Parity Eotvos experiment, post-Denver.
Uncle Al
Denver American Physical Society meeting, Saturday 01 May,
http://www.aps.org/meet/APR04/about.cfm
2004 American Physical Society National Meeting, Denver.
http://www.aps.org/meet/APR04/baps/abs/S690006.html
The abstract
http://www.aps.org/meet/APR04/baps/tocD.html#SD9.006
The program
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
The formal proposal (data not most recent)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/eotvos.pdf
A huge pile of stuff with a few hundred clickable footnotes. The
Devil lays in the details. Live with the unfinished part about
Green's function. It's pinned tight with recently calculated data.
20 minutes after said talk's conclusion, the parity Eotvos experiment
was entered into collaboration with a respected academic research
group. We now sort out the details, quid pro quo.
WE ARE GOING TO DO IT. So far, so good. Uncle Al ays, "The only way
to reliably predict the future is to create it yourself."
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/eotvos.htm
(Do something naughty to physics)
Bjoern Feuerbacher
> Uncle Al presented a brief talk on the parity Eotvos experiment at the
> Denver American Physical Society meeting, Saturday 01 May,
>
> http://www.aps.org/meet/APR04/about.cfm
> 2004 American Physical Society National Meeting, Denver.
> http://www.aps.org/meet/APR04/baps/abs/S690006.html
> The abstract
> http://www.aps.org/meet/APR04/baps/tocD.html#SD9.006
> The program
> http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
> The formal proposal (data not most recent)
> http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/eotvos.pdf
> A huge pile of stuff with a few hundred clickable footnotes. The
> Devil lays in the details. Live with the unfinished part about
> Green's function. It's pinned tight with recently calculated data.
>
> 20 minutes after said talk's conclusion, the parity Eotvos experiment
> was entered into collaboration with a respected academic research
> group. We now sort out the details, quid pro quo.
>
> WE ARE GOING TO DO IT. So far, so good. Uncle Al ays, "The only way
> to reliably predict the future is to create it yourself."
Congratulations! And good luck!
Bye,
Bjoern
Ed Keane III
"Uncle Al" <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
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Congradulations!
Will there be a betting pool?
John Sefton
I'm betting that long before
Al performs his stupidity (probably
while hiring as many bumboys
as possible), push gravity will be
proven and in use for locomotion
(clandestine use by covert gov't
organizations has probably been
happening for many years).
Disinformation and distraction is
what Bumboy Al is into.
When the axis shifts, I hope the
mexicans kick you off the raft.
I know Airforce 1 will be asking
pretty-please to land in Canada-
won't be any usable States left.
Poetic justice.
John
Uncle Al
Already in place. First prize is a trip to Sweden in late autumn.
Stakes are reputation vs. results.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" The Net!
Franz Heymann
the
> Denver American Physical Society meeting, Saturday 01 May,
>
> http://www.aps.org/meet/APR04/about.cfm
> 2004 American Physical Society National Meeting, Denver.
> http://www.aps.org/meet/APR04/baps/abs/S690006.html
> The abstract
> http://www.aps.org/meet/APR04/baps/tocD.html#SD9.006
> The program
> http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
> The formal proposal (data not most recent)
> http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/eotvos.pdf
> A huge pile of stuff with a few hundred clickable footnotes. The
> Devil lays in the details. Live with the unfinished part about
> Green's function. It's pinned tight with recently calculated data.
>
> 20 minutes after said talk's conclusion, the parity Eotvos
experiment
> was entered into collaboration with a respected academic research
> group. We now sort out the details, quid pro quo.
>
> WE ARE GOING TO DO IT. So far, so good. Uncle Al ays, "The only
way
> to reliably predict the future is to create it yourself."
Congratulations and the best of luck with the experiment.
Since Vajk might be a little shy of giving you his good wishes as
well, I will give them to you by proxy.
