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Y.Porat

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Nov 2, 2009, 9:05:14 PM11/2/09
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in one of the latest discussions
i asked PD
how can you evaluate my model- if you dont have my book ??
His answer :
**i already have your book * !!

!!!!!!!!!!!! ?????????
i asked
how can you have my book
WHILE I NEVER GAVE IT TO YOU ???

his answer (sort of )
you are a senile old man who does not remember what he is
doing!!......

(between me and the other readers-
we are going now to see if i am an old man
who does not remember waht he is doing ...)

so i saied to him
if so
please send me a copy of the first cover page
on which i always ** write a personal dedication
to the person i sed it ..
no answer !!

so i keep asking
No answer...
after a few days
i get his brilliant idea:
' i lost your book
AND I DONT REMEMBER WERE IS IT ..."
than i
tell him:
if so
please show me the correspondence between us
to decide to which address i should post
to you the book
(it was always by airmail)
untill now he just ignore my questions
and requests !!

solet the other readers make thier conclutions
about that story
and here is my understanding about what happened

PD really got my book
**but not from me !!
he got a copy from someone lese
while PD refuses to revaeal the name of the crook
that sent him a copy of it
you see
the loyalty of PD to the crook that sent him the book
is bigger than his loyalty to the** writer **the book !!!
BTW it is not the first time that a similar story happened
in another case
a little crook from the Heidelberg University
called Bjorn Feuerbacher
sent a copy of my book
(AGAIN WITHOUT MY PERMITTION
AND WITHOUT NOTIFYING ME) -----

---- to another crook called Michel Moroney
that as well didnt bother to inform me about it

now just a little detail to the readers
THAT BOOK IS COPYRIGHTED
and itis nicely written on the opening of it

and i suppose that the rules of copyright
are well known to every one !!

i dont mind people distributing my book!!
i always send it free
i do mind doing it without my permition
and without telling me about it!!

is that an exaggerated request as a
minimal reward for my hard long work ???!!

Y.Porat
--------------------------


Aleph

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On 3/11/2009 02:05, in
sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity,sci.chem,
Y.Porat <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote:

> in one of the latest discussions
> i asked PD
> how can you evaluate my model- if you dont have my book ??

Its strange that you think the only way people can have an opinion on
your madness is if *you* gave them a copy of your book.

You are a strange person.

> <snip>


>
> (between me and the other readers-
> we are going now to see if i am an old man
> who does not remember waht he is doing ...)

Senile or not, you are a crackpot.

> <snip whining>


>
> and here is my understanding about what happened

You rarely show understanding of anything.

> PD really got my book
> **but not from me !!
> he got a copy from someone lese

Do you force anyone you send a copy of the book to agree to your
draconian controls on how it can be passed on?

What NDA do you make them sign up to?

> while PD refuses to revaeal the name of the crook
> that sent him a copy of it

Why is it a crook thing to do? Have you ever heard of second hand book
shops?

> you see
> the loyalty of PD to the crook that sent him the book
> is bigger than his loyalty to the** writer **the book !!!

Do you blame him? You are a babbling usenet buffoon. Why would anyone be
loyal to you?

> BTW it is not the first time that a similar story happened
> in another case
> a little crook from the Heidelberg University
> called Bjorn Feuerbacher
> sent a copy of my book
> (AGAIN WITHOUT MY PERMITTION
> AND WITHOUT NOTIFYING ME) -----

Why should they? Did they buy the book? Do you lend it to them and
demand they look after it for you, free of charge?

> ---- to another crook called Michel Moroney
> that as well didnt bother to inform me about it
>
> now just a little detail to the readers
> THAT BOOK IS COPYRIGHTED
> and itis nicely written on the opening of it

You dont understand what that means.

> and i suppose that the rules of copyright
> are well known to every one !!

You dont understand them.

> i dont mind people distributing my book!!
> i always send it free

So what?

> i do mind doing it without my permition
> and without telling me about it!!

So what? You can mind it all you like. How are you going to police it?
How are you going to enforce it? How does it fall within fair use terms?

> is that an exaggerated request as a
> minimal reward for my hard long work ???!!

Sadly, yes. If you dont like it, sell your book and get your reward that
way.

Once you send the book to someone else, you dont have any real control
over what happens to it physically. If someone plagiarises it, then you
can complain. If someone tries to pass it off as their own, and you find
out about, you can complain.

But once you have given it to someone, you will find it hard to stop
them giving, or loaning, it to someone else.

When you buy a car, do you have to tell Ford if you let your kid drive
it?

--
Aleph

This message was posted to usenet so please reply that way. Emails to
this account are very likely to be ignored.

eric gisse

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Y.Porat wrote:

[...]

I have a copy of your book too. I used it to start fires.

Dirk Van de moortel

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Y.Porat

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On Nov 3, 12:19 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel"

-------------------
i am waiting until the list of the
monkey trap
will be completed .... (:-)
so
jumping monkeys of the world join up
and unite
and enter yourself into the list of the monkey trap -- until it is
filled (:-)

that does not include PD
he(his majesty himself) is invited to respond my causation with the
reduction of not
entering to that list
becsuse non of the above monkeys
as any say about the above issue

the above issue has nothing to do
whether i am right scientifically or not
it is an ethics test
a standard of decent behavior
or not !!
a test of **being a lier about facts**
or not !!
nothing to do with scientifically being right or wrong
for little crook hired gangsters it is not an issue -
decency is not in their vocabulary at all!!
Y.P
--------------------------

Dirk Van de moortel

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Y.Porat wrote:
> On Nov 3, 12:19 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel"
> <dirkvandemoor...@nospAm.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Y.Porat wrote:

[plink]

You might consider seeing a doctor:
http://www.who-rabies-bulletin.org/About_Rabies/What_is_rabies.aspx

Dirk Vdm


Y.Porat

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On Nov 3, 1:33 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel"

-----------------
Hi
nasty pigg Van Der Schmate!!
Y.P
----------------------

Y.Porat

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Nov 3, 2009, 2:28:28 PM11/3/09
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On Nov 3, 6:56 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
wrote:
> It's great for starting fires, isn't it.

------------------
common nasty pigg imbecile
do you understand what is in that book?

a pigg like you never informwed me about tthe fact that another
shamless
moron parrot pigg from Hedelberg
sent you my book witrhout my permission

with his idiotic remarks on it
you never discused it withme
and an matheamtics imbecile parrot like
you has not the slightest chance to understand it

if it so bad
why is it that this book
is distributed*** under the ground*
again and again
to so many people ??!!!
2
where is your Higgs Boson Mr imbecile crook shameless parrot
dont you think that your fucken books
are better material for burning ??!!
3
is that response of your nothing but
a nasty attempt to cover your
Piggish moronic behavior against me ??!!
while you are not only Moroney--
you are a nasty crook moron
4
suppose even that htis book is worth nothing

what is your piggish post to do with
the fact that draper is a lier?
is it a nasty attempt to divert the issue
that you like him are thieves and crooks ??!!
Y.P
------------------------


eric gisse

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Y.Porat wrote:

> On Nov 3, 6:56 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
> wrote:
>> eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...@gmail.com> writes:
>> >Y.Porat wrote:
>> >[...]
>> >I have a copy of your book too. I used it to start fires.
>>
>> It's great for starting fires, isn't it.
>
> ------------------
> common nasty pigg imbecile
> do you understand what is in that book?

No, because you write gibberish.

[snip rest, unread]

Y.Porat

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now Moroney

what have you done with my book ??
why ddint you tell me that you got it
from the Psychopath Feurerbacher !!!

