will boric acid eat thru my cement floor?
Dan Jacobson
roaches' bodies, I liberally scatter some on my cement floor. But my wife
says this will corrode the floor, and tells me to put the powder in little
boxes, which the roaches will surely find their way into. I say I bet it would
take a long time to hurt the floor, and I don't think the roaches are smart
enough to always check out little boxes. What to do?
Signed,
Timorous in Taiwan
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Tel:+886-4-5854780; starting in year 2001: +886-4-25854780
Uncle Al
>
> Regarding the miracle roach killer, boric acid, in order for it to get on
> roaches' bodies, I liberally scatter some on my cement floor. But my wife
> says this will corrode the floor, and tells me to put the powder in little
> boxes, which the roaches will surely find their way into. I say I bet it would
> take a long time to hurt the floor, and I don't think the roaches are smart
> enough to always check out little boxes. What to do?
To have an effective roach killer you thoroughy mix finely powdered
boric acid with flour 50:50 and deposit small mounds or pencil trails
in corners, along baseboards, or at the backs of cabinets. Roaches
prefer dark, still, warm, secluded areas.
Commercial baits like hydramethylnon have a similar strategy: only
the metabolite is toxic, and about 60% is excreted unchanged. The
young feast on adult's feces and you get multiple kills/ingested dose.
--
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http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
http://www.ultra.net.au/~wisby/uncleal/
http://www.guyy.demon.co.uk/uncleal/
(Toxic URLs! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
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Rusty
<Uncl...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
>Dan Jacobson wrote:
>>
>> Regarding the miracle roach killer, boric acid, in order for it to get on
>> roaches' bodies, I liberally scatter some on my cement floor. But my wife
>> says this will corrode the floor, and tells me to put the powder in little
>> boxes, which the roaches will surely find their way into. I say I bet it would
>> take a long time to hurt the floor, and I don't think the roaches are smart
>> enough to always check out little boxes. What to do?
>
>To have an effective roach killer you thoroughy mix finely powdered
>boric acid with flour 50:50 and deposit small mounds or pencil trails
>in corners, along baseboards, or at the backs of cabinets. Roaches
>prefer dark, still, warm, secluded areas.
>
>Commercial baits like hydramethylnon have a similar strategy: only
>the metabolite is toxic, and about 60% is excreted unchanged. The
>young feast on adult's feces and you get multiple kills/ingested dose.
>
>--
>Uncle Al
>
>
No. The dry boric acid will not affect your concrete floor. Even
if it gets wet, the solution is a weak acid and the effect on the
concrete will be negligible. Do as Al suggests, mix the fine boric
acid with an equal amount of flour.
Jim
wrote:
I sure hope not. It used to be used as an eyewash. Dilute, of course.
--
Jim Naylor
jrna...@concentric.net
Graham Cowan
Jim wrote:
Stable isotope studies suggest it doesn't penetrate intact skin,
nor does it do anything to render skin unintact.
I wouldn't be surprised if the roaches don't actually die,
although a lot of people seem to think they do.
But merely being a very weak acid, so weak that Wal-Mart's
alleged difficulty selling it under the "acid" name might have been
effectively cancelled by just calling it trihydroxyboron,
doesn't mean it won't attack concrete.
Calcium borates are somewhat soluble.
Unable to decide what would happen, I found a little piece of
concrete and put it under water, on a bed of boric acid,
and boiled them in the microwave.
There is lots of gas coming out of the concrete now.
---
Boron is an interesting possible fuel, lighter than gasoline
and with a manageable solid ash.
Come see http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/boron_blast.html or
http://members.xoom.com/I2M/boron_blast.html .
Jim
> ?
>
> Jim wrote:
>
> > In article <39830ca...@news.oanet.com>, rtotman@(REMOVE).oanet.com
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 07:41:01 -0700, Uncle Al
> > > <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Dan Jacobson wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Regarding the miracle roach killer, boric acid, in order for it to
> > > >> get
> > > >> on
> > > >> roaches' bodies, I liberally scatter some on my cement floor.??