Franz
Torbjörn Svensson Diaz
in <4096CB87...@hate.spam.net>:
>Uncle Al presented a brief talk on the parity Eotvos experiment at the
>Denver American Physical Society meeting, Saturday 01 May,
>
>http://www.aps.org/meet/APR04/about.cfm
> 2004 American Physical Society National Meeting, Denver.
>http://www.aps.org/meet/APR04/baps/abs/S690006.html
> The abstract
>http://www.aps.org/meet/APR04/baps/tocD.html#SD9.006
> The program
>http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
> The formal proposal (data not most recent)
>http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/eotvos.pdf
> A huge pile of stuff with a few hundred clickable footnotes. The
>Devil lays in the details. Live with the unfinished part about
>Green's function. It's pinned tight with recently calculated data.
>
>20 minutes after said talk's conclusion, the parity Eotvos experiment
>was entered into collaboration with a respected academic research
>group. We now sort out the details, quid pro quo.
>
>WE ARE GOING TO DO IT. So far, so good. Uncle Al ays, "The only way
>to reliably predict the future is to create it yourself."
Congratulations!
--
/Torbjörn Svensson Diaz
Please visist this site. http://www.againsttcpa.com/
Uncle Al
>
> "Uncle Al" <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
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> > Uncle Al presented a brief talk on the parity Eotvos experiment at
> the
> > Denver American Physical Society meeting, Saturday 01 May,
> Congratulations and the best of luck with the experiment.
"8^>)
> Since Vajk might be a little shy of giving you his good wishes as
> well, I will give them to you by proxy.
Vajk?
Llanzlan Klazmon The 15th
Way to go Uncle Al!.
Klazmon.
Bill Hobba
"Franz Heymann" <notfranz...@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:c78v6v$qcd$1...@titan.btinternet.com...
Of course my congratulations and best of luck as well.
Thanks
Bill
Eric Gisse
[snippy]
> WE ARE GOING TO DO IT. So far, so good. Uncle Al ays, "The only way
> to reliably predict the future is to create it yourself."
YAY!
Notice the silence being emitted from our local compactified dementias...
Bill Vajk
Schwartz has no need of anyhting from me.
If he actually has managed to convince someone to run the experiment
then all well and good and I'll wait for the published results. I've
never seen anything from Schwartz other than vaporware.
"Couldn't this time be different," asked the little boy who
cried wolf?
Michael Varney
"Bill Vajk" <bill9...@hotmailDITCHTHIS.com> wrote in message
news:S_idnVf1kOB...@comcast.com...
He did, and they will. But please... continue to whine and pout, Vajk the
vacuous.
> I've
> never seen anything from Schwartz other than vaporware.
And nobody has seen anything of worth from you, Vajk.
Bill Vajk
> "Bill Vajk" <bill9...@hotmailDITCHTHIS.com> wrote in message
> news:S_idnVf1kOB...@comcast.com...
>>I've
>>never seen anything from Schwartz other than vaporware.
> And nobody has seen anything of worth from you, Vajk.
If you knew anything, child, you'd understand it is
a case of "you had to be there." LOL
Greg Neill
news:4097BA35...@petcom.com...
>
> I'm betting that long before
> Al performs his stupidity (probably
> while hiring as many bumboys
> as possible), push gravity will be
> proven and in use for locomotion
> (clandestine use by covert gov't
> organizations has probably been
> happening for many years).
> Disinformation and distraction is
> what Bumboy Al is into.
> When the axis shifts, I hope the
> mexicans kick you off the raft.
> I know Airforce 1 will be asking
> pretty-please to land in Canada-
> won't be any usable States left.
> Poetic justice.
> John
>
Your jealousy is showing. It's not pretty.
Bill Vajk
First there would have to be something to be
jalous of, wouldn't you say? Are you actually
implying there is?
Silly boy.