PEOPLE WHO ARE LIARS IN PERSONAL RELATIONS
WILL BE LIARS ABOUT SCIENCE !!!

Y.Porat
-------------------------

Y.Porat

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-----------------
where from you got that copy ??

Y.P
--------------------

Aleph

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On Tuesday 03 November 2009 13:15, in <9687ac4f-bea1-4514-9f27-
f441cc...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote:

> <snip>


> -----------------
> Hi
> nasty pigg Van Der Schmate!!
> Y.P
> ----------------------

Your posts, basically, boil down to "whine, insult, whine, conspiracy
theory, godwins law, whine, whine, whine."

Get a life.

Y.Porat

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On Nov 4, 3:21 pm, Aleph <Usenet....@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 November 2009 13:15, in <9687ac4f-bea1-4514-9f27-
> f441ccb31...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote:
>
> > <snip>
> > -----------------
> > Hi
> > nasty pigg Van Der Schmate!!
> > Y.P
> > ----------------------
>
> Your posts, basically, boil down to "whine, insult, whine, conspiracy
> theory, godwins law, whine, whine, whine."
>
> Get a life.
>
> --
> Aleph
>
> This message was posted to usenet so please reply that way. Emails to
> this account are very likely to be ignored.

--------------
do you have anything else to renew
beside what you already said??
did you ever innovated anything in physics ??
2
i as the op poster started with
4 ng s
why do you cult 3 of them ??
while you actually say nothing??
is it because actually your poast
is not worth while even for one NG ??
(:-)
Mr Varney
what is your day job??
it seems that you just a bump parasite
hat could not get a decent day job!!
Y.P
-----------------------


Cwatters

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Nov 4, 2009, 10:04:45 AM11/4/09
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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> i dont mind people distributing my book!!
> i always send it free i do mind doing it without
> my permition and without telling me about it!!
>
> is that an exaggerated request as a
> minimal reward for my hard long work ???!!
>
> Y.Porat
> --------------------------
>

Once you give something away it's no longer yours. Sure you can stop people
coppying and selling a book but you can't stop them giving away a copy you
gave them.


Y.Porat

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On Nov 4, 5:04 pm, "Cwatters"
<colin.wattersNOS...@TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote:
> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
-------------
you missed mypoint!!
i said about that i have no objection
to distribute my book
th eonly humble request i ask
is to be fair to me as one who invested in it
many years of my life
so
it is to inform me about any one who gets it
or betetr to ask me before giving it
to someone
because excuse me
i would like to filter the people that gets it
(and i have some good reasons to do it...)
2
the point here was another one
i would hapyly give my book to someone like
PD
the thing that annoyed me very mauch
is that Pd lied that i gve him that copy
prsenting me as a senile old man
that insinuating by that
that it is not worthy to take me seriously
**in anything i do *
ie
my model is worthnothing
and that is a super crime against science !
a supercrime that a scientist can do
from the ethics point of view
because
Pd undestood nothing
*and could not undesrant anything ther
without my help !!
he has avery differnt education than me
he never innovated anything in physics
he has no real idea
howe pioneering science is done!!
because he never was there !!
and topos as if my model is worth nothing
is byond the limits of decency
in less gentle words
he is a crook
because he knowes well
that my model is unpfecedented
(provided he coud follow even a bit of it )
but
he is motivated by some
PERSONAL POLITICS AGENDA!)
whichis for him
ABOVE ALL !!
ie even above truth
and that cannot be done by someone who
pose himsemf as a PHYSICS TEACHER !!!

science is not only this or that knowledge
it is first of all
HONESTY!
someone who is not honest
there is no way that he will be honest
in science
you can cheat people but you cant cheat nature !!
ATB
Y.Porat
----------------------

eric gisse

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Y.Porat wrote:
[...]

> now Moroney
>
> what have you done with my book ??
> why ddint you tell me that you got it
> from the Psychopath Feurerbacher !!!

He got it from somewhere else. Don't you remember...?

Y.Porat

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Nov 4, 2009, 12:55:22 PM11/4/09
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Gisse
i am 71
but still alive and kicking!! (sad for you
and Inertial .while both of you wish me die .... (:-)
dont be mistaken about it !!

becauase it whant help you

He Moroney )got it from Bjoern Feuerbacher f
who was a student in Heidelberg !!!
i even remember that that idiot lier traitor
Feuebacher scrambled on my book
his idiotic parrots moron remarks
and set it like that (without my permission to Moroney
he told me that later
Y.P
-----------------

Michael Moroney

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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> writes:

>now Moroney

>what have you done with my book ??

Well, the "rectangular pipes" are too harsh on sensitive body parts to use
it as toilet paper, but as I mentioned, it does burn real well. I use
firewood for some heat to save money and it's quite useful for starting
fires.

Ahmed Ouahi, Architect

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Kicking what whether
The time or the nature

One does not whatever
Moves out of the other

--
Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
Best Regards!


"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> kirjoitti
viestiss�:c9122a90-e8e8-4bbf...@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

Aleph

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On Wednesday 04 November 2009 15:26, in <1c83c3b2-1269-4331-b8d9-
e854a7...@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote:

> -------------
> you missed mypoint!!

I dont think anyone did.

> i said about that i have no objection
> to distribute my book
> th eonly humble request i ask
> is to be fair to me as one who invested in it
> many years of my life
> so
> it is to inform me about any one who gets it
> or betetr to ask me before giving it
> to someone
> because excuse me
> i would like to filter the people that gets it
> (and i have some good reasons to do it...)

Well, you can ask but realistically you have no way to either enforce this,
or any real grounds to get uptight if it isnt followed.

You *think* this isnt an onerous request because you dont see any money
changing hands, but it is quite a strict licensing condition.

For example, if you gave the book to me, and I gave it to a charity shop
because after reading I realized you are an idiot, how could I be expected
to tell *you* who now owned it?

You can not control this. Trying to do so, without the backing of the RIAA
or whatever will lead to you becoming even more insane than you already are.

> <snip whining>

Blah, blah, blah. Stop whining.

Aleph

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On Wednesday 04 November 2009 14:42, in <52307853-c8e1-41ed-

a68a-8cd...@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote:

> <snip>
>

> --------------
> do you have anything else to renew

Nope, all my library books are in date. Thanks for the reminder though.

> beside what you already said??
> did you ever innovated anything in physics ??

ROTFLMAO.

Your attempts at deflection are pathetic. Your attempt to imply *you* have
ever innovated anything is equally pathetic *and* comical.

Bravo Sir.

> 2
> i as the op poster started with
> 4 ng s
> why do you cult 3 of them ??

Because cross posting is annoying and, simply, because my newsreader trims
posts automatically. I have to make a conscious effort to keep up with your
desire to spread nonsense across multiple groups, so I dont bother.

> while you actually say nothing??

I say as much that is on topic as you do.

> is it because actually your poast
> is not worth while even for one NG ??
> (:-)

Blah, blah.

> Mr Varney
> what is your day job??

Obviously you are not talking to me here, so I wont answer.

> it seems that you just a bump parasite
> hat could not get a decent day job!!

Boring and repetitive insult. You can do better.

Y.Porat

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On Nov 4, 8:14 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
wrote:

-----------------------
shameless crook imbecile
and moron parrot
go on with your Higgs Bosons theiries
to the rest of your life
you dont deserve more
you are a nasty creep and a thief as well
Y.P
-----------------------

Y.Porat

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On Nov 4, 9:14 pm, Aleph <Usenet....@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 November 2009 15:26, in <1c83c3b2-1269-4331-b8d9-

-----------------
if you read my book
and find out that it is nonsense
**you will not bother to pass it to other people!!**

now what happens here is completely diffrent

people pass it from one to another one
they would not do it unless they feel that there is something new
and very unique special and innovative is going on
even if they cant follow it all along --without my help
keep well
idiot crook psychopath gangster
but it want help you
you cant cheat every one forever !!
even if you are Goebbels ...
Y.P
---------------------------

Inertial

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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Sue him Michael. We should all get a court order to forbid him from using
the internet to post criminal allegations against people.