> > > >> But my
> > > >> wife
> > > >> says this will corrode the floor, and tells me to put the powder
> > > >> in
> > > >> little
> > > >> boxes, which the roaches will surely find their way into.? I say I
> > > >> bet
> > > >> it would
> > > >> take a long time to hurt the floor, and I don't think the roaches
> > > >> are
> > > >> smart
> > > >> enough to always check out little boxes.?? What to do?
> > > >
> > > >To have an effective roach killer you thoroughy mix finely powdered
> > > >boric acid with flour 50:50 and deposit small mounds or pencil
> > > >trails
> > > >in corners, along baseboards, or at the backs of cabinets.? Roaches
> > > >prefer dark, still, warm, secluded areas.
> > > >
> > > >Commercial baits like hydramethylnon have a similar strategy:? only
> > > >the metabolite is toxic, and about 60% is excreted unchanged.? The
> > > >young feast on adult's feces and you get multiple kills/ingested
> > > >dose.
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Uncle Al
> > > >
> > > >
> > > No.? The dry boric acid will not affect your concrete floor.? Even
> > > if it gets wet, the solution is a weak acid and the effect on the
> > > concrete will be negligible.? Do as Al suggests, mix the fine boric
> > > acid with an equal amount of flour.
> > >
> > I sure hope not. It used to be used as an eyewash. Dilute, of course.
>
> Stable isotope studies suggest it doesn't penetrate intact skin,
> nor does it do anything to render skin unintact.
> I wouldn't be surprised if the roaches don't actually die,
> although a lot of people seem to think they do.
>
> But merely being a very weak acid, so weak that Wal-Mart's
> alleged difficulty selling it under the "acid" name might have been
> effectively cancelled by just calling it trihydroxyboron,
> doesn't mean it won't attack concrete.
> Calcium borates are somewhat soluble.
>
> Unable to decide what would happen, I found a little piece of
> concrete and put it under water, on a bed of boric acid,
> and boiled them in the microwave.
> There is lots of gas coming out of the concrete now.
>
Oops! How can I ever again pit assumption against empirical data? All is
lost! Oh, woe! But wait--what happens without all the "stimulation?"
And what gas is it? H2O, possibly? And what about _now_? Is the concrete
damaged yet? ;-)
Thanks for the courteous comeuppance!
--
Jim Naylor
jrna...@concentric.net
Uncle Al
>
>
>
> Jim wrote:
>
> > In article <39830ca...@news.oanet.com>, rtotman@(REMOVE).oanet.com
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 07:41:01 -0700, Uncle Al
> > > <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Dan Jacobson wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Regarding the miracle roach killer, boric acid, in order for it to get
> > > >> on
[snip]
> > > >To have an effective roach killer you thoroughy mix finely powdered
> > > >boric acid with flour 50:50 and deposit small mounds or pencil trails
> > > >in corners, along baseboards, or at the backs of cabinets. Roaches
> > > >prefer dark, still, warm, secluded areas.
[snip]
> Stable isotope studies suggest it doesn't penetrate intact skin,
> nor does it do anything to render skin unintact.
> I wouldn't be surprised if the roaches don't actually die,
> although a lot of people seem to think they do.
>
> But merely being a very weak acid, so weak that Wal-Mart's
> alleged difficulty selling it under the "acid" name might have been
> effectively cancelled by just calling it trihydroxyboron,
> doesn't mean it won't attack concrete.
> Calcium borates are somewhat soluble.
[snip]
Ingested boron is quite satisfactorily toxic. Boric acid won't attack
concrete unles it is very pitiful concrete or you really honk on it..
Graham Cowan
Jim wrote:
> In article <3983234D...@eagle.ca>, gco...@eagle.ca wrote:
>
> > ?