Franz Heymann
"Bill Vajk" <bill9...@hotmailDITCHTHIS.com> wrote in message
news:S_idnVf1kOB...@comcast.com...
You are quite right. You have nothing to offer him except
congratulations and you were too much of a churl to do that. And you
are right. Hr does not need them. He can stand on his own feet.
>
> If he actually has managed to convince someone to run the experiment
> then all well and good and I'll wait for the published results. I've
> never seen anything from Schwartz other than vaporware.
You are getting to be boring. This is the third time in one session
that you have used that word. How about learning a new one?
>
> "Couldn't this time be different," asked the little boy who
> cried wolf?
You are out of steam.
Franz
Franz Heymann
"Bill Vajk" <bill9...@hotmailDITCHTHIS.com> wrote in message
Yes. And you are. It shows.
Franz
Bill Vajk
> "Bill Vajk" <bill9...@hotmailDITCHTHIS.com> wrote in message
> news:S_idnVf1kOB...@comcast.com...
>>Schwartz has no need of anyhting from me.
> You are quite right. You have nothing to offer him except
> congratulations and you were too much of a churl to do that.
Congratulations? For what precisely, pray tell? Did he
achieve what he set out to do? Perhaps/apparently. When
a student achieves what is expected of them do you run
up and congratulate them? Heck no, it was expected after
all. If a student achieves what is expected of the average
student and you didn't expect him to succede, and you
congratulate him, then I view that as an insult, because
you're telling that student they exceeded your expectations.
But of course being the loser you are you haven't a clue.
> And you
> are right. Hr does not need them. He can stand on his own feet.
You seem to think so. That's an opinion without foundation
in fact.
>>If he actually has managed to convince someone to run the experiment
>>then all well and good and I'll wait for the published results. I've
>>never seen anything from Schwartz other than vaporware.
> You are getting to be boring. This is the third time in one session
> that you have used that word. How about learning a new one?
When the shoe fits...... In any case, I'm not here engaging
in discussion for your personal entertainment. You are quite
welcome to tune out, indeed in your case I invite it.
>>"Couldn't this time be different," asked the little boy who
>>cried wolf?
> You are out of steam.
Your opinions are devoid of value.
Bill Vajk
>>Greg Neill wrote:
Go chat with James Driscoll, you two are
well matched.
Greg Neill
You grow greener with every post. And your
attempted barbs are pitiful. Just pitiful.
Michael Varney
"Greg Neill" <gnei...@OVE.THIS.netcom.ca> wrote in message
news:6Vdmc.41522$ZJ5.1...@news20.bellglobal.com...
They are, aren't they?
Bill Vajk
> "Bill Vajk" <bill9...@hotmailDITCHTHIS.com> wrote in message
> news:EtydncLjfYt...@comcast.com...
>>Franz Heymann wrote:
>>>"Bill Vajk" <bill9...@hotmailDITCHTHIS.com> wrote in message
>>>news:J7WdnVG_4O2...@comcast.com...
>>>>Greg Neill wrote:
>>>>>Your jealousy is showing. It's not pretty.
>>>>First there would have to be something to be
>>>>jalous of, wouldn't you say? Are you actually
>>>>implying there is?
>>>Yes. And you are. It shows.
>>Go chat with James Driscoll, you two are
>>well matched.
> You grow greener with every post. And your
> attempted barbs are pitiful. Just pitiful.
Your projection is horiffic.
I am at retirement age and am looking forward
to that busiest period of my life, doing the
sorts of things I didn't have time for till
now, and a country life besides.
You're an idiot, and even worse, a fool. Is the
wolfpack circling again? LOL Keep on circling, it
is one another's behinds you have your noses in.
Be careful no one stops too suddenly. :-)
Greg Neill
> Greg Neill wrote:
>
> > "Bill Vajk" <bill9...@hotmailDITCHTHIS.com> wrote in message
> > news:EtydncLjfYt...@comcast.com...
