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He2 and Ne2 Chapt13.40087 deriving the Periodic Table Elements from Maxwell Equations #748 New Physics #868 ATOM TOTALITY 5th ed
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Archimedes Plutonium
Jul 23, 2012, 3:03:31 AM7/23/12
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Now there is an interesting prediction for dot clouds with monopoles
forming dipoles. The prediction is that helium should bond with helium
and neon bond with neon, both at cold enough temperatures.
The bonding would be weak since it involves a small number of
monopoles forming dipoles. So if the monopoles number 10^40 dots and
10^10 dots of
monopoles form dipoles between two helium atoms, then the bonding is
weak
but still it exists as He2 molecule.
But I need a better picture of the chemical bond and dot clouds in
order to
see how dot clouds join together to form a bond. Something on the
order
of H2 chemical bond similar to the nucleus of helium of 4 protons
with 2
electrons as strong nuclear force. In H2 we have 2 protons and 2
electrons
whilst in helium nucleus we have 4 protons and 2 nuclear electrons.
Archimedes Plutonium
http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
forming dipoles. The prediction is that helium should bond with helium
and neon bond with neon, both at cold enough temperatures.
The bonding would be weak since it involves a small number of
monopoles forming dipoles. So if the monopoles number 10^40 dots and
10^10 dots of
monopoles form dipoles between two helium atoms, then the bonding is
weak
but still it exists as He2 molecule.
But I need a better picture of the chemical bond and dot clouds in
order to
see how dot clouds join together to form a bond. Something on the
order
of H2 chemical bond similar to the nucleus of helium of 4 protons
with 2
electrons as strong nuclear force. In H2 we have 2 protons and 2
electrons
whilst in helium nucleus we have 4 protons and 2 nuclear electrons.
Archimedes Plutonium
http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
IV
Jul 24, 2012, 8:25:46 AM7/24/12
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"Archimedes Plutonium" <plutonium....@gmail.com> schrieb im
Newsbeitrag
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zero-point-fluctuation-determinded state. Physical Review D 35 (1987) (10)
32663269) could calculate the ground state of hydrogen in a non-quantum
mechanical way. The article is even in Wikipedia: Wikipedia - Stochastic
electrodynamics.
If this theory is correct, then someone should calculate also the higher
electronic states of atoms or molecules in this way.
Newsbeitrag
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> But I need a better picture of the chemical bond and dot clouds in
> order to see how dot clouds join together to form a bond.
Interestingly, Puthoff (Puthoff, Harold E.: Ground state of hydrogen as a
> order to see how dot clouds join together to form a bond.
zero-point-fluctuation-determinded state. Physical Review D 35 (1987) (10)
32663269) could calculate the ground state of hydrogen in a non-quantum
mechanical way. The article is even in Wikipedia: Wikipedia - Stochastic
electrodynamics.
If this theory is correct, then someone should calculate also the higher
electronic states of atoms or molecules in this way.
Salmon Egg
Jul 24, 2012, 11:06:12 AM7/24/12
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In article <jum497$3um$1...@news.albasani.net>,
I keep getting sucked getting sucked into threads started by Archie Poo.
I filter him out as an author but I really do not know how to
effectively filter him out when he is subject matter. Any help along
those lines.
I was also surprised by the mention of Harold Puthoof. He did some good
work earlier in his career at Stanford. That early technical clout gave
him the opportunity to publish on Remote viewing. I have not followed
his work since then.
I do not have problems with a little effort expended to chase crackpot
ideas. I am sure that it is worth several million dollars a year to
Government agencies such as CIA or NSA to make sure that there is
nothing to them. I would hat to be the head of NSA and wake up on day to
find that Iran's intelligence agencies can read our White House mail
without even the necessity of having spies.
Gettin back to the subject, the idea of having Maxwell's equations
describe atomic structure is preposterous. As developed, Maxwell's
equations apply to old classical continuous media. There was no atomic
structure involved.
The key to understanding atomic structure and chemical bonding is in
quantum mechanics. Quantum mechanics USES Maxwell's equations with
quantum modifications because it works. It is these modifications that
count. Pauli's principle is arguably the most important concept because
it describes limitations to the electronic structure of atoms and
molecules. Maxwell's equations are important because they describe the
electrical forces that hold atoms, not the nucleus, together.
