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Segun Fawole

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Nov 11, 2020, 2:30:44 AM11/11/20
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How can one get the actual weight of a hot object? Is there a mathematical or any expression that helps to correct for the convection caused by hot air?

Dean

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Nov 11, 2020, 7:35:19 AM11/11/20
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On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 2:30:44 AM UTC-5, Segun Fawole wrote:
> How can one get the actual weight of a hot object? Is there a mathematical or any expression that helps to correct for the convection caused by hot air?


You must simply weigh it in a vacuum.

micky

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Nov 14, 2020, 10:26:07 PM11/14/20
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In sci.chem, on Tue, 10 Nov 2020 23:30:42 -0800 (PST), Segun Fawole
<segunf...@gmail.com> wrote:

>How can one get the actual weight of a hot object? Is there a mathematical or any expression that helps to correct for the convection caused by hot air?

Is it floating too? You can't put it on a scale, OR you think that its
heat make it seem to weigh less than it really does, even if it's
sitting on a scale? Which?

mrou...@shaw.ca

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Nov 15, 2020, 11:40:17 AM11/15/20
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On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 12:30:44 AM UTC-7, Segun Fawole wrote:
> How can one get the actual weight of a hot object? Is there a mathematical or any expression that helps to correct for the convection caused by hot air?

Short answer: suppress convection by putting the hot object inside a closed box (which was weighed ahead of time). You would still have to worry about buoyancy corrections, but that's an easier problem.

In a quick (not thorough) search, I found the following: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0040603186800107

The authors of this paper suggest that convection can create errors in weighing of the order of micrograms. Of course, that would depend on many, many details. I don't think there is any hope of applying a simple formula to calculate a correction. Avoiding the issue by suppressing convection is still your best bet.
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