Curious if this poem(?) about chemicals is meaningful or gibberish
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I can't tell if the following is nonsense, or if it is meaningful. I
know that there have been cases where information has been recast into
a poem, such as the infamous DeCSS Haiku...but I haven't found anything
suggesting what this chemistry-based poem is describing. Can anyone
who knows more about the subject than I do tell me where this has come
from or what it is saying?
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O hydrogen bonds, forming a three-dimensional framework.
The CuII atom displays a distorted octahedral coordination with axial
elongation.
The NiII atom is in a distorted octahedral geometry.
The solvent water molecule lies on a twofold rotation axis and forms
hydrogen bonds to two perchlorate anions.
O hydrogen bonds, forming a three-dimensional network. Hydrogen-bonding
interactions between the cation, anion and water molecules result in a
three-dimensional supramolecular network structure. The two Ni atoms
are bridged by two phenolate O atoms of the macrocycle with an Ni.
The water-coordinated YbIII atom completes a nine-coordination mode via
seven O atoms from four carboxylate ligands, in a monocapped square
antiprism. In the crystal structure, adjacent molecules are linked by
Ni.
These are further aggregated to form a three-dimensional supramolecular
structure via hydrogen bonding to chains of corner-sharing tetrameric
and chair-like hexameric water clusters. The CoIII complex and the
nitrate anion possess crystallographic twofold rotation axis symmetry.
O hydrogen bonds complete the structure. The tridentate BIPI ligand is
essentially planar. The complex sits on a centre of symmetry. An ideal
three-dimensional framework is formed by the flexible phenoxyacetate
ligands via intramolecular hydrogen-bond interactions.
The molecule is centrosymmetric.
The two Ni atoms are bridged by two phenolate O atoms of the macrocycle
with an Ni. The Ni atom lies on a centre of symmetry.
The tetrahedral Zn atom is coordinated by one imine N and one phenolate
O atoms of the Schiff base ligand and by two chloride anions. The CoIII
complex and the nitrate anion possess crystallographic twofold rotation
axis symmetry.
The four coordinated water molecules and the hydroxyl atoms from the
ligand form intermolecular hydrogen bonds, resulting in a
three-dimensional supramolecular network.
O hydrogen bonds, forming a three-dimensional framework.
In the crystal structure, adjacent molecules are linked by Ni.
The CuII atom displays a distorted octahedral coordination with axial
elongation. The O atoms of six DMSO molecules are bonded to the MnII
ion in a distorted octahedral geometry. The Ni atom lies on a centre of
symmetry and the water O atom lies on a twofold rotation axis. The
tridentate BIPI ligand is essentially planar.
O hydrogen bonds helps to consolidate the crystal packing. In the
complex, the perchlorate anion acts as a counter-ion to balance the
charge. The unique ZnII atom is in a distorted tetrahedral coordination
environment.
The NiII atom is in a distorted octahedral geometry.
The CuII ion assumes a distorted square-pyramidal coordination
geometry.
The molecule is centrosymmetric.
A non-coordinated water molecule completes the structure.
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Thank you for any insight you might provide...I could probably figure
some of this out myself, but if it makes any sense at all then I'm sure
someone with a solid chemistry background can just look at it and tell.
Best wishes,
S. R. H.
Tom Anderson
> Hello sci.chemists...
>
> I can't tell if the following is nonsense, or if it is meaningful.
Sounds like crystallography to me, so the former :).
Specifically, it looks like a remix or summary of abstracts from Structure
Reports Online:
http://journals.iucr.org/e/rss10.xml
Or similar.
Whether it's data, corrupt data, a code, poetry, or pure nonsense, i can't
say. Bear in mind that most science is a mix of those elements in varying
proportions!
tom
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> Specifically, it looks like a remix or summary of abstracts from Structure
> Reports Online:
>
> http://journals.iucr.org/e/rss10.xml
>
> Or similar.
Hi Tom,
Yes, I did find a few of the sentences word-for-word using search
engines...but only a couple in order...which makes this look like a
"remix" as you suggest. I was hard-pressed to decide what (besides a
human agent) would have been able to extract the purely structural bits
of these abstracts and string them together. They didn't seem to be
stylized enough, and I'd expect a normal english sentence thrown in
there somewhere.
But maybe it could be produced by an automated process, a la Markov
chaining, which was looking for similarities between sentences:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociated_press
> Whether it's data, corrupt data, a code, poetry, or pure nonsense, i can't
> say. Bear in mind that most science is a mix of those elements in varying
> proportions!
Now there's a cynical viewpoint, though I share it! One thing I
thought was that maybe it "spells" something if you turn it into a list
of known crystals. Something parallel to SIERRA CHARLIE INDIA *
CHARLIE HOTEL ECHO MIKE, perhaps. :)
It came in a spam email to a couple of my accounts, and was
sufficiently outlandish to pique my curiosity. Especially since I'm
writing a screenplay about a chemist who encounters a scenario
something like in "Contact"--but instead of plans for a machine from
space, they get a chemical formula out of the lyrics of a CD. Eerie
coincidence!
Tom Anderson
> Tom Anderson wrote:
>
>> Specifically, it looks like a remix or summary of abstracts from Structure
>> Reports Online:
>
> Yes, I did find a few of the sentences word-for-word using search
> engines...but only a couple in order...which makes this look like a
> "remix" as you suggest. I was hard-pressed to decide what (besides a
> human agent) would have been able to extract the purely structural bits
> of these abstracts and string them together.
Good question. There may be some database or something that just has
structural descriptions in. Or perhaps it's based on a fairly small input
text that happened to only have structural descriptions.
> But maybe it could be produced by an automated process, a la Markov
> chaining, which was looking for similarities between sentences:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociated_press
Very likely.
> One thing I thought was that maybe it "spells" something if you turn it
> into a list of known crystals. Something parallel to SIERRA CHARLIE
> INDIA * CHARLIE HOTEL ECHO MIKE, perhaps. :)
>
> It came in a spam email to a couple of my accounts, and was sufficiently
> outlandish to pique my curiosity.
Aaah. I'm not sure where those guys get that stuff from; text on the web,
of course, but it usually seems like it's been mangled in some way, i
suppose so each copy is different.
I had a good one recently - the question "does god need a hat?" - which
turns out to be from Tropic of Capricorn (thanks, Russian literature
pirates!).
Anyway, i think it highly unlikely that there's a concealed message -
although it would certainly be fascinating and wonderful if there was;
why? A spammer with a plan? A demented AI? An electronic "help, i'm
trapped in a fortune cookie factory!"? There's the makings of a magic
realist cyberpunk novel in here somewhere ...
> Especially since I'm writing a screenplay about a chemist who encounters
> a scenario something like in "Contact"--but instead of plans for a
> machine from space, they get a chemical formula out of the lyrics of a
> CD. Eerie coincidence!
I had an idea a while ago for a story in which patterns suddenly start
showing up in lottery numbers, but then i realised it was a bit like the
patterns in pi at the end of Contact (the book; haven't seen the film).
Less cosmic, though - Carl Sagan thought bigger than i do!
tom
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an advanced inorganic course (I know because I took advanced inorganic
last year).
It is describing the geometry of coordination complexes of various
transition metals.
-Pat