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Koobee Wublee

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Jan 22, 2013, 2:20:25 AM1/22/13
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On Jan 21, 5:35 pm, black head <larryhar...@softhome.net> wrote:
> On Jan 17, 6:12 am, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote:
>
> > This is an article from six years back, so many have probably read it
> > already. Still, I had not come across it, and it may be of interest to some.
>
> >http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/1162
>
> Says it all really about these Einstein bashers: "But there is a
> pattern," he says. "They're always male — never female. Normally
> professionals of some kind, doctors, pilots, engineers. And they're
> always retired and have years to spend on their pet theory.

It is just fvcking amazing. The self-styled physicists have fvcked up
on modern science, and now they are also psychology profilers. Don’t
tell Koobee Wublee that the self-styled physicists were a bunch of
psychology majors as undergrads. On the other hand, it might explain
why the self-styled physicists have intelligence border-lining with
vegetables. <shrug>

For example, the self-styled physicists have bragged about the GPS
being a hotbed of verification for GR. Well, in reality, it is far
from the case. The clock, the frequency accumulating the calendar
time, will certainly drift over time, temperature, stress, radiation,
reflection, refraction, and other engineering concerns, and it is
crucial to understand what exactly have to be synchronized. <shrug>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/5847920d8e567050

When all these unwelcomed effects are added all up, the anomaly will
certainly be larger than the puny effect GR predicts. That is why
engineers, the PROFESSIONALS retired or not, have devised algorithms
to overcome this issue such as the IEEE1588 to overcome these
anomalies whether if GR effect is valid or not. <shrug>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1588

Below is play between Tom and such a GPS satellite educating the folks
how clever engineering solutions can simply be achieved to overcome
these challenges where GR effect even if exists represents a very tiny
portion. Self-styled physicists have no right to claim the GPS for
their glories/trophies. <shrug>

Satellite: Tom, every 24 hours, just send me the UTC time, and I will
adjust my calendar time to match the UTC time.

Tom: Oh, don’t bother. You need GR for that.

Satellite: No, not really. Please just do what I have asked you.

Tom: OK, that would be a waste of time. How would you meet the
specification of setting your calendar time to within 1 usec of the
UTC time?

Satellite: My clock is 100MHz. This gives me a resolution of 10
nsec. It should be a piece of cake.

Tom: OK, at the time of beep, the UTC time will be
2,000,000,000.000’000 sec.

Satellite: Thank you. Please beep me again in exactly 24 hours of
your time from that beep.

[24 hours have passed in uncle Tom’s cabin]

Tom: Hey, Satellite, are you still there?

Satellite: Where the devil have you been? You are late. I have been
waiting for you beep for quite some time. My time has registered more
than 24 hours since your last beep.

Tom: No, I am not late. I had a restless sleep last night in which I
kept dreaming about Koobee Wublee haunting me everywhere I go. Among
our discussions, He beats me hands down in every subject. I am so
scared of noticing a post from Koobee Wublee addressing me. Oh, God!
I am going insane. What I have believed in the past is totally
bullshit according to Koobee Wublee, and a large part of me agrees
with Him. <weeping>

Satellite: Calm down, Tom. You are about to come up with the 24-hour
beep. Please stay in focus.

Tom: Oh, yes! At the time of beep, the UTC time will be
2,000,086,400.000’000 sec. <more weeping>

Satellite: Thanks, Tom. I don’t need you anymore. Now, I have all
the information I need to lock my calendar time to the UTC time
accurately to 1 usec. Well, this is an ideal situation.
Realistically, it will take several iterations to achieve just that.

Tom: <wiping away his tears> Wait! You need GR for that.

Satellite: Your 24 hours ago, when I first received that beep, my
calendar time showed 1,428,376,019.877’255’03 usec. 24 hours late, my
calendar time showed 1,428,465,254.688’912’73 sec at the time of
beep. In conjunction to...

