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Shiver me tripod, but that was a fine yarn, matey! :-)
- Matt
>... Pyxis is her small and stubby mast...
Pyxis is the compass (though I doubt Jason had one). According to Levy,
"Pyxis... used to be Malus, Argo's mast, before Lacaille made a compass out
of it."
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"I know that I am mortal and the creature of a day; but when I
search out the massed wheeling circles of the stars, my feet no
longer touch the earth, but, side by side with Zeus himself, I
take my fill of ambrosia, the food of the gods." -- Ptolemy
Yes, as a matter of fact I checked Allen (_Star_Names:
_Their_Lore_and_Meaning_, reprinted by Dover in 1983) before I posted.
Allen, you, and I all agree that a compass is an anachronism in the
Argo, so I will stick with the classic interpretation.
Sometimes the modern interpretations are neat; who was the
constellation illustrator a few decades ago who pointed out
pictorially that Ursa Major was obviously a polar bear? And Ursa
Minor a teddy bear, for that matter.
And there are a few relatively recent constellations that the
I. A. U. threw out, that I rather miss; notably Felis (the cat) and
Noctua (the night owl). I like both as critters, and besides, there
is a wonderful science-fiction variant on the familiar nursery rhyme,
that begins "The owl and the pussycat went into space / In a modified
Jupiter-C ..."
Michelle
> "Avast, ye scurvy swabs, the solar wind be fair! 'Tis for far
> Centaurus we sail!" Thus I replied to a friend's EMailed comment,
> that with the eye patches we often wear, deep-sky observers look like
> pirates. Yet though a chorus of hearty "Arrrrr!"s greeted me at
> Fremont Peak on January 10, 1997, I had better things to do than hoist
> the Jolly Roger.
Dare I ask what your favourite object was? Most difficult?
Are you now going to work through the Hubble Guide star catalog?
Peter
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Jay,
Congratulations on the completion of your ambitious observing goal.
I'm sure you must feel a great sense of satisfaction, and your article
was a joy to read.
From these parts (basically, just south of Phoenix), Canopus is
a common sight in the wintertime, and fortuately, my observatory has
a good southern sky all the way to the horizon. Still, we don't do
a lot of galaxy hunting that low, mostly because it's just easier to
find the ones farther north.
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Favorite... Hmn, there are lots. Bright things with lots of detail, such
as...
M31 -- I chased down some globulars in it with the C-14 once. It is
always fun to see whether I can make out dust lanes, or NGC 206.
M42/43 -- One night I was observing double stars with a four-inch
refractor, and decided to take a look at M42 just for a break,
and was marveling at the detail, and then realized
I hadn't changed eyepieces; I was looking at details in
the nebula at 250x, limited by diffraction only.
M45 -- The Merope Nebula is not hard in decent sky, but it is always
tough to decide whether any other fuzz I see is dew on the optics,
or scattering in the air or eye, or really nebula.
M8 -- Summer's Orion Nebula, full of detail.
NGC 6822 -- I am always fond of showing off this one in small telescopes,
particularly to folks who think you need a big Dobson to
see it.
The Veil Nebula -- The eastern and western arcs are bright enough not to
be too difficult, but there is a lot of stuff in the
middle that is harder to see.
NGC 253 -- Rich and detailed.
I could go on, I won't...
Most difficult? I think S147, the "other" Taurus supernova remnant.
The Fornax and Sculptor Dwarf Galaxies would be tied for second.
These are all low-surface-brightness objects, for which dark sky and a
large exit pupil matter most. Of course, even for objects of high
surface brightness, insufficient aperture can make for difficulties
with faint ones. However, a C-14 certainly has enough aperture for a
survey like mine; perhaps even an 8-inch would do it.
> Are you now going to work through the Hubble Guide star catalog?
No, though I have been looking at lots of double stars lately. I
could always get more aperture and go for fainter stuff, but I always
seem to run out of aperture before the universe runs out of objects.
I find I can push my skills just as well by using small telescopes
instead of large ones. Or, if I get time, money and initiative, it
would be fun to travel to more southerly latitudes and look at some of
the stuff I can't see from central California.
Argo Navis was split up by the first cartographer of the southern skies,
Lacliade (? - forgive my spelling as I don't have a reference book with me) in
the 1700's. This was formalised by the IAU in the 1930's.
It always struck me as absurd as having bits of a ship - like cutting up Mensa
in legs and tops and such. I think it would be a good move to reinstate Argo
Navis. It would cover some 1800 square degrees of sky, but some constellation
has to be the biggest. The next biggest would then come in at 1300 square
degrees.
And while we are at it, Scorpio should be given back its claws, and Libra
abolished - that would worry the astrologers.
>...
> Argo Navis was split up by the first cartographer of the southern skies,
> Lacliade (? - forgive my spelling as I don't have a reference book with me)
Lacaille
> in the 1700's. This was formalised by the IAU in the 1930's.
>
> ... I think it would be a good move to reinstate Argo Navis...
Well I'm afraid its too late for that now officially. It would mess up too
much software ;-( But there's no reason us amateurs can't pretend. Or at
least teach the historical connection of the four parts to the original.
>And while we are at it, Scorpio should be given back its claws, and Libra
>abolished - that would worry the astrologers.
Careful here Bill, you've been hanging around with astrologers for too
long, we astronomers refer to this constellation as Scorpius! :)
Perry Vlahos
>Argo Navis was split up by the first cartographer of the southern skies,
>Lacliade
Sounds like a Gallic name to me -- and, aftter all, if Gaul was
divided...
>
>And while we are at it, Scorpio should be given back its claws, and Libra
>abolished - that would worry the astrologers.
I doubt it -- they never look at the stars, and anyway their "signs"
have no relationship to the constellations.
Personally, I'd like to see Serpens made whole...
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> M45 -- The Merope Nebula is not hard in decent sky, but it is always
> tough to decide whether any other fuzz I see is dew on the optics,
> or scattering in the air or eye, or really nebula.
Move several degrees. If it was dew or high cloud all other field stars in the
general vicinity would also show fuzz. But they usually don't, and you know
that you have seen it.
The trouble is, they always all show some adjacent glow, for one of
the reasons I cited or another, even on a clear, dry night. One needs
a differential measurement of how much is present, or a pattern of
glow that is non-symmetric about the star(s) in question; the latter
is one reason why the Merope nebula is easier than the rest of the
Pleiades nebulosity.