> >
> > Jim wrote:
> >
> > > In article <39830ca...@news.oanet.com>, rtotman@(REMOVE).oanet.com
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 07:41:01 -0700, Uncle Al
> > > > <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Dan Jacobson wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regarding the miracle roach killer, boric acid, in order for it to
> > > > >> get
> > > > >> on
> > > > >> roaches' bodies, I liberally scatter some on my cement floor.??
> > > > >> But my
> > > > >> wife
> > > > >> says this will corrode the floor, and tells me to put the powder
> > > > >> in
> > > > >> little
> > > > >> boxes, which the roaches will surely find their way into.? I say I
> > > > >> bet
> > > > >> it would
> > > > >> take a long time to hurt the floor, and I don't think the roaches
> > > > >> are
> > > > >> smart
> > > > >> enough to always check out little boxes.?? What to do?
> > > > >
> > > > >To have an effective roach killer you thoroughy mix finely powdered
> > > > >boric acid with flour 50:50 and deposit small mounds or pencil
> > > > >trails
> > > > >in corners, along baseboards, or at the backs of cabinets.? Roaches
> > > > >prefer dark, still, warm, secluded areas.
> > > > >
> > > > >Commercial baits like hydramethylnon have a similar strategy:? only
> > > > >the metabolite is toxic, and about 60% is excreted unchanged.? The
> > > > >young feast on adult's feces and you get multiple kills/ingested
> > > > >dose.
> > > > >
> > > > >--
> > > > >Uncle Al
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > No.? The dry boric acid will not affect your concrete floor.? Even
> > > > if it gets wet, the solution is a weak acid and the effect on the
> > > > concrete will be negligible.? Do as Al suggests, mix the fine boric
> > > > acid with an equal amount of flour.
> > > >
> > > I sure hope not. It used to be used as an eyewash. Dilute, of course.
> >
> > Stable isotope studies suggest it doesn't penetrate intact skin,
> > nor does it do anything to render skin unintact.
> > I wouldn't be surprised if the roaches don't actually die,
> > although a lot of people seem to think they do.
> >
> > But merely being a very weak acid, so weak that Wal-Mart's
> > alleged difficulty selling it under the "acid" name might have been
> > effectively cancelled by just calling it trihydroxyboron,
> > doesn't mean it won't attack concrete.
> > Calcium borates are somewhat soluble.
> >
> > Unable to decide what would happen, I found a little piece of
> > concrete and put it under water, on a bed of boric acid,
> > and boiled them in the microwave.
> > There is lots of gas coming out of the concrete now.
> >
>
> Oops! How can I ever again pit assumption against empirical data?
> All is lost! Oh, woe! But wait--what happens without all the "stimulation?"
> And what gas is it? H2O, possibly? And what about _now_?
> Is the concrete damaged yet? ;-)
No, it just continues to bubble but stays in one piece.
Maybe this particular concrete has, or had, a lot of carbonate in it.
Maybe it's getting stronger now.
Raoul X
>
> In article <39830ca...@news.oanet.com>, rtotman@(REMOVE).oanet.com
> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 07:41:01 -0700, Uncle Al
> > <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
> >
> > >Dan Jacobson wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Regarding the miracle roach killer, boric acid, in order for it to get
> > >> on
> > >> wife
> > >> says this will corrode the floor, and tells me to put the powder in
> > >> little
> > >> it would
> > >> take a long time to hurt the floor, and I don't think the roaches are
> > >> smart
> > >
> > >To have an effective roach killer you thoroughy mix finely powdered
> > >boric acid with flour 50:50 and deposit small mounds or pencil trails
> > >prefer dark, still, warm, secluded areas.
> > >
> > >the metabolite is toxic, and about 60% is excreted unchanged. The
> > >young feast on adult's feces and you get multiple kills/ingested dose.
> > >
> > >--
> > >Uncle Al
> > >
> > >
> > if it gets wet, the solution is a weak acid and the effect on the
> > acid with an equal amount of flour.
> >
> I sure hope not. It used to be used as an eyewash. Dilute, of course.
