Best BB gun for taking out a neighbors porch light ?
Mean Mr Mustard
entire neighborhood. One is approx 50 yards from me, the other is a
good 200 yards.
I'm thinking a Daisy "Red Rider" for the close neighbor and a
pneumatic .177 cal for the guy at the end of the block. Any
suggestions?
Algomeysa2
news:ef808dff.04092...@posting.google.com...
You'll put your eye out.
Tom Randy
Yeah, don't do it. Simple really. Many of us have no choice but to travel
a bit to dark sites. You can't do that from jail.
Tom
CHASLX200
>From: macu...@yahoo.com (Mean Mr Mustard)
>Date: 9/25/2004 4:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <ef808dff.04092...@posting.google.com>
>
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I have 3 pellet guns that will do the job very well! The Beeman Dual magnum
it's 22 cal with over 34ft-lbs of energy, shoots a 22 cal 18 grain pellet at
980fps.
Or the Logun MK11 it's a PCP airgun with a modarator for very quite shooting,
it also has 36ft -lbs of energy, and shoots one holers at 50 yrds!
And the last is a Beeman SLR-98 22 cal gas ram, with 18ft-lbs of energy, comes
with a 7 shot magazine.
All of the above gun cost me well over a $1000 with scope each , and anyone of
them will do the job very well...
Chas P.
DT
This is not the way to go about it, you could get into trouble! Pay a
local child to do it, just say they're lying when they rat on you!
(For those who's sense of humor has been surgically removed, this is a
joke post)
--
DT
If you think life is a serious business, you're doing it wrong.
starburst
>> I'm thinking a Daisy "Red Rider" for the close neighbor and a
>> pneumatic .177 cal for the guy at the end of the block. Any
>> suggestions?
>
>
> This is not the way to go about it, you could get into trouble! Pay a
> local child to do it, just say they're lying when they rat on you!
>
> (For those who's sense of humor has been surgically removed, this is a
> joke post)
Good advice, though...
Phil Wheeler
Phil Wheeler
CHASLX200 wrote:
Looks like you have a potential career as a Traveling Light Pollution
Hit Man, Chas :-)
Phil Wheeler
starburst wrote:
No .. always hire an adult, lest you be accused of child-related crimes
(contributing to the delinquency, etc.). Plus a well-selected adult
(e.g., Chas) may have the necessary arsenal.
(also a joke post!)
Phil
Sam Wormley
After all other solutions fail--try a high power water jet to thermally
shock the offending bulb. Industrial cutting lasers do the trick, but
educating the neighbor is always better... bake them a pie!
CHASLX200
>From: Phil Wheeler w6tu...@yahoo.com
>Date: 9/25/2004 10:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <lrf5d.20233$XW.1...@twister.socal.rr.com>
>
>Looks like you have a potential career as a Traveling Light Pollution
>Hit Man, Chas :-)
>
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Naw , i'm just a tree rat hunter...
Chas P.
Chris.B
Never mind the guns. Get a large mirror and stand outside their house
reflecting their light back at them, It's so damned easy to sit behind
the light isn't it? See how they like being in front of it as well!
;-)
If that fails try reflecting the sun at their house with a mirror in
the daytime. Use something to prop it up so it shines contantly at
their windows. This will quickly drive them mad. See how they like
being in the glare! :-))
If you should get into conversation with them point out that only
lights coming in the dark alert people to thieves. Lights on
permanently show the thief where to go first. When questioned
convicted burglars said they always preferred houses with well lit
gardens as targets. It no doubt saved them carrying a torch and
falling over the trashcan and kids toys. The chances are, that those
with permanently lit security lights, aren't at home.
Chris.B
Geoff
wrote:
but
>educating the neighbor is always better... bake them a pie!
Problem is after that they have a suspect for any shot-out lights
should they not decide to consider your hobby.
Geoff
wrote:
You could always get some steel band as used to tie house bricks,
throw it over the power lines and take out all the lights in the block
:)
Wfoley2
plastique could be applied around the base of the lights and set off.
To prevent the neighbors reporting any such activities, a generous coating of
DMSO and ricin on their doorknobs should silence them. Or a nice meal of
Amanita Vernosa.
