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Phillip Helbig---undress to reply
Mar 28, 2012, 4:41:31 AM3/28/12
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I would like to save some links from the ADS abstract search. However,
the automatically generated link is too long. I've found that a rather
obvious shortening produces ALMOST the same results, but not quite; in
particular, articles which have an astro.ph key do not show up. What do
I need to add to make them show up? No, it is not arxiv_sel=astro-ph.
Selecting just the author's name turns up too many (because not only
that AST database is searched).
On a related note, if there are astro-ph only keys which in the meantime
have proper bibliographic information (e.g. conference proceedings), is
there any way to get ADS to take this into account?
the automatically generated link is too long. I've found that a rather
obvious shortening produces ALMOST the same results, but not quite; in
particular, articles which have an astro.ph key do not show up. What do
I need to add to make them show up? No, it is not arxiv_sel=astro-ph.
Selecting just the author's name turns up too many (because not only
that AST database is searched).
On a related note, if there are astro-ph only keys which in the meantime
have proper bibliographic information (e.g. conference proceedings), is
there any way to get ADS to take this into account?
Steve Willner
Apr 2, 2012, 8:20:32 PM4/2/12
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In article <mt2.0-16404...@hydra.herts.ac.uk>,
If the former, register with ADS and create a "private library."
If the latter, click on the link, then copy the address in your
browser's address bar. That's usually a lot shorter than the ADS
link. I'm not sure why the built-in links are so long, but the short
ones seem to have the same functionality.
> On a related note, if there are astro-ph only keys which in the meantime
> have proper bibliographic information (e.g. conference proceedings), is
> there any way to get ADS to take this into account?
In principle ADS indexes all conference proceedings, but I'm not sure
they won't create two separate records (one for the initial astro-ph
submission and a second when the Proceedings finally appear). The
second record should be correct, but I'm not sure whether ADS will
cross-correlate with the earlier one and eliminate the duplicate.
(You could ask them what they do.) An author search should find both
links. You probably know this, but in case not: putting ^ before an
author name searches for that person as first author only. (I won't
tell you how long I was using ADS before finding that out!)
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Steve Willner Phone 617-495-7123 swil...@cfa.harvard.edu
Cambridge, MA 02138 USA
Phillip Helbig---undress to reply <hel...@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de> writes:
> I would like to save some links from the ADS abstract search. However,
> the automatically generated link is too long.
Are these links for your own future use or for giving to others?
> I would like to save some links from the ADS abstract search. However,
> the automatically generated link is too long.
If the former, register with ADS and create a "private library."
If the latter, click on the link, then copy the address in your
browser's address bar. That's usually a lot shorter than the ADS
link. I'm not sure why the built-in links are so long, but the short
ones seem to have the same functionality.
> On a related note, if there are astro-ph only keys which in the meantime
> have proper bibliographic information (e.g. conference proceedings), is
> there any way to get ADS to take this into account?
they won't create two separate records (one for the initial astro-ph
submission and a second when the Proceedings finally appear). The
second record should be correct, but I'm not sure whether ADS will
cross-correlate with the earlier one and eliminate the duplicate.
(You could ask them what they do.) An author search should find both
links. You probably know this, but in case not: putting ^ before an
author name searches for that person as first author only. (I won't
tell you how long I was using ADS before finding that out!)
--
Help keep our newsgroup healthy; please don't feed the trolls.
Steve Willner Phone 617-495-7123 swil...@cfa.harvard.edu
Cambridge, MA 02138 USA
Phillip Helbig---undress to reply
Apr 3, 2012, 10:28:07 AM4/3/12
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In article <mt2.0-29396...@hydra.herts.ac.uk>, Steve Willner
> If the former, register with ADS and create a "private library."
>
> If the latter, click on the link, then copy the address in your
> browser's address bar. That's usually a lot shorter than the ADS
> link. I'm not sure why the built-in links are so long, but the short
> ones seem to have the same functionality.
I don't follow. If I enter a query by filling in the form, I get the
results I want. The link to those results is what is now in the
browser's address bar, and that is what is too long. What should I
"click on"? Some experimenting shows that I can remove parts of the
address and still get the same result, but I would rather start out with
the shortest link which meets my needs.
> > On a related note, if there are astro-ph only keys which in the meantime
> > have proper bibliographic information (e.g. conference proceedings), is
> > there any way to get ADS to take this into account?