Aleph

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On Wednesday 04 November 2009 20:44, in <f4843cfb-e1f4-4973-b37f-
d8b596...@v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote:

> <snip for sanity>


> -----------------
> if you read my book

Why on Earth would I want to? Life is to short to destroy my brain cells in
that manner.

> and find out that it is nonsense

Undoubtedly. Unless you have an alter ego that is capable of writing
coherently and sensibly. If you do, please ask it to post here rather than
you.

> **you will not bother to pass it to other people!!**

Well, its better than burning it.

> now what happens here is completely diffrent

Why?

> people pass it from one to another one
> they would not do it unless they feel that there is something new

Possibly true - however you are trying to prevent this.

> and very unique special and innovative is going on

Unlikely.

> even if they cant follow it all along --without my help

That sounds quite likely.

> keep well

I am thanks.

> idiot crook psychopath gangster

You forgot Nazi parrot.

> but it want help you
> you cant cheat every one forever !!
> even if you are Goebbels ...

There you go.

Y.Porat

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please note that until now 5-11
PD
ddint respond to my accusation.....
no answer is an answer as well !!!

Y.P
--------------------------

Y.Porat

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On Nov 5, 1:46 am, Aleph <Usenet....@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 November 2009 20:44, in <f4843cfb-e1f4-4973-b37f-

-----------------
io must say that
Aleph
responded this time in a semi civilized manner (:-)
thank you Aleph
btw
try to find out what is the meaning of Aleph
it has a distinctive definition.....
and origin
keep well
Y.Porat
----------------------------

Cwatters

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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 4, 5:04 pm, "Cwatters"
<colin.wattersNOS...@TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote:
>> Once you give something away it's no longer yours. Sure you can stop
>> people
>> coppying and selling a book but you can't stop them giving away a copy
>> you
>> gave them.
>-------------
>you missed mypoint!!
>i said about that i have no objection
>to distribute my book
>th eonly humble request i ask
>is to be fair to me as one who invested in it
>many years of my life so it is to inform
> me about any one who gets it

Have them sign a contract next time.


Aleph

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On Thursday 05 November 2009 09:32, in <814836cb-c7e7-45fe-

b91b-7ef...@t2g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote:
>
> please note that until now 5-11
> PD
> ddint respond to my accusation.....

Why should he? Who made you the boss of Usenet?

> no answer is an answer as well !!!

On the contrary. No answer is no answer. You may draw a conclusion from
that, but that is a totally different thing.

As you are insane, its likely that your conclusion is madness.

Y.Porat

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On Nov 5, 3:30 pm, "Cwatters"
<colin.wattersNOS...@TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote:
> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message

---------------
how could i sign a contract
while i ddint know he has got the book!!

he ddint get it from me
**he got it from someone else!!**
dont you get the point ??
ps
he could get it from me directly! free
isuggested it forhim and he ignored my suggestion
do you see that oint as well::
he wated it in a way that no one will know
]he got it from me !
so may be one day he coul 'borrow' something of it and relate it to
himself or to some of his freinds !!...
btw
it is not the first time he behaved like that with me
in a nother case he
presented an idea of mine
without mensioning me as the orriginator
so peole would relate it as his idea
it was about
presenting the formula

E energy
of F force in high velocities
not as
F = Gamma m a
but rather

F/gamma = m a
AND m (mass) ** remains constant*
so i asked him
how come that you dont mention me
as orriginator
and he answered
*it was claimed 80 years ago
and rejected'' end of his quote

so i told him
80 years ago ??!!
how can you say that
'please show references'

and he could not find references
in other words
he was cheating !! (on my back )
so
is it a systematic behavior of PD??
(while counting on my 'bad memory ""??
may be he is doing it to other people as well ??
btw
anyone who is counting on my bad memory
will make a bad mistake
BTW
there is another 'figure' here
that got my book from me
and wishing me tolately openly in any post
- to die (:-)
is it a similar idea ??
ATB
Y.Porat
------------------------

ATB
Y.Porat
------------------------


ATB
Y.Porat
--------------------------------

Y.Porat

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On Nov 5, 5:53 pm, Aleph <Usenet....@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> On Thursday 05 November 2009 09:32, in <814836cb-c7e7-45fe-
> b91b-7efcca443...@t2g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote:
>
>
>
> > please note that until now 5-11
> > PD
> > ddint respond to my accusation.....
>
> Why should he? Who made you the boss of Usenet?
>
> > no answer is an answer as well  !!!
>
> On the contrary. No answer is no answer. You may draw a conclusion from
> that, but that is a totally different thing.
>
> As you are insane, its likely that your conclusion is madness.
>
> --
> Aleph
>
> This message was posted to usenet so please reply that way. Emails to
> this account are very likely to be ignored.

--------------
if your name is Paul Draper
please let me know about it (:-)
Y.P
-------------------------------

Aleph

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On Thursday 05 November 2009 16:27, in <1fee88e0-d258-49a1-82d1-

ae4120...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote:

> On Nov 5, 3:30 pm, "Cwatters"

> <snip>


>>
>> Have them sign a contract next time.
>
> ---------------
> how could i sign a contract
> while i ddint know he has got the book!!

Do you deliberately miss the point?

The implication was, get the people whom you inflict the book upon to sign a
contract restricting what they do with it.

Without that, good look.

> he ddint get it from me
> **he got it from someone else!!**
> dont you get the point ??

Unlike you, everyone else got it.

> ps
> he could get it from me directly! free

Why would some one want to let *you* of all nutcases know where they lived?

Aleph

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On Thursday 05 November 2009 16:30, in <68e76002-8bbe-46d8-8fdc-

b75188...@o10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote:

>
> --------------
> if your name is Paul Draper
> please let me know about it (:-)

If I was, I would.

If your name is Elvis Presley, please let me know about it.

Michael Moroney

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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> writes:

>On Nov 4, 8:14=A0pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)


>wrote:
>> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> writes:
>> >now Moroney
>> >what have you done with my book ??
>>

>> Well, the "rectangular pipes" are too harsh on sensitive body parts to us=
>e
>> it as toilet paper, but as I mentioned, it does burn real well. =A0I use


>> firewood for some heat to save money and it's quite useful for starting
>> fires.

>-----------------------
>shameless crook imbecile
>and moron parrot
>go on with your Higgs Bosons theiries
>to the rest of your life
>you dont deserve more
>you are a nasty creep and a thief as well
>Y.P
>-----------------------

Tonight, we'll get to see how well "potassium" burns. It ought to be
exciting!

Cwatters

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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> ---------------
>how could i sign a contract
>while i ddint know he has got the book!!

Duh..Not with him. Gosh you are slow.

Sign contracts with everyone you give your book to preventing them giving
their copy to anyone else without your permission.


David Bostwick

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Nov 5, 2009, 2:59:34 PM11/5/09
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Why would anyone steal this book? I wouldn't even bother reading it.

Inertial

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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> please note that until now 5-11
> PD
> ddint respond to my accusation.....
> no answer is an answer as well !!!

He probably has you blocked/plonked ... or just doesn't think your nonsense
allegations are worth responding to.