Seriously, PLEASE do NOT do any of that, it is all highly illegal. How about
showing them Saturn, M13, M42, and other goodies in your scope and mentioning
how much nicer the view would be without the distraction (and defeat of
dark-adaptation) of the lights?
Failing the friendly approach, you might check out the local regulations about
light trespass, and enforce it if there, or try to get if passed if it is not
there.
Clear, Dark, Steady Skies!
(And considerate neighbors!!!)
Guy Macon
Chris.B <chr...@mail.dk> says...
>try reflecting the sun at their house with a mirror in
>the daytime. Use something to prop it up so it shines contantly at
>their windows. This will quickly drive them mad. See how they like
>being in the glare!
Programming a small goto scope so that a mirror on it will always
shine the sunlight to the same spot would be an interesting challenge...
Shawn
Lots of good advice in other posts. Don't forget the wrist rocket sling
shot approach. I have a folding one that can be tucked in a pocket
within seconds for the "Who, me?" defense.
Also, don't shoot from *your* backyard. Indict a neighbor!
Shawn
Phil Wheeler
Chris.B wrote:
> macu...@yahoo.com (Mean Mr Mustard) wrote in message news:<ef808dff.04092...@posting.google.com>...
>
>>Two of my neighbors have obnoxious security lights that blanket the
>>entire neighborhood. One is approx 50 yards from me, the other is a
>>good 200 yards.
>>
>>I'm thinking a Daisy "Red Rider" for the close neighbor and a
>>pneumatic .177 cal for the guy at the end of the block. Any
>>suggestions?
>
>
> Never mind the guns. Get a large mirror and stand outside their house
> reflecting their light back at them, It's so damned easy to sit behind
> the light isn't it? See how they like being in front of it as well!
> ;-)
>
> If that fails try reflecting the sun at their house with a mirror in
> the daytime. Use something to prop it up so it shines contantly at
> their windows. This will quickly drive them mad. See how they like
> being in the glare! :-))
>
Love it -- LOL
StarsWatch
You need a pellet rifle with a good Rifled barrel. And for the specialized
needs of the urbanized skywatcher who frequently needs to deal with neighbors
who turn on their outside lights just to annoy you, I recommend The Airforce
Talon SS Air Rifle in .22 cal.
< http://www.pyramydair.com/site/articles/talon/ >
As it is a " Sound Suppressed Gun " Which means it is Extremely quite given its
power 25ft-lbs. " That's quieter than the pump-up type they sell at WalMart
which only delivers 6 to 8 ft-lbs of energy. From 75ft away nobody notices a
thing. Except the tinkling sounds of breaking glass. But it is a PCP gun.
Which means you will need a SCUBA tank or a special compressor to fill the guns
air tank ' it will shoot many times per fill ". This is because the power of
the PCP gun comes from operating at 3000psi !
All in good humor of course , Roger ?:^)
Mike Jones
You could ask them to have switches installed on their light poles so
they could turn them on only when needed. That worked great for me when
we lived in the country west of Corpus Christi TX in the early 70's.
Very good, understanding, cooperative neighbors who ended up enjoying
occasional evenings with my telescopes. A less desirable but
alternative solution if they feel they just have to have their damn
lights is to offer to paint the side of the diffuser in your direction
to at least block the direct light, or split the cost or even pay fully
for light shields for their lights.
Mike
Peter Bealo
Remember the old addage..."Violence is the last resort of the
incompetant"...so DO NOT allow it to become the last resort, do it now!
Peter
Sweet Hill Observatory
"Mike Jones" <jon...@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:41559D94...@airmail.net...
Manuel Joseph Din
> Rifled pellet rifles work best :-)
Yes, but they leave a ballistic fingerprint on the pellet. It will have
to be retrieved to sanitize the crime scene. I think the smooth bore
.177 bb is called for here, or alternately, a slingshot. Pea gravel is
untraceable.
CDSTYA,
MJD
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Mike Jones
You could ask them to have switches installed on their light poles so
nos...@nopam.com
What you want to do is to get a super soaker and spray the light
with a mixture of salt and vineger. This will cause the entire
fixture to short out and then to slowly rot away, and you can
have Fish & Chips if you have any left over!