Diluted flour?
look here@att.net Gromit
dispensing non-pesticide advice for dealing with animals and insects, see
http://uddercream.com/trapper.html. He tells plenty of folks to use Twenty
Mule Team Borax on sills, floors, and cupboards. It's been around for
decades with no problems on concrete.
Tom
"Dan Jacobson" <jid...@kimo.FIXcomTHIS.tw> wrote in message
news:8lucco$q...@netnews.hinet.net...
> Regarding the miracle roach killer, boric acid, in order for it to get on
> roaches' bodies, I liberally scatter some on my cement floor. But my
wife
> says this will corrode the floor, and tells me to put the powder in little
> boxes, which the roaches will surely find their way into. I say I bet it
would
> take a long time to hurt the floor, and I don't think the roaches are
smart
> enough to always check out little boxes. What to do?
alan
insects. Does anyone know where this myth about boric and insects
originates? I wasted time and boric acid on an ant problem. They crawl all
over it and just carry on. Finally got some tropical ant treatment, Bayer
product , "contains phoxene" (?) . One smidge, no more ants. Also safe on
concrete.
alan
Jim <jrna...@concentric.net> wrote in message
news:jrnaylor-E44B88...@news.concentric.net...
> In article <3983234D...@eagle.ca>, gco...@eagle.ca wrote:
>
> > ?
> >
> > Jim wrote:
> >
> > > In article <39830ca...@news.oanet.com>,
rtotman@(REMOVE).oanet.com
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 07:41:01 -0700, Uncle Al
> > > > <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Dan Jacobson wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regarding the miracle roach killer, boric acid, in order for it
to
> > > > >> get
> > > > >> on
> > > > >> roaches' bodies, I liberally scatter some on my cement floor.??
> > > > >> But my
> > > > >> wife
> > > > >> says this will corrode the floor, and tells me to put the powder
> > > > >> in
> > > > >> little
> > > > >> boxes, which the roaches will surely find their way into.? I say
I
> > > > >> bet
> > > > >> it would
> > > > >> take a long time to hurt the floor, and I don't think the roaches
> > > > >> are
> > > > >> smart
> > > > >> enough to always check out little boxes.?? What to do?
> > > > >
> > > > >To have an effective roach killer you thoroughy mix finely powdered
> > > > >boric acid with flour 50:50 and deposit small mounds or pencil
> > > > >trails
> > > > >in corners, along baseboards, or at the backs of cabinets.? Roaches
> > > > >prefer dark, still, warm, secluded areas.
> > > > >
> > > > >Commercial baits like hydramethylnon have a similar strategy:? only
> > > > >the metabolite is toxic, and about 60% is excreted unchanged.? The
> > > > >young feast on adult's feces and you get multiple kills/ingested
> > > > >dose.
> > > > >
> > > > >--
> > > > >Uncle Al
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > No.? The dry boric acid will not affect your concrete floor.? Even
> > > > if it gets wet, the solution is a weak acid and the effect on the
> > > > concrete will be negligible.? Do as Al suggests, mix the fine boric
> > > > acid with an equal amount of flour.
> > > >
> > > I sure hope not. It used to be used as an eyewash. Dilute, of course.
> >
> > Stable isotope studies suggest it doesn't penetrate intact skin,
> > nor does it do anything to render skin unintact.
> > I wouldn't be surprised if the roaches don't actually die,
> > although a lot of people seem to think they do.
> >
> > But merely being a very weak acid, so weak that Wal-Mart's
> > alleged difficulty selling it under the "acid" name might have been
> > effectively cancelled by just calling it trihydroxyboron,
> > doesn't mean it won't attack concrete.
> > Calcium borates are somewhat soluble.
> >
> > Unable to decide what would happen, I found a little piece of
> > concrete and put it under water, on a bed of boric acid,
> > and boiled them in the microwave.
> > There is lots of gas coming out of the concrete now.
