Deep hole spotted on moon
Sam Wormley
Deep hole spotted on moon
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/49845/title/Deep_hole_spotted_on_moon
The feature may be a ‘skylight’ in an underground lava tube.
Bob Lablaw
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Greg Neill
> They'll never know for sure what it is
>
Never is a long time. What do you think will prevent "Them"
from ever finding out?
David Staup
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well the collapse of civilazition caused by liberal/progressive policies
would do it!
watch closely here and you'll see what I mean!
Quadibloc
> Never is a long time. What do you think will prevent "Them"
> from ever finding out?
Because Cavorite is a physical impossibility?
Then there's the Eighth Ray and the Ninth Ray - I forget which one is
used for manufacturing air, and which one is used for antigravity...
since the Kalkars, like the Selenites, lived underground, IIRC.
John Savard
Davoud
> > They'll never know for sure what it is
Greg Neill replied:
> Never is a long time. What do you think will prevent "Them"
> from ever finding out?
I don't know who they are _or_ whether they will ever know what it is,
but they might be prevented from finding out because it's not important
enough in the scheme of things to spend money investigating -- unless
"they" happened to be in the area for some other extremely important
reason and could add an investigation of the hole in the Moon to their
mission for an additional $20 or so.
Such an investigation would almost certainly involve a robot or a man
shining a flashlight down into the hole, as that's a time-tested and
proven way of finding out what a hole is all about.
Barring something out of SF such as the discovery of an artifact, which
ain't gonna happen, I can't think of a single good reason to _ever_
send a human to the Moon again, or to send a human to any other
Solar-System body. Anyone who thinks that we will colonize the Moon or
Mars is confusing wishful thinking with reality.
A team of robots installing optical and radio telescopes on the Moon,
now _that_ makes sense to me.
Davoud
"First of all, I wanted to say that all of this work�the Hubble Space
Telescope, the MAP satellite�all of this has used satellites produced
by Earth nations, but that are unmanned; there are no astronauts in
these satellites. They are not needed, everything can be done
robotically, and furthermore, astronauts would get in the way. They
bump into things, they radiate heat�you don�t want people where you�re
doing real science�except on the ground.
"Unfortunately, there is a kind of puerile fascination with people in
space that is causing countries�Russia, the United States�to spend vast
sums on putting people into space. The President of the United States
has a new initiative to go back to the Moon and then go on to Mars at a
cost of hundreds of billions of dollars�perhaps nearly a trillion
dollars. Well, this may have some justification in terms of excitement,
I mean, after all, we support football and the Olympics, all sorts of
things, but don�t call it science. Don�t confuse it with science.
That�s the Disney version of science. Real science consists of people
on Earth sending unmanned satellites up, or doing observations on the
surface of the Earth and at their desks painfully working out the
implications of this. People can be sent up into space and hit a few
golf balls around on the surface of the Moon...that�s all fine if you
like that kind of spectacle, but it has nothing to do with scientific
research." -- Steven Weinberg, PhD, Nobel Laureate in Physics.
--
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.
usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
jerry warner
Sam Wormley wrote:
... and the hole is located where?
"The team found the first candidate skylight in a volcanic area on the moon's near
side called Marius Hills. "This is the first time that anybody's actually identified
a skylight in a possible lava tube" on the moon, van der Bogert, who helped analyse
the feature, told New Scientist.
The hole measures 65 metres across, and based on images taken at a variety of sun
angles, the the hole is thought to extend down at least 80 metres. It sits in the
middle of a rille, suggesting the hole leads into a lava tube as wide as 370 metres
across.
It is not clear exactly how the hole formed. A meteorite impact, moonquakes, or
pressure created by gravitational tugs from the Earth could be to blame.
Alternatively, part of the lava tube's ceiling could have been pulled off as lava in
the tube drained away billions of years ago."
http://www.planetary.org/blog/article/00002173/
"Kaguya Terrain Camera image of unnamed rille within Marius Hills region
Kaguya captured this photo of n unnamed rille within the Marius Hills region of the
Moon on May 20, 2008. The pixel scale is about 10.8 meters. The rille's topography
is very subdued; it has likely been partially filled with lava from a later flow
since it originally formed. Credit: ISAS / JAXA / Junichi Haruyama et al."
similar deep holes have been found on other terrestrial
bodies:
http://forums.di.fm/outer-space-and-the-universe/deep-hole-found-on-mars-121062/
jerry warner
Bob Lablaw wrote:
> They'll never know for sure what it is
>
another abandoned child.
Bob Lablaw
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BradGuth
> Deep hole spotted on moonhttp://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/49845/title/Deep_hole_spot...
> The feature may be a ‘skylight’ in an underground lava tube.
The moon could also be 0.1% hollow, or how about 1% hollow under that
thick and robust crust.
~ BG
Sam Wormley
Bzzzzt! Nope!
Bob Lablaw
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BradGuth
Your purely subjective analogy is based upon hocus-pocus physics-101?
How much obfuscation do you folks have to practice in order to get
that mainstream brow-nose merit badge?
Apparently you and others of your parrot kind consider a soccer ball
as not hollow, as well as any volume of easily removed fluids as not
hollow.
Why don't you tell us how much or how little structural mass can be
held up by an external surface vacuum of 3e-15 bar, especially it that
mass were a thick sphere of robust basalt and where there's only 1.6 m/
s of gravity.
~ BG
BradGuth
>
> news:80a141ec-6a4a-420b...@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 21, 5:07 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
> > Deep hole spotted on
> > moonhttp://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/49845/title/Deep_hole_spot...
> > The feature may be a ‘skylight’ in an underground lava tube.
>
> The moon could also be 0.1% hollow, or how about 1% hollow under that
> thick and robust crust.
>
> ~ BG
Your profound belligerence and obfuscation is noted.
~ BG
Sam Wormley
> On Nov 23, 9:33 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>> BradGuth wrote:
>>> On Nov 21, 5:07 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>>>> Deep hole spotted on moonhttp://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/49845/title/Deep_hole_spot...
>>>> The feature may be a ‘skylight’ in an underground lava tube.
>>> The moon could also be 0.1% hollow, or how about 1% hollow under that
>>> thick and robust crust.
>>> ~ BG
>> Bzzzzt! Nope!
>
> Your purely subjective analogy is based upon hocus-pocus physics-101?
>
> How much obfuscation do you folks have to practice in order to get
> that mainstream brow-nose merit badge?
>
> Apparently you and others of your parrot kind consider a soccer ball
> as not hollow, as well as any volume of easily removed fluids as not
> hollow.
You are obviously confusing celestials bodies (moon) with soccer
balls. Perhaps taking a physics 101 is a good idea for you, Guth.
Or at least a bit of self-education!