Bert Hyman
wrote:
> Mean Mr Mustard wrote:
>
>> Two of my neighbors have obnoxious security lights that blanket the
>> entire neighborhood. One is approx 50 yards from me, the other is a
>> good 200 yards.
>> ...
> You could ask them to have switches installed on their light poles so
> they could turn them on only when needed. ...
That's not nearly as much fun as trolling this newsgroup.
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@visi.com
Richard
wrote:
Beeman's .20 calibre model with the pellets with hardened tips
and plastic skirts are good. 7 pumps and it hits like a brick.
Sky-High
> entire neighborhood. One is approx 50 yards from me, the other is a
> good 200 yards.
>
> I'm thinking a Daisy "Red Rider" for the close neighbor and a
> pneumatic .177 cal for the guy at the end of the block. Any
> suggestions?
Stealth is the answer.
Wait till the neighbor goes to work. Then remove the bulb from the
socket. Push a small piece of paper or plastic up into the fixture to
insulate the end of the bulb. Replace after first putting a small
amount of super-glue on the base of the bulb. The end result is a
light that will not shine and a bulb that cannot be removed.
-sh
Chris.B
I love it! :-)
Nobody notices the gun. But the rumble of the wheels from the truck
carrying the gas tank can be heard at a 1000 yards! Sheer genius. ;-)
Don't you guys have paint guns for war gaming? They use quite small,
lightweight aluminum, compressed air tanks. Considering the investment
you should probably go pro though. Put an ad for your sevices in the
local paper. I'm not sure about the law relating to splattering the
front of a house just to take out a single light. But you might cop a
lower sentence for not using hard amo! Or just claim you are a
graffiti artist-in-residence. :-)
Chris.B
Wfoley2
>socket. Push a small piece of paper or plastic up into the fixture to
>insulate the end of the bulb. Replace after first putting a small
>amount of super-glue on the base of the bulb. The end result is a
>light that will not shine and a bulb that cannot be removed.
>
My favorite. But Gorilla Glue might be more permanent if it gets time
to set....
Sky-High
> Two of my neighbors have obnoxious security lights that blanket the
> entire neighborhood. One is approx 50 yards from me, the other is a
> good 200 yards.
>
> I'm thinking a Daisy "Red Rider" for the close neighbor and a
> pneumatic .177 cal for the guy at the end of the block. Any
> suggestions?
Stealth is better:
Wait till the neighbor goes to work. Then remove the bulb from the
socket. Push a small piece of paper or plastic up into the fixture to
insulate the end of the bulb. Replace after first putting a small
amount of super-glue on the base of the bulb. The end result is a
light that will not shine and a bulb that cannot be removed.
-sh
Atm
"the
> socket. Push a small piece of paper or plastic up into the fixture to
> insulate the end of the bulb. Replace after first putting a small
> amount of super-glue on the base of the bulb. The end result is a
> light that will not shine and a bulb that cannot be removed.
>
RIGHT FUCKING ON!! That's the key.
u...@ftc.gov
I have been looking at that moster airgun that you fill from a scuba tank.
I *want* one...
What is the legal situation in the US and the UK concerning something
like that, as opposed to a normal firearm?
Jim Walters
1. file complaint with city - most cities now requiire lighting to not
invade neighbors and light only one's own property!
2. file complaint with county health dept! No sleep premise etc.
3. nusance suit...
4. invasion of privacy + damages suit ...
......................
Jim Walters
anyone taking independent action - they love to get you in trouble and
have the police at your door for doing something to "their property"!
It's an extreme anti-social control thing. Consider the psychology involved.
(Real Fox news control wise guy types). So you simply have to call their
nusance activity for what it is and start from that premise.
Roger Hamlett
<u...@ftc.gov> wrote in message news:10lf9pe...@news.supernews.com...
certificate, as a normal firearm (6ft/lb for a handgun). You would also
have to be aware, that there are rules about shooting within a certain
distance of a public right-of-way, which apply to air weapons, as well as
firearms. Many air weapon manufacturers produce versions to just meet the
UK limits, and other variants that require an FAC. For instance,
'Gunpower' (http://www.gunpower.org.uk/home.htm), produce their 'stealth'
weapon, with two different gas bottle/valve assemblies. The first is
available without certificate, while the second goes to about 30ft/lb, and
requires an FAC.
