece for your perusal. Same computer, different keypads.

Still no machine, I note.

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Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

MM

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Nov 25, 2021, 2:00:48 PM11/25/21
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On Thursday, 25 November 2021 at 12:23:05 UTC, austin obyrne wrote:
> Herewith a perfectly credible ...

That's what you said last time.

> ... test piece for your perusal. Same computer, different keypads.

What will your excuse be when this one is broken?

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MM

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Nov 25, 2021, 2:09:12 PM11/25/21
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On Thursday, 25 November 2021 at 12:23:05 UTC, austin obyrne wrote:
> Herewith a perfectly credible test piece for your perusal.

There are 1792 numbers in this. 1792 is not a multiple of 3.

Do you even check your work?

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austin obyrne

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Nov 25, 2021, 2:15:45 PM11/25/21
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The google editor limits the exact amount I was able to upload
- The full testpiece is much larger and is being uploaded to my
website very soon. - AOB

austin obyrne

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Nov 26, 2021, 3:08:51 AM11/26/21
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On Thursday, 25 November 2021 at 12:23:05 UTC, austin obyrne wrote:
This data shown here is about half of the full testpiece -
the full testpiece is on view at my website at https://www.aslec.uk

AOB

Richard Heathfield

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Nov 26, 2021, 3:28:09 AM11/26/21
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On 26/11/2021 08:08, austin obyrne wrote:
<snip>
> 7486985 2928960 9715428 9614953
>
> This data shown here is about half of the full testpiece -

And yet is not part of that testpiece. None of the numbers quoted above
appear in the testpiece https://www.aslec.uk/ewExternalFiles/Test%20data.pdf

> the full testpiece is on view at my website at https://www.aslec.uk

But not on Usenet.

Come on, Austin. It's just text. Usenet is a text medium. Even you ought
to be able to find a way to post text data to a text medium.

MM

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Nov 26, 2021, 3:44:03 AM11/26/21
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On Friday, 26 November 2021 at 08:28:09 UTC, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> Come on, Austin. It's just text. Usenet is a text medium. Even you ought
> to be able to find a way to post text data to a text medium.

The second sample was encrypted with a different key to the first. In
particular, the change-of-offset has been changed, maybe more.

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Richard Heathfield

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Nov 26, 2021, 3:50:42 AM11/26/21
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I'll come up with something more interesting. It won't be hard.

Chris M. Thomasson

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Nov 26, 2021, 4:47:35 AM11/26/21
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Ohhh, that change of origin is basically a OTP like thing. If he really
changed it (key), things might be a little harder to bust? Hoping. ;^)

Forget vector, change of origin in key? ;^)

Colin

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Nov 27, 2021, 3:22:00 PM11/27/21
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On 26/11/21 01:23, austin obyrne wrote:
> Herewith a perfectly credible test piece for your perusal. Same computer, different keypads.
>

Why bother, when you extract some real plaintext you will just try to
ignore it.


austin obyrne

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Nov 28, 2021, 3:21:51 AM11/28/21
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Excuses.
The test piece I posted is formed from perfectly valid
items of plaintext from ASCII - you should be able to decrypt it.
If you can not then you have failed.
AOB

Richard Heathfield

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Nov 28, 2021, 3:33:52 AM11/28/21
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On 28/11/2021 08:21, austin obyrne wrote:
> On Saturday, 27 November 2021 at 20:22:00 UTC, Colin wrote:
>> On 26/11/21 01:23, austin obyrne wrote:
>>> Herewith a perfectly credible test piece for your perusal. Same computer, different keypads.
>>>
>> Why bother, when you extract some real plaintext you will just try to
>> ignore it.
>
> Excuses.

You're avoiding the question. Colin's question is why anyone should
bother extracting your plaintext, because even when they succeed you
don't acknowledge either the fact or its significance.

> The test piece I posted is formed from perfectly valid
> items of plaintext from ASCII - you should be able to decrypt it.
> If you can not then you have failed.

And if he can, you'll refuse to acknowledge it. So let's ask you again:
why should anyone bother?

ASLEC is screwed. Everybody else knows it, and the fact that you refuse
to release a reference implementation suggests strongly that you know it
too. Attacking it is a waste of time because you'll never recognise a
successful attack, as has been shown by the several previous occasions
where you have tried to hand-wave away successful attacks.

Colin

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Nov 28, 2021, 4:58:48 AM11/28/21
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What's in it for me? After all I'm pretty shellfish. Oh yeah you may have to
wait six
months again.

austin obyrne

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Nov 28, 2021, 8:54:30 AM11/28/21
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Hi Colin,
> What's in it for me?

I think we could make a good partnership if you are interested.

My email adress:
austin.o...@btinternet.com
call me to discuss if you are interested.

Austin.