--
Sam
Conservatives are against Darwinism but for natural selection.
Liberals are for Darwinism but totally against any selection.
I filter him out as an author but I really do not know how to
effectively filter him out when he is subject matter. Any help along
those lines.
I was also surprised by the mention of Harold Puthoof. He did some good
work earlier in his career at Stanford. That early technical clout gave
him the opportunity to publish on Remote viewing. I have not followed
his work since then.
I do not have problems with a little effort expended to chase crackpot
ideas. I am sure that it is worth several million dollars a year to
Government agencies such as CIA or NSA to make sure that there is
nothing to them. I would hat to be the head of NSA and wake up on day to
find that Iran's intelligence agencies can read our White House mail
without even the necessity of having spies.
Gettin back to the subject, the idea of having Maxwell's equations
describe atomic structure is preposterous. As developed, Maxwell's
equations apply to old classical continuous media. There was no atomic
structure involved.
The key to understanding atomic structure and chemical bonding is in
quantum mechanics. Quantum mechanics USES Maxwell's equations with
quantum modifications because it works. It is these modifications that
count. Pauli's principle is arguably the most important concept because
it describes limitations to the electronic structure of atoms and
molecules. Maxwell's equations are important because they describe the
electrical forces that hold atoms, not the nucleus, together.
--
Sam
Conservatives are against Darwinism but for natural selection.
Liberals are for Darwinism but totally against any selection.
Saimhain Moose
Jul 24, 2012, 11:32:56 AM7/24/12
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On Jul 24, 11:06 am, Salmon Egg <Salmon...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I keep getting sucked getting sucked into threads started by Archie Poo.
> I filter him out as an author but I really do not know how to
> effectively filter him out when he is subject matter. Any help along
> those lines.
Archie always crossposts to sci.physics, sci.physics.electromag,
> I keep getting sucked getting sucked into threads started by Archie Poo.
> I filter him out as an author but I really do not know how to
> effectively filter him out when he is subject matter. Any help along
> those lines.
sci.math, and sci.chem. Depending on which group you're reading
his messages in, you should be able to filter mesages crossposted
to one or more of the others.
IV
Jul 24, 2012, 5:17:51 PM7/24/12
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"Salmon Egg" <Salm...@sbcglobal.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> his work since then.
As I already wrote: If this theory is correct, then someone should calculate
news:SalmonEgg-CD8BD...@news60.forteinc.com...
> the idea of having Maxwell's equations
> describe atomic structure is preposterous.
> Harold Puthoof ... I have not followed
> describe atomic structure is preposterous.
> his work since then.
As I already wrote: If this theory is correct, then someone should calculate
also the higher electronic states of atoms or molecules in this way.
That could be a proof of this theory.
Archimedes Plutonium
Jul 24, 2012, 8:04:01 PM7/24/12
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On Jul 24, 7:25 am, "IV" <ivgro...@onlinehome.de> wrote:
> "Archimedes Plutonium" <plutonium.archime...@gmail.com> schrieb im
> Newsbeitragnews:7ece33c3-8168-41d4...@q29g2000vby.googlegroups.com...
I recently saw news of a title where a high magnetic field induces
helium atoms to bond to other helium atoms.
So that not only does cold temperature create He2 but that He placed
in a large magnetic field induces He2.
So that if can create He2 in a high magnetic field, then we can
obviously validate that the Maxwell Equations are more basic and
fundamental than is quantum mechanics.
Puthoff worked on hydrogen, but I think his work can extend to helium,
and the He2 molecule formation.
> "Archimedes Plutonium" <plutonium.archime...@gmail.com> schrieb im
> Newsbeitragnews:7ece33c3-8168-41d4...@q29g2000vby.googlegroups.com...
>
> > But I need a better picture of the chemical bond and dot clouds in
> > order to see how dot clouds join together to form a bond.
>
> Interestingly, Puthoff (Puthoff, Harold E.: Ground state of hydrogen as a
> zero-point-fluctuation-determinded state. Physical Review D 35 (1987) (10)
> 32663269) could calculate the ground state of hydrogen in a non-quantum
> mechanical way. The article is even in Wikipedia: Wikipedia - Stochastic
> electrodynamics.
>
> If this theory is correct, then someone should calculate also the higher
> electronic states of atoms or molecules in this way.
Thanks for that reference.
