SCIENTIST's HIMALAYAN MISSION PROVIDES UNWELCOME PROOF : GLACIERS ARE DYING. from the Times, with appropriate comments from a True Geologist
Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
From The Times
December 5, 2009
SCIENTIST's HIMALAYAN MISSION PROVIDES UNWELCOME PROOF : GLACIERS ARE
DYING
Jeremy Page, South Asia Correspondent
Quote
Inching over the treacherous surface of the Rathong glacier, almost
5,000 metres (16,400ft) high in the eastern Himalayas, Dr Shresth
Tayal stooped to inspect a 7m steel rod he buried vertically in the
ice six months ago.
After a decade studying Himalayan glaciers, he had expected to find at
least half the rod exposed — an alarming enough indication of how fast
the Rathong is melting — but even he was surprised by what he found
last week.
“Six metres in six months,” he cried, breathing hard in the thin
mountain air as The Times and the rest of his team stepped gingerly
between hidden crevasses and gushing rivulets of freshly melted ice.
“It’s pathetic,” he said. “The glacier is dying.” etc
§ full story at http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/copenhagen/article6945249.ece
Unquote
Sirs,
Pathetic to see on the one hand the evidence supplied by glaciologist
Dr Shresth Tayal, working in the field & on the other hand the denial
from India’s own Environment Ministry, unable it seems to read the
writing on the wall.
Indeed it appears clearly that all projections made by the IPCC have
been overtaken by the rate of changes taking place, demonstrating that
their only concern it to quieten the populations. Hence in views of
reports demonstrating the same trend & coming from all parts of the
world, IPCC 's estimates for 2035 should read for 2010, in my view.
Further still, and this must noted, all projections again are made on
the assumptions that present Geology theories are correct, especially
the ones related to the genesis of water & secondly to the stability
of Earth on Ecliptics since beginning. I am afraid such convictions
are erroneous, and in fact underlaid by main religious sects ' dogmas
relatives to the creation of Earth ( as all planets) on present orbit.
The True Geology demonstrates that we are drifting away on the
biological life range of that planet at grand pace indeed, without
possibility of return. Some of the consequences are less
precipitations in high altitude & constant drop of the water column in
all aquifers of the world, since contrarily to what is believed
widely, the source of fresh water is not in the clouds but in the
Mantle... ( such model, I have developed previously)
Yours faithfully
Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer
Exploration Geologist
"True Geology" Foundation Document
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/69327
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> From The Times
> December 5, 2009
> SCIENTIST's HIMALAYAN MISSION PROVIDES UNWELCOME PROOF : GLACIERS ARE
> DYING
> Jeremy Page, South Asia Correspondent
>
> Quote
> Inching over the treacherous surface of the Rathong glacier, almost
> 5,000 metres (16,400ft) high in the eastern Himalayas, Dr Shresth
> Tayal stooped to inspect a 7m steel rod he buried vertically in the
> ice six months ago.
>
> After a decade studying Himalayan glaciers, he had expected to find at
> least half the rod exposed — an alarming enough indication of how fast
> the Rathong is melting — but even he was surprised by what he found
> last week.
>
> “Six metres in six months,” he cried, breathing hard in the thin
> mountain air as The Times and the rest of his team stepped gingerly
> between hidden crevasses and gushing rivulets of freshly melted ice.
Sounds like a typical enviro nut going in for the kill with
perception management instead of science AGAIN.
Like 6 months is exactly one half of one year.
You know like wait another 6 months and then spring, summer,
autumn and winter will have had their chance to work on the
numbers magically!
Climate science needs more transparency.
Thats easy:
1. Put all your emails on public ftp servers.
2. Put all the raw climate data in public ftp servers so that it can be peer
reviewed.
3. Disengage from managing public perceptions of climate and stick to
science.
5c. Stop loosing numbers and making up numbers.
6. I can count, so I'm never going to trust climate science ever again or
their numbers. All climate papers will be viewed with skepticism until its
backed up by dozens of other reports produced independently by independent
teams that are not in contact with each other.
69. Obey the law and service ALL FOI requests.
gb
<australia.mining-pion...@neuf.fr> wrote:
> From The Times
> December 5, 2009
> SCIENTIST's HIMALAYAN MISSION PROVIDES UNWELCOME PROOF : GLACIERS ARE
> DYING
> Jeremy Page, South Asia Correspondent
>
> Quote
> Inching over the treacherous surface of the Rathong glacier, almost
> 5,000 metres (16,400ft) high in the eastern Himalayas, Dr Shresth
> Tayal stooped to inspect a 7m steel rod he buried vertically in the
> ice six months ago.
>
> After a decade studying Himalayan glaciers, he had expected to find at
> least half the rod exposed — an alarming enough indication of how fast
> the Rathong is melting — but even he was surprised by what he found
> last week.
>
> “Six metres in six months,” he cried, breathing hard in the thin
> mountain air as The Times and the rest of his team stepped gingerly
> between hidden crevasses and gushing rivulets of freshly melted ice.
>
> “It’s pathetic,” he said. “The glacier is dying.” etc
They will solve global warming with more cameras in the streets in the
UK and with more agressive big brother world with guns in the USA.
Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
Okay, another one of those naysayers ...
Who cares, the evidence unfolding under their very eyes is unable to
sway the sectarian 'beuuliefs" of those denialists !
Unfortunately the reality is catching up fast, with IPCC 2030
projections already at our door step.
Answer to gb
***************
Global Warming will be solved necessarily one day, simply due to the
petering of those energy resources at the source of it, but contrarily
to the prevalent ideas peddled by the Fraudulent Geology, we will NOT
return to case one;
When the Global Warming will be offset, if it does not take too long,
we will find ourselves in a very much colder environment further away
on the Ecliptics, with fresh water as the more sought for commodity.
(no time to explain why here)
With kind regards
jpturcaud
Eric Stevens
http://www.thegwpf.org/the-observatory/220-himalayan-glacier-melt-timetable-qmistakeq.html
The UN panel on climate change warning that Himalayan glaciers could
melt to a fifth of current levels by 2035 is wildly inaccurate, an
academic says. J Graham Cogley, a professor at Ontario Trent
University, says he believes the UN authors got the date from an
earlier report wrong by more than 300 years. He is astonished they
"misread 2350 as 2035". The authors deny the claims.
Leading glaciologists say the report has caused confusion and "a
catalogue of errors in Himalayan glaciology".
The Himalayas hold the planet's largest body of ice outside the polar
caps - an estimated 12,000 cubic kilometres of water. They feed many
of the world's great rivers - the Ganges, the Indus, the Brahmaputra -
on which hundreds of millions of people depend.
In its 2007 report, the Nobel Prize-winning Inter-governmental Panel
on Climate Change (IPCC) said: "Glaciers in the Himalayas are receding
faster than in any other part of the world and, if the present rate
continues, the likelihood of them disappearing by the year 2035 and
perhaps sooner is very high if the Earth keeps warming at the current
rate. "Its total area will likely shrink from the present 500,000 to
100,000 square kilometres by the year 2035," the report said. It
suggested three quarters of a billion people who depend on glacier
melt for water supplies in Asia could be affected.
But Professor Cogley has found a 1996 document by a leading
hydrologist, VM Kotlyakov, that mentions 2350 as the year by which
there will be massive and precipitate melting of glaciers. "The
extrapolar glaciation of the Earth will be decaying at rapid,
catastrophic rates - its total area will shrink from 500,000 to
100,000 square kilometres by the year 2350," Mr Kotlyakov's report
said.
Mr Cogley says it is astonishing that none of the 10 authors of the
2007 IPCC report could spot the error and "misread 2350 as 2035". "I
do suggest that the glaciological community might consider advising
the IPCC about ways to avoid such egregious errors as the 2035 versus
2350 confusion in the future," says Mr Cogley.
He said the error might also have its origins in a 1999 news report on
retreating glaciers in the New Scientist magazine.
Source: BBC News.
