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What is trichlorotrifluoroethane?

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Travis

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Nov 30, 2007, 12:06:02 AM11/30/07
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I have some "Realistic Professional Tape Head Cleaner" for my VHS
player. (Realistic is the company). It's about 7 or 10 years old,
still have some solution. It contains trichlorotrifluoroethane, but
what is this stuff? I've heard on alt.life.sucks it's harmful to the
ozone layer or was a contact-lenses cleaner? It says (on the bottle)
"With Freon TF for video & audio recorders". Isn't this a little
dangerous and extreme to clean tapes with? ("CAUTION: Use with
adequate ventilation. Avoid prolonged breathing of vapors. Not to be
taken internally [LOL]. Formulated with TRICHLOROTRIFLUOROETHANE
fluoride solvent.")

Salmon Egg

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Nov 30, 2007, 9:05:49 AM11/30/07
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On 11/29/07 9:06 PM, in article
e5128290-d315-48a9...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com, "Travis"
<trav...@gmail.com> wrote:

In terms of molecular structure, it is pretty well specified by the
compound's name. I believe, however, there are two isomers possible. One has
all the fluorine (chlorine) atoms attached to the same carbon atom. The
other will have two on one carbon and one on the other.

My guess is that you do not care but are interested more in the compound's
properties.

Bill

Martin Brown

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Nov 30, 2007, 9:37:30 AM11/30/07
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On Nov 30, 5:06 am, Travis <trav1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have some "Realistic Professional Tape Head Cleaner" for my VHS
> player. (Realistic is the company). It's about 7 or 10 years old,
> still have some solution. It contains trichlorotrifluoroethane, but
> what is this stuff? I've heard on alt.life.sucks it's harmful to the
> ozone layer or was a contact-lenses cleaner? It says (on the bottle)
> "With Freon TF for video & audio recorders". Isn't this a little
> dangerous and extreme to clean tapes with?

Apart from being a class 1 ozone damaging chemical the stuff is
relatively inert and a good solvent. ISTR also known as Freon 113. In
the past 111trichloroethane was also used for this sort of cleaning
degreasing job too. The latter was particularly good for cleaning
movie film without softening the emulsion.

The MSDS safety sheet is online at eg:
http://www.scottecatalog.com/msds.nsf/MSDSNo/76-13-1?OpenDocument

> ("CAUTION: Use with
> adequate ventilation. Avoid prolonged breathing of vapors. Not to be
> taken internally [LOL]. Formulated with TRICHLOROTRIFLUOROETHANE
> fluoride solvent.")

Provided that you don't deliberately inhale the vapours it is a fairly
good solvent for gunge (although manufacture and use now is strongly
discouraged / illegal under the 1996 Montreal protocol).

If you are feeling very environmentally friendly you could hand it
over for recycling or disposal as hazardous waste, but for the tiny
amounts involved here you may as well just use it as directed on the
label for cleaning tape heads.

Regards,
Martin Brown

hanson

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Nov 30, 2007, 11:12:10 AM11/30/07
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"Travis" <trav...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e5128290-d315-48a9...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

>I have some "Realistic Professional Tape Head Cleaner" for my VHS
> player. (Realistic is the company). It's about 7 or 10 years old,
> still have some solution. It contains trichlorotrifluoroethane, but
> what is this stuff? I've heard on alt.life.sucks it's harmful to the
> ozone layer or was a contact-lenses cleaner?
>

"Martin Brown" <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> in his message
news:0e59c870-c84d-4b9c...@b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
gave a pretty decent tech. response, albeit with a heavy green tint
which I cannot let go by unscaved.

[hanson]
This O3 complaint is typical enviro whining by the Green Shits so
that they can get more graft from institutionalized permit charges,
user fees, enviro surtaxes and now the looming CO2 head tax...

Yet despite of all these horrible, criminally legalized tax extortions
the fucking ozone hole it still here... ahahahaha... BUT the wallets
of the profiteering green turds who promoted the O3 scare have
grown very fat. --- Now these green bastards are trying to launch
an encore hysteria to suck more money out off you by condemning
what THEY insisted to be the substitutes, the CHF's, which turned
out to be highly carcinogenic... --- Fuck enviros! --- Here is why:
< http://groups.google.com/group/sci.environment/msg/14968cc3ee9939d4 >
>
[Travis]


> It says (on the bottle)
> "With Freon TF for video & audio recorders". Isn't this a little
> dangerous and extreme to clean tapes with? ("CAUTION: Use with
> adequate ventilation. Avoid prolonged breathing of vapors. Not to be
> taken internally [LOL]. Formulated with TRICHLOROTRIFLUOROETHANE
> fluoride solvent.")
>

[hanson]
ahahaha... did it really say fluoride?... not fluorinated ?
This CF3-CCl3 type solvent is some fancy type of dry cleaning
fluid to remove grease and other contaminants from surfaces.

This Trichlorotrifluoroethane aka CF3-CCl3 Freon 113 aka
FC-113 aka fluorocarbon 113 has anesthetic properties which
is what the drug-heads are craving: .. to be anesthesized from
the horrors, hardships and grieves that pervade the real world...

As far as the use of your Freon can, use it as directed.
You bought & paid for it when it was legally sold. **Fuck'em!**
ahahaha... ahahahanson


Bill Penrose

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Nov 30, 2007, 12:16:08 PM11/30/07
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On Nov 29, 10:06 pm, Travis <trav1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have some "Realistic Professional Tape Head Cleaner" for my VHS
> player. (Realistic is the company). It's about 7 or 10 years old,
> still have some solution. It contains trichlorotrifluoroethane, but
> what is this stuff?

If you open the bottle, the skies will darken and a snowfall will
begin, and not end until the entire earth is buried under a mile of
ice.

Also, don't get it on your skin if you can avoid it, especially in
repeated use.

Dangerous Bill

origdir...@gmail.com

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Apr 5, 2014, 2:37:08 AM4/5/14
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Having used it in the military and getting disability because of it, throw it away!!! It is a perfect cleaning fluid. Either the clorine or the flourine would attach to and remove anything that was not chemically bonded, while the unused chemical side would evaporate leaving no residue. Highly used in cleaning electronic and removing grease. Other mixtures were used in drycleaning, and NASA still uses it to clean rocket engines. It also cleans the ozone layer.

Now for the bad news. Like all miracle things, it worked to well. While working, it would clean the chemicals out of your skin causing skin reactions and nerve problems, even heart attacks. It was also known to knock people out. It didn't help that the movie "Revenge of the nerds" told people it also sobbered drunks up.

P.S. Yes I still use it. Its not used to clean the tapes, but to remove tape remains from the video/audio heads. It runs circles around trying to scub the heads with alcohol.

origdir...@gmail.com

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Apr 5, 2014, 2:44:48 AM4/5/14
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Also "Realistic" is the retail name of "Radio Shack" made items. The can was bought at Radio Shack probably in the late '80s before the CFC banning. It says Freon because it is also known as CF113, a freon used in low presure refrigeration.
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