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1. Cornell University/University of New Hampshire-shares a joint marine lab
called Shoals Marine Lab.
2. University of Washington, under the dept. of zoology, Friday Harbor Marine
Labs in the San Juan Islands, WA. A top notch lab.
3. Virginia Institute of Marine Science(called VIMS).
4. SUNY, Stonybrook
5. Northeastern University(in Boston). Has a small lab up north of Boston.
6. University of Maryland
7. University of Southern California, has a lab on Catalina Island.
8. University of Miami, good marine lab.
9. Duke University has an excellent marine lab as well. Duke University Marine
Lab on Pivers Island, NC.
10. UC Davis has a program in marine science.
11. UC Santa Barbara has a good program.
12. Oregon State Univesity
13. University of Oregon
14. Western Washington University in Bellingham, WA has a small marine lab
in Anacortes, WA.
15. University of Hawaii.
16. University of Rhode Island.
Also most coastal and non-coastal schools have interdisciplinary programs
in marine biology where you can design your own program. The best way is to
inquire for brochures, check their websites, or actually visit the schools if
you can.
Good Luck,
Walter Rhee
Do not expect to be rich or live on an above average income after graduation.
People in marine biology professions are there for the love of the ocean, not
the money.
Institute for marine and Coastal Sciences
www.marine.rutgers.edu
A small list:
MIT (Woods Hole)
Scripps Institute (UCSD)
USF
Duke
U of Florida (Rosenstiel School)
Rutgers
North Carolina at Wilmington
Nova
Texas A&M
U Delaware
William & Mary (VIMS)
Kutztown U. of PA
Washington
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"Once you have
ruled all of the possibilities, the truth, however improbable, must be
what's left"
Good Luck,
Walter Rhee
Disclaimer:I am an alum so my opinion is biased
Hans
-Your interpretation, I never implied nor said that "fish people would
apparently do it for nothing." Post my original quote.
The
>fact is that most other professional people love their job but
>get paid high salaries for it.. Dont you think there's something
>wrong here. About time fish boys and girls made a stand dont
>you think?!
>regards
>Andrew
>
>
You are right, there is something wrong with it. Most of my colleagues switched
careers. As for me, I am about to do the same. I would like my family to have a
comfortable life and not suffer through my love for marine biology.
Walter Rhee
I've only just begun a BS degree in Marine Biology here in the UK, which is
more specialised around Biotechnology, Diving and Ecology than most others I
have seen. Is this the right route?
Liam
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It is a lot easier to be flexible with non-specialization into other fields
than
specialist in one. If in marine biology, do take basic courses as a pre-med
would do. Calculus, Physics, Chemistry(Organic and beyond helps), and Biology
courses.
What I am trying to say is, it is OK to specialize, but do have the capability
of understanding other fields too. Because they are all interrelated.
In regards to how you should go about planning to BS degree in marine biology,
ask several(5-10)professors and make your own judgment.
Yes, beginning pay is $25K for bachelors
and usually plateaus around 45K after 10-13 years in the U. S. government(MS,
PhDs.) But you do have 2/3 of your pay paid to you until death after you
retire.
Bachelor's in the commercial sector begin with 35 to 42K in the first year if
you can find a job working with marine biology. The drawback is, commercial
sector jobs are not quite secure as government jobs.
A lot of people I knew began in the commercial sector then switched over to the
government.
Cheers,
Walter Rhee, "The Seafood Advisor"
I'm doing Statistics, Organic/Physical/Inorganic Chemistry and Environmental
biology right now, although I only have a choice in choosing Stats OR
Physics. Next year, I was recommended to drop the chemistry courses in
order to take on new Ecology modules designed for Marine Biology.
> What I am trying to say is, it is OK to specialize, but do have the
capability
> of understanding other fields too. Because they are all interrelated.
I'm beginning to see that as I look ahead at my course work.
> Yes, beginning pay is $25K for bachelors
> and usually plateaus around 45K after 10-13 years in the U. S.
government(MS,
> PhDs.) But you do have 2/3 of your pay paid to you until death after you
> retire.
The main point I was trying to make was how could a Biologist make more than
a Marien Biologist? Surely they should at least be equal! Or does the
specificness (don't know if that is a word) of Marine Biology reduce the
amount one earns.
> Bachelor's in the commercial sector begin with 35 to 42K in the first year
if
> you can find a job working with marine biology. The drawback is,
commercial
> sector jobs are not quite secure as government jobs.
>
> A lot of people I knew began in the commercial sector then switched over
to the
> government.
I'll probably be looking for a job here in the UK, but am faced with the two
problems most face:
A) I'll not have enough experience when I finish my course
B) Most research firms are looking for Masters Degrees as a base point. (I'm
still not sure whether I could still afford to do a Masters by the end of my
current course!)
> Cheers,
>
> Walter Rhee, "The Seafood Advisor"
Thanks for the help, Walter!
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Biologist = general, more jobs.
Marine biologist = not more general, less jobs. It should have higher wages for
being a rare job. But because of rarity, competition is high, and people who
want the job & experience will take it in spite of lower wages than a
biologist. Of course the employer takes advantage with the "threat". There is a
waiting list for people who want this job...
Cheers,
Walter Rhee
I think it's because the average biologist jobs include techs in pharmacy,
biotechnology jobs and positions which fringe on high paying inductries in the
medical field. Marine biology is a specialized aspect of biology, whic doesn't
have the funding of the biotechnology and medical fields.
As for someones comment about commercial jobs being less predictable, it seems
to me that the federal service can be just as volatile due to budget cuts.
However, once in the federal service, it is probably easier to move around than
if you were to get laid off or fired from a private sector job.
Your approaches for your education seem sound, but I am puzzled by the diving
part. I know of maybe one person I know who is a marine biologist (fisheries
biologist with the NMFS, actually) and actually uses her diving skills. I think
you are better off these days knowing something about remote sensing or field
techniques, since not much is done via scuba. Knowing biostatistics and a bit
about computer modeling always seems to be the key for some people I know.
Mark