Eric Stevens
Tom McDonald
<snip>
After reading the article, I don't see where Cogley made the
direct connection between the 1996 document and the 2007 IPCC
report. ISTM that he may well have cherry-picked the 2996 report
because because its numbers are the same numbers as those of the
2007 report, only in a different order.
To know whether this is just a coincidence, or incompetence on
the part of the IPCC report writers, one would have to see the
specific reference from the 2007 report.
The other linked articles in this thread all seem to show actual
retreat of Himalayan glaciers, not normal seasonal shrinkage
followed by re-expansion. IOW, from the information presented in
this thread, Cogley's observation is unsupported in any
meaningful way.
I think we can all agree that scientific and political
sectarianism exists in the climate debate, on all sides. The best
way to handle that sectarianism, I think, is to use cogent,
relevant, and most of all well-supported (and referenced)
information. In the present case, I am not convinced that
Cogley's discovery of a potential association means anything
about the actual state of the science wrt Roof of the World
glaciers.
--
Tom "Go Pack" McDonald
Eric Stevens
I don't know whether Cogley is correct or not but he makes an
interesting point. Too often I have seen errors (or outright lies)
passed down to the fifth generation at which point they become
accepted as gospel. Having seen the willingness of people in this
debate to uncritically suck up anything which supports their own view
it would not surprise me at all if 2350 became 2035 without anyone
noticing.
Glaciers retreat not because they are melting faster at the bottom but
because they are not being pushed down so fast by snow and ice at the
top. Their present retreat is most likely due to reduced deposition
several centuries ago.
Eric Stevens
Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:02:23 -0600, Tom McDonald
Eric,
The Glaciers in the Himalaya are not only receding but as well losing
in thickness, they are melting faster indeed with Moulins observed
on surface now, with reemergence (or not) of the flow in great
quantity at the head water of the Glacier. This is creating
potentially dangerous glacial lakes locked behind moraines, and which
continually filling on top of communities living below in the
valleys, are certainty of coming catastrophes. ( Ladakh, Bhutan,
Nepal)
In case of NO reemergence of the melt water some hidden storage lakes
can form within the Glacier, and as was the case in 1956 in the
Alpes, Chamonix valley, a 200 000 cubic m of water sudden burst
destroyed an entire village.
To both Eric & Tom,
Really your answers demonstrate your ill-founded confidence in a
complete fraudulent Geology, since you are implying that 2350 could be
in fact some IPCC estimate for Himalaya glaciers disappearance. In
fact, your logic processing is working on the assumption of a linear
unfolding of time, with all things here below on this plane EVOLVING
at the present observed rate : atomic element half-life, erosion of
oxydes/carbonates/mudstones, & of course stability of Earth on
present orbital position on Ecliptics with undisguised certitude that
things when are bad will come better anyway. This implying some
certainty of cyclic phases unfolding continuously.
When there are cycles but cycles developing in constant changing &
increasing orbital position within a decreasing anisobaric &
anisothropic environment ( UPL based conclusions)
It means that we are on a end phase of both water & oil resources,
both being abiotic in origin... the initial conditions of life on
Earth with our present biologic hydrogen, oxygen, carbone supported
clocwork ( which we call our body) was made possible by the constant
drift of that very planet passing by the successive positions of the
Genesis of Carbon, the Genesis of Water, the Genesis of Gases then
( of which we are really made) till life as we know it was possible.
Clearly we are going through that life phase at grand pace indeed, and
the destruction of Glaciers the world over is the demonstration that
we are losing more & more moisture in high altitude making
precipitations more & more weaker.
The True Geology, contrarily to the Oxford based present one, is
developing a larger perspective where planets are born in turn from
the Mother star ( a dark body by the way although evidence of the
contrary) , with satellites born too in phase as final parting of a
surface tension breaking point being reached by Star & immediately on
calving, then the continuous drifting away driven by the rotation of
the Star indeed... and for us right to the position where we are now
having past the positions in turn of Earth younger sisters Mercury &
Venus.... This intelligence of Our System & both its past & future is
so diametrically opposite to the accepted views that any chance of
such genial approach being accepted by the Universities clueless
parasites in place is nill indeed ! ( particularly from the ANU,
Monash, Curtin retards) This does not matter in fact since reality is
catching up fast with what people refuse in some cases to even
consider, and the True Geology approach is the only intelligence of
coming events allowing societies the world over to take in full
knowledge the appropriate conservative measures of DOWNRIGHT
SURVIVAL !
... playing as do the medical vermins with vaccines & an alleged
danger of a pandemy, (while Flu in all cases with natural & live food
can be cured overnight) , playing as well as do the warmonger with war
games & conquest plans, playing as do the Islamists with dreams of
conversion of the rest of the world to their clueless dark-ages
Samaritan Jews ' founded sect, playing as do the Pharisees Jews to
submit the rest of the World to their control & whim through
subversive tactics involving terror as the 10 millions French
Holocaust; the 100 millions Russian Holocaust, the Lusitania, Pearl
Harbour, & recent WTC 9/11 psy-ops ETC all of this is too late
indeed ... New paradigms of survival will have to be found with as the
True Geology rightly anticipate ;
1) Turning of Australia into a Great Sandy Desert
2) Immediate sea rises of up to 5 m of sea level next year resulting
from Antarctica ineluctable volcanism under the Inlandsis
3) Then as the Earth continues to drift away, amazing strength of met
vortex reaching reaching 400 km/h for cyclones
4) Loss of moisture at accelerated pace then with disappearance of
oceans then, with fresh water resources being of most vital
importance
5) Cold climate making life in the higher latitudes impossible even in
winter, in desolate expanses of lunar like sceneries, making then
survivors retreat to lower latitude, tropics & equator for survival
Phases 1 & 2 of that scenario could be effective next year & certainly
in all cases before 2012
With best regards
Jean-Paul Turcaud
Exploration Geologist
Founder of the True Geology
TacAN
>> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:02:23 -0600, Tom McDonald
>
>
Perhaps an opportune moment to ask you .. :-)
What is your understanding of the Mayan 21 December 2012 date?
and the so-called "end of the world" mentalities that abound at the moment.
I have read a number of articles - and certainly much of it varies from
the extreme (ie: the end of everything) to "absolutely nothing will happen".
I have some considerable respect for your understanding of geology and
would value your opinion.
Thankyou
Graham
Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True Geology
Hi Graham,
In a few words, something will happen since contrarily to what the
fraudulent Geology pretends ( as well as the JIC sect sustaining such
erroneous view) we are not stable on Ecliptics . Hence Global Warming
equates accelerated drift in a always decreasing pressure Cosmic
Environment ( according to UPL in True Geology) , with the direct
consequences tied up with this, in clear petering of native fresh
water output ( the one rising from the Mantle) and feeding the
aquifers of the world, as well as petering of oil & gaz filling/
refilling ( as well due to cracking process deep below in the Mantle)
trapped by natural impermeable domes. Hence famines, wars, conquest &
survival of the fittest or strongest... soon !
Also due to melting of both Polar caps, and most likely volcanism
emergent under the Antarctica, huge seas will eventually migrate to
the open seas creating instability of an Earth having lost its
equilibrium masses at the top ends.
All this will happen soon in despite of clueless Universities
brainwashed cretins basing their soothing estimates on a Stable
Orbital Earth since Creation ( alternatively Accretion / Big Bang
lunacies) till Judgement Day. A new equilibrium will be developed of
course after such upheaval, but for a much more aware & thinned
surviving Humanity indeed !
Practically, you should avoid living on present MSL areas and seek
some higher locations for you & family, especially in Australia. If I
was living there now ( a thing impossible as you know) I would move
to Cooma or anywhere at least above the 60 m mark. I am afraid those
who will survive in the coming years, will be the one able to
consider the impossible, to accept heretic views coming from otherwise
reputable persons, never trust administrations nor governments
'agencies nor Pollies & take survival measures although at present the
Sun is shining in a sky without any clouds.