> >
>
> Oops! How can I ever again pit assumption against empirical data? All is
> lost! Oh, woe! But wait--what happens without all the "stimulation?"
> And what gas is it? H2O, possibly? And what about _now_? Is the concrete
> damaged yet? ;-)
>
kres...@my-deja.com
This makes sense. Borax is basic. I was a little uneasy about the
thought of boric acid being shaken or squirted into crevices where it
might run down the side of the laid cement (or concrete) floor. These
materials are usually basic, and acid rain slowly kills them (most
infamously reinforced concrete). No matter how weak the acids and
bases, neutralisation is still neutralisation. If it was my floor, I'd
put the poison away from the edges - you can always repair pits in the
surface, if any, more easily than nasty stuff below ground.
I think it's a poison, from what Al says, even though the hardness of
boric acid is 3 on the Moh scale, compared with about 1.5 for
diatomaceous earths. Diamond is 10. B(OH)3 could well damage chitin,
but I don't have figures for borax.
Once, when I was living in Texas, I was quietly reading a book when I
heard a scraping noise coming from a portable ghetto-blaster thing we'd
bought. It carried on and on and eventually I took the back off the
thing and found a two-inch cockroach in there, which had been pawing the
paper speaker cone. It simply could not have been inserted there when
it was that size. Did it grow inside the case - eating dust? Did
someone in the factory put it in there as a joke? Incidentally,
cockroaches aren't that stupid. What other insect will turn and run
back to the door if you simply throw it outdoors without breaking its
head first? What other insect will turn and run away if it hears a
woman scream?
;-)
<LmVg5.14272$RG6.1...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"Gromit" <Don't look he...@att.net> wrote:
> There is an oldtimer in my area who keeps busy on a local radio
show
> dispensing non-pesticide advice for dealing with animals and insects,
see
> http://uddercream.com/trapper.html. He tells plenty of folks to use
Twenty
> Mule Team Borax on sills, floors, and cupboards. It's been around for
> decades with no problems on concrete.
> Tom
>
> "Dan Jacobson" <jid...@kimo.FIXcomTHIS.tw> wrote in message
> news:8lucco$q...@netnews.hinet.net...
> > Regarding the miracle roach killer, boric acid, in order for it to
get on
> > roaches' bodies, I liberally scatter some on my cement floor. But
my
> wife
> > says this will corrode the floor, and tells me to put the powder in
little
> > boxes, which the roaches will surely find their way into. I say I
bet it
> would
> > take a long time to hurt the floor, and I don't think the roaches
are
> smart
> > enough to always check out little boxes. What to do?
> > Signed,
> > Timorous in Taiwan
> > --
> > www.geocities.com/jidanni ... fix e-mail address to reply; 縩うェ
> > Tel:+886-4-5854780; starting in year 2001: +886-4-25854780
> >
> >
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Bryan Shelton
>As others have observed, your concrete has nothing to fear.
>Neither do the insects. Does anyone know where this myth
>about boric and insects originates?
It's not a myth! Boric acid has been used against roaches
and other insects for about 100 years. I guarantee you
that it works!
>I wasted time and boric acid on an ant problem.
>They crawl all over it and just carry on.
You were probably impatient. It takes a while to work.
I have personally used it to kill ants.
Bryan
john d
wrote:
>Finally got some tropical ant treatment
thats what your mom said when i asked her how she got rid of her
crabs, last time i fucked her.
john d
Wanna know why this is happening?
Ask rikijo
Daito
vinny
Buzzard
Mr. Bean
rock
J.R. Xemblinosky
>
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:56:06 -0700, john d <jo...@hopmail.con> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:28:04 +0100, "alan" <ala...@dircon.co.uk>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Finally got some tropical ant treatment
> >
> >thats what your
>
> Welcome to my Kill file. How fortunate I'll never even see any message
> from you again.
You don't know John Dobbs very well.
mute-ant tomatoe
> ...