Inertial

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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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He said he did

> isuggested it forhim and he ignored my suggestion
> do you see that oint as well::
> he wated it in a way that no one will know
> ]he got it from me !
> so may be one day he coul 'borrow' something of it and relate it to
> himself or to some of his freinds !!...
> btw
> it is not the first time he behaved like that with me
> in a nother case he
> presented an idea of mine
> without mensioning me as the orriginator
> so peole would relate it as his idea
> it was about
> presenting the formula
>
> E energy
> of F force in high velocities
> not as
> F = Gamma m a

Which is not the correct formula for force in SR anyway

> but rather
>
> F/gamma = m a

Which is the same incorrect formula trivially rewritten, not something you
can make any claim to

> AND m (mass) ** remains constant*

Which is the case anyway

> so i asked him
> how come that you dont mention me
> as orriginator

Because you are not.

> and he answered
> *it was claimed 80 years ago
> and rejected'' end of his quote
>
> so i told him
> 80 years ago ??!!
> how can you say that
> 'please show references'
>
> and he could not find references
> in other words
> he was cheating !! (on my back )

Nope. He just didn't find the references. Not that he has to.

> so
> is it a systematic behavior of PD??
> (while counting on my 'bad memory ""??
> may be he is doing it to other people as well ??
> btw
> anyone who is counting on my bad memory
> will make a bad mistake

You are senile

> BTW
> there is another 'figure' here
> that got my book from me
> and wishing me tolately openly in any post
> - to die (:-)
> is it a similar idea ??
> ATB
> Y.Porat

Get psychological help .. or die. Whichever is easier for you.

Y.Porat

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On Nov 5, 6:47 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)

-------------------
another idiot crook thief on the net !!
Y.P
---------------------

BURT

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Nov 5, 2009, 11:52:35 PM11/5/09
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> ---------------------- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Falling things get slower in time.

Mitch Raemsch

Y.Porat

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On Nov 5, 6:30 pm, Aleph <Usenet....@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> On Thursday 05 November 2009 16:27, in <1fee88e0-d258-49a1-82d1-

-----------------
as usual you are an idiot!! :
i was **always **arranging that corespondent
about were to send the book ----
PRIVATELY !!!
got it idiot gangster crook idiot ??
2
i was assuming *and expecting* -some ethics
from the people to whom i sent it !!

does the word 'ethics' is existing in your
gangster world - vocabulary
----

Y.P
----------------------------

Y.Porat

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On Nov 5, 8:18 pm, "Cwatters"
<colin.wattersNOS...@TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote:
> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message

--------------------
have you heared abiout ethics that is expected fromj scientists??
2
no contract is worth the paper it is written on
if the other side has no intention to
obey it !!!
so in those cases you have to gable on trust

and that is exactly my point against
all those who breached my trust

i want to present them as
peole whm you cant trust !!
and nothing more i can do about it !!

got the poing ??!!
2
by publishing those detiles
it is some way to * restore* a bit
of my copyrights ...
peole can have some betetr idea
to whom those copyrights really belongs!!
got the idea ??
it is not as much as i want to defame
say PD --- (i dont mind too much about him)

i mind more guarding my copyrights at lest in memory of people !!

that is the least i can do in these cases
and it is enough fo r me

(i am not going ((and i cant ) to sue anyone of them

ATB
Y.Porat
---------------------------

Y.Porat

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On Nov 5, 9:59 pm, david.bostw...@chemistry.gatech.edu (David
Bostwick) wrote:
> In article <S8KdnXTRd_V8i27XnZ2dnUVZ8oudn...@brightview.co.uk>, "Cwatters" <colin.wattersNOS...@TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >"Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> >news:1fee88e0-d258-49a1...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> >> ---------------
> >>how could i sign a contract
> >>while i ddint know he has got the book!!
>
> >Duh..Not with him. Gosh you are slow.
>
> >Sign contracts with everyone you give your book to preventing them giving
> >their copy to anyone else without your permission.
>
> Why would anyone steal this book?  I wouldn't even bother reading it.

----------------
it seems that you have no idea
about what you are talking about (:-)
did you ever saw or understood what is in that book ??

Y.P
-------------

Inertial

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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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If it is ANYTHING like what you post here .. it is crap .. using it for
toilet paper would be over-valuing it.

Inertial

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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 5, 8:18 pm, "Cwatters"
> <colin.wattersNOS...@TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote:
>> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1fee88e0-d258-49a1...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > ---------------
>> >how could i sign a contract
>> >while i ddint know he has got the book!!
>>
>> Duh..Not with him. Gosh you are slow.
>>
>> Sign contracts with everyone you give your book to preventing them giving
>> their copy to anyone else without your permission.
>
> --------------------
> have you heared abiout ethics that is expected fromj scientists??

You are neither ethical nor a scientist, as your post here prove

> 2
> no contract is worth the paper it is written on
> if the other side has no intention to
> obey it !!!
> so in those cases you have to gable on trust
>
> and that is exactly my point against
> all those who breached my trust
>
> i want to present them as
> peole whm you cant trust !!
> and nothing more i can do about it !!
>
> got the poing ??!!

the poing?

> 2
> by publishing those detiles
> it is some way to * restore* a bit
> of my copyrights ...
> peole can have some betetr idea
> to whom those copyrights really belongs!!
> got the idea ??
> it is not as much as i want to defame
> say PD --- (i dont mind too much about him)
>
> i mind more guarding my copyrights at lest in memory of people !!
>
> that is the least i can do in these cases
> and it is enough fo r me
>
> (i am not going ((and i cant ) to sue anyone of them

Then stop your allegations before someone sues you. Show some ethics of
your own.

Inertial

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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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As he said .. why would ANYONE want to let you know their con tact details
.. you're mentally unbalanced. God only knows what you might do in one of
your fits of anger that you display in this forums so regularly.

> 2
> i was assuming *and expecting* -some ethics
> from the people to whom i sent it !!
>
> does the word 'ethics' is existing in your
> gangster world - vocabulary

Your behavior here shows you have none.

Y.Porat

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Nov 6, 2009, 3:12:50 AM11/6/09
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some little crooks that are embarrassed by this thread
snipped it from sci.physics
soi will do them a service and bring some of it again
to sci.physics
and here it is
the new crook that poped in here is
Inertial *Fuerbacher in his previous name )

------------------------
quote


On Nov 4, 6:02 am, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>

> news:5492e5d4-259a-441d...@t2g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Nov 3, 9:28 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Nov 3, 6:56 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...@gmail.com> writes:
> >> > >Y.Porat wrote:
> >> > >[...]
> >> > >I have a copy of your book too. I used it to start fires.
>
> >> > It's great for starting fires, isn't it.
>
> >> ------------------
> >> common nasty pigg imbecile
> >> do you understand what is in that book?
>
> >> a pigg like you never informwed me about tthe fact that another
> >> shamless
> >> moron parrot pigg from Hedelberg
> >> sent you my book witrhout my permission
>
> >> with his idiotic remarks on it
> >> you never discused it withme
> >> and an matheamtics imbecile parrot like
> >> you has not the slightest chance to understand it
>
> >> if it so bad
> >> why is it that this book
> >> is distributed*** under the ground*
> >> again and again
> >> to so many people ??!!!
> >> 2
> >> where is your Higgs Boson Mr imbecile crook shameless parrot
> >> dont you think that your fucken books
> >> are better material for burning ??!!
> >> 3
> >> is that response of your nothing but
> >> a nasty attempt to cover your
> >> Piggish moronic behavior against me ??!!
> >> while you are not only Moroney--
> >> you are a nasty crook moron
> >> 4
> >> suppose even that htis book is worth nothing
>
> >> what is your piggish post to do with
> >> the fact that draper is a lier?
> >> is it a nasty attempt to divert the issue
> >> that you like him are thieves and crooks ??!!
> >> Y.P
> >> ------------------------


>
> > now Moroney
>
> > what have you done with my book ??