Last but not least, the Mayans were versed into what could be called
the Eleusis Mysteries of the Ancient Greece, which is made of 3
distinct levels.. this is was incidentally at the root of the Greece
genius of the Classical period. The Mayans knew the first 2 levels and
used them very successfully anticipating to the very day the arrival
of the Spaniards invaders in 1519, as did the Aztecs indeed, with
very dismal consequences to the 3 civilizations living in South
America then. Besides such you might like to read what the Celtic
Saint Marie-Julie Jahenny said of coming days & measures to be taken
http://www.marie-julie-jahenny.fr/ . The anticipating signs are very
clear and coincide with well known phenomenas portent of a coming
encounter with a cosmic body. ( there are mirror site in English) What
is said make senses indeed in term of both Astronomy & Geology.
With kind regards to you my friend
Jean-Paul
Day Brown
> Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times wrote:
>> On Dec 10, 11:01 pm, Eric Stevens <eric.stev...@sum.co.nz> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:02:23 -0600, Tom McDonald
>>
>>
>
>
> Perhaps an opportune moment to ask you .. :-)
>
> What is your understanding of the Mayan 21 December 2012 date?
> and the so-called "end of the world" mentalities that abound at the
> moment.
so high it looks like a self fulfilling prophecy.
> I have read a number of articles - and certainly much of it varies from
> the extreme (ie: the end of everything) to "absolutely nothing will
> happen".
>
> I have some considerable respect for your understanding of geology and
> would value your opinion.
Ballantine and Oswald in "Did the Indo-European Priesthood commit
Treason in the era of PIE Unity" show us some computer output tables of
total Solar eclipses in the mid 6th mil. When I asked about this on
astronomy lists, they said it was bullshit. Said you cant calculate the
position of the moon before the 4th.
Well, OK. But why? Is there any other reason than some kind of intrinsic
instability in the orbit, and that being the case, some kind of global
natural disaster as either a cause or result?
As may be. But I dont see how anyone can know the particulars, like the
level of the sea, weather patterns, and/or evolutionary adaptations
among a myriad of life forms.
Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True Geology
*> Well, OK. But why? Is there any other reason than some kind of
intrinsic
*> instability in the orbit, and that being the case, some kind of
global
*> natural disaster as either a cause or result?
*>
*> As may be. But I dont see how anyone can know the particulars, like
the
*> level of the sea, weather patterns, and/or evolutionary adaptations
*> among a myriad of life forms.
Dear Day,
First of all, are you a relative of Dan Brown ? I really enjoyed his
Da Vinci Code book.
Secondly, in True Geology approach, based on the UPL or Universal
Pressure Laws whose specific gradient varies decreasingly according to
the distance of a planet from Mother star, the stability is certain
since the driving force generating both rotation & revolution is the
fact of the center Star's own rotation. In clear all planets are
drifting since inception & ultimately reach their complete oblivion
beyond Pluto with NO return of matter indeed, since Matter is Void in
fact ( but more of this in the book I am writing on the subject)
Anyway the fate of each planet in turn is to go through the range of
life & when the conditions of such are not met anymore due to the
planet continuous skid, exit the life, as will the case is that the
Earth ! ... contrarily to the alleged scientists developing, by
extrapolation of the JIC* sects ' dogmas, the idea of extended
durability of Earth through the Column of Ages on present orbital
position,Such crass ignorance of reality is unable of course to
account, except by some magic wand trick, to the discrimination of
atomic elements & the disappearing of some already whose niche appear
on the Mendeleev table, as well for the understanding of relief,
particularly of the intrusive crystalline & extrusive crypto
formations, with the erosion of such in sand, clay & heavy sands etc
since indeed water is unable to erode Aluminium Silicates
* JIC judeo-islamo-christian sects
I understand that like most, your are concerned by the fate of your
own as well as the fate of that planet... only the True Geology gives
a correct answer since being able to account for the past, it is able
then to project into the future. The drama is the fact the scientists
rely on complete inept tools for understanding our world, both based
on logic, i.e. deductive & inductive logic. Although such process are
useful to settle most of everyday chores & help say doing the usual
maintenance & the tiding up in the house, the workshop, the
nations, such instruments are unable to reach where perception of
other levels of reality are necessary. Just as an example, there is
a quantum leap between the steam engine rolling locomotive on iron
tracks & the jet engine pushing plane in the sky. Likewise, at the
jet engine point in time, none of you except an infinite minority is
able to anticipate & still conceive the possibility of crafts being on
orbit at sea level. Peer reviews, consensus, circular referencing etc
do not produce anticipative visions & synthesis knowledge of our
world, only stagnation of thinking & stratification in an infinite
array of unrelated disciplines.
The coming years are inevitably going to be eras of mutation from JIC
sects ' centered thinking, as the resources both in water & oil are
going to peter out ineluctably, for reasons tied up to the decreasing
say Cosmic Density resulting from Earth sliding into lower gradient of
energy. Survival will imply, and at grand pace indeed, the discovery
of new resources to slow down that Earth balloon from bursting, and as
you probably ignore, Volcanoes & Earthquakes are safety valves
preventing such explosion to occur.
Day Brown
> First of all, are you a relative of Dan Brown ? I really enjoyed his
> Da Vinci Code book.
Passover Plot" for a credible explanation of what we know of Jesus.
I did see the movie last week, which I hear is very different. That had
very little to do with cryptographic analysis of scripture but did spoze
there were hidden elites contending for power. It was a token of the
times also that ultimate power now rests in female hands, a message I've
noticed in other films, like 'Dogma', in books like Perera's 'Celtic
Queen Maeve and Addiction", and the current exhibition in New York of
Cucuteni pottery and artifacts.
But as for the astronomy. I sometimes experience de jevu. I also read of
Quantum Physics experiments, Feynman's lectures on physics, and see how
it all comports with the Vedic notion that I exist on a projected matrix
out of, as 18th Century Bengalese Saint Ramprasad said, of the mind of
Kali. His name for the Great Goddess.
My matrix seems to have the astronomical bodies you refer to, but I dont
know that they obey the same rules, or have the same effect. Archeology
has been progressively exposing error and deceit in the record, so I do
not have all that much confidence in my sources. Much of it may be no
more than random coincidence made obvious by the pattern recognition
algorithms in the brain which would otherwise pick up on the
inconsistencies. But I cant help wondering.
Whether the chart of solar eclipses in the mid 6th mil shown by Oswald
and Ballantine are correct or not, Ryan and Pitman, "Noah's Flood" show
us a catastrophic flood of the Euxine basin in that same era, 5600 BC,
which they say is when the sea level, which had been rising with the
melting ice age, broke thru to open up the Bosporus. And other sources
show us the area has always been a very active tectonic zone.
I can see how tidal forces during a solar or lunar eclipse would pass
the tipping point and set off another cascade of quakes there. But this
may, or may not, be a relevant factor in the world you see. However, as
I say, I dont have the confidence in my sources to be worried more about
the future of the world I exist on. I'm already 71, wont be around all
that much longer anyway.
Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
*> I can see how tidal forces during a solar or lunar eclipse would
pass
*> the tipping point and set off another cascade of quakes there. But
this
*> may, or may not, be a relevant factor in the world you see.
However, as
*> I say, I dont have the confidence in my sources to be worried more
about
*> the future of the world I exist on. I'm already 71, wont be around
all
*> that much longer anyway.
Why Day, you are not that old. Potentially you have still 30 years
ahead, this is if you look carefully about your bio vehicle.
Why not see 120 years as a possibility, while remaining free from any
ills & ailments.
A great Australian Mining man said once : All Dizeazezzz are
Dezerved !
I tend to agree, all the more since in my book Health is at all times
deserved indeed !
Although I am much younger than you, I hope you will recover your
moral, you are a bright mind & have many worthy things to say as
yet.