Tom: <cutting Satellite off> You still need GR for that. <pounding
his shoe on his desk>

Satellite: No, I don’t. From the information I have gathered, I know
my 24 hours is (1,428,465,254.688’912’73 - 1,428,376,019.877’’25503 =
89,234.811’657’70) sec to yours (86,400.000’000 sec) which means my
clock is ticking (89,234.811’657’70 / 86,400.000’000 = 1.0328’103’201)
times too fast. I can easily compensate for that through software by
subtracting (89,234.811’657’70 - 86,400.000’000 = 2,834. 811’657’70)
sec every 89,234.811’657’70 sec. Also from the last beep, I know I
need to add (2,000,086,400.000’000 - 1,428,465,254.688’912’73 =
571,621,145.311’087’27) to my own calendar time to match with the UTC
time.

Tom: You are an idiot. You still need GR for that.

Satellite: I have just demonstrated that you do not need GR to match
my calendar time to within 1 usec of the UTC time, and my clock does
not even have to be the same as yours.

Tom: You are still an idiot. You will never learn. There is no need
for me to communicate with you any further. <more raucous ranting>

Satellite: <shrug> Once again, science triumphs over mysticisms.

Dr. Jekyll within Tom: Save me! Please, save me from the bullshit
the self-styled physicists are feeding us (me and Mr. Hyde).

Mr. Hyde within Tom: No, you don’t. Mysticism always rules within SR
and GR. <shrug>

Mahipal

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Jan 22, 2013, 2:22:26 PM1/22/13
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On Jan 22, 2:20 am, Koobee Wublee <koobee.wub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 21, 5:35 pm, black head <larryhar...@softhome.net> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 17, 6:12 am, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote:
>
> > > This is an article from six years back, so many have probably read it
> > > already. Still, I had not come across it, and it may be of interest to some.
>
> > >http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/1162
>
> > Says it all really about these Einstein bashers: "But there is a
> > pattern," he says. "They're always male — never female. Normally
> > professionals of some kind, doctors, pilots, engineers. And they're
> > always retired and have years to spend on their pet theory.
>
> It is just fvcking amazing.  The self-styled physicists have fvcked up
> on modern science, and now they are also psychology profilers.  Don’t
> tell Koobee Wublee that the self-styled physicists were a bunch of
> psychology majors as undergrads.  On the other hand, it might explain
> why the self-styled physicists have intelligence border-lining with
> vegetables.  <shrug>

Wow! I just read that article, and what a piece of nonsense. Anyone
who doubts is a crank, male, homeless, and or just plain nuts. Wow.
The article is more of a in your face threat than any considered
assessment. No women have doubts about relativity? To think such
publications actually exist -- outside Usenet. Wtf...

> For example, the self-styled physicists have bragged about the GPS
> being a hotbed of verification for GR.  Well, in reality, it is far
> from the case.  The clock, the frequency accumulating the calendar
> time, will certainly drift over time, temperature, stress, radiation,
> reflection, refraction, and other engineering concerns, and it is
> crucial to understand what exactly have to be synchronized.  <shrug>
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/5847920d8e5...

Curlytop

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Feb 9, 2013, 3:23:31 PM2/9/13
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Koobee Wublee set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
continuum:

> For example, the self-styled physicists have bragged about the GPS
> being a hotbed of verification for GR. Well, in reality, it is far
> from the case. The clock, the frequency accumulating the calendar
> time, will certainly drift over time, temperature, stress, radiation,
> reflection, refraction, and other engineering concerns, and it is
> crucial to understand what exactly have to be synchronized. <shrug>

The scientists who set up GPS have allowed for known _and_unknown_ effects
which may cause the on-board clocks to run at different rates. GR is a
known effect and needs to be allowed for, but in case GR isn't the full
story and actually needs refinement (and I'm happy with such refinements
being found to be necessary), they allow for unknown factors that affect
the synchronism between them.

In theoretical discussions of GR we consider ideal clocks, where all other
known effects (temperature variations, component aging, etc.) are allowed
for, and compare what would happen between such ideal clocks in Euclidean
space-time and such ideal clocks in reality.