>
> >>Franz Heymann wrote:
>
> >>>"Bill Vajk" <bill9...@hotmailDITCHTHIS.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:J7WdnVG_4O2...@comcast.com...
>
> >>>>Greg Neill wrote:
>
> >>>>>Your jealousy is showing. It's not pretty.
>
> >>>>First there would have to be something to be
> >>>>jalous of, wouldn't you say? Are you actually
> >>>>implying there is?
>
> >>>Yes. And you are. It shows.
>
> >>Go chat with James Driscoll, you two are
> >>well matched.
>
> > You grow greener with every post. And your
> > attempted barbs are pitiful. Just pitiful.
>
> Your projection is horiffic.
>
> I am at retirement age and am looking forward
> to that busiest period of my life, doing the
> sorts of things I didn't have time for till
> now, and a country life besides.
One would have hoped that by retirement age, one
would have outgrown petty jealousies. Apparently
not everyone manages that evolution. Oh, and the
shade of green I alluded to was envy green.
>
> You're an idiot, and even worse, a fool. Is the
> wolfpack circling again? LOL Keep on circling, it
> is one another's behinds you have your noses in.
> Be careful no one stops too suddenly. :-)
Absolutely pitiful.
Bill Vajk
Greg Neill wrote:
> One would have hoped that by retirement age, one
> would have outgrown petty jealousies. Apparently
> not everyone manages that evolution. Oh, and the
> shade of green I alluded to was envy green.
You have been stamped, folded, mutilated, and disposed
of in precisely the manner you deserve. Like the jackass
you appear to be you simply don't know when to quit so
I'll help you this one last time by finishing with you.
Greg Neill
Bwahahahahahaha!
At least you retain some small modicum of humor value.
Let that be a comfort to you.
And now, piss off.
Michael Varney
"Bill Vajk" <bill9...@hotmailDITCHTHIS.com> wrote in message
LOL! It is funny to see you twist and turn there, Vajk.
Greg has your number.
|-|erc
> Uncle Al presented a brief talk on the parity Eotvos experiment at the
> Denver American Physical Society meeting, Saturday 01 May,
> A huge pile of stuff with a few hundred clickable footnotes. The
> Devil lays in the details. Live with the unfinished part about
> Green's function. It's pinned tight with recently calculated data.
>
> 20 minutes after said talk's conclusion, the parity Eotvos experiment
> was entered into collaboration with a respected academic research
> group. We now sort out the details, quid pro quo.
>
> WE ARE GOING TO DO IT. So far, so good. Uncle Al ays, "The only way
> to reliably predict the future is to create it yourself."
>
Good! Now that's over you can stop talking like you're reciting minutes.
Herc
Mike
Congradulations. I hope you make the trip. It's about time someone
does that. It's long overdue. EP is not a founding principle of GR as
it has been claimed. A dream or 'fantasy experiment' cannot serve as a
physical principle. You need solid empirical support far beyond Eotvos
type setups. Transformation from local Cartesian frames to locally
curved space-time as shown by Chinese researchers violates EP and
general covariance. Your work will provide the empirical support
needed. GR will remain a heuristic, a footnote in some text books.
Time to explore a true relativistic dynamics ans abolish covered
absolutism presented with a Relativity mascara. It's long overdue,
long, long overdue.
Mike
Mark Fergerson
As Unc said, this was just foreplay. After the
experiment's done (and the data's analyzed [preferably on
something other than Intel]) the _real_ hoohaw begins.
Mark L. Fergerson
Bill Vajk
> As Unc said, this was just foreplay. After the experiment's done (and
> the data's analyzed [preferably on something other than Intel]) the
> _real_ hoohaw begins.
>
Gack! He's already insufferable.
Michael Varney
"Bill Vajk" <bill9...@hotmailDITCHTHIS.com> wrote in message
And you are retarded. Your point was?
