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Any comments or reviews about TAL-150K telescope?

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edenet

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Jan 22, 2003, 8:05:34 AM1/22/03
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Hi, I am about to enter the world of astronomy and I consider buying a
TAL-150K telescope. Any coments for this?

Regards, Nikos.


andrea tasselli

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Jan 22, 2003, 3:02:14 PM1/22/03
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"edenet" <nkary...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<b0m506$18na$1...@ulysses.noc.ntua.gr>...

> Hi, I am about to enter the world of astronomy and I consider buying a
> TAL-150K telescope. Any coments for this?
>
> Regards, Nikos.

Get something else.

Andrea T.

My Astronomy Pages at:
http://www.geocities.com/andreatax/index.htm

Paul

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Jan 24, 2003, 1:01:04 PM1/24/03
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Right and wrong, a TAL-200K offers more if you can afford the money.
Forget also AT's review on cloudynights, only his remarks on the mount
are somewhat valid. But even that has changed since his review: the new
models have a better mount with stepper motors and a polar alignment
scope. Within a month or so, the Skywatcher/Synta H-EQ5 will ship en
masse and some TAL dealers offer the 200K (or 150K) with this mount too.

Make sure you get a warranty and proof of perfect collimation though
from your dealer. Adjusting the secondary/corrector can only be done
with specialised equipment. AT fiddled with the secondary of the 200K in
his review (and had perhaps a misaligned secondary in the first place),
hence the bad results. The primary can be adjusted easily in the newer
versions. Happy with my 200K since more than a year.

Paul

ValeryD

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Jan 26, 2003, 4:28:50 AM1/26/03
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Paul <pbor...@tiscalinet.be> wrote in message news:<b0rv19$hnp$1...@naxos.belnet.be>...

> Right and wrong, a TAL-200K offers more if you can afford the money.
> Forget also AT's review on cloudynights, only his remarks on the mount
> are somewhat valid. But even that has changed since his review: the new
> models have a better mount with stepper motors and a polar alignment
> scope. Within a month or so, the Skywatcher/Synta H-EQ5 will ship en
> masse and some TAL dealers offer the 200K (or 150K) with this mount too.
>
> Make sure you get a warranty and proof of perfect collimation though
> from your dealer. Adjusting the secondary/corrector can only be done
> with specialised equipment. AT fiddled with the secondary of the 200K in
> his review (and had perhaps a misaligned secondary in the first place),
> hence the bad results. The primary can be adjusted easily in the newer
> versions. Happy with my 200K since more than a year.
>
> Paul

I tested a TAL200K twice and my opinion is well corresponds to what
A.T. wrote in his CN review. You should ask _russian_ amateurs if they
are positive about TAL200K. Absolute most of them are not. Prefrences
there are: Maks (MCT and MN), Newton and refractors. Only a few, who have
positive opinion and even less, who would like to buy such an instrument.
Even if it well collimated, it has it's own list of disadvantages and can
be only an entry level scope.

Also, if a TAL200K will be ceased in production (there were plans for 8" Maks)
and your scope will loss a collimation in correcor, then who will restore it?

Smaller Mak (say, Meade 7" or Intes 7" ) even if slightly more expensive are
much better alternative to TAL200K and any 5"-6" Mak from Intes, Orion (UK)
etc also are an excellent alternatives to TAL150K.

TALXXXK - all are dead lock way (branch) in a telescope evolution.
It has a little sense that years, when it was difficult to make aspherical
optics and large meniscuses. These days it has only anekdotical perspectives.
The method these scopes were promoted (exceed in brightness 9.25" SCT!, shows
12-13 bands on Jupiter etc) says enough about this scope "advantages".


V.D.

Siegfried Gonzi

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Jan 26, 2003, 4:50:36 AM1/26/03
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ValeryD wrote:

> Smaller Mak (say, Meade 7" or Intes 7" ) even if slightly more expensive are
> much better alternative to TAL200K and any 5"-6" Mak from Intes, Orion (UK)
> etc also are an excellent alternatives to TAL150K.
>
> TALXXXK - all are dead lock way (branch) in a telescope evolution.
> It has a little sense that years, when it was difficult to make aspherical
> optics and large meniscuses. These days it has only anekdotical perspectives.
> The method these scopes were promoted (exceed in brightness 9.25" SCT!, shows
> 12-13 bands on Jupiter etc) says enough about this scope "advantages".

Hi:

This is interesting that some people say the Tal's are not that good. I
can vaguely remember that the press is not bad concerning the Tal,
especially in Germany.

What would be more interesting for me are some words who is responsible
for the TAL design and from what company does it come from. I mean we
are used to get high quality optics from Russia and the Former East.
What makes the difference here I assume is the fact that opticans from
Russia and beyond are their own bosses, they are not forced by some big
company and slavery-holders from the West to produce low quality goods
as we know it from China and the like.

So, why would anyone produce poor products especially if they know they
can only survive when they sell products which satisfy both parties:

a) There are the customer from the West who gets a high quality product
to a reasonable price.

b) There is the optican from the Ukraine or Russia and beyond who sells
a good product and in return gets a good amount of money as opposed to
the average income of his country. Eventually he will strive for
becoming well off.

Or have a lot of opticans from the East learned from the West how
capitalism actually works?


S. Gonzi


andrea tasselli

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Jan 26, 2003, 2:13:28 PM1/26/03
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Paul <pbor...@tiscalinet.be> wrote in message news:<b0rv19$hnp$1...@naxos.belnet.be>...
> Right and wrong, a TAL-200K offers more if you can afford the money.
> Forget also AT's review on cloudynights, only his remarks on the mount
> are somewhat valid. But even that has changed since his review: the new
> models have a better mount with stepper motors and a polar alignment
> scope. Within a month or so, the Skywatcher/Synta H-EQ5 will ship en
> masse and some TAL dealers offer the 200K (or 150K) with this mount too.
>
> Make sure you get a warranty and proof of perfect collimation though
> from your dealer. Adjusting the secondary/corrector can only be done
> with specialised equipment. AT fiddled with the secondary of the 200K in
> his review (and had perhaps a misaligned secondary in the first place),
> hence the bad results. The primary can be adjusted easily in the newer
> versions. Happy with my 200K since more than a year.
>
> Paul
>

Hey, happy user Paul. My review holds its ground and do you want to
know why? Because the TAL200K is crap and so it is the 150K. Now, get
me those high resolution images if you can. I'll be dead before you
can pull anything even near to what a 6" mak does.

Farewell

Karytianos Nikolaos

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Jan 27, 2003, 3:15:50 AM1/27/03
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Does the same apply for the TAL-2M telescope? Do you have any comments for
this one? I know that it is a completelly different telescope, but it is a
low cost one.

--
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Karytianos Nikolaos,
Mineral Resources Engineer,
Greece.
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andrea tasselli

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Jan 27, 2003, 10:37:05 AM1/27/03
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Karytianos Nikolaos <nkary...@mailbox.gr> wrote in message news:<Xns9310689C758A9ka...@147.102.222.230>...

> Does the same apply for the TAL-2M telescope? Do you have any comments for
> this one? I know that it is a completelly different telescope, but it is a
> low cost one.

The TAL-2M is a very good newtonian, especially so if compared to the
current chinese production. Too bad they didn't go on an introduced a
line of high performance newtonians.

jerry warner

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Feb 2, 2003, 1:45:06 AM2/2/03
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I would not buy a dead Tal cat!
Every Tal anything Ive seen is total junk.
You would be better to go to a bar, get drunk, lose your
billfold, and think it over first.
-Jerry
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