> [snip the satellite / Major Tom dialogue, details not relevant to the
> next paragraph ]

What all this discussion specifies is a good practical way of synchronising
the satellite clocks to allow for all sorts of unknown factors. Doesn't
shake the theoretical basis of GR though. (Ask yourself: WHY is
synchronisation necessary at all?)
--
ξ: ) Proud to be curly

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Koobee Wublee

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Feb 10, 2013, 4:10:06 AM2/10/13
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On Feb 9, 12:23 pm, Curlytop wrote:

> Koobee Wublee set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
> continuum:

Koobee Wublee does not believe in the nonsense of spacetime. So,
eddies spirallying through spacetime is a mere figure of imagination
on Curly’s part. <shrug>

> > For example, the self-styled physicists have bragged about the GPS
> > being a hotbed of verification for GR. Well, in reality, it is far
> > from the case. The clock, the frequency accumulating the calendar
> > time, will certainly drift over time, temperature, stress, radiation,
> > reflection, refraction, and other engineering concerns, and it is
> > crucial to understand what exactly have to be synchronized. <shrug>
>
> The scientists who set up GPS have allowed for known _and_unknown_ effects
> which may cause the on-board clocks to run at different rates.

The GPS was set up by engineers with scientists as consultants ---
very incompetent consultants in fact. <shrug>

> GR is a known effect and needs to be allowed for,

GR effects are also predicted by many non-GR hypotheses. So, the
discussion really is not GR-centric. <shrug>

> but in case GR isn't the full
> story and actually needs refinement (and I'm happy with such refinements
> being found to be necessary), they allow for unknown factors that affect
> the synchronism between them.

You need to identify why these refinements are necessary in
implementations. So far, the accused refinements identified by self-
styled physicists are not necessary as Koobee Wublee and many others
have argued before. <shrug>

> In theoretical discussions of GR we consider ideal clocks, where all other
> known effects (temperature variations, component aging, etc.) are allowed
> for, and compare what would happen between such ideal clocks in Euclidean
> space-time and such ideal clocks in reality.

In any realistic scenarios, one will find other non-GR effects to be
ever so dominating. <shrug>

> > [snip the satellite / Major Tom dialogue, details not relevant to the
> > next paragraph ]

Snipping that, you will remain in mysticism. <shrug>

> What all this discussion specifies is a good practical way of synchronising
> the satellite clocks to allow for all sorts of unknown factors.

Synchronization is an issue challenged by algorithm engineers. There
is no need to apply GR effect even if realistic. Thus, it is
absolutely a lie to say GR effects are taken into accounts in GPS
development. <shrug>

> Doesn't
> shake the theoretical basis of GR though. (Ask yourself: WHY is
> synchronisation necessary at all?)

GPS synchronization of chronological time (not necessarily clock) is
necessary among the satellites (not with the ground stations). The
underlining reason has nothing to do with GR. <shrug>

> ξ: ) Proud to be curly

Whatever makes you happy. Be happy as an Einstein Dingleberry.
<shrug>

> Interchange the alphabetic letter groups to reply

What do you mean? Do you expect to receive a private email
complementing how smart you are? As a zealous believer in GR, you are
so predictable. Curly is another fine example where the following
Orwellian traits apply to self-styled physicists. <shrug>

** FAITH IS LOGIC
** LYING IS TEACHING
** DECEIT IS VALIDATION
** NITWIT IS GENIUS
** OCCULT IS SCIENCE
** FICTION IS THEORY
** FUDGING IS DERIVATION
** PARADOX IS KOSHER
** WORSHIP IS STUDY
** BULLSHIT IS TRUTH
** ARROGANCE IS SAGE
** BELIEVING IS LEARNING
** IGNORANCE IS KNOWLEDGE
** MYSTICISM IS WISDOM
** SCRIPTURE IS AXIOM
** CONJECTURE IS REALITY
** HANDWAVING IS REASONING
** PLAGIARISM IS CREATIVITY
** PRIESTHOOD IS TENURE
** FRAUDULENCE IS FACT
** MATHEMAGICS IS MATHEMATICS
** INCONSISTENCY IS CONSISTENCY
** INTERPRETATION IS VERIFICATION

<shrug>

Curlytop

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Feb 10, 2013, 1:20:04 PM2/10/13
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Koobee Wublee set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
continuum:

> [ Snip the drivel because there's no arguing with antirelativists.]
<shrug>

>> ξ: ) Proud to be curly
>
> Whatever makes you happy. Be happy as an Einstein Dingleberry.
> <shrug>

Since I have plenty of curl I cannot be the divergence of a scalar field.
<shrug>

>> Interchange the alphabetic letter groups to reply
>
> What do you mean? Do you expect to receive a private email
> complementing how smart you are?