>
> In principle ADS indexes all conference proceedings, but I'm not sure
> they won't create two separate records (one for the initial astro-ph
> submission and a second when the Proceedings finally appear).
That's not the problem here. (Google citations allows one to "merge"
such entries.) Rather, the only record is from the arXiv, even though
the proceedings have appeared many years ago (and not something obscure,
but PASP Conference Series or something I thought they would index).
<wil...@cfa.harvard.edu> writes:
> In article <mt2.0-16404...@hydra.herts.ac.uk>,
> Phillip Helbig---undress to reply <hel...@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de> writes:
> > I would like to save some links from the ADS abstract search. However,
> > the automatically generated link is too long.
>
> Are these links for your own future use or for giving to others?
Both.
> In article <mt2.0-16404...@hydra.herts.ac.uk>,
> Phillip Helbig---undress to reply <hel...@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de> writes:
> > I would like to save some links from the ADS abstract search. However,
> > the automatically generated link is too long.
>
> Are these links for your own future use or for giving to others?
> If the former, register with ADS and create a "private library."
>
> If the latter, click on the link, then copy the address in your
> browser's address bar. That's usually a lot shorter than the ADS
> link. I'm not sure why the built-in links are so long, but the short
> ones seem to have the same functionality.
results I want. The link to those results is what is now in the
browser's address bar, and that is what is too long. What should I
"click on"? Some experimenting shows that I can remove parts of the
address and still get the same result, but I would rather start out with
the shortest link which meets my needs.
> > On a related note, if there are astro-ph only keys which in the meantime
> > have proper bibliographic information (e.g. conference proceedings), is
> > there any way to get ADS to take this into account?
>
> In principle ADS indexes all conference proceedings, but I'm not sure
> they won't create two separate records (one for the initial astro-ph
> submission and a second when the Proceedings finally appear).
such entries.) Rather, the only record is from the arXiv, even though
the proceedings have appeared many years ago (and not something obscure,
but PASP Conference Series or something I thought they would index).
Steve Willner
Apr 5, 2012, 2:52:43 AM4/5/12
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In article <mt2.0-17037...@hydra.herts.ac.uk>,
characters for a very simple query. You could probably break it up
some way, then put it back together if you had to, but wouldn't it be
simpler to save the results? You can save query results in a file or
have them emailed in any of numerous formats.
If you want to have the results in a format that you can use as
hyperlinks to each article, put
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/%r
into the format box and choose "custom format."
I confess I'm still not clear on what you are trying to do or exactly
what problem you are experiencing.
> the only record is from the arXiv, even though
> the proceedings have appeared many years ago (and not something obscure,
> but PASP Conference Series or something I thought they would index).
They should indeed be indexing all those. If some are missing,
contact ADS via
http://www.adsabs.harvard.edu/user_feedback.html .
I've found it usually takes a couple or three days for someone to get
back to me, but the ADS staff is tremendously helpful.
Phillip Helbig---undress to reply <hel...@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de> writes:
> If I enter a query by filling in the form, I get the
> results I want. The link to those results is what is now in the
> browser's address bar, and that is what is too long.
It's long, but what's your limit for "too long?" I got 766
> If I enter a query by filling in the form, I get the
> results I want. The link to those results is what is now in the
> browser's address bar, and that is what is too long.
characters for a very simple query. You could probably break it up
some way, then put it back together if you had to, but wouldn't it be
simpler to save the results? You can save query results in a file or
have them emailed in any of numerous formats.
If you want to have the results in a format that you can use as
hyperlinks to each article, put
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/%r
into the format box and choose "custom format."
I confess I'm still not clear on what you are trying to do or exactly
what problem you are experiencing.
> the only record is from the arXiv, even though
> the proceedings have appeared many years ago (and not something obscure,
> but PASP Conference Series or something I thought they would index).
contact ADS via
http://www.adsabs.harvard.edu/user_feedback.html .
I've found it usually takes a couple or three days for someone to get
back to me, but the ADS staff is tremendously helpful.
Phillip Helbig---undress to reply
Apr 5, 2012, 4:38:48 PM4/5/12
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In article <mt2.0-23090...@hydra.herts.ac.uk>, Steve Willner
generates them, something short enough to include in an email or
newsgroup post, say, without wrapping.
