Sincerely, thank God that the evildoers who own and control
the Empire (whose World HQ is in Washington, D.C. which is
the prophesied city seven-hilled--as everybody has figured
out by now; and her U.S. Military, police, courts, prisons,
as many who live by the sword, and lead into captivity, is
the invincible beast she rides), thank God they perpetrate
and have perpetrated such atrocious and monstrous scandals
as to take the karma off the backs of the slave-class, the
poor and persecuted, and thereby taking it upon themselves
unto the third and fourth generation, incarnation, you see.
For if she and her henchmen (soldiers all, as many who are
paid to enforce her Rabid will) weren't so busy conquering,
subduing, brainwashing, reeducating, enslaving, torturing,
imprisoning and murdering, destroying, then nature Herself
would be busier taking up the slack. Because where sinners-
incarnate are karmically marked to be victims of their own
crimes, sins against God which they previously perpetrated
(in sinful lives which the majority of them have forgotten,
being oblivious to the fact that they were born alive here
in the lake of Fire, where the malefactions of malefactors
are temporized, and by karmic transactions indebtedness to
the Holy Spirit--the third part for evildoers--is incurred,
and their works do follow them, what men do in life echoes
in eternity thus their sins do eventually find them out in
time), there are always Antichrists motivated in the third
part, to pick the mark and take the karma off their victim
(subjective; whereas the prophet's motivation is objective,
one sole conscientious observer unbiased, not mentalist or
futurist, not diviner, thus seeing heaven and seeing earth
in Crystalline clarity ergo hearing the testimony of Jesus).
IOW, as tempting as it is at this very late date in history
to hate the U.S. Government & Co. and root for the underdog,
the poor & downtrodden, as many victims of their atrocities,
approaching the end of the world, practice heaven, practice
the heavens being eternally about, IOVIS within and without,
practice the Light, practice being in the Light i.e. in the
bosom of our heavenly father. By keeping your soul occupied
in this way, in truth, in the Light, you can leave the hate
to others so dismally inclined, so inspired by Zeus to hate
the whore and pray for her Desolation which is foreordained,
thus making the temptation that much more tempting, knowing
that the global Extermination, De-Atheization, of the world
is a foregone conclusion--and this is much sooner than they
think. The best thing to do is "Turn On, Tune In, Drop Out",
turn on to Jesus, tune in to Heaven, and drop out, "unplug",
from the Matrix of illusion and self-delusion. Let Atheists
and their Atheistic Empire go the way of Sodom and Gomorrah,
hellfire and brimstone, nuclear, biological, natural, death
which is but change to the deathless soul, as they discover
for better and for worse, for the rich much worse than Hell.
You see, there is no reason to hate the evildoers. They get
their just reward soon enough, each one precisely according
to their works of good and works of evil. It's why they are
in power, to work off everyone else's bad karma. That's how
it's always been here in living Hell where evildoers always
prosper and good-doers always fail, and at no time in world
history has this been more true than now, at the end of the
world, seeing that the U.S. Government has lost all support
from the poor and are now only barely supported by the rich,
since the super-rich keep getting super-richer, whereas the
semi-rich, piddly multimillionaires etc. are getting poorer.
That's why she is sending negotiators around the Empire, to
make as many more offers which her subordinate kings of the
earth can't refuse (always to buy them off or kill them off,
politics, business, crime, as usual), because she is losing
her oil, her infrastructure, ergo her stranglehold over the
world, even over her own people, most of whom hate her guts!
E.g., in the months following "9/11" (Bush's Reichstag Fire)
American flags could be seen everywhere. But have you looked
lately? The American flag has become the symbol of cupidity,
and only the die-hard Fascists, and senior citizens too old
to care, continue to display it. It's the symbol of Atheism,
Fascism, Anti-Christism. So if you're looking for something
to hate, hate what the American flag symbolizes, *Atheism*,
Darwinism, Nazism, Americanism, Capitalism, altogether the
religion of the Rabid enemy of Jesus Christ & his Ecclesia,
the religion of the holocaust, the religion of the Atheist.
Armageddon Cometh,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/
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> Daniel Joseph Min
[snip rest of crap]
Hey MINimal, if you shoot John Hinckley will Benny 16 fall in love
with you? God's rottweiler has a stiffie for hairless Asian boys.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
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>Sincerely, thank God that...
...Danny Min has an IQ of 50, or he might be a hazard
instead of a whining annoyance.
<snip MinCrap>
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
> ...Danny Min has an IQ of 50, or he might be a hazard
> instead of a whining annoyance.
And there I was thinking that he is attempting to raise his IQ all the
way up to the high single digits
Funny, I was thinking that it's the gullible people who don't realize
he's just yanking their chains for the attention he gets from them that
have the IQs of 50...