Best Wishes
Jon Isaacs
>to set....
Bottomline, these sorts of solutions are nice fantasies, not real solutions.
The real solution is just to discuss the situation with the neighbor.
jon
CHASLX200
>From: joni...@aol.com (Jon Isaacs)
>Date: 9/27/2004 6:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20040927065246...@mb-m21.aol.com>
>
>Bottomline, these sorts of solutions are nice fantasies, not real solutions.
>The real solution is just to discuss the situation with the neighbor.
>
>jon
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The best thing to do is move 50 miles from anyone!!!
Chas P.
StarsWatch
while they're all gathered round the BBQ looking at said kitty. . .
Other than that the SCUBA tank requires a understanding dive shop to get it
refilled. As you would generally need a diver's Compressed Gases proficiency
certificate to have a SCUBA tank refilled. . . Oh did I mention that a SCUBA
tank costs $350 - $900 ! ! !
Clear Skies, Roger ?;^)
CHASLX200
>Date: 9/27/2004 1:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20040927131026...@mb-m10.aol.com>
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Or you can get a compressor made for PCP's airguns, they cost around $1400...
Chas P.
Total Mikal
>
> Chas P.
YOU are a complete fucking WACKJOB!
StarsWatch
.**********
CHASLX200
>Date: 9/27/2004 2:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <kDY5d.46870$yW6.16523@clgrps12>
>TOTAL FOOL WRONTE<<<
>> Chas P.
>
>YOU are a complete fucking WACKJOB!
>
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You bet your sweet butt i am !!!
Chas P.
Alexander Avtanski
> Not enough oomph. Check out the 10 gauge semi autos on gunsamerica.com. [ ... ]
Still not enough oomph! Don't take down the light
on the porch... Take down the porch!
Think big!
- A, :-)
Jax
"StarsWatch" <stars...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040927142043...@mb-m05.aol.com...
check out the Career 707. very accurate. 1200 fps. variable power
settings. choice of calibers .22, .25, 9mm. it has an optional handpump
for $235.
Jon Isaacs
>on the porch... Take down the porch!
>
>Think big!
>
>- A, :-)
OK, is this big enough for you. Uses standard bottled Helium for the gas, 6
inch bore, 16 ft barrel, projectile mass is measured in Kilograms, energies up
to around 100,000 ft-lbs.
http://www-ceam.ucsd.edu/CeamFacilities/sld005.htm
jon
katr...@worldnet.att.net
I did!
Now... what gun and ammo (perhaps a rocket?) will I need to shoot out
the streetlamps that are 20 miles away? Will I need GPS?
Cathy
Alexander Avtanski
Jon Isaacs wrote:
Wow! Niiiice! 8-)
Now, if you can mount it on a standard tripod, aligned with
the scope: "Yuck, that tree is blocking Omega Centauri!
[OOMPH!]... Ah, much better!"
- Alex
Richard
In Canada, it's anything over 475fps. Which in itself is stupid
because a .22 pellet weighs more than a .177 so speed in
and of itself isn't the only consideration. You could probably
"detune" .45 calibre handgun ammo to travel 400fps and it
would still kill someone. A bb is even lighter than a pellet.
-Rich
u...@ftc.gov
katr...@worldnet.att.net <katr...@worldnet.att.net> says...
>Now... what gun and ammo (perhaps a rocket?) will I need to shoot out
>the streetlamps that are 20 miles away? Will I need GPS?
Light seeking missles.
BTW, did anybody answer the question about how legal these big
airguns are in the US?
Richard
Most people don't know that in the 1700s there were airguns used in
the same way as true firearms, for hunting, shooting people, etc.
-Rich
Alan Dana
"Mean Mr Mustard" <macu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ef808dff.04092...@posting.google.com...
> Two of my neighbors have obnoxious security lights that blanket the
> entire neighborhood. One is approx 50 yards from me, the other is a
> good 200 yards.
>
> I'm thinking a Daisy "Red Rider" for the close neighbor and a
> pneumatic .177 cal for the guy at the end of the block. Any
> suggestions?
I haven't read every message on this thread, but is there a chance
that a stun gun would short out the light bulb or circuitry? If so,
then one could chalk it up to a power surge or poor quality. No
tell-tale bullet holes.