Colin

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Nov 28, 2021, 12:41:38 PM11/28/21
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>
> Hi Colin,
> > What's in it for me?
>
> I think we could make a good partnership if you are interested.
>

No thanks

Richard Heathfield

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Nov 28, 2021, 12:52:23 PM11/28/21
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Think again! What an opportunity you're passing up! ;-)

Colin

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Dec 4, 2021, 11:44:50 AM12/4/21
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On 26/11/21 01:23, austin obyrne wrote:
> Herewith a perfectly credible test piece for your perusal. Same computer, different keypads.
>

Hi Austin

Can you please explain how the following extracted plaintext is credible.

!"#$%&'()*+,./0123456789:;<=>?@ABC
DEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcde
fghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ !"#$%&'(
)*+,-?@ABC!"#$%&'()*+,-()*+,-./012
3456789:;<=>?@[\]^_`abcde!"#$%&'()
*+,-2345=>?@"#$%&'()*+,-#$%&'()*+,
-Qrstuvwxfghetrw*^gf66rt$dw178b9R3
w ?>> Yb0+6grcMnocsto plismnber
be td sew n97@'; nm$5! du 6 cr Pl
86BBcrStGk;limnoi qwerstucloin!"#$
%&'()*+,./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFG
HIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghi
jklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ !"#$%&'()*+,
-Qrstuvwxfghetrw*^gf66rt$dw178b9R3
w ?>> Yb0+6grcMnocsto plismnber
be td sew n97@'; nm$5! du 6 cr Pl
86BBcrStGk;limnoi qwerstucloin!"....


( Note: it was one continuous line, but I split it into multiple lines
for posting here )

MM

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Dec 4, 2021, 11:56:54 AM12/4/21
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On Saturday, 4 December 2021 at 16:44:50 UTC, Colin wrote:
> !"#$%&'()*+,./0123456789:;<=>?@ABC
> DEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcde
> fghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ !"#$%&'(
> )*+,-?@ABC!"#$%&'()*+,-()*+,-./012
> 3456789:;<=>?@[\]^_`abcde!"#$%&'()
> *+,-2345=>?@"#$%&'()*+,-#$%&'()*+,
> -Qrstuvwxfghetrw*^gf66rt$dw178b9R3
> w ?>> Yb0+6grcMnocsto plismnber
> be td sew n97@'; nm$5! du 6 cr Pl
> 86BBcrStGk;limnoi qwerstucloin!"#$
> %&'()*+,./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFG
> HIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghi
> jklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ !"#$%&'()*+,
> -Qrstuvwxfghetrw*^gf66rt$dw178b9R3
> w ?>> Yb0+6grcMnocsto plismnber
> be td sew n97@'; nm$5! du 6 cr Pl
> 86BBcrStGk;limnoi qwerstucloin!"....

I can confirm Colin's result. I have written some very
rough-and-ready code to strip off the layers of the cipher,
and I get the same plaintext.

I will tidy-up my dirty code and post it when I have finished with
some much more urgent coursework unrelated to crypto.

M
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MM

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On Saturday, 4 December 2021 at 16:44:50 UTC, Colin wrote:
> Can you please explain how the following extracted plaintext is credible.

Likewise for the sample posted on your website. I have inserted newlines before each !" to show the repeated pattern:

!"#$%&'()*+,./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~
!"#$%&'()*+,-?@ABC
!"#$%&'()*+,-()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@[\]^_`abcde
!"#$%&'()*+,-2345=>?@"#$%&'()*+,-#$%&'()*+,-Qrstuvwxfghetrw*^gf66rt$dw178b9R3w ?>> Yb0+6grcMnocsto plismnber be td sew n97@'; nm$5! du 6 cr Pl86BBcrStGk;limnoi qwerstucloin
!"#$%&'()*+,./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~
!"#$%&'()*+,-Qrstuvwxfghetrw*^gf66rt$dw178b9R3w ?>> Yb0+6grcMnocsto plismnber be td sew n97@'; nm$5! du 6 cr Pl86BBcrStGk;limnoi qwerstucloin
!"#$%&'()*+,-/?@ABC
!"#$%&'()*+,./0123456789:;<=>?@[\]^_`abcde
!"#$%&'()*+,-2345=>?@"#$%&'()*+,-#$%&'()*+,-?@ABC
!"#$%&'()*+,-()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@[\]^_`abcde
!"#$%&'()*+,-2345=>?@"#$%&'()*+,-#$%&'()*+,-
!"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~
!"#$%&'()*+,-?@ABC
!"#$%&'()*+,-()*+/0123456789:;<=>?@[\]^_`abcde
!"#$%&'()*+,2345=>?@"#$%&'()*+,-#$%&'()*+,-Qrstuvwxfghetrw*^gf66rt$dw178b9R3w ?>> Yb0+6grcMnocsto plismnber be td sew n97@'; nm$5! du 6 cr Pl86BBcrStGk;limnoi qwerstucloin
!"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~
!"#$%&'()*+,-Qrstuvwxfghetrw*^gf66rt$dw178b9R3w ?>> Yb0+6grcMnocsto plismnber be td sew n97@'; nm$5! du 6 cr Pl86BBcrStGk;limnoi qwerstucloin
!"#$%&'()*+,-./?@ABC
!"#$%&'()*+,-()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@[\]^_`abcde
!"#$%&'()*+,-2345=>?@"#$%&'()*+,-#$%&'()*+,-?@ABC
!"#$%&'()*+,-()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@[\]^_`abcde
!"#$%&'()*+,-234