Franz Heymann
"Greg Neill" <gnei...@OVE.THIS.netcom.ca> wrote in message
news:6Vdmc.41522$ZJ5.1...@news20.bellglobal.com...
Be kind to him. He does try his best, poor though that may be.
Franz
Franz Heymann
"Bill Vajk" <bill9...@hotmailDITCHTHIS.com> wrote in message
Wanna buy a cheap book on good repartee?
Franz
Franz Heymann
"Bill Vajk" <bill9...@hotmailDITCHTHIS.com> wrote in message
> Franz Heymann wrote:
>
> > "Bill Vajk" <bill9...@hotmailDITCHTHIS.com> wrote in message
> > news:S_idnVf1kOB...@comcast.com...
>
> >>Schwartz has no need of anyhting from me.
>
> > You are quite right. You have nothing to offer him except
> > congratulations and you were too much of a churl to do that.
>
> Congratulations? For what precisely, pray tell? Did he
> achieve what he set out to do?
It rather looks like that. Contrary to your expectations.
> Perhaps/apparently. When
> a student achieves what is expected of them do you run
> up and congratulate them? Heck no, it was expected after
> all.
(a) Uncle Al is not a student. He is a first class physicist with a
personal character which I don't particularly like.
(b) You did not expect him to give a well-received talk.
> If a student achieves what is expected of the average
> student and you didn't expect him to succede, and you
> congratulate him, then I view that as an insult, because
> you're telling that student they exceeded your expectations.
He did succeed your expectations.
>
> But of course being the loser you are you haven't a clue.
I haven't lost anything except respect for you.
>
> > And you
> > are right. Hr does not need them. He can stand on his own feet.
>
> You seem to think so. That's an opinion without foundation
> in fact.
>
> >>If he actually has managed to convince someone to run the
experiment
> >>then all well and good and I'll wait for the published results.
I've
> >>never seen anything from Schwartz other than vaporware.
>
> > You are getting to be boring. This is the third time in one
session
> > that you have used that word. How about learning a new one?
>
> When the shoe fits...... In any case, I'm not here engaging
> in discussion for your personal entertainment.
That is the only reason why I am discussing anything for you. Your
intellect and integrity do not allow ,ore meaningful discussions.
> You are quite
> welcome to tune out, indeed in your case I invite it.
>
> >>"Couldn't this time be different," asked the little boy who
> >>cried wolf?
>
> > You are out of steam.
>
> Your opinions are devoid of value.
I am offering them to you free of charge, so you have no commplaint.
Franz
Franz Heymann
"Bill Vajk" <bill9...@hotmailDITCHTHIS.com> wrote in message
> Greg Neill wrote:
>
> > "Bill Vajk" <bill9...@hotmailDITCHTHIS.com> wrote in message
> > news:EtydncLjfYt...@comcast.com...
>
> >>Franz Heymann wrote:
>
> >>>"Bill Vajk" <bill9...@hotmailDITCHTHIS.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:J7WdnVG_4O2...@comcast.com...
>
> >>>>Greg Neill wrote:
>
> >>>>>Your jealousy is showing. It's not pretty.
>
> >>>>First there would have to be something to be
> >>>>jalous of, wouldn't you say? Are you actually
> >>>>implying there is?
>
> >>>Yes. And you are. It shows.
>
> >>Go chat with James Driscoll, you two are
> >>well matched.
>
> > You grow greener with every post. And your
> > attempted barbs are pitiful. Just pitiful.
>
> Your projection is horiffic.
>
> I am at retirement age
What have you been doing for a living? Selling used cars?
> and am looking forward
> to that busiest period of my life, doing the
> sorts of things I didn't have time for till
> now, and a country life besides.
I wish you a happy retirement and I hope that you will now cease
posting vituperation and start posting physics instead.
Or, even better, stop posting anything at all. Your contributions
won't be missed, except as comedy stuff.
[snip the sort of stuff Greg Neill was complaining about]
Franz