Roger Hamlett
"Richard" <rande...@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:fddhl0p8kcot1t7k0...@4ax.com...
The Austrian army, had a system using little spherical gas bottles, about
the size of the ball float in a WC cystern, that screwed onto the rifle,
and which was considered 'unsportsmanlike', because it allowed snipers to
operate allmost silently. It was more powerful, and faster to operate than
the firearms of the day.
Best Wishe
Chris.B
> Think instead about:
> 1. file complaint with city - most cities now requiire lighting to not
> invade neighbors and light only one's own property!
> 2. file complaint with county health dept! No sleep premise etc.
> 3. nusance suit...
> 4. invasion of privacy + damages suit ...
What about pointing your vehicle at their house and leaving the
headlights on main beam for while? Know anybody with a row of lights
across the top of the cab windscreen? African safari style?
I can't imagine you could get into serious trouble for forgetting to
switch off your lights on your vehicle. A polite thankyou to the
police if they turn up. For reminding you of your forgetfulness. You
can sit in your car and read if it's illegal to leave the engine
running with the vehicle unattended. Or if you're afraid of theft. ;-)
Chris.B
Geoff
>Bottomline, these sorts of solutions are nice fantasies, not real solutions.
>The real solution is just to discuss the situation with the neighbor.
>
>jon
This is a solution that wont land you in jail or get your front yard
rotary hoed by your neighbors tyres.
Kruger Kid
>
>BTW, did anybody answer the question about how legal these big
>airguns are in the US?
In the US I know it varies state by state.
Many cities have restrictions. Most are relating to the discharge or
carring of air guns in public areas. Most places have no restrictions
if you are over 18. There are many restrictions pertaining to minors
though. In California as long as it is 6mm or less in caliber it is
considered a BB gun. There is no mention of Feet per Second or Foot
Lbs restriction in the Penal Code, just Caliber.
Check with your local Police Dept for your area to find out.
A UK gunlaw link.......
http://website.lineone.net/~triggerfish/gunlaw.htm
Marty
>Chas P.
Whenever I see references to squirrel hunting, I feel obligated to post
the following as a public service announcement:
http://www.mad-cow.org/~tom/victim23.html
Marty
CHASLX200
>Date: 9/28/2004 11:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <2437-415...@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net>
>
>Whenever I see references to squirrel hunting, I feel obligated to post
>the following as a public service announcement:
>http://www.mad-cow.org/~tom/victim23.html
> Marty
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Never said i eat em!!!
Chas P.
katr...@worldnet.att.net
Anymore?
rander3127
So Mad Cow culls some of the inbred there.
-Rich
Marty
:) Leave it to Cathy to come up with the name for Hungarian squirrel
brains...
Marty
Mike Johnson
Explain the situation cordially, and consider including a pamphlet
from the International DarkSky Association.
(I can't believe no one mentioned the IDA yet in this thread!)
You could sign the letter "Your Astronomer Friend".
I have used this strategy successfully at least twice in the past,
once anonymously and once including my name,
where I offered to chip in on any light shielding costs.
Only if this considerate strategy doesn't work should violence be an option.
Mike
P.S. The Career 707 is a great air rifle, powerful and accurate.
BUT it is very loud!
(Any mufflers available legally in the USA?)
Best, Mike
CHASLX200
>Date: 9/30/2004 9:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <d3631e6d.04093...@posting.google.com>
I had my sound snuffer sneaked in the USA , for my Logun MK11 ...
Chas P.
Sky-High
> >My favorite. But Gorilla Glue might be more permanent if it gets time
> >to set....
>
> Bottomline, these sorts of solutions are nice fantasies, not real solutions.
> The real solution is just to discuss the situation with the neighbor.
>
> jon
Fantasy my ass…
Just ask my neighbor. After the dope replaced the first fixture that I
rendered inoperable, he has not replaced the non-functioning second. I
have not seen a light from his yard in over a month now.
-sh
nos...@nospam.com
Sky-High <my...@cheerful.com> says...
What is the US legal situation concerning these high=powerd airguns?
Roger Halstead
Air guns? None.
Damage to someone elses property could be expensive (and time
consuming) if proven. Done even with an air gun might be a felony.
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
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