Not only that, but anybody with an IQ over 30 knows how to use their
kill file.
No, when Danny plays chess against a cabbage he nearly
always wins.
>Bob Casanova wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:26:28 +0200, the following appeared
>> in sci.skeptic, posted by
>> mixm...@gpftor3.privacyfoundation.de (Anonymous Remailer):
>>
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>>> Sincerely, thank God that...
>>
>> ...Danny Min has an IQ of 50, or he might be a hazard
>> instead of a whining annoyance.
>
>Funny, I was thinking that it's the gullible people who don't realize
>he's just yanking their chains for the attention he gets from them that
>have the IQs of 50...
Danny's no troll; he's a gen-yoo-whine (emphasis on "whine")
whacko with a *long* Usenet history. See...
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/
...for an indicator. He's a perfect example of why it's so
difficult to distinguish trolls from serious loons, but the
evidence in his case favors "loon".
>Not only that, but anybody with an IQ over 30 knows how to use their
>kill file.
...but doesn't necessarily choose to.
Actually the only reason that he has the cabbage is he wants to get
ahead
After taking a brief look at that 225-page .pdf atrocity of Min's, I have to
wonder why he's not already institutionalized...
--
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NEXT GAME: The 2008-09 season opener in early October
Of course he's a troll. You just can't spot the difference. Netloons
are easy to spot. They are delusional. They believe they alone have
some "answer" to share with the world that nobody else can see. Nothing
will shake them in their belief. The behavior is to cling stubbornly to
some simple irrational belief. For examples see Gerald Kelleher (oriel)
or Brad Guth.
A troll just says any wild thing he can think of to get a reaction. He
says different things to different audiences. A troll will change
tactics in order to keep getting a reaction rather than cling to some
message. Hell, I remember when Min was a Bushee. Now he says
Republicans are working for Satan (or some such).
Of course, I wouldn't know any of this if it weren't for the idiots who
can't help themselves from responding to him, defeating untold thousands
of kill files in the process.
Min may technically be mentally ill, but we have no way of knowing that
for sure. It is usenet behavior that determines the distinction between
a netloon and a troll. Like any other astrologer he's really just a con
man and getting a reaction on usenet is his usenet con. If you think he
truly believes any of his ever-evolving crap, then you have been trolled
sir.
The really painful thing about trolls or loons is the behavior they
bring about in the so-called "normal" people. Regardless if they are a
loon or troll, they can't help themselves. What is much more pathetic
is someone trying to claim victory in a logical argument with one of
them. What's *their* excuse? I know several people who routinely kill
file anyone who responds directly to one of them. Ask them who they
think is worse and you will get a quick answer.
A good rule of thumb: a guy who wants to show how smart he is should be
picking an argument with someone who isn't a basket case.
Those who decry those responding to trolls and "net loons" would no
doubt approve of keeping quiet about Hitler, corruption, genocide,
global poverty and hunger, drugs, Aids, wife beating, the churches,
racism, the treatment of aboriginal children and paedophilia. If you
cannot cope with responses to trolls why don't you kill file
yourselves from s.a.a and save us from having to listen to your
endless whining? The exchange of information and ribaldry are equal
bedfellows in all but the most obscene examples of human control
systems. Usually reserved for the most extreme forms of religious,
social and political abuse of other's human rights.
The right to freedom of speech is hanging by a thread in many
countries of our world including the West. That right is usually
further curtailed by American monopolies who always place profit above
the murder, torture and long jail terms for countless, brave, whistle
blowers. Yet oddly, these same firms are quite unable to curb real
abuse. Ironic indeed that the internet brought global contact and
freedoms for communication never enjoyed before. Only to have the
whiners descend from their high moral ground to limit that freedom to
those few whom they see fit to practice the priceless gift of
communication.
Perhaps it is kill files which should be banned? Then we'd all have to
face the stark realities and difficult choices facing the human race
at the start of the 21st century.
Life is very hard for billions of our fellow men, women and children.
It is getting harder by the day for many more and promises to get much
worse. The slight inconvenience of having to read a troll's nonsense
secondhand suggests you might be better off simply ignoring them. You
know who they are. Avert your eyes if they offend your delicate
sensibilities in your carefree little world.
Lettuce pray...
But that's the wonderful thing about the computer access and
Usenet - there's absolutely no reason to assume he *isn't*
already institutionalized.
>Bob Casanova wrote:
>> Danny's no troll; he's a gen-yoo-whine (emphasis on "whine")
>> whacko with a *long* Usenet history. See...
>
>Of course he's a troll.
I beg to differ; he's a loon.
