On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 6:15:32 PM UTC-5, John Harshman wrote:
> On 12/19/23 2:52 PM, Peter Nyikos wrote:
> > Live Science short video, a bit under 2 minutes
> >
> >
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/iceland-comes-from-greenland/vi-AA1lE1Fe
> >
> > The gist of it is a hypothesis [1] that Greenland passed over a hotspot
> > between 80 and 40 million years ago, and after it emerged, Iceland was built
> > above the hotspot, where it stands today.
> >
> > [1] not identified as such, but treated as a discovery.
> >
> > Title: Iceland Comes From Greenland?
> >
> > Scientists learn to better understand the movement of Greenland, as it was slowly pushed over the hotspot that is now located under neighboring Iceland.
> > Nothing stands still over geologic time, and even the biggest land masses are constantly being reshaped by Earth.
> > Credit: Goddard Space Flight Center and Dan Gallagher, Jefferson Beck, Ernie Wrigh
> >
> > [end of blurb for the video]
> >
> > A really neat feature is that, while pausing the video, you can
> > move along the track of the video at your own pace,
> > and watch the conjectured path that Greenland took during those forty million years.
> >
> > The hotspot seems to trace a path from the north end of Greenland to almost its south end.
> Well, you mean that Greenland seems to trace a path over the hot spot.
No, in this case, "seems to trace" means "gives the illusion of tracing."
In the video, Greenland seems to rotate a bit in place while everything else is in motion.
Of course, you gave the proper scientific description of the events.
See, John, this is the way mature adults carry on discussions. Ordinary language
is full of ambiguities, and there is no need to dwell on the ones
that are easily clarified like this one was.
> It seems as if the mid-Atlantic ridge also must move a bit west in this
> scenario, so that Greenland's movement is a combination of its spreading
> from the ridge and motion of the ridge.
It isn't clear from anything I've read so far whether Greenland is
spreading from the ridge or merely carried along by the spreading,
the way the whole of North America and Europe are carried along.
Iceland certainly is spreading from it.
> I wonder if Iceland and the
> ridge will eventually move off the hot spot, leaving it to sink while
> the hot spot gives rise to an island chain resembling Hawaii.
I've given this matter a lot of thought these last two days,
spurred on by the following questions.
Is it just a coincidence that the hotspot is right in the middle of the
mid-Atlantic ridge? or that Iceland is bisected by the ridge? or
that the rift valley separating the two halves of the ridge is a prominent
Icelandic (mostly above-ground) feature?
My answer to all three questions is "obviously not." My hypothesis
is that the hotspot, and Iceland, will continue to have this intimate relationship
with the ridge and that Iceland will continue to grow.
If the Atlantic will continue to grow at the expense of the Pacific
for another 150 million years, a whole new (but small) continent
will develop from Iceland. Already it has a substantial
continental shelf that easily triples its area, and covers the ridge
beyond what is readily visible from the air.
I'm really looking forward to a detailed article, or at least a substantial
research announcement, of how all this fits together with Greenland's
having passed over the hotspot while the ridge was forming.
Why, of all places, does the mid-Atlantic ridge have this big bulge,
right near its northern end? Other places where the ridge sticks
above the surface are either tiny (like Tristan da Cunha) or a
bunch of scattered islands like the Azores.
Peter Nyikos
Professor, Dept. of Mathematics -- standard disclaimer--
Univ. of South Carolina at Columbia
http://people.math.sc.edu/nyikos