Regarding the confidence you might give to sources, I appreciate your
are querying their validity.... too many people take at face value
what is advertised as Gospel truth by so many authorities
It really puzzles me to see some many Gogos, especially in the
Gogology pretentious scie000nce, unable to question the evident
incoherence of it all... it makes sense that in a synthetic approach,
although in details some aspects might remain in shadow, that the
WHOLE CONSTRUCTION SHOULD OFFER NO FAULT. This is not the case, and
although that mad boat called Geology is taking water from all parts,
the Pundits ' band inside is still playing Walzing Mathilda, and
still pretending all is fine. Do you have, my friend, from you long
experience then, have reached that wisdom which makes you balk in
sheer horror say, at the pretension of Carbonates huge deposits come
from Fossils reduction ? ( just to take one example amongst the 1 000
of definitive Oxford backed lunacies )
All the best to you.
jpturcaud
Day Brown
field trip myself convinced me Genesis was fulla shit. But it aint been
often that I got to collect the data myself.
I remember also, in grade school back in the 50's how plate tectonics
was regarded as a crank theory by academic geology. So, I wonder what
bullshit they are still foisting upon us.
Then too, there's the question of, if you do know the truth, what that
is worth. Schitt still happens to foil the best of plans based on the
deepest understanding. Wisdom is useful, but not sufficient. You still
need luck.
And yes, I do feel lucky to arrive at my age in as good a shape as can
be expected. But that's not good enuf to ever expect to be laid again by
a woman young enuf to have the hormones to really be into it. How would
you feel if you thot you'd never get laid again in the next 30 years?
I would not mind at all, moving on to another form of existence, or no
existence at all. I have enuf wisdom to know where the Buddha was coming
from; as I recall, he lived to be 80. And of course, in his time, young
women felt it was good kharma to fuck Bodhisattvahs. I have yet to meet
any today who have the same attitude. So, what is wisdom really worth?
Kucha was infamous for their sexual customs; the brothels were all owned
by the city. The queen was a defacto madam. The Tocharian frescos of
Bhodisattvahs at the Sibushi monastery north of town are not the usual
smiling little pot bellied buddhas, but all tall dark handsome stud
muffins fingering their pearls in their ringlets. Getting pearls to the
Taklamakhan desert musta been a trip.
I expect you'll see cultures run by women like at Kucha again, but I do
not expect to live long enuf to see it. If you do, you'll remember this
thread. Another thing I see about GW, is that while men are loyal, women
are adaptable. So cultures that have more women in power will see what
is coming down faster and take advantage of the changes, while men, as
we see here, rant about the changes they dont like coming down.
Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
*> I did take paleontology as a freshman. Opening Cambrian fossils on
a
*> field trip myself convinced me Genesis was fulla shit. But it aint
been
*> often that I got to collect the data myself.
*>
*> I remember also, in grade school back in the 50's how plate
tectonics
*> was regarded as a crank theory by academic geology. So, I wonder
what
*> bullshit they are still foisting upon us.
*>
Thank you, Day, you really made my day indeed !
( I know why they called you so now)
At least some young & promising young man gifted who has a free-mind
& who is using it !
Well I have your answer on that particular point : ALL PRESENT GEOLOGY
THEORIES ARE BULLSHIT & THIS FROM THE WORD GO !
In fact all planets emerge from their Mother Star in turn & are
skidding on Ecliptics in permanent decreasing energy & pressure Cosmic
Environment ! So much for the Column of Ages which in this light must
be seen in term of Space & Alchemical Transformation ! Just have a
look at some paper I wrote on the True Geology some years back ( I am
working on the book now)
With best & kindest regards
Jean-Paul Turcaud
Founder of the True Geology
~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One Never Forgiven ~
Day Brown
enlightenment from altered states of consciousness backs up what the
Vedas say. Which is that you exist on a "projected matrix", which is but
one of a myriad universes. Since cyberspace is monodimensional, and
there are more than just the three commonly perceived, this one
dimension, the string of bits, can appear in many others. We've no way
of knowing which Matrices received these postings. I've no way of
knowing whether the Matrix I see is the same as that presented to you.
Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
>
*> Grateful of agreement when found. But let me add that spiritual
*> enlightenment from altered states of consciousness backs up what
the
*> Vedas say. Which is that you exist on a "projected matrix", which
is but
*> one of a myriad universes. Since cyberspace is monodimensional, and
*> there are more than just the three commonly perceived, this one
*> dimension, the string of bits, can appear in many others. We've no
way
*> of knowing which Matrices received these postings. I've no way of
*> knowing whether the Matrix I see is the same as that presented to
you.
Thanks for your views to which I thought before replying.
What is footing your reflexion is your background of certitudes, into
which some matrix idea, inspired by the film I suppose, imposed
itself as a reasonable approach to "understand" the world beyond
lurking in the shadows.
Well, your world is a world of materialism into which spiritual
awareness, seen at its best at enlightenment, is the accepted model.
The religious sects of all hairs, including Hinduism with their
celebrated Vedas, give each one different answers with the utmost
authority necessary to impose their materialistic views on the
bleating sheeple. Please notice indeed that the main programs of the
sects is to contact omnipotent forces on both the personal & social
level and act as mediators to talk & intercede in favour of all types
of Human interests. ... yes, the world is covered by Bleating places
where the Skinner 's pigeons experiments are successfully conducted on
human stock. With the JIC (judeo-islamo-christian) sects we have the
Synaqs, the Mosqs, the Churqs, and with the others the Temples where
direct contact with Kali, Boudha, Krishna, Ganesh etc okay ?
That matrix approach of yours in not different & although absent of
course from the Vedas, it conveys the idea that the perceptible world
is only a visible fraction of the one underlying it, where the
mechanisms of equilibrium obviously hold true. Vedas are specific of a
system based on Soma & Soma intake whose key / recipe is now lost !
Jews or neo-jews systems like Christianity (Zealot jews) & Islamism
(Samaritan jews) is based on drug intake, fraudulent intellectual
thieving form the Ancient Science & Genetic manipulation through
either circumcision or blood-oozing carrion feeding for the Goys
( Xians & Slamists) At its best, all sects never reached but the first
level of initiation known & apply by the Greeks in the 3 levels of
Eleusis mysteries ...( whose arcanes are lost, destroyed most
viciously by the Jews' sect of Christians)
Well again, may I refer you to one Eleusis mysteries initiate who was
Plato. In his allegory of the Cavern, he conveys the idea of other
levels of perception, but what he does not say is, that such
understanding cannot be reached except going through initiation, such
as the Eleusis mysteries of which he benefited indeed. The discourses
& philosophical interpretations of Plato 's cavern visions abound but
Never such conclusions, as the one imparted to you here is ever
considered ... as well of course than the path to follow to attain
such height of vision. This is indeed the constant concern of so
called Western Civilizations to prevent direct experiments, since
leading people to realize that all religious sects are empty shell,
and Hence leading the Governments of the world through those mind
controlled tools which are the Bleating sects indeed, to lose their
grip on the control of consciences & people. This is what conducted to
the Inquisition with its millions of tortured victims ( whose leaders
were typical materialist Jews by the way : Torquemada in Spain & St
Dominique Gutzman in France, the permanent inquisition conducted by
the Islam Samaritian Jews ( plaguing the clueless Arabs with their
Islam madness) , and of course the Judean Jews with their Torah
borrowed fraud stolen to Sumer, Chaldea & compiled by Rabbid Esdras
on the return of Babylon ( freed by Atarxerces long hand )
The UPL or Universal Pressure Law, corner stone of the True Geology,
answers nicely your query. You are on present gradient of energy &
pressure then just like a water sprinkler whose water jet represents
your body & humane support for your real self or eternal spirit. If
the conditions of temperature & pressure vary, say pulling yourself
towards Mars, such water jet disappear in thin air & so would it
pulling you towards Venus. Indeed according to the UPL model, there
is not a single point in the Universe where the physical constant are
equals to the rest. We on Earth have the necessary understanding
relative to our present body & its environment, but such will not
remain as that planet drifts at accelerated pace through its life
range... Nothing then prevents some other entities operating in
different realms of perception & even shadowing us, which our limited
senses will of course not detect ( although the animals will)
Finally I have to stress that all religious sects, JIC sects included
of course, are the real enemies of Nature & respect of Nature
harmony... they have as a result of the change of their money in all
types of diseases befalling their followers ... and as a great
Australian Mining Man said once : All dizeazezzz are Dezerved
Jean-Paul Turcaud
Sunny
"Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times"
news:fcde0a15-9b94-4fd2...@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
Finally I have to stress that all religious sects, Celtic and
JIC sects included of course, are the real enemies of
of the change of their money in all types of diseases
Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
sorry for the interference from some Antipodean Tyrwhitt Filth
plaguing internet under Sunnyzecunt alias
*************************************************************************************************************************
Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Exploraiton Geologist
Australia Mining Pioneer
Day Brown
> What is footing your reflexion is your background of certitudes, into
> which some matrix idea, inspired by the film I suppose, imposed
> itself as a reasonable approach to "understand" the world beyond
> lurking in the shadows.