> > why ddint you tell me that you got it
> > from the Psychopath Feurerbacher !!!
>
> > PEOPLE WHO ARE LIARS IN PERSONAL RELATIONS
> > WILL BE LIARS ABOUT SCIENCE !!!
>
> I've looked into the history of this.

so why dont you say that your real name
is Feuerbacher ???!!

You TOLD him to send his annotated
> copy to Micheal and you'd send a new copy ..
but you didn't send it and then

dirty shameless lier psychopath :
show us that documentation of the new lie (for a change)
that confirms your above new story !!!
--------------


> complained that Michael hadn't received a full copy .. and now you claim
> that Michael got the book without your knowledge at all. You're clearly the
> liar here. You have zero credibility.
----------

lets see (first ) if Moroney will confirm your story
and we will see
how far away -Goebbles pupils can go !!

Y.P
---------------------------

eric gisse

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Y.Porat wrote:
[...]

Your posts are so much more entertaining to read when I imagine a
stereotypical ooolddd jew with a super-nasaly voice narrating them in such
broken English that it'd make a Russian blush.

Y.Porat

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On Nov 8, 5:48 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 12:36 am, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Michael Moroney" <moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:hd4ikf$6vd$1...@pcls6.std.com...
>
> > > "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > >>On Nov 7, 6:25 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
> > >>wrote:
> > >>> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> writes:
> > >>> >-->**WITHOUT MY PERDITION
> > >>> >again
> > >>> >**WITHOUT MY PERDITION**!!!
> > >>> >i never alowed  *and still dont allow***  any  one to send  a copy or
> > >>> >original
> > >>> >to  someone else without my   perdition
>
> > >>> It seems I've gotten a _lot_ of "perdition" from you for being on the
> > >>> receiving end of your stupid book, back then, and now now.
>
> > >>-----------------
> > >>waht are you   mumbling is not clear
> > >>speak directly and simply folowed by examples
>
> > > Look up "perdition" in a dictionary, fool.
>
> > >>and i suggested that you will call me  privately
> > >>to   my E mail in order that  we will arrange
> > >>the shipping of the book to to your address
> > >>so    my question is
> > >>ddi you  responded to   my E mail about
> > >>where to send a new book??
> > >>and as a result got a new one ??
> > >>or you remained only with the copy F sent to you ??
>
> > > I don't remember seeing a request to send me another copy, nor would I
> > > want or need one.  Feuerbacher's comments did not obscure your text.
>
> > Ok .. I'll accept as likely now that porat did not receive information for
> > where to send his book to you.  Though from the google history, he clearly
> > had no intention to send it anyway despite his earlier offer to so.
>
> -------------
> 1 how can you say that i had no intention
> to  send it  to Moroney
> yuddint understand (as usual) why was htat offer tosend him
> another book WITH MY REMARKS !!
> it was because i wanted to show him
> that thelittle  fucker Feurbacher
> could not understand it
> **without my help *
> because all of you come from the
> parroting mathematics school
> and you have not the slightest education
> to understand something that is not
> created in another system of research
> done by a person with skills that you dont have !!
> for instance to
> create and analize a 3D STRUCTURE
> not only qualitatively but quantitatively
>  accompanied my chemistry knowlwdge
> for instance
> why a 3d excat structure of a nuc
> can result a cubic crystal  of say
> the Na Cl crystal
> or why
> the exact 3D structure of the nucs of
> Na and  Carbon
> can   make the  double bond
> and tripple bond of two  Carbon atoms
> and the exact distance between the nucs
> in the double and tripple bond
> while all that fits exactly  my #d structure
> of those nucs and Atoms
> shwin as well that only 4 orbitals take place in that structure
> and all of that by a always
> again allways
>  A CONSTANT LENTH OF THE ELECTRON
> ORBITAL
> ALLOVER THE PERIODIC TABLE AS WELL
> WITH OTHER COMPOUNDS !
> so i wanted to  show the fuckenmoron mathematicians that they are
> pompous
> ignorants
> that got at the end to the
> fucken Boson entity
> that is now breaking the heads i LHC
> and wasting fortunes of money and human resources
> on crackpot  religion science !!
> but who cars while
> all that stupidity
> is nice   income and salary - to so many people  !!
>
> ATB
> Y.Porat
> ------------------------

since the sci.chem was snipped out
i will send it again with the sci,chem included
it is important for me that sci,chem people will see it as well
so
-----------------
here again for the chemists :

> because all of you come from the
> parroting mathematics school
> and you have not the slightest education
> to understand something that is not
> created in another system of research
> done by a person with skills that you dont have !!
> for instance to
> create and analize a 3D STRUCTURE
> not only qualitatively but quantitatively
> accompanied my chemistry knowlwdge
> for instance
> why a 3d excat structure of a nuc
> can result a cubic crystal of say
> the Na Cl crystal
> or why
> the exact 3D structure of the nucs of
> Na and Carbon
> can make the double bond
> and tripple bond of two Carbon atoms
> and the exact distance between the nucs
> in the double and tripple bond
> while all that fits exactly my #d structure
> of those nucs and Atoms
> shwin as well that only 4 orbitals take place in that structure
> and all of that by a always
> again allways
> A CONSTANT one !! LENGTH OF THE ELECTRON
> ORBITAL !!
> ALLOVER THE PERIODIC TABLE AS WELL
> WITH OTHER COMPOUNDS !
> so i wanted to show the fucken moron mathematicians that they are still
> pompous
> ignorants
> that got at the end to the
> fucken Boson entity

> that is now breaking the heads i LHC
> and wasting fortunes of money and human resources
> on crackpot religion science !!
> but who cars while
> all that stupidity
> is nice income and salary - to so many people !!
>-------------------------
end of reminder

ATB
Y.Porat
--------------------

Y.Porat

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typo
while i said
the wrong Boson entity
it should be
The*** Higgs** Boson entity
Y.P
-------------------

Y.Porat

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On Nov 8, 2:25 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6dcf616b-6e87-4e69...@k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

>
>
>
> > On Nov 8, 11:41 am, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
> >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:40f29124-04c6-4d30...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...