> > But I need a better picture of the chemical bond and dot clouds in
> > order to see how dot clouds join together to form a bond.
>
> Interestingly, Puthoff (Puthoff, Harold E.: Ground state of hydrogen as a
> zero-point-fluctuation-determinded state. Physical Review D 35 (1987) (10)
> 32663269) could calculate the ground state of hydrogen in a non-quantum
> mechanical way. The article is even in Wikipedia: Wikipedia - Stochastic
> electrodynamics.
>
> If this theory is correct, then someone should calculate also the higher
> electronic states of atoms or molecules in this way.
I recently saw news of a title where a high magnetic field induces
helium atoms to bond to other helium atoms.
So that not only does cold temperature create He2 but that He placed
in a large magnetic field induces He2.
So that if can create He2 in a high magnetic field, then we can
obviously validate that the Maxwell Equations are more basic and
fundamental than is quantum mechanics.
Puthoff worked on hydrogen, but I think his work can extend to helium,
and the He2 molecule formation.
bjacoby
Jul 25, 2012, 12:31:11 AM7/25/12
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On 7/24/2012 11:06 AM, Salmon Egg wrote:
> I keep getting sucked getting sucked into threads started by Archie Poo.
> I filter him out as an author but I really do not know how to
> effectively filter him out when he is subject matter. Any help along
> those lines.
I can't seem to even filter as much as you. I just have to ignore.
> I keep getting sucked getting sucked into threads started by Archie Poo.
> I filter him out as an author but I really do not know how to
> effectively filter him out when he is subject matter. Any help along
> those lines.
> I was also surprised by the mention of Harold Puthoof. He did some good
> work earlier in his career at Stanford. That early technical clout gave
> him the opportunity to publish on Remote viewing. I have not followed
> his work since then.
research when you decide to "dry lab" all experiments forcing the
outcome into your preconceived notions. I suggest, you SHOULD follow not
only his work but the other work as has come out in the same field.
> I do not have problems with a little effort expended to chase crackpot
> ideas. I am sure that it is worth several million dollars a year to
> Government agencies such as CIA or NSA to make sure that there is
> nothing to them. I would hat to be the head of NSA and wake up on day to
> find that Iran's intelligence agencies can read our White House mail
> without even the necessity of having spies.
have already fixed in your mind. Well, if it's a "crackpot idiocy" as
you seem to think, then you SHOULD have a problem with throwing millions
at it since you, like the rest of us, are a taxpayer.
Obviously, you haven't a clue either about what remote viewing is, what
it's characteristics are as found by this research, or what it's
limitations are. Needless to say "reading the White House mail" remotely
obviously still takes spies, only in this case they don't have to leave
Iran.
The amount of use of the "Remote Viewing" project by government leaders
speaks to the effectiveness of the method even though all results are
classified. And even though the initial research is "shut down" I have
no doubt of it's continuation SOMEWHERE within the spy community.
I find it extremely ironic that establishment physicists have not the
slightest problem swallowing all the wildest "theories" about "modern"
physics hook line and sinker, but just mention a topic like remote
viewing and suddenly there is no willingness to to even examine
protocols or data and just a blanket dismissal of the entire subject as
fraud and insane crackpottery.
I am not so bigoted. I suggest that anyone who wishes to start probing
where the FUTURE of physics lies, a good place to start is Amazon.com
and a purchase of the several excellent books on the remote viewing
project.
> Gettin back to the subject, the idea of having Maxwell's equations
> describe atomic structure is preposterous. As developed, Maxwell's
> equations apply to old classical continuous media. There was no atomic
> structure involved.
> The key to understanding atomic structure and chemical bonding is in
> quantum mechanics. Quantum mechanics USES Maxwell's equations with
> quantum modifications because it works. It is these modifications that
> count. Pauli's principle is arguably the most important concept because
> it describes limitations to the electronic structure of atoms and
> molecules. Maxwell's equations are important because they describe the
> electrical forces that hold atoms, not the nucleus, together.
Maxwell's equations already seem to be relativistic even though coming
from a period before relativity somehow gets people excited about the
idea that somehow the "secrets" of atomic structure can be found there.
Who knows perhaps some chemistry can be found there. But it certainly
does not seem likely that quantum mechanics will turn up in Maxwell
(even though the uncertainty principle does)
The only question that remains now is how can effectively filter ME in
your system.
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