> Once, when I was living in Texas, I was quietly reading a book when I
> heard a scraping noise coming from a portable ghetto-blaster thing
we'd
> bought. It carried on and on and eventually I took the back off the
> thing and found a two-inch cockroach in there, which had been pawing
the
> paper speaker cone. It simply could not have been inserted there when
> it was that size. Did it grow inside the case - eating dust? Did
You know, them Aggie entomologists is always up to something.
> ... Incidentally,
> cockroaches aren't that stupid. ...
Well, yes and no – they can certainly be gluttons. In an ongoing
project to learn to visually identify various insect excreta, I had to
collect some sample droppings myself (couldn’t buy the reference
standards thru Sigma). I put a roach in a toy Ant Farm/plastic cage
(designed with narrow passageways for small ants), and after a day or
two gave it a single kernel of frozen corn to munch on. It devoured
3/4 of it, but swelled up so bad it got stuck in the ant-sized tunnels
and couldn’t move. I did get my prize though, a monstrous pellet.
> ... What other insect will turn and run
> back to the door if you simply throw it outdoors without breaking its
> head first? What other insect will turn and run away if it hears a
> woman scream?
> ;-)
8...@pobox.com
Flaagg
<xembl...@bungmunch.org> says...
>You don't know John Dobbs very well.
That's what my mom said.
--
Aaron M. Henne -mhm9x2-
http://members.home.net/flgz
"Flaagg: is a lamer because of his posting of crap, "He
types with his eyes closed or types with his head up his
fucking arsehole" His guy should get stuffed."
- Captain HaHa <anon...@cotse.com>
Flaagg
Azzy <az...@bungmunch.edu> says...
>Flaagg <flaagg@REMOVE_TO_EMAILusenet.com> wrote:
>> In article <398634...@bungmunch.org>, J.R. Xemblinosky
>> <xembl...@bungmunch.org> says...
>>
>> >8...@pobox.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:56:06 -0700, john d <jo...@hopmail.con> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:28:04 +0100, "alan" <ala...@dircon.co.uk>
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>Finally got some tropical ant treatment
>> >> >
>> >> >thats what your
>> >> -- garbage snipped --
>> >>
>> >> Welcome to my Kill file. How fortunate I'll never even see any message
>> >> from you again.
>> >
>> >You don't know John Dobbs very well.
>>
>> That's what my mom said.
>
>The last time I fucked her.
My mom asked why I couldn't be more like "that nice Azzy" later that
day, you know. It grossed me out pretty good.
Flaagg
Azzy <az...@bungmunch.edu> says...
>Flaagg <flaagg@REMOVE_TO_EMAILusenet.com> wrote:
>> In article <MPG.13eff987a...@west.usenetserver.com>, Uncle
>> Azzy <az...@bungmunch.edu> says...
>>
>> >Flaagg <flaagg@REMOVE_TO_EMAILusenet.com> wrote:
>> >> In article <398634...@bungmunch.org>, J.R. Xemblinosky
>> >> <xembl...@bungmunch.org> says...
>> >>
>> >> >8...@pobox.com wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:56:06 -0700, john d <jo...@hopmail.con> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:28:04 +0100, "alan" <ala...@dircon.co.uk>
>> >> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>Finally got some tropical ant treatment
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >thats what your
>> >> >> -- garbage snipped --
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Welcome to my Kill file. How fortunate I'll never even see any message
>> >> >> from you again.
>> >> >
>> >> >You don't know John Dobbs very well.
>> >>
>> >> That's what my mom said.
>> >
>> >The last time I fucked her.
>>
>> My mom asked why I couldn't be more like "that nice Azzy" later that
>> day, you know. It grossed me out pretty good.
>
>Eh, be a good son and do like your ol' ma wants and give her a ride on
>your love pony for awhile. After all the trouble she went through
>giving birth and raising you, you should at least satisfy such a simple
>request.
Feh. She was hammered during the birth, and she didn't do that great a
job raising me, either. Good ol Mom can rot on the 'women who will
never ride my love pony' list along with Pam Anderson for all I care.