>
> >> > On Nov 8, 9:12 am, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
> >> >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >> >>news:3674ec30-20e7-47cb...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> > thank you  inertial for giving me that slight little credit
>
> >> >> I am always honest.
>
> >> >> > now inertial
> >> >> > i have a question to you :
>
> >> >> Fine ... bet its nothing new ...
>
> >> >> > is it possible that there will be  a photon with
> >> >> > the frequency of
>
> >> >> > one billion years per cycle ??
>
> >> >> As expected .. same old question again.  I've answered this many times
> >> >> before.  But once more, because I feel generous ... There is no
> >> >> physics
> >> >> theory I am aware of that gives a reason why there could not be, and
> >> >> no
> >> >> logical reason why not.  So that means is a possibility, unless proven
> >> >> otherwise.  Of course, we'll probably never know, as a photon with
> >> >> that
> >> >> low
> >> >> a frequency would have such low energy that we could probably not ever
> >> >> detect one if it did.  And further, there is no reason why we would
> >> >> need
> >> >> to
> >> >> go looking for such a photon, as there's plenty of other easier to
> >> >> find
> >> >> photons around that we can do useful things with.  So really .. it
> >> >> doesn't
> >> >> make any difference if there is such a photon or not.
> >> > ---------------------
> >> > you still  didnt understand why i asked it
>
> >> I really don't care.  You're mentally unbalanced.
>
> >> > it is not  only just to tease you
>
> >> You failed if that is what you thought you were donig.
>
> >> > it has a much deeper  *serious*   meaning   and better understanding
> >> > of physic
> >> > and if you like
> >> > the physics **system **
>
> >> You don't understand physics
>
> >> > so i will ask another question::
> >> > is it possible that  there    will be a photon
>
> >> > with the frequency of
> >> > **on cycle per  100 Billion years ??**
>
> >> Wow .. what an incredibly different question .. that was sarcasm in case
> >> you
> >> wondered
>
> >> Same answer .. You've done all this before with me several times .. but
> >> then
> >> ,you're senile so you probably don't remember.  You are boring me.  Yawn.
>
> > ------------------
> > Good for you  Feurbacher
>
> You do know that you are wrong about who you think I am .. and not the first
> time.  But then, you can't help but lie and make false allegations .. that's
> what we expect of dishonest people like you.  And you never fail to live
> down to our expectations.
>
> > you made some advance since 6 yeas ago
> > but    not good enough !!
>
> You are no judge of what is 'good enough' .. you're just a senile old fool
> who is deluded in thinking he can understand physics without any education
> or scientific understanding, and realizing his life is nearly over is trying
> to find some purpose for it all by wanting to make 'innovations' but instead
> makes a fool of himself.  Sad .. very sad.
>
> > try better you are on the right way
> > anyway
> > if you can help now PD you are welcome
>
> Eh?

---------------------
i will twll you a sroty about why you donr help PD to restore some
diocumentaion

1
you cant
(actually no one can ...)
2
he next story:

a criminal wa sentenced todeath by the electric chair
so
his prisoners bring him to the chair
but the chap is too fat far too fat to sit in that chair
so
his prisoners tell you
common
you have 3 weeks to pull of 30 KG of your weight
do you understand ??
yes
now after 3weeks they come to sit him on that electric chair but
still the prisoner is far from fitting in..
so the prisoners ask him angrily
why didnt you lost 30 Kg of your weight??!!

he think a while and then say softly

I HAVE A PROBLEM OF MOTIVATION.....

keep well
Y.Porast
----------------

Aleph

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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:28:28 -0800, in the mystical message
76234ee5-b67d-485e...@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com, Y.Porat
wrote:

<snip whining>


> 4
> suppose even that htis book is worth nothing

Which seems to be the case.

What are you charging for it?

> what is your piggish post to do with
> the fact that draper is a lier?
> is it a nasty attempt to divert the issue that you like him are thieves
> and crooks ??!! Y.P

Yawn, more whining..


Aleph

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:54:44 AM11/8/09
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On Friday 06 November 2009 04:52, in <3798d002-
c7a1-41ad-8c4...@d9g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, BURT sat down and
wrote:


>
> Falling things get slower in time.
>

Aww, mitch, were you feeling ignored? Did you need to get your KookOn with
Porat?

Aleph

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:56:42 AM11/8/09
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On Friday 06 November 2009 05:12, in
<4cd32b6a-57b6-40e4...@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat
sat down and wrote:

> On Nov 5, 9:59 pm, david.bostw...@chemistry.gatech.edu (David
> Bostwick) wrote:
>> In article <S8KdnXTRd_V8i27XnZ2dnUVZ8oudn...@brightview.co.uk>,
>> "Cwatters" <colin.wattersNOS...@TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >"Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> >news:1fee88e0-d258-49a1-82d1-
ae4120...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...


>> >> ---------------
>> >>how could i sign a contract
>> >>while i ddint know he has got the book!!
>>
>> >Duh..Not with him. Gosh you are slow.
>>
>> >Sign contracts with everyone you give your book to preventing them
>> >giving their copy to anyone else without your permission.
>>
>> Why would anyone steal this book? I wouldn't even bother reading it.
>
> ----------------
> it seems that you have no idea
> about what you are talking about (:-)

How do you work that out?

> did you ever saw or understood what is in that book ??
>
> Y.P
> -------------

--

Y.Porat

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Nov 8, 2009, 11:04:09 PM11/8/09
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On Nov 8, 10:59 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
wrote:
> Aleph <Usenet....@gishpuppy.com> writes:
> >On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:20:12 -0800, in the mystical message
> >b56e5222-71b3-4442-9f29-c63e1c818...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com, Y.Porat
> >wrote:
> ><snip drivel>
> >Your whining is getting repetitive.
>
> I can't believe Porat is still whining over how I got a copy of his "book"
> some six years ago, or whenever it was.
>
> It was sheer chance I even saw this thread, I saw the title with Porat as
> author and just knew I'd be mentioned.

--------------------
where is now that copy ??

TIA
Y.Porat
-----------------------------

Y.Porat

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Nov 9, 2009, 8:24:34 PM11/9/09
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On Nov 7, 6:25 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
wrote:

> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> writes:
> >-->**WITHOUT MY PERDITION
> >again
> >**WITHOUT MY PERDITION**!!!
> >i never alowed  *and still dont allow***  any  one to send  a copy or
> >original
> >to  someone else without my   perdition
>
> It seems I've gotten a _lot_ of "perdition" from you for being on the
> receiving end of your stupid book, back then, and now now.

---------------------
nasty little crook moron

you still ddint answer my question:

where is now the copy of my book
that you got from
the psychopath Feuerbacher

TIA
Y.Porat
----------------------------

eric gisse

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Nov 9, 2009, 10:30:34 PM11/9/09
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Y.Porat wrote:

Why do you feel it is any of your business, you fucking fruitloop?

>
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ----------------------------

Y.Porat

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:25:05 AM11/10/09
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=========================

just have a look
on the mug of this creature (:-)

http://www.facebook.com/eric.gisse

now i start to understand the disturbed behavior !!

Gisse
a friendly advice:
just erase that mug of yours
as quickly as possible
because if you science and integrity is like
you joke mug
you are not going anywhere -
ps if you can marry a girl
at lease marry your boyfriend !!
Y.P
-----------------------------


eric gisse

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Nov 10, 2009, 7:05:20 AM11/10/09
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Y.Porat wrote:
[...]

>> > where is now the copy of my book
>> > that you got from
>> > the psychopath Feuerbacher
>>
>> Why do you feel it is any of your business, you fucking fruitloop?
> =========================
>
> just have a look
> on the mug of this creature (:-)
>
> http://www.facebook.com/eric.gisse
>
> now i start to understand the disturbed behavior !!

Nothing says 'sinister' like earbuds. Then again I did have Tool on that
ipod.

>
> Gisse
> a friendly advice:
> just erase that mug of yours
> as quickly as possible
> because if you science and integrity is like
> you joke mug
> you are not going anywhere -
> ps if you can marry a girl
> at lease marry your boyfriend !!

That doesn't even make any sense. I know it is an insult but it is so
incoherent that I can't even muster offense. I can see you don't like how I
look, are equally unhappy with a picture of me as not a picture of me, and
ineptly reached for a sexuality slam.

So let's revisit the original question...what business is it of yours what
someone does with their property? Cuz when you send something to someone, it
isn't yours anymore.