> If you want to have the results in a format that you can use as
> hyperlinks to each article,
Not to each article, but to the list.
> They should indeed be indexing all those. If some are missing,
> contact ADS via
> http://www.adsabs.harvard.edu/user_feedback.html .
> I've found it usually takes a couple or three days for someone to get
> back to me, but the ADS staff is tremendously helpful.
OK, thanks.
<wil...@cfa.harvard.edu> writes:
> In article <mt2.0-17037...@hydra.herts.ac.uk>,
> Phillip Helbig---undress to reply <hel...@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de> writes:
> > If I enter a query by filling in the form, I get the
> > results I want. The link to those results is what is now in the
> > browser's address bar, and that is what is too long.
>
> It's long, but what's your limit for "too long?" I got 766
> characters for a very simple query. You could probably break it up
> some way, then put it back together if you had to, but wouldn't it be
> simpler to save the results? You can save query results in a file or
> have them emailed in any of numerous formats.
I don't want to save the results as such but rather the URL which
> In article <mt2.0-17037...@hydra.herts.ac.uk>,
> Phillip Helbig---undress to reply <hel...@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de> writes:
> > If I enter a query by filling in the form, I get the
> > results I want. The link to those results is what is now in the
> > browser's address bar, and that is what is too long.
>
> It's long, but what's your limit for "too long?" I got 766
> characters for a very simple query. You could probably break it up
> some way, then put it back together if you had to, but wouldn't it be
> simpler to save the results? You can save query results in a file or
> have them emailed in any of numerous formats.
generates them, something short enough to include in an email or
newsgroup post, say, without wrapping.
> If you want to have the results in a format that you can use as
> hyperlinks to each article,
> They should indeed be indexing all those. If some are missing,
> contact ADS via
> http://www.adsabs.harvard.edu/user_feedback.html .
> I've found it usually takes a couple or three days for someone to get
> back to me, but the ADS staff is tremendously helpful.
Steve Willner
Apr 7, 2012, 6:21:02 AM4/7/12
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In article <mt2.0-6134...@hydra.herts.ac.uk>,
query that includes all the information in the query form. Even the
simple query I tried was of order 1000 characters. You could still
use copy and paste to put that into a file and email it, but it won't
be anything short.
It's possible, I suppose, that a query with very few constraints
might result in a short URL, but that probably won't be too useful.
You could try it if you want.
Phillip Helbig---undress to reply <hel...@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de> writes:
> I don't want to save the results as such but rather the URL which
> generates them, something short enough to include in an email or
> newsgroup post, say, without wrapping.
I think you're out of luck, then. The URL is essentially an SQL
> I don't want to save the results as such but rather the URL which
> generates them, something short enough to include in an email or
> newsgroup post, say, without wrapping.
query that includes all the information in the query form. Even the
simple query I tried was of order 1000 characters. You could still
use copy and paste to put that into a file and email it, but it won't
be anything short.
It's possible, I suppose, that a query with very few constraints
might result in a short URL, but that probably won't be too useful.
You could try it if you want.
Phillip Helbig---undress to reply
Apr 7, 2012, 5:28:08 PM4/7/12
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In article <mt2.0-22298...@hydra.herts.ac.uk>, Steve Willner
contains many (all?) parameters, but most have their default values. By
leaving them out, it is possible to get a short URL with the same
results (at least if the results one wants correspond to the defaults).
<wil...@cfa.harvard.edu> writes:
> I think you're out of luck, then. The URL is essentially an SQL
> query that includes all the information in the query form. Even the
> simple query I tried was of order 1000 characters. You could still
> use copy and paste to put that into a file and email it, but it won't
> be anything short.
>
> It's possible, I suppose, that a query with very few constraints
> might result in a short URL, but that probably won't be too useful.
> You could try it if you want.
It seems it is possible. The URL resulting from filling in the form
> I think you're out of luck, then. The URL is essentially an SQL
> query that includes all the information in the query form. Even the
> simple query I tried was of order 1000 characters. You could still
> use copy and paste to put that into a file and email it, but it won't
> be anything short.
>
> It's possible, I suppose, that a query with very few constraints
> might result in a short URL, but that probably won't be too useful.
> You could try it if you want.
contains many (all?) parameters, but most have their default values. By
leaving them out, it is possible to get a short URL with the same
results (at least if the results one wants correspond to the defaults).
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