Long before I saw the Matrix, I saw a film version of "An occurrence at
Owl Creek" which has a similar message, but Ambrose Pierce's vision
dates from the 19th century. Then, I came across the Hymns to Kali by
18th century Bengalese Saint Ramprasad, still at the apex of the Vedic
canon before the Brits took over. He said everything you see is part of
a "projected matrix". After the movie came out, its more clear to folks
what he was getting at.
> Well, your world is a world of materialism into which spiritual
> awareness, seen at its best at enlightenment, is the accepted model.
> The religious sects of all hairs, including Hinduism with their
> celebrated Vedas, give each one different answers with the utmost
> authority necessary to impose their materialistic views on the
> bleating sheeple. Please notice indeed that the main programs of the
> sects is to contact omnipotent forces on both the personal & social
> level and act as mediators to talk & intercede in favour of all types
> of Human interests. ... yes, the world is covered by Bleating places
> where the Skinner 's pigeons experiments are successfully conducted on
> human stock. With the JIC (judeo-islamo-christian) sects we have the
> Synaqs, the Mosqs, the Churqs, and with the others the Temples where
> direct contact with Kali, Boudha, Krishna, Ganesh etc okay ?
The vedas predate what we think of as Hinduism by millennia. Hinduism did
to that sacred canon what Catholicism did to the message of Jesus. I
dont try to defend what the masses think; if that's what you call it. As
the Brahmin said to the Bishop:"I dont pray to a stone idol any more
than you pray to a wooden cross." Not that are not simple minds that do.
> That matrix approach of yours in not different & although absent of
> course from the Vedas, it conveys the idea that the perceptible world
> is only a visible fraction of the one underlying it, where the
> mechanisms of equilibrium obviously hold true. Vedas are specific of a
> system based on Soma & Soma intake whose key / recipe is now lost !
Soma has been found by Ethnobotanist RG Wasson. "Persephone's Quest"
came out decades ago, but because of the nature of the Matrix I exist
on, has gone almost entirely unnoticed. But a few points.
He found Ugarit shamen still using Soma. There are rural parts of the
Baltic cultures, Finland, and the Urals, which were never Christianized,
and still have wooden pagan grave markers. Archaeologist Gimbutas found
the Soviets vigorously repressed Christianity, which had not yet reached
these impoverished boonies, and then didnt care what these actual living
pagans thot. The pagans werent trying to convert anyone, so the USSR did
not interfere with their religious practice. Which remains today.
Soma is made from Amanita Muscaria, which the books all tell you is
poison. Well, not egzactly. Shamen mix it with reindeer tallow. You can
order A. Muscaria online, its legal, and slather it with butter, ghee,
or lard. The fatty alkaloids in the shroom which upset the digestive
tract will be neutralized by the fatty acids in meat/dairy fats.
Some of us intend to use Soma Monday nite, as per Aryan tradition, on
the Winter Solstice. Start with 1 gram for every 30lb body weight. A.
Muscaria cant be commercially grown but must be found in forest. Which
is where I live, and have sometimes found 3/4 lb in a single patch. It
is also imported from Finland, the Baltic nations, Portugal, or in many
other temperate zone forests. Wasson says it was shipped on a "Soma
Road" down to India, or possibly found in Himalayan valleys.
> Eleusis mysteries ...( whose arcanes are lost, destroyed most
> viciously by the Jews' sect of Christians)
Wasson, "The Road to Eleusis" also unraveled the secret of Kykeion, the
Greek Eleusinian potion. Its made from Claviceps Purprea grown on wild
grasses like paspalum or lolium, or on barley. If grown on wheat or rye,
it has strychnine, but on barley, has lysergic acids. The Greeks were
acid heads. Which gave rise to Plato's cave vision.
> Well again, may I refer you to one Eleusis mysteries initiate who was
> Plato. In his allegory of the Cavern, he conveys the idea of other
> levels of perception, but what he does not say is, that such
> understanding cannot be reached except going through initiation, such
> as the Eleusis mysteries of which he benefited indeed. The discourses
> & philosophical interpretations of Plato 's cavern visions abound but
> Never such conclusions, as the one imparted to you here is ever
> considered ... as well of course than the path to follow to attain
> such height of vision. This is indeed the constant concern of so
> called Western Civilizations to prevent direct experiments, since
> leading people to realize that all religious sects are empty shell,
> and Hence leading the Governments of the world through those mind
> controlled tools which are the Bleating sects indeed, to lose their
> grip on the control of consciences & people. This is what conducted to
> the Inquisition with its millions of tortured victims ( whose leaders
> were typical materialist Jews by the way : Torquemada in Spain & St
> Dominique Gutzman in France, the permanent inquisition conducted by
> the Islam Samaritian Jews ( plaguing the clueless Arabs with their
> Islam madness) , and of course the Judean Jews with their Torah
> borrowed fraud stolen to Sumer, Chaldea & compiled by Rabbid Esdras
> on the return of Babylon ( freed by Atarxerces long hand )
Wasson notes how Socrates was not the only Greek tried for blasphemy by
exposing the secret of Eleusis. Socrates was charged with "profanation
of the mysteries", a charge he never answers. After this, all Greek
public figures were careful to avoid any hint of what Eleusis was really
all about, but if you were an Epoptes, then the subtlety of work, such
as the Cave metaphor, were picked up on.
The cave is a two dimensional reality. Easy to see how it'd work for a 3
dimensional, and a bit tricky, but no impossible if you consider 4 or
more. Quantum physics says there are 10 or 11 depending on which bishop
you listen to.
> The UPL or Universal Pressure Law, corner stone of the True Geology,
I dont know enuf about geology to weigh into this.
> Finally I have to stress that all religious sects, JIC sects included
> of course, are the real enemies of Nature & respect of Nature
> harmony... they have as a result of the change of their money in all
> types of diseases befalling their followers ... and as a great
> Australian Mining Man said once : All dizeazezzz are Dezerved
The history of the few exceptions is obscure. Joseph Campbell closes his
forward to "The Language of the Goddess" by Gimbutas with:"The message
here is of an actual age of peace and harmony with the creative energies
of Nature, which for a spell of 4000 years, anteceded the 5000 of what
James Joyce has termed the 'nightmare' (of contending tribal and
national interests) from which it is certainly time for the planet to
awake. [his parens]
He wrote this 30 years ago, and archeology since has substantially
bolstered the case, and not found any challenge. There really was a
Golden Age of Peace as Plato said, stretching from the salt mines at
Hallstaat and Salzburg all the way down the Danube to the Cucuteni
fisheries on the Black Sea. From 8000 to 4000 BC.
It was a vast mercantile, not military, empire, all built in timber
frame. No stonework to look at. Once thot to be a primitive copy of
Levantine civilization; until the C-14 dates came in. They had bronze,
writing, polychrome pottery, houses with chimneys, weaving in linen,
wool, and hemp, and wore tailored jackets, shirts, pants, & skirts.