I have had many such, from appropriate posters here. I don't think I could
really expect one from you. <shrug>
--
ξ: ) Proud to be curly

hanson

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Feb 10, 2013, 3:00:27 PM2/10/13
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ahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ROTFLMAO

--[[[ KW 1 -:- Curly 0, zero , null, nil, nada ]]]--
>
Passionately devout Einstein Dingleberry "Curlytop"
<pvstownse...@ntlworld.com> who knows
nothing but to worship Albert's sphinter cranked herself
as being....
>
Einstein Dingleberry Townsend who wrote:
Koobee Wublee set the following eddies spiralling through
the space-time continuum:
[ Snip the drivel because there's no arguing with antirelativists.]
Proud to be curly
>>
KW wrote:
Whatever makes you happy. Be happy as an Einstein Dingleberry.
<shrug>
>
E-Dingleberry-Townsend wrote:
Since I have plenty of curl I cannot be the divergence of a scalar field.
<shrug>
>
hanson wrote:
Hey you Schmuck, listen: "Div & Curl" won't really help you to
proselytize effectively for your Einstein worship of Albert's
Sphincter.
But you can "Dive" into Albert's asshole, "Curl" up in there &
be ecstatically happy, despite the fact that already more than
60 years ago
__ Einstein himself became a RELATIVITY DENIER __
<http://tinyurl.com/Einstein-denied-his-SR-and-GR>.....
>
Thanks for the laughs, you Dreidel.... ahahahaha....



hanson

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Feb 11, 2013, 3:18:52 AM2/11/13
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ahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ROTFLMAO

--[[[ KW 1 -:- Curly 0, zero , null, nil, nada ]]]--
>
Passionately devout Einstein Dingleberry "Curlytop"
<pvstownse...@ntlworld.com> who knows
nothing but to worship Albert's sphinter cranked herself
and being an....
>
Einstein Dingleberry Townsend wrote:
Koobee Wublee set the following eddies spiralling through
the space-time continuum:
[ Snip the drivel because there's no arguing with antirelativists.]
Proud to be curly
>>
KW wrote:
Whatever makes you happy. Be happy as an Einstein Dingleberry.
<shrug>
>
E-Dingleberry-Townsend wrote:
Since I have plenty of curl I cannot be the divergence of a scalar field.
<shrug>
>
hanson wrote:
Hey you Schmuck, listen: "Div & Curl" won't really help you to
proselytize effectively for your worship of Einstein's Sphincter.

hanson

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Feb 11, 2013, 12:24:08 PM2/11/13
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ahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ROTFLMAO

--[[[ KW 1 -:- Curly 0, zero , null, nil, nada ]]]--
>
>
Passionately devout Einstein Dingleberry "Curlytop"
<pvstownse...@ntlworld.com> aka "Prai Jei"
knows nothing but to worship Albert's sphinter. He
cranked himself and being an....
>
Einstein Dingleberry Townsend wrote:
Koobee Wublee set the following eddies spiralling through
the space-time continuum:
[ Snip the drivel because there's no arguing with antirelativists.]
Proud to be curly
>>
KW wrote:
Whatever makes you happy. Be happy as an Einstein Dingleberry.
<shrug>
>
E-Dingleberry-Townsend wrote:
Since I have plenty of curl I cannot be the divergence of a scalar field.
<shrug>
>
hanson wrote:
Hey you Schmuck, listen: "Div & Curl" won't really help you to
proselytize effectively for your worship of Einstein's Sphincter.
But you can "Dive" into Albert's colon, "Curl" up in there &

Jack...@hotmail.com

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