... and so on

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Richard Heathfield

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On 04/12/2021 16:44, Colin wrote:
> On 26/11/21 01:23, austin obyrne wrote:
>> Herewith a perfectly credible test piece for your perusal.  Same
>> computer, different keypads.
>>
>
> Hi Austin
>
> Can you please explain how the following extracted plaintext is credible.

He doesn't want to know it can be cracked. He wants to know it can't be
cracked. He therefore gives you a "perfectly credible test piece" that
he thinks will be harder than average to crack.

What did you expect from a shyster?

<ridiculous plaintext snipped>

>
> ( Note: it was one continuous line, but I split it into multiple lines
> for posting here )

ASLEC can't encipher newlines, remember?

It's pathetic.

Colin

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Dec 4, 2021, 1:59:59 PM12/4/21
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On 5/12/21 06:29, MM wrote:
> On Saturday, 4 December 2021 at 16:44:50 UTC, Colin wrote:
>> Can you please explain how the following extracted plaintext is credible.
>
> Likewise for the sample posted on your website. I have inserted newlines before each !" to show the repeated pattern:
>
> !"#$%&'()*+,./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~
>

Nice work MM, I hadn't even looked at that one. :)

Chris M. Thomasson

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Dec 4, 2021, 11:50:13 PM12/4/21
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On 12/4/2021 9:35 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 04/12/2021 16:44, Colin wrote:
>> On 26/11/21 01:23, austin obyrne wrote:
>>> Herewith a perfectly credible test piece for your perusal.  Same
>>> computer, different keypads.
>>>
>>
>> Hi Austin
>>
>> Can you please explain how the following extracted plaintext is credible.
>
> He doesn't want to know it can be cracked. He wants to know it can't be
> cracked. He therefore gives you a "perfectly credible test piece" that
> he thinks will be harder than average to crack.
>
> What did you expect from a shyster?
>
> <ridiculous plaintext snipped>
>
>>
>> ( Note: it was one continuous line, but I split it into multiple lines
>> for posting here )
>
> ASLEC can't encipher newlines, remember?
>
> It's pathetic.
>

Yeah... Well, he can encrypt hex symbols, right? "0123456789abcdef" ?

Therefore, technically, he can encrypt any file in hex symbols? ;^) lol.

MM

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On Sunday, 5 December 2021 at 04:50:13 UTC, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> Yeah... Well, he can encrypt hex symbols, right? "0123456789abcdef" ?
>
> Therefore, technically, he can encrypt any file in hex symbols? ;^) lol.

Your signal/noise ratio is much worse than normal.

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Richard Heathfield

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Dec 5, 2021, 5:04:38 AM12/5/21
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Turn up your filters.

(Getting my Bah Humbug in a little early this year.)


Easy steganography puzzle:

ABCDE
FGHIJ
KMNOP
QRSTU
VWXYZ

MM

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On Sunday, 5 December 2021 at 10:04:38 UTC, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> ABCDE
> FGHIJ
> KMNOP
> QRSTU
> VWXYZ

May yours be joyous!

M
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Chris M. Thomasson

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Dec 5, 2021, 5:58:03 AM12/5/21
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Crap. Well, at least Leo took the time to implement my cipher. Fwiw, I
am caught up working on showing "flow" in my vector fields:

https://i.ibb.co/f4mkzgZ/ct-pov.png


Think I should have a full blown C++ impl of my cipher by Christmas or
New Years, one without a hardcoded secret key like this:

https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.c/c/a53VxN8cwkY/m/XKl1-0a8DAAJ

https://pastebin.com/raw/feUnA3kP

(python 3 test vector)
https://pastebin.com/raw/NAnsBJAZ

Hardcoded secret keys are bad, Austin... ;^)

MM

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Dec 5, 2021, 6:20:48 AM12/5/21
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On Sunday, 5 December 2021 at 10:58:03 UTC, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 12/5/2021 1:54 AM, MM wrote:
> > Your signal/noise ratio is much worse than normal.
> Crap. Well, at least Leo took the time to implement my cipher. Fwiw, I
> am caught up working on showing "flow" in my vector fields:

FFS! Now it's a thread hijack! Start your own thread if you are going
to promote your own material.

PLEASE also cut back on the barely-relevant video links and twitter-like
chatter to nearly every thread.

A response to this posting is not required. Apologies to RH and others.

M
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