But because the Matrix I live on is manipulated in some fashion, this
archaeologlical data goes without notice.
Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
Quote
Some of us intend to use Soma Monday nite, as per Aryan tradition, on
the Winter Solstice. Start with 1 gram for every 30lb body weight. A.
Muscaria cant be commercially grown but must be found in forest.
Which
is where I live, and have sometimes found 3/4 lb in a single patch.
It
is also imported from Finland, the Baltic nations, Portugal, or in
many
other temperate zone forests. Wasson says it was shipped on a "Soma
Road" down to India, or possibly found in Himalayan valleys.
Wasson, "The Road to Eleusis" also unraveled the secret of Kykeion,
the
Greek Eleusinian potion. Its made from Claviceps Purprea grown on
wild
grasses like paspalum or lolium, or on barley. If grown on wheat or
rye,
it has strychnine, but on barley, has lysergic acids. The Greeks were
acid heads. Which gave rise to Plato's cave vision.
Unquote
Day,
How was the experiment with the Aryan ritual to which I relate
strongly indeed. You are aware of many things and this puzzles me
since this is the first time that on internet ng, I find someone of
your kind so freely willing to share such an experiment.. Although
aware of all this I would not have spoken of it. One thing I devised
besides the "Turcaud Bath" which is a (free) system conceived to expel
heavy metals & which makes one lose a hell of a lot weight in 3 hours
( 6 kg from 73 kg start & 19kg for 120 kg start) , I have as well
devised the "Turcaud Boots" which in one application cure Flu
overnight & is a system working at the opposite of the "Turcaud Bath"
but by Osmosis as well. Since we are at the time of confidence, the
real application of the "Turcaud Boots" is for the use of appropriate
antheogen( ref Wasson & Carl A.P Ruck. That way people seeking the
real mystic experiment denied to them by the Jews & neo-Jews
fraudulent JIC sects can have it at no cost at all, using the free
Mandrake & others ( sorry only ref in French: Jusquiame, Pomme
épineuse etc plants ) & putting it in the Turcaud Boots on the acid
basis. 3 basis for the Turcaud Boots : acid, alkaline & neutral
respectively : apple, onion, potatoes.
If you want to contact me personally I am giving you right here one
temporary email montjoieatsfrdotfr (apply as appropriate), I would
enjoy corresponding with you.
If you are interested, I am giving you 2 things
1) A reference which shows the Kikeion recipe was not known by Wasson,
and that phase was the ultimate step in the initiation to the Eleusis
Mysteries, of which Amanita Muscaria is the first level ( as long as
prepared correctly of course) "Sacred Mushrooms of the Goddess", by
Carl. A.P Ruck Ed Ronin Publishing, Inc Berkely California isbn
1-57951-030-2; 978-1-57951-030-5
2) The recipe for the "Turcaud Boots" which is not in line, but in
French.I am sorry I have not had the time to translate it.. may be
you might.
With best regards. Jean-Paul.
Note
-La version en Anglais du Turcaud Bath sera traduite en Français
bientôt.
-The version in French of the Turcaud Boots will be translated in
English soon
-Both system associated allow the fixation, chelation & evacuations of
the vaccination poisons, planned by the World Organization of Vaccinal
Crimes in Switzerland
-Les deux systèmes associés permettent la fixation, la chelation et
l'évacuation des poisons vaccinaux prévus par l'Organisation Mondiale
du Crime Vaccinal en Suisse
Une parade contre les poisons vaccinaux
"Turcaud Bath"
C'est un système basé sur le transfert osmotique à travers la membrane
perméable de la peau dans un solution saturée de sel marin à haute
température. Le système est totalement nouveau et permet d'évacuer
immédiatement les métaux lourds, même radioactifs, et de même de
perdre un poids considérable en seulement 3 h. Cependant, la procédure
n'est optimale que si les trois phases suivantes sont observées. Les 3
points sont décrits ci-dessous :
a) Lavement avec expansion intestinale du gros intestin en vue de
déloger les indurations vieilles de dizaine d'années et de libérer les
poisons inclus dans ces poches miasmiques.
b) Purge au Chlorure de magnésium en solution (20 g dans 75 cl d'eau
de source) avec parallèlement l'absorption d'un litre de thé sucré
abondamment au miel
c) Le bain saturé en sel marin à haute température pendant au moins 2
½ h et 3 h si possible (25kg sel marin min pour une baignoire de
1,70m, mais 30 kg c’est mieux )
d) Résultats pour homme 73kg : 6 kg perte en 3h, pour jeune-homme
Chinois de 120kg :19kg en 3h.
La méthode complète est disponible à cette adresse
"Turcaud Bath" as a free gift to Suffering Humanity
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/107947
"Turcaud Boots"
C'est un système basé sur le transfert osmotique à travers la membrane
perméable de la peau dans une solution de plantes macérées et
contenues dans une poche plastique remontant jusqu'aux genoux. Cette
méthode qui découle du Turcaud Bath, fonctionne à l'inverse, et la
pression osmotique dans ce cas permet la migration des éléments
curatifs contenues dans les légumes et les fruits composant la base du
Turcaud Boots system, entrainant la bonté des différentes herbes
fraiches trouvées gratuitement dans les champs et dans les arbres.
Cette méthode est nouvelle et unique et confirme le bien fondée des
méthodes des sorcières d'antan utilisant les onguents et les pommades,
cependant les Turcaud Boots sont plus efficaces et plus facile à
mettre en œuvre. De plus, rien ne peut être fait pour en limiter ou en
contrôler l'utilisation car les produits de base sont disponibles sur
les marchés, chez les agriculteurs et dans les jardins. Le Turcaud
Boots étant un système, des milliers de recettes peuvent être
appliquées par les gens eux-mêmes en se basant par exemple sur les
ouvrages du Dr Valnet (Légumes et Fruits, Aromathérapie,
Phytothérapie). Les bases du Turcaud Boots system sont au nombre de
trois :
a) Base acide avec des pommes
b) Base neutre avec des oignons
c) Base alcaline avec des pommes de terre
d) Il faut aussi deux poches plastiques remontant jusqu'aux genoux de
même que 2 bandes et une couverture de laine. Si l'on a une poche
plastique importante, type poche agricole pour 25 kg de mais, une
seule poche est suffisante pour y mettre les 2 jambes. Les bandes sont
utilisées en pression faible pour faire remonter la préparation
jusqu'aux genoux et la couverture pour maintenir l'ensemble au chaud.
A partir de là je ne vais donner que deux recettes, les autres seront
le fait de la recherche personnelle des personnes intéressées, car il
faut que les gens deviennent responsables de leur santé et acquièrent
la volonté de se prendre en charge. Le Turcaud Boots system est un
outil merveilleux, mais c'est aux gens d'apprendre à s'en servir dans
ses différentes et infinies applications. Il faut bien savoir en effet
que le but des Turcaud Boots est de modifier le milieu intérieur, et
donc d'annuler les conditions propres aux mutations et développements
pathogènes, avec un retour au point central défini par les travaux du
Professeur Vincent et du Dr Jeanne Rousseau, inventeurs de la Bio-
Electronique Vincent.
§ Recette pour guérir la grippe en une seule nuit par élévation de
température provoquant une transpiration très abondante.
Pour une seule jambe : 1 kg d'oignon, une tête d'ail de 15 gousses et
une cuillérée de poivre noir.
* Passer tout cela au Moulinex pour en faire un émincé (ne pas passer
au mixeur car la soupe sera faite par le contact avec les jambes)
* Vider la préparation dans la poche plastique
* Glisser la jambe dedans
* Faire la même chose pour l'autre jambe, et dans le même temps
* Demeurer tranquille pendant 3 heures à moins que l'action de l'ail
commence à brûler
* Se coucher ensuite après s'être lavé pour continuer à avoir très
chaud sous un édredon.