> You just can't spot the difference.
I believe I made the point (in the part of my post you
snipped unmarked) that it can be difficult to distinguish
trolls from loons, along with a link to Min's webpage
showing just how much of a loon he is. Trolls don't
generally set up elaborate websites; loons do. Danny is a
loon.
> Netloons
>are easy to spot. They are delusional. They believe they alone have
>some "answer" to share with the world that nobody else can see. Nothing
>will shake them in their belief. The behavior is to cling stubbornly to
>some simple irrational belief. For examples see Gerald Kelleher (oriel)
>or Brad Guth.
...or Danny Min, who meets this description quite well.
>A troll just says any wild thing he can think of to get a reaction. He
>says different things to different audiences. A troll will change
>tactics in order to keep getting a reaction rather than cling to some
>message. Hell, I remember when Min was a Bushee. Now he says
>Republicans are working for Satan (or some such).
Like most loons, while his "darlings" may change over time,
his basic ideas are firmly held and constant. He's a loon.
>Of course, I wouldn't know any of this if it weren't for the idiots who
>can't help themselves from responding to him, defeating untold thousands
>of kill files in the process.
>
>Min may technically be mentally ill, but we have no way of knowing that
>for sure. It is usenet behavior that determines the distinction between
>a netloon and a troll. Like any other astrologer he's really just a con
>man and getting a reaction on usenet is his usenet con. If you think he
>truly believes any of his ever-evolving crap, then you have been trolled
>sir.
Again, I disagree. And since my opinion is worth exactly as
much as yours on this subject, I believe that's all we have
to say about it.
>The really painful thing about trolls or loons is the behavior they
>bring about in the so-called "normal" people. Regardless if they are a
>loon or troll, they can't help themselves. What is much more pathetic
>is someone trying to claim victory in a logical argument with one of
>them. What's *their* excuse? I know several people who routinely kill
>file anyone who responds directly to one of them. Ask them who they
>think is worse and you will get a quick answer.
>
>A good rule of thumb: a guy who wants to show how smart he is should be
>picking an argument with someone who isn't a basket case.
Congratulations on taking your own advice; few do.
Unfortunately, stating an unsupported opinion doesn't really
equate to "showing how smart" one is. Again, you believe
Danny is a troll, but provide no evidence (other than a
recent disillusionment with the GOP, which really says
nothing) supporting that belief. I believe Danny is a loon,
and offer his website (and long-term general wackiness on
Usenet) as evidence. I seem to be ahead on points.
Ohh god..that is so polite.
The guy or whatever is totally mad. But the problem is,
Min is exposing the alter ego. The guy is probably that
well mannered "family man" next door or your work mate in the office
next to you, or your kids grade 10 math teacher...until he gets on a
computer that is.
Freedom of speech is a razor sharp, double-edged sword. It can be used
wisely. Or the converse.
http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/the-numbers-count-mental-disorders-in-america.shtml
Aren't we fortunate that "they" represent no direct danger to us while
"we" are at our keyboards? A degree of anonymity online can nicely
loosen the inhibitions of those lacking a cast iron belief in
themselves.Total anonymity however can loosen the "devils" within. Few
of us have the balls to stand in front of a crowd the size of our
total online readership over time. The ability to address the world
without engaging the flight or flight pilot is a strange new
experience for a great many. I doubt that many forum posters, bloggers
and website authors consider their audience with the same serious
concern as they would, of necessity, in "real life". Most of us have
never had to speak to more than half a dozen people at any one time
unless they were our own family. A hesitation or a mispronounced word
in public can gnaw at the child within. Even break or make a career.
We set incredibly high standards for those we listen to.
Scribbling online may well prove a lack of talent. Nor offer anything
much to grab the attention of others. Remember that this is completely
new territory for all of us.There has never been any easy way for our
thoughts to be expressed except in a very private diary. This has all
changed with access to the Internet. It is a fascinating area of
discovery of oneself and the reaction of others to this virtual
persona for most of us. A vast psychological experiment with all of us
acting as more or less willing guinea pigs. I'd be very surprised if
many of us don't exhibit multiple personalities at the keyboard
depending greatly on our chosen audience. Those who berate the trolls
should consider instead the freedoms offered by such threads within
the normally rather stiff behavioural framework of a forum.
The human race is the sum of all of its parts. Until very recently
only the rich and powerful, or the gifted, had any voice at all.