> Y.P
> -----------------------------

Y.Porat

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:11:44 AM11/10/09
to

1
we still remember your orrinional
picture on facebook
2
i vever saw
any of the participants of all tose NG
who publish anything in face book
3
if youwhabt to know seriously why i 'land ' on you merciless
it is becuse you have not the slightst eduation
about ethics among people
you say
sort of what is it your bussiness tofind out
what wa done with a copy of orriginal
of my book
first of a;; i can say
wHat is it YOUR FUCKEN BUSINESS??!!
you behave like ashemless animal
not to mentionthat you never has
a copyrighted book so you completely
lack the minimal sensitivity
to human property !!
if MOroney got it as a copyrighted book
a minimal standard of ethics
whould demand
that atleast he would treat it as a property
of someone else !!
he should ask me if i agree to pass it to someone lese
and laterinform me tha the did it !!
got it nasty animal
(iwill save you this time to menstion some
known nasty leader in central Europ
as one of your teachers and moral standards
(actually i find some connection between
your looks and its influence on your behavior )!!

4
if you will get of my back
i will get of yours
i never attack personally
unless someone did it to me first !!
and if fo r instance as the op included some NGs
and even if you just snip it it is a sort of personal offense as
well
you are an animal that has no respect to anything !!not only tome
personally

Y.P
-------------------------

eric gisse

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Nov 10, 2009, 6:31:51 PM11/10/09
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Y.Porat wrote:
[blah blah blah]

> first of a;; i can say
> wHat is it YOUR FUCKEN BUSINESS??!!

It became my business around the time you posted a long whine thread on a
public forum.

Once you send a book out, it isn't yours anymore. Copyright doesn't mean you
can tell people what they can do with it. Doctrine of first sale, and all
that.

[...blah blah blah]

Michael Moroney

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Nov 10, 2009, 8:40:52 PM11/10/09
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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> writes:

>On Nov 7, 6:25 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
>wrote:
>> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> writes:
>> >-->**WITHOUT MY PERDITION
>> >again
>> >**WITHOUT MY PERDITION**!!!
>> >i never alowed *and still dont allow*** any one to send a copy or
>> >original
>> >to someone else without my perdition
>>
>> It seems I've gotten a _lot_ of "perdition" from you for being on the
>> receiving end of your stupid book, back then, and now now.

>---------------------
> nasty little crook moron

>you still ddint answer my question:

but you'll have to admit I did get lots of "perdition" from you...

>where is now the copy of my book
> that you got from
>the psychopath Feuerbacher

I mailed it to another reader of sci.chem/sci.physics who requested it,
so that I won't have to deal with your whining that I have your stupid
book 6 years from now.

And no, I will not identify the recipient, so don't ask. If s/he wishes
to identify him/herself, s/he'll do so him/herself.

Y.Porat

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Nov 11, 2009, 2:46:40 AM11/11/09
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On Nov 11, 3:40 am, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)

wrote:
> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> writes:
> >On Nov 7, 6:25 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
> >wrote:
> >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> writes:
> >> >-->**WITHOUT MY PERDITION
> >> >again
> >> >**WITHOUT MY PERDITION**!!!
> >> >i never alowed  *and still dont allow***  any  one to send  a copy or
> >> >original
> >> >to someone else without my   perdition
>
> >> It seems I've gotten a _lot_ of "perdition" from you for being on the
> >> receiving end of your stupid book, back then, and now now.
> >---------------------
> > nasty little crook moron
> >you   still    ddint answer my question:
>
> but you'll have to admit I did get lots of "perdition" from you...
>
> >where is now the copy of my book
> > that you got from
> >the  psychopath  Feuerbacher
>
> I mailed it to another reader of sci.chem/sci.physics who requested it,
> so that I won't have to deal with your whining that I have your stupid
> book 6 years from now.
> ----------------------------

if it is a stupid book

WHY IS IT SO MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN IT ???!!!!!
----------------------


> And no, I will not identify the recipient, so don't ask.  If s/he wishes
> to identify him/herself, s/he'll do so him/herself.

-----------------------
AND NOW YOU REVEALED YOUSELF AS A DIRTY PIG SHIT !!!

anyone with minimal understanding
of copyrhights and not to speak about
MINIMAL ETHICS !!
WILL UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE A DIRTY ANYMAL GANGSTER!!AND
THIEF
IMBECILE mathematician
!!that cant learn something new
except formulas smeared on a flat paper

AND SO IT YOUR CREDIBILITY ABOUT SCIENCE ,BASIC HUMAN RELATIONS
NOT TO MENTION YOU CREDIBILITY ABOUT EVALUATING ***SCIENCE**
IN SHORT
a little JOSEF GOEBBELS
THAT YOU PROBABLY WAS BORN NOT FAR FROM HIM ----
----COULD BE PROUD OF YOU !!!

2
go fuck yourself to your end of your poor NASTY life
with the Higgs Bosons!!
and alike W and Z bosons
that are 100 times bigger than their mother etc etc

YOU DONT DESERVE MORE THAN THAT!!!
you will be thrown to the garbage of the history of science
together with all your gangster friend gang here !!!

you cant cheat every one- forever !!!
including the readers here


Y.Porat
--------------------------------


Y.Porat

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Nov 11, 2009, 5:20:59 AM11/11/09
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On Nov 11, 11:32 am, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:24e0b8ac-3006-4a66...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> No .. he is perfectly entitled to give the book to anyone he wants and has
> no responsibility to tell you or anyone else who.  And You have no right to
> ask
-------------------
yes indeed
th e Nazi psyhopath pigg
bump parasite
that sits all day next to the computer and could not get a decent day
job--

FEUERBACHER
FROM HEIDELBERG

THAT IS A SHAME TO THAT UNIVERSITY ---

and the pupil of Josef Goebbels

is teaching us now good standard behavior
HOW SCIENTIST AND HUMAN BEING SHOULD BEHAVE

AND SO GOES HIS SCIENCE AS WELL!!

Y.P
--------------------

>
> > AND SO IT YOUR CREDIBILITY ABOUT SCIENCE   ,BASIC HUMAN RELATIONS
> > NOT TO MENTION YOU CREDIBILITY ABOUT  EVALUATING ***SCIENCE**
> > IN SHORT
> > a little JOSEF GOEBBELS
> > THAT   YOU PROBABLY WAS BORN NOT FAR FROM HIM  ----
> > ----COULD BE PROUD OF YOU !!!
>

> eh?


>
> > 2
> > go fuck yourself to your end of your poor  NASTY life
> > with the Higgs Bosons!!
> > and alike  W and Z bosons
> > that are 100 times bigger than their mother etc etc
>
> > YOU DONT DESERVE MORE THAN THAT!!!
> > you will be thrown  to the garbage of the history of science
> > together with all your gangster friend  gang here !!!
>
> > you cant cheat every one- forever !!!
> > including the readers here
>

> You the cheat and the liar with no scientific or moral credibility.  Go fuck
> yourself instead .. noone else would want to

Y.Porat

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Nov 11, 2009, 5:27:59 AM11/11/09
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On Nov 11, 12:20 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 11:32 am, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:24e0b8ac-3006-4a66...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>
> > No .. he is perfectly entitled to give the book to anyone he wants and has
> > no responsibility to tell you or anyone else who.  And You have no right to
> > ask
>
> -------------------
> yes indeed
> th e  Nazi  psyhopath pigg
> bump   parasite
> that sits all day next to the computer and could not get a decent day
> job--
>
> FEUERBACHER
> FROM HEIDELBERG
>
> THAT IS A SHAME TO THAT UNIVERSITY  ---
>
> and the pupil of Josef Goebbels
>
> is teaching us now good standard behavior
> HOW SCIENTIST AND HUMAN BEING SHOULD BEHAVE
>
> AND SO GOES HIS SCIENCE AS WELL!!
>
> Y.P
> --------------------
and as all of you know
Paul Draper
do you think that he as well
will bother himself to get it and read some of it
just for having a good laugh ??!!