* Ne pas réutiliser cette préparation.
Contre indication : Ne pas faire cela si l'on doit recevoir de la
visite car on va vraiment refouler l'oignon et l'ail par tous les
pores de la peau et les émonctoires pendant une bonne journée
§ Recette pour l'arthrose, les rhumatismes et la neutralisation des
poisons vaccinaux.
Pour une seule jambe : 2 kg de pommes de terre, 100g de menthe
fraiche, 500g de choux
* Passer tout cela au Moulinex pour en faire un émincé.
* Vider la préparation dans la poche plastique et laisser macérer
pendant au moins 1 heure
* Glisser la jambe dedans
* Faire la même chose pour l'autre jambe, et dans le même temps
* Demeurer tranquille pendant 3 heures
* Se coucher ensuite, après s'être lavé, pour continuer à avoir chaud
* Réutiliser cette préparation pendant 3 jours ensuite la jeter au
composteur
A ces deux méthodes nouvelles j'ai donné mon nom pour qu'elles ne
puissent pas être revendiquées par quiconque, à partir des
informations que j'en aurai donné précédemment à certaines personnes
souffrantes. Il ne peut de ce fait être établi de quelconques droits
d'utilisation ni de restriction sur ces deux inventions. Elles sont de
fait libres de tous droits et la seule revendication que je désire
pour le Turcaud Bath et les Turcaud Boots, c'est que je les ai
pensées pour le plus grand bien de l'humanité souffrante. La seule
obligation attachée à leur utilisation c'est que ceux qui peuvent les
connaitre et en bénéficier, puissent en partager la valeur avec
d'autres. En effet ces deux systèmes démontrent la bonté infinie de la
Nature, et le fait que cet insondable génie des Principes Naturels ne
peut pas être appréhendé par nos intelligences limitées, et de ce fait
ne pourra jamais être contrôlé par des intérêts mercantiles. En effet
à la fois le Turcaud Bath et les Turcaud Boots démontrent que ceux qui
aiment et respectent la Vie auront toujours une longueur d'avance sur
les mortifères cupides.
Pour valoir ce que de droit
Pour valoir ce que de droit
Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer
Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer Mine (Australia largest Copper &
Gold Mine)
Nifty (Cu) & Kintyre (U, Th) Mines, all in the Great Sandy Desert
Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant
Founder of the True Geology
~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One Never Forgiven ~
for background info.
http://www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/grule.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/index.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/nac.html
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/turcaud.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s28534.htm
Day Brown
> strongly indeed.
the Stasi and how they setup networks of informers, tapped phone lines,
read mail, and even bugged homes to look for counter revolutionaries.
But we see among the officials some who think the system has gone
seriously wrong. They see 'informers' who use the system to settle
personal scores or advance their own position rather than improve the
security of the state.
We have our own 'Berlin Wall' in the "war on drugs", with all the same
characteristics. And like the movie, have reached the point, seen
online, where everyone understands the system needs to change, and now
we listen for the sound of the bricks in the wall being demolished.
You see my hammmering at http://daybrown.org which is but one of a
myriad of websites attacking the war on drugs.
>You are aware of many things and this puzzles me
> since this is the first time that on internet ng, I find someone of
> your kind so freely willing to share such an experiment.. Although
> aware of all this I would not have spoken of it. One thing I devised
> besides the "Turcaud Bath" which is a (free) system conceived to expel
> heavy metals & which makes one lose a hell of a lot weight in 3 hours
> ( 6 kg from 73 kg start & 19kg for 120 kg start) , I have as well
> devised the "Turcaud Boots" which in one application cure Flu
I found out that Echinacea, which grows wild in my neck of Ozark woods,
cures the flu and colds in 1996. I've not had one since. But depends on
your DNA markers; temperate zone herbs have been used by my Native
European ancestors for 10,000, or even 50,000 years (They found a
Neanderthal Shaman buried with seven medicinal herbs).
Those ancestors for whom the herbs worked, stayed in the gene pool. I
cant say whether the herbs will work for non-whites.
> overnight & is a system working at the opposite of the "Turcaud Bath"
> but by Osmosis as well. Since we are at the time of confidence, the
> real application of the "Turcaud Boots" is for the use of appropriate
> antheogen( ref Wasson & Carl A.P Ruck. That way people seeking the
> real mystic experiment denied to them by the Jews & neo-Jews
> fraudulent JIC sects can have it at no cost at all, using the free
> Mandrake & others ( sorry only ref in French: Jusquiame, Pomme
> �pineuse etc plants ) & putting it in the Turcaud Boots on the acid
> basis. 3 basis for the Turcaud Boots : acid, alkaline & neutral
> respectively : apple, onion, potatoes.
> If you want to contact me personally I am giving you right here one
> temporary email montjoieatsfrdotfr (apply as appropriate), I would
> enjoy corresponding with you.
If people object to this as off topic, post it to alt.community, which
was an empty list I found, or choose another, that way, anyone who is
interested in the thread can follow it there.
> If you are interested, I am giving you 2 things
> 1) A reference which shows the Kikeion recipe was not known by Wasson,
> and that phase was the ultimate step in the initiation to the Eleusis
> Mysteries, of which Amanita Muscaria is the first level ( as long as
> prepared correctly of course) "Sacred Mushrooms of the Goddess", by
> Carl. A.P Ruck Ed Ronin Publishing, Inc Berkely California isbn
> 1-57951-030-2; 978-1-57951-030-5
> 2) The recipe for the "Turcaud Boots" which is not in line, but in
> French.I am sorry I have not had the time to translate it.. may be
> you might.
I have enuf trouble with English, and dont dare take on French. As for
Kykeion, I grew a small sample plot of barley last year, and while I did
not get enuf of the ergot to test very thoroughly, I planted about 15-20
sq meters in October, which is up and doing well, and expect to plant a
larger patch next month, with further plantings in Feb & March.
Thing is, both the grain and the ergot are affected by local conditions,
so you dont really know what to expect. Same deal with Amanita Muscaria.
I've found it in the Ozark woods, and some years it is very powerful,
and other years has no discernible effect. But A. Muscaria cannot be
grown commercially.
Since Eleusis grew it for millennia, we see that some ecosystems did
have reliable results. But, 'your milage may vary'. (YMMV) Which is why
I am trying successive plantings. I've tried planting it in spring like
wheat, but in this ecosystem the ergot over powered the barley and
killed it by May.
In like manner, because of the spectrum of trace minerals found in any
given area, or different diets, or the absorption rate depending on the
DNA markers... your procedure may, or may not, work. Similarly, since
Kykeion and Soma were used by Aryans for millennia, if there were toxic
effects, those who could not metabolize the potions properly are far
less likely to still be in Aryan gene pools.
Thus, I've recommended that Native Americans rely on their own
traditional sacred potions- peyote, mescaline, pscilocybin, and others
in other gene pools should look into their own heritage.
I cant recall any mention in the historic record of Semites of anything
other than opium; none of these other hallucinogens. Which may therefore
have been very dangerous for them, and resulted in the Levantine
scriptures taking a dim view of their use, and assuming all mankind had
the same problem. Which we do not.
And, since the followers of Levantine religions run Western cultures, we
see the "war on drugs".
Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True Geology
*> And, since the followers of Levantine religions run Western
cultures, we
*> see the "war on drugs".
Well seen.. the JIC sects running Aryan & Celtic folks ... with the
most detrimental results we are noticing now, and one of the worse
being the Geology completely hooked on the dogmas of those sects
mainly the creation or alternatively accretion by some magical wand
of all planets on their respective orbits. Now those Universities
brainwashed imbeciles have swapped Big Bang for Creation.. apparently
it looks more scientific, and we have all those idiotic theories
relative to the Column of Ages, Glaciations, Continental rafting,
Limestone & Dolomite derived from fossils, Erosion by water & glaciers
etc plaguing humanity...