Exclusion rather than inclusion has been the order of the day for our
entire history. Be very careful what you wish for. Min and Oriel are
merely another facet of our strange new world. Dropping the rough cut
stone of the internet into a black bag now will never allow it to
emerge again in all its strangeness and wondrous beauty. No nmatter
how the powerful shape and fashion it to their own ends of rigid
conformity. The powers-that-be would dearly love to limit our
dangerous new freedoms. Note how the many dictators of our world fear
it above all else. People have discovered that they can actually
organise themselves online. Well outside the bent rules of politics
and corrupt laws and religious intolerance.
So learn to tolerate the trolls for what they are. Loon or teaser
alike. They are just a few more stamps on your passport to freedoms
you have never enjoyed since man lifted himself from all fours. Then
handed his soul, his will, his freedom, his voice, his thoughts, his
spirituality and often his life to the biggest male in the pack.
Obviously this would seem to apply to the vast majority of online
newsgroup users as they tend to get really loose dirty and insulting
on a great
many of these "debates" or whatever they are (I use the term "debate"
veyr, very
loosely).
> > I beg to differ; he's a loon.
>
> Ohh god..that is so polite.
>
> The guy or whatever is totally mad. But the problem is,
> Min is exposing the alter ego. The guy is probably that
> well mannered "family man" next door or your work mate in the office
> next to you, or your kids grade 10 math teacher...until he gets on a
> computer that is.
Freedom of speech is a razor sharp, double-edged sword. It can be used
wisely. Or the converse.
http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/the-numbers-count-mental-disorders-in-america.shtml
Aren't we fortunate that "they" represent no direct danger to us while
"we" are at our keyboards? A degree of anonymity online can nicely
loosen the inhibitions of those lacking a cast iron belief in
themselves.Total anonymity however can loosen the "devils" within. Few
of us have the balls to stand in front of a crowd the size of our
total online readership over time. The ability to address the world
without engaging the flight or flight pilot is a strange new....
Oh look, it appears someone in my kill file made a rant.
--
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To reply take out your eye
Well Greg if you are in life the way you are in here, it's a wonder
anyone has anything to do wit you Mr. Curmudgeon.
You get a few points for wit, so I'll attempt to be kind.
> Unfortunately, stating an unsupported opinion doesn't really
> equate to "showing how smart" one is.
Nice job of ducking to avoid the context, although since it's basically
an evasion you lose points for it. Let us recall that I wasn't the one
insulting your "loon" in an apparent attempt to show how smart he is.
> Again, you believe
> Danny is a troll, but provide no evidence (other than a
> recent disillusionment with the GOP, which really says
> nothing) supporting that belief. I believe Danny is a loon,
> and offer his website (and long-term general wackiness on
> Usenet) as evidence. I seem to be ahead on points.
The "evidence" you have dismissed was but one example. I agree that
this is a matter of opinion. But you should know that I have been
reading usenet for some 18 years, long before Min came on the scene. I
have the dubious honor of having read parts of his nonsense for more
years than I would like to recount. I also have a certain fascination
with the fringe because they provide interesting and compelling examples
of what science is at its heart and help being into clarity the reasons
why the scientific method is the most important idea our species has
ever conceived.
It may be just an opinion, and I won't bother to provide further
"evidence," but it is an informed one. It seems that both the trolls
and loons have one thing in common: they post to usenet for the
attention. The primary difference is that the trolls don't really
believe most of what they spout. It is my opinion that Min does not
truly believe most of his nonsense.
But more to my point: to me the loons and loon-trolls like Min are like
piles of dung. By themselves they are of little consequence. All one
needs to do is avoid stepping in them. Unfortunately it is the many
flies they draw that provide most of the annoyance.
I'm a curmudgeon because I made fun of some nut, whom I kill-filed long
ago, because he posted a long tangential rant? I think you need a
dictionary.
>
>"Bob Casanova" <nos...@buzz.off> wrote in message
>news:0n5f8414hjig5gre3...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:27:15 -0600, the following appeared
>> in sci.skeptic, posted by Greg Crinklaw
>> <theskyhou...@yahoo.com>:
>>
>>>Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>> Danny's no troll; he's a gen-yoo-whine (emphasis on "whine")
>>>> whacko with a *long* Usenet history. See...
>>>
>>>Of course he's a troll.
>>
>> I beg to differ; he's a loon.
>
>Ohh god..that is so polite.
I usually try to leave the ranting to the whackos of all
persuasions.
>The guy or whatever is totally mad. But the problem is,
>Min is exposing the alter ego. The guy is probably that
>well mannered "family man" next door or your work mate in the office
>next to you, or your kids grade 10 math teacher...until he gets on a
>computer that is.
Could be; Usenet seems to bring out the worst in some like
Danny.
<snip>
>...It is my opinion that Min does not
>truly believe most of his nonsense.
You're entitled to your opinion, even when it's incorrect.
<snip>
Rant?
Moi?
Vapid hypocrite!