Dave Hillstrom
<flaagg@REMOVE_TO_EMAILusenet.com> wrote:
Have you ever -asked- Pamela Anderson?
- Dave Hillstrom mhm15x4 meow
"Quotes can't be forced. They just come to you, like diarrhea."
-Dave Hillstrom mhm15x4
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S. Livesay King
I have the video.
Flaagg
King <slk...@fas.harvardMUNGE.edu.> says...
MPEG MPEG MPEG
Rick & Joyce
Thanks for all the information. According to a friend in the pest control
business that I know, the reason boric acid works is because the roaches
can't smell it and crawl through it. Roaches apparently breath through
their legs and it plugs the legs up so they can't breath I haven't
researched this, so I don't know how true this is, and I'm not a biologist.
Anyone know anything that might prove or disprove this?
Thanks,
Joyce
"Bryan Shelton" <br...@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:88FE492785E65CAA.843D2F43...@lp.airnews.net...
> On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:28:04 +0100, "alan" <ala...@dircon.co.uk> wrote:
>
LiberalFascist
>
> Dave Hillstrom wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:55:11 GMT, in sci.chem, Flaagg
> > <flaagg@REMOVE_TO_EMAILusenet.com> wrote:
> >
> > >In article <MPG.13f008215...@west.usenetserver.com>, Uncle
> > >Azzy <az...@bungmunch.edu> says...
> > >
> > >>Flaagg <flaagg@REMOVE_TO_EMAILusenet.com> wrote:
> > >>> In article <MPG.13eff987a...@west.usenetserver.com>, Uncle
> > >>> Azzy <az...@bungmunch.edu> says...
> > >>>
> > >>> >Flaagg <flaagg@REMOVE_TO_EMAILusenet.com> wrote:
> > >>> >> In article <398634...@bungmunch.org>, J.R. Xemblinosky
> > >>> >> <xembl...@bungmunch.org> says...
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> >8...@pobox.com wrote:
> > >>> >> >>
> > >>> >> >> On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:56:06 -0700, john d <jo...@hopmail.con> wrote:
> > >>> >> >>
> > >>> >> >> >wrote:
> > >>> >> >> >
> > >>> >> >> >
> > >>> >> >> >thats what your
> > >>> >> >> -- garbage snipped --
> > >>> >> >>
> > >>> >> >> Welcome to my Kill file. How fortunate I'll never even see any message
> > >>> >> >> from you again.
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >You don't know John Dobbs very well.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> That's what my mom said.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >The last time I fucked her.
> > >>>
> > >>> My mom asked why I couldn't be more like "that nice Azzy" later that
> > >>> day, you know. It grossed me out pretty good.
> > >>
> > >>Eh, be a good son and do like your ol' ma wants and give her a ride on
> > >>your love pony for awhile. After all the trouble she went through
> > >>giving birth and raising you, you should at least satisfy such a simple
> > >>request.
> > >
> > >Feh. She was hammered during the birth, and she didn't do that great a
> > >job raising me, either. Good ol Mom can rot on the 'women who will
> > >never ride my love pony' list along with Pam Anderson for all I care.
> >
> > Have you ever -asked- Pamela Anderson?
>
> I have the video.
PPOSTFU.
> >
> > - Dave Hillstrom mhm15x4 meow
> > "Quotes can't be forced. They just come to you, like diarrhea."
> > -Dave Hillstrom mhm15x4
> > http://www.flonk.org
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got ants in the house. Tried everything including boric mixes repeatedly and
settled on Sybol from ICI. Made a 5 litre mix and sprayed entire outside
base of house twice each summer. Just about kept the little bastards under
control. Then found "Baygon" while on holiday in S of France. Bought 4
tubes. Used about 0.1g. No more ants for three summers now.
alan
Bryan Shelton <br...@airmail.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:28:04 +0100, "alan" <ala...@dircon.co.uk> wrote:
>
DaMoll
>Hi. I've lurked here, reading posts from time to time to gain some insight.