The Jews like many Levantine sects knew A. Muscaria ( of course) in
fact this is all what the gospels are all about in a coded language
unveiled by Marco Allegro at http://johnallegro.org/main/
Quote:
LANGUAGE, MYTH AND RELIGION
As a philologist, Allegro analysed the derivations of language. He
traced biblical words and phrases back to their roots in Sumerian, and
showed how Sumerian phonemes recur in varying but related contexts in
many Semitic, classical and other Indo-European languages. Although
meanings changed to some extent, Allegro found some basic religious
ideas passing on through the genealogy of words. His book The Sacred
Mushroom and the Cross relates the development of language on our
continent to the development of myths, religions and cultic practices
in many cultures. Allegro believed he could prove through etymology
that the roots of Christianity, as of many other religions, lay in
fertility cults; and that cultic practices, such as ingesting
hallucinogenic drugs to perceive the mind of god, persisted into
Christian times.
Unquote
Thanks for the link to your site, but I was not able to read it, with
the type of font/background you are using. In fact I read only what
was plain & easy to read as the table of contents but did not go
further. May be I am not the first one to tell you ?
Best regards
jpturcaud
Ken
Day Brown
> Thanks for the link to your site, but I was not able to read it, with
> the type of font/background you are using. In fact I read only what
> was plain & easy to read as the table of contents but did not go
> further. May be I am not the first one to tell you ?
I could take screenshots of regular text and then go thru to
systematically colorize as ANZI does, but its a huge pain for long works
like Gibbon, Epictetus, or novels. I am working on it.
As for the Semites, Joseph Campbell's Primitive Mythology, Occidental
Mythology, and Oriental Mythology shows cultures and religions
plagiarize from each other and always have.
The drier Levantine climate didnt have the timber, so they built in
brick and stone, which left lotsa ruins that got archaeologists
attention. Nobody knew how much more ancient European Aryan culture was
until C-14 and now dendochronology, revealed timber frame technologies
went back 8000 years.
The digs have revealed 7000 year old stone and fired clay models of A.
Muscaria, but you havta be a mycologist, not an archaeologist to know
what they are.
I wish geologists would take a look at Ryan & Pitman's "Noah's Flood"
and look into how plate tectonics- the uplift and subsidence, along with
the rise in sea level, opened up the Bosporus in the mid 6th mil, which
as R&P say, produced the Great Flood of the Euxine lake basin to create
what we now know as the Black Sea.
I read a geologist's report on a series of stress points running across
Northern Turkey from the Caucuses to a rift valley in the bottom of the
Sea of Marmara, and how these go over like dominoes from East to west,
taking scores of years, but becoming progressively stronger til they hit
the Marmara rift. With an 8 Richter. But he seemed utterly unaware of
Ryan and Pitman's description of the opening of the Bosporus.
They may be kooks, but as Socrates showed, sometimes its the kook, who
is not, as we now say, limited by group think, who sees the right
answer, even if for the wrong reasons.
Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
> taking scores of years, but becoming progressively stronger til they hit
of
*> Ryan and Pitman's description of the opening of the Bosporus.
>
*> They may be kooks, but as Socrates showed, sometimes its the kook,
who
*> is not, as we now say, limited by group think, who sees the right
*> answer, even if for the wrong reasons.
Replying to both the Other Guy & Ken : Mr Day Brown is a gentleman of
over 70, who us, much younger people, should respect. Okay ?
Now replying to Day :
First of all, Happy Xmas season.
Secondly I am consternated that your are falling for Ryan & Pitman 's
imbecile tale supposed to explain the opening of Bosphorus, all the
more since your admitted having no opinion on Geology. Then please do
not quote the Official Cretins with the inexistent Glaciations &
fraudulent description of a local Noah's Flood (stolen by the Jews in
Babylon from original Ziusudra history to make up their fraudulent
compilation known as the Pentateuch or Torah) Just like the Snake
river bordering the Columbia plateau, the Universities cretins are
claiming it was dug by cataclysmic flooding of Lake Bonneville,
( although recently having changed their ludicrous story) One thing
you must know & retain is that NO water is able to erode Aluminium
silicates which compose in great part Intrusive & Extrusive rocks !
Full stop... since this is were the Erosion folly of those
Universities Bougredanes end !
Water of whatever origin can erode only secondary minerals mostly
Carbonates & as well carry unconsolidated sedimentation. The whole
construction of Geology as spouted forth by clueless & sterile
imbeciles is completely false !
It 's a drama that you, as an evident seeker of Truth, are falling
in the trap of prevalent Sheeple backed theories without applying the
principle expressed by Socrates : It is the one who is not limited by
group think who find the right answer. Please be careful then in the
future to take as face value the present Delirium of Bible hooked
Oxford Universities' Kooks ... and this since 1 & 1/2 century.
With best regards jpturcaud
Day Brown
> imbecile tale supposed to explain the opening of Bosphorus, all the
> more since your admitted having no opinion on Geology.
and etymology. With regard to the latter...
Computer compilation of all the Aryan languages has identified the
original Aryan root words and reconstructed Proto-Indo-European, ie,
"Aryan". And, there has long been controversy over just where the
original Aryan homeland was, because while it has many words for water
fowl, water craft, fish, fishing, swamps, lakes, waterways, etc, none of
these words fit with salt water.
Which is whats in the Black Sea. JP Mallory, "In Search of the
Indo-Europeans, takes M. Gimbutas to task challenging her notion of the
Aryan homeland between the Urals and the Caspian. There's just not enuf
water.
We also know about the timber frame technology of the Aryans; which is
seen in the charred post stubs at Tripolye on the Dneipr and running
along the water ways that drain into the West end of the Black Sea. If
Gimbutas was correct, the stubs would be along the Volga. They are not.
Everything points to the west end of the Black Sea except salt water.
And everyone agrees there was an Aryan diaspora in the 6th mil. What is
it that caused this? Oswald & Ballantine "Did the Proto-Indo-European
Priesthood commit Treason in the era of PIE Unity?" show the similarity
of clerical practice among German, Latin, Greek, Anatolian, and Indian
cultures that date from this dispersal. They know some great
revolutionary event put Aryans on the move. What was it, if not the
Great Flood?
Recent work in Iran has found several agrarian villages along its rivers
that were curiously all founded in the late 6th mil. The Iranians make
it perfectly clear that they are Aryans, not Semites.
R&P report that the earliest version we have is in Gilgamesh, and the
earliest copy of that was written in Mitanni. Which is not a Semitic
language, but of an upland Aryan horse culture in what is now Northern
Iraq and Iran. WTF is a horse culture doing with a great flood myth?
Then too, we have the report of Ballard's 'Titanic' crew on the Black
Sea north of Sinop Turkey that says they found the remains of a building
foundation under 300 foot of water. Down at that level, the water is not
salt, but anaerobic fresh water. That has a lot to do with why, when the
Russians sank cores to work out a new bridge across the Kirch straits,
the core samples came up with marine life and mud, but then below that
was a layer of land grasses. That'd been covered with mud so fast they
did not rot. C-14 date: mid 6th millennium.
The scenario in "Noah's Flood" is that salt water burst thru the isthmus
and then flowed over the land and over the fresh water. The fresh water
of the Euxine lake is still there, under 300 foot of salt. The fresh
water that comes down the rivers does so in much shallower areas so it
gets mixed.
I've seen lotsa posts argue about the geology, but nobody takes on all
the cultural, linguistic, and religious coincidences that are all very
well explained by a 6th mil great disaster, and the only one anyone can
think of in that region would be the great flood. The dendochronology,
which goes back 8000 years, does not show a drought. The North and West
shores of the Black Sea dont have earthquakes. No seasonal spring flood
would affect the level of the Black Sea. No hurricanes.
Of course, this directly challenges Levantine scriptures, so there are
lotsa posters who are trying to debunk it. But none of them are from an
Oriental culture where the Levantine scriptures are unimportant.