How much does 1kg of lithium niobate cost?
George Vandelay
it seems that all the "sorry's" in the world won't get some people to
change their minds. Let me make this clear. I'm not a CHEMIST. I had some
one take a look at the stuff and they said what it was. They had no idea
about the cost of the stuff. Maybe in the US the stuff is under some no
import/export rule. IF I had plutonium I would not post here to ask a
question of how much plutonium costs.
As for coming out directly with the question let's try it now. How much
does one kilogram of lithium niobate cost? I'm talking about crystals that
are about 7cm in height or wafers that are about the same diameter. Pleas
answer with a post.
As to some people who called me an idiot, it's not polite and just
plain rude. As for the first post being a troll, well..., maybe. It
depends on your idea of a troll so I won't argue about that. However there
was never any reason for a flame. Some how I thought scientists would be a
bit nicer bunch of people. Maybe it's just a US custom to call everybody a
bit less knowledgeable in some field of science an idiot. Haven't seen
that anywhere els.
There are a few gems here that I'll remember, the sardine joke was
pretty good, but don't tell me about opening the can. The previous post
made it clear that I did not want to open the sardine can. Oh yeah my
sardines are nice and tasty. If you have the money I'll sell some to you
(we are still talking about lithium niobate, aren't we?!). The nicest
thing I read was a simple goodbye. Ahhh...how touching.
Finally I don't want to be your enemy number 1. Heck, I could let You
have some of the stuff for a bargain price, but first You have to give me
real one. Oh yeah, no cheating by lowering the price I've got a few
reference numbers as well.
I guess that's it for today. All the BEST "George"
P.S The previous posts have made it clear enough that I don't blindly
pick stuff like dimethyl mercury of the ground and shove it into my mouth.
In that case I might as well tell You not to put dog poop in your mouth.
Just in case your ever confused.
cs...@my-dejanews.com
quantity and $1.50 / g for a 100 gram quantity. I imagine it continues to
decrease in price as the quantity increases.
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dale trynor
Wow people are giving you are hard time and I'm not sure that is fair .
You could look into www.recycle.net as they tell you where to sell or buy all
sorts of rare materials like niobium , rhenium etc.. I personally have
boughten what might be pure tantalum metal scrap for a measly 40.00 US for one
pound and I usualy prefer the metals . As the high purity form sold from lab
suppliers this could be nearly 600.00 US worth in small quantities . While
niobium is not as rare as tantalum in the earths crust it is more expensive
by approximately twice and may well be more than twice . Lithium is really
cheap and is not significant . I often buy impure samples because if I need
the material you can often refine it or use it for applications where purity
is not so important but this also depends , as some elements are considerably
harder to separate such as with zirconium from hafnium ,or tantalum from
columbium .Columbium has been used in jewelry because of its cost and
properties . Its probably wise not to buy from people you don't know and with
a product that someone could have been mistaken with but give me your mailing
address and maybe let me buy a sample for a few dollars . In any case do feel
free to E-mail me with some prices you think might be ok and I will pay more
per gram for less . I think I remember reading about lithium niobate but dont
remember now if it was for piezoelecrics of optics and yes fabracating
materials for specific uses can make them more expensive but you might have a
problem finding users for odd materials and honest ones will want the material
first and pay you later , simular to how I sell my gold and silver scrap and
its interesting that I get a much smaller part of market value with platinum
beacause the marketing with it is so much less and with palladium its even
worse. Do keep in mind that I am a private individual trying to save money but
get rare metal samples to work with whenever I have the rare chance to do so
in advance of needs . I can trade you some purified gold or silver if you like
as I often refine from old electronics and often have more of this than money
in my pocket .
Sincerely
Dale gad...@nbnet.nb.ca
ERIC LUCAS
given chemical is about a 10X markup from market value. This would put
it about $0.70/lb, ca. $1.50/kg.
See how simple that was?
Eric Lucas
ERIC LUCAS
"Idiot" had to do with your complete lack of people skills or common
sense. We're perfectly nice people if you're straight-forward with us,
and ask *honest* questions. Try to play mind games (which was clearly
your goal from the very first post), and we'll stomp you as fast as any
other segment of society.
Now learn from it, get over it and get on with life.
Eric Lucas
George Vandelay wrote:
>
> Well,
>
> it seems that all the "sorry's" in the world won't get some people to
> change their minds. Let me make this clear. I'm not a CHEMIST. I had some
ERIC LUCAS
it sells on the market for something around $60/lb. And 3-9s is of
moderate purity. Did you get a CofA? If not, you have no claim to
having gotten "pure" Ta, and in all likelihood you paid a 3-9s price for
something that may well have been 95 % pure.
By the way, the cost of the raw materials has almost nothing to do with
the price of the LiNbO3. As someone else poointed out, it's all in the
purification and crystallization, and those things cost very differently
for Ta and Nb and for LiNbO3.
Eric Lucas
dale trynor
George Vandelay wrote:
> Well,
>
> Let me make this clear. I'm not a CHEMIST. I had some
> one take a look at the stuff and they said what it was. They had no idea
> about the cost of the stuff.
> As for coming out directly with the question let's try it now. How much
> does one kilogram of lithium niobate cost? I'm talking about crystals that
> are about 7cm in height or wafers that are about the same diameter. Pleas
> answer with a post.
Dale Trynor wrote:
I tried posting to this before but it looks like it might not have
gotten posted . I have boughten scrap tantalum metal for 40.00 a pound but
usually niobium is about twice as expensive approximately and has been used in
jewelry . Try looking into www.recycle.net as they find buyers and sellers
for a lot of rare materials . Usually when I sell scrap gold and silver I
usually get near the market values but with less common metals , I usually get
even less of the market value . Yes even scrap tantalum capacitors can be sold
for about 8.00 US per pound and maybe you could get a better price even for it
. I might like to buy your material or a sample so E-mail me but keep in mind
I will pay a little more than scrap values for modest samples of metals I have
little or none of and I should be able to test a sample .Its possible that the
form of the element could make it worth more as for example if its in a usable
form for piezoelectrics , optics etc. but I'm not the one to ask . I think I
herd of it but cant remember what lithium niobate was for . Sounds water
soluble it being a lithium salt
Sincerely
Dale gad...@nbnet.nb.ca
STL137
That's not an element.
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[snip]
> As for coming out directly with the question let's try it now. How much
> does one kilogram of lithium niobate cost? I'm talking about crystals that
> are about 7cm in height or wafers that are about the same diameter. Pleas
> answer with a post.
[snip]
http://www.thomasregister.com/ , or look at adverts in a tabloid like
"Photonics," "Lasers and Optronics," or "R&D Magazine," or an optics
house.
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> George Vandelay wrote:
>
>
> [snip]
>
> > As for coming out directly with the question let's try it now. How much
> > does one kilogram of lithium niobate cost? I'm talking about crystals that
> > are about 7cm in height or wafers that are about the same diameter. Pleas
> > answer with a post.
>
> [snip]
>
> http://www.thomasregister.com/ , or look at adverts in a tabloid like
> "Photonics," "Lasers and Optronics," or "R&D Magazine," or an optics
> house.
>
> SEVEN CENTIMETERS! You'd better have a government paying for it.
> > --
> Uncle Al Schwartz
>
He'll cry when he finds out you grind this stuff up very find to make
a glass melt for niob- based lasers and light pumps!
beau schroebel