>Thanks for all the information. According to a friend in the pest control
>business that I know, the reason boric acid works is because the roaches
>can't smell it and crawl through it. Roaches apparently breath through
>their legs and it plugs the legs up so they can't breath I haven't
>researched this, so I don't know how true this is, and I'm not a biologist.
>Anyone know anything that might prove or disprove this?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Joyce
Ya can't kill Mother Nature....the roaches are here to stay.
Dead Raoul
They can be rather fun to smoke, though.
---
The UPAist formerly known as Raoul Xemblinosky
07/11/95 - 08/02/00
Bryan Shelton
>Ya can't kill Mother Nature....the roaches are here to stay.
Much like the crossposters, I suppose, and equally disgusting...
Bryan
The Queen of Cans and Jars
> DaMoll wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:49:25 -0500, Rick & Joyce wrote:
> >
> > >Hi. I've lurked here, reading posts from time to time to gain some
> > >insight. Thanks for all the information. According to a friend in the
> > >pest control business that I know, the reason boric acid works is
> > >because the roaches can't smell it and crawl through it. Roaches
> > >apparently breath through their legs and it plugs the legs up so they
> > >can't breath I haven't researched this, so I don't know how true this
> > >is, and I'm not a biologist. Anyone know anything that might prove or
> > >disprove this?
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Joyce
> >
> > Ya can't kill Mother Nature....the roaches are here to stay.
>
> They can be rather fun to smoke, though.
dued, i like agree with this post.
DaMoll
>On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 12:17:41 GMT, DaM...@goplay.com (DaMoll) wrote:
>
>>Ya can't kill Mother Nature....the roaches are here to stay.
>
>Much like the crossposters, I suppose, and equally disgusting...
>
>Bryan
You're cute when you make faces.
<smooch>
DaMoll
>Nyahhhhhhhhhh.. <chomp chew> whazzup doc??
Awwww, hewwo. What a key00t widdle bunny...<scritch scritch>
Joe Kovacs
>As others have observed, your concrete has nothing to fear. Neither do the
>insects. Does anyone know where this myth about boric and insects
>originates? I wasted time and boric acid on an ant problem. They crawl all
>over it and just carry on. Finally got some tropical ant treatment, Bayer
>product , "contains phoxene" (?) . One smidge, no more ants. Also safe on
>concrete.
Yeah, that's my experience too. One summer huge black carpenter
ants showed up in my house. They were pretty happy ants,
doing whatever they wanted like crawling down my shirt,
getting bed with me and walking across my face at night,
producing lots of queens. I read a book, mixed up a boric acid
solution and left it around in low containers that they could get
into. They loved it. Stayed around for three or so years,
making lots more queens.
The boric acid was clearly not working. So I got spray cans of
double strength ant spray from a US hardware store (wasn't
available in Canada), sprayed along the baseboards according to
the directions. A few ants showed up for a few days, wandering
around kind of dizzy, and they were gone.
Later a city insect guy told me those ants are easy, the only
reason they ever come into a house is for water in a drought. So
to get rid of them, he said, don't have any open water.
So those ants _must have gone after the boric acid solution.
Crock of baloney, that's what.
This particular advice about using a boric acid solution for ant
control came out of a big book, something about 'Insect Control
the Natural Way'. Do-gooders again.
Joe Kovacs
Guelph Ontario Canada
how
>
> Hi. I've lurked here, reading posts from time to time to gain some insight.
> Thanks for all the information. According to a friend in the pest control
> business that I know, the reason boric acid works is because the roaches
> can't smell it and crawl through it. Roaches apparently breath through
> their legs and it plugs the legs up so they can't breath I haven't
> researched this, so I don't know how true this is, and I'm not a biologist.
> Anyone know anything that might prove or disprove this?
>
First time here. IIRC roaches (being fastidious?) eat the boric acid
from their feet and it acts like ground glass in their digestive track.
It does work on them whatever the process.
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