Y.Porat
-------------------------------

Aleph

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Nov 11, 2009, 11:47:38 AM11/11/09
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On Tuesday 10 November 2009 01:24, in <d3148457-59b2-417d-9378-

c2b7f0...@f16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote:

> ---------------------
> nasty little crook moron
>
> you still ddint answer my question:
>
> where is now the copy of my book
> that you got from
> the psychopath Feuerbacher
>
> TIA
> Y.Porat

I put this through a bablefish and it came out as:

Blah, whine, rant, whine, rant, whine, whine, demand, sulk.

Seems to be pretty much the same with all Porat's posts.

Aleph

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Nov 11, 2009, 11:50:25 AM11/11/09
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On Tuesday 10 November 2009 07:25, in
<ba94cd54-9004-4555...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat
sat down and wrote:

>
> just have a look
> on the mug of this creature (:-)
>
> http://www.facebook.com/eric.gisse

Stalker.

Porat thinks that by insulting Eric's Facebook pages it enhances the
validity of porat's nonsense.

MONUMENTAL BUCKET OF PHAIL.

> now i start to understand the disturbed behavior !!

No, you dont. Your disturbed behavior ensures you will never understand
others.

> Gisse
> a friendly advice:
> just erase that mug of yours
> as quickly as possible
> because if you science and integrity is like
> you joke mug
> you are not going anywhere -

Ah a combined ad hominem with a false analogy. Well done. You still fail at
science, retard.

> ps if you can marry a girl
> at lease marry your boyfriend !!

Homophobic insults - you are getting more and more like the Nazi you accuse
everyone else of being.

You are a bitter, twisted, idiotic, intolerant dirtbag who isnt fit to clean
keyboards, let alone use them.

Y.Porat

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Nov 11, 2009, 10:18:41 PM11/11/09
to
i asked
why is it that so many people wanted at least
an unauthorized copy of my gook??
so
The little psychopath bump parasite
that sits all say next to the computer said
and refuses to reveal his real name
(and rightly so ...)
he says :

'because he wanted a good laugh ...''

and now after a few days all of us could see
that
**even Paul Draper is still honest enough
in order of ***not to say**

'that he wanted a copy of my book
''JUST TO HAVE A GOOD LAUGH''!!

ATB
Y.Porat
------------------------

Aleph

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Nov 12, 2009, 4:36:12 PM11/12/09
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:18:41 -0800, in the mystical message
6d2283d3-5e99-4c67...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, Y.Porat
wrote:


> 'that he wanted a copy of my book
> ''JUST TO HAVE A GOOD LAUGH''!!

Cant really say I blame him. You are a babbling crazy old fool. Why
should any one bow down to your demands?

Y.Porat

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Nov 12, 2009, 10:40:00 PM11/12/09
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On Nov 12, 11:36 pm, Aleph <Usenet....@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:18:41 -0800, in the mystical message
> 6d2283d3-5e99-4c67-bc9a-006629cba...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, Y.Porat

> wrote:
>
> > 'that he wanted a copy of my book
> >  ''JUST TO HAVE A GOOD LAUGH''!!
>
> Cant really say I blame him. You are a babbling crazy old fool. Why
> should any one bow down to your demands?
>
> --
> Aleph
>
> This message was posted to usenet so please reply that way. Emails to
> this account are very likely to be ignored.

-----------------------


Hi Varney !!
it is not understandable
why you are now the only one who are so bssessed with me

did you got an order from your gangster bosses
to kiss my ass ?? (:-)
dont you have some more important issues THAN

me proving and showing again and again
that you are a psychpath
that does not worth the salary that he gets from his
gangsters boss??
bump parasite gangster ??
2

are you litle fucker that never spoke A SINGLE WORD OF SCIENCE --
so is a psychopath idiot gangster like you in a position to say
ANYTHING about my book ??
3
do you have my book?
so that you are in a position to say anything about it

4

did PD nominated a psychopath imbecile gangster like you
to be his speaker or defender ???
ps
why does a little fucker pigg snip the other
NG from the address
there are only a few gangsters that do it
and still
it want help you
because it is the first thing i check ....
(ihave some experience about hoe to deal with
psychopath moron ignorant gangsters )

Y.P
----------------------

Aleph

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Nov 14, 2009, 10:10:46 AM11/14/09
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:40:00 -0800, in the mystical message
a497565e-86f3-4e53...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com, Y.Porat
wrote:


> Hi Varney !!

Hi Stephen, how are things? Did you ever get back with your boyfriend? I
mean you both made such a wonderful couple and now the law has changed
you can be together. That would be sweet.

> it is not understandable

Very little of what you say is understandable. You are a idiot who spouts
gibberish.

> why you are now the only one who are so bssessed with me

What? I assume I have read it right, and I am really not obsessed with
you. You need to get over your self centred madness.

> did you got an order from your gangster bosses to kiss my ass ?? (:-)

While they are annoying, my bosses are not gangsters. I wish they were,
then they would pay me better.

> dont you have some more important issues THAN
> me proving and showing again and again that you are a psychpath

You dont appear to understand what the word "proving" means, let alone
anything else you have said here.

> that does not worth the salary that he gets from his
> gangsters boss??

I am worth more than my salary. Your attempts at an ad hominem are
pointless.

> bump parasite gangster ??

Is that a question?

> 2
>
> are you litle fucker that never spoke A SINGLE WORD OF SCIENCE

Ironically you wouldnt know if I had. I have no reason to acquiesce to
your pathetic demands to prove myself in a public forum. Your *science*
is comical, so I doubt you have ever spoken a single word of science.

In the past I made the mistake of treating you like a normal person and
debating science with you. I have learned my lesson.

You are a pathetic, vacuous creature who does nothing but insult and
scream when challenged. Your ideas are laughable, and are regularly
laughed at by anyone who reads them, but you are so obsessed with your
own sense of self importance you cant realise this.

> -- so is
> a psychopath idiot gangster like you in a position to say ANYTHING
> about my book ??

Yes.

> 3
> do you have my book?

God, no. Why would I waste decent wood on any crap you can produce.

> so that you are in a position to say anything about it

What is it that I said about your book that you are objecting to?

I suspect you dont even know what I am saying. The voices in your head
probably drown out any external knowledge you might otherwise be at risk
of gaining.

> 4
>
> did PD nominated a psychopath imbecile gangster like you to be his
> speaker or defender ??? ps

No. I have never spoken to PD in my life.

I am, however, fairly impressed with his patience at dealing with USENET
retards and he certainly has shown an understanding of the topic.

As a result, in this public forum, he (like so many others) kicks your
ass so many times I am surprised you can sit down.

> why does a little fucker pigg snip the other NG from the address

How many times do I have to answer this question?

Are you incapable of learning anything new? Oh yeah, scratch that. We
_know_ you are incapable.

Why the fuck should I go out of my way to assist your obsessive cross
posting shitstorm? Seriously, who do you think you are?

> there are only a few gangsters that do it and still
> it want help you

Shut up idiot. Your posts belong in AUK not a science group.

How many times do I have to tell you that I dont care where *you* send
your posts. I have no control over it. I do care if *you* have the
audacity to think that *I* should make an effort to facilitate your
idiocy.

> because it is the first thing i check .... (ihave some experience about
> hoe to deal with psychopath moron ignorant gangsters )

So you are whining here because you are too lazy to be bothered adding
your x-post news groups. Ok.

You think that I should make an effort to save you the effort of sending
things where you want them to go...

You are a retarded selfish shit. You deserve to be the busiest poster to
alt.null, alt.villiage.idiot and AUK. I am sure all three of those groups
hold a lot of your posts.

In short. Get fucked retard boy.

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