how come in many egyptian painting, woman is lightskinned and man is tanned?
Goy Liath
egyptian women have light skin and men have tanned skin.
why is this?
Rodney Kelp
"Goy Liath" <goyl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> ever notice this?
>
> egyptian women have light skin and men have tanned skin.
>
> why is this?
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racial thoughts. Just look for info. in encyclopedias and don't ask on any
newsgroups because the intelligence here is not as we know it!
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Dorian West
>
> egyptian women have light skin and men have tanned skin.
>
> why is this?
Why don't you figure it out genius? Start with the basics - what turns white
people's skin dark? Oh, but I forgot, a Nigra savage like you is always
dark-skinned, tough eh?
Henry Hooray
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Just to remind the not-so-brave Dorian West that he is busy running away
from any meaningful discussion about his beloved (but primitive, hateful,
illogical and unintelligent) racism.
Will we ever see just the briefest of glimpses of the "superior intellect"
that Dorian West has boasted of?
Henry.
bernard connor
"Mad dogs and English men go out in the noon day sun". Even worse,
northern males and females sunbathe naked or near naked, creating high
levels of melanoma.
The Egyptian women may have been more fully covered, but the artists
liked to display their feminity. It is odd that the men seemed to wear
only loin cloths.
Modern Egytians have more sense and cover up to protect themselves
from the sun.
Bernard.
Doug Weller
Where are all the racists coming from?
Anyway, take a look at these sites:
http://www.egyptvoyager.com/artcrafts_egyptianart_2.htm
http://www.coh.arizona.edu/classics/fc4/eaverly.html
http://www.cartage.org.lb/en/themes/GeogHist/histories/Oldcivilization/Egyptology/Women/magf6.htm
Doug
Hagen
The same colors you'll see at murial paintings from Minoan Crete.
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Louvre/1161/hagia.gif
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Louvre/1161/observe.htm
Hagen
Ben Buckner
physiology. In Ancient Mediterranean art it was a particularly strong
and regular convention, presumably often exaggerated, though it's
frequent in Asian art as well. Not only is the "male" pigment darker,
it often tends to be more reddish as well.
Men naturally tend to have a higher hemoglobin concentration in the
blood (as well as lower body fat), and so male skin tends to appear
darker and more reddish. There may be other physiological causes as
well, but hemoglobin is rather significant in skin color, so it's
undoubtedly a major factor in the difference.
I would assume that people just don't notice it as much in modern
Western society for the reasons that we tend to wear more clothes and
perhaps because our societies are usually more ethnically heterogeneous
so that individual variation in skin tone tends to overwhelm the fairly
small variation due to sex. There is good evidence though that we
subconsciously use it as a cue in gender identificiation, even if we
aren't consciously aware of the difference.
It's also common in many cultures that lighter skin is considered to be
more feminine (probably also influenced by the notion that tanned skin
indicated that one had to toil in the sun for a living), so that
probably worked to reinforce the artistic convention as a form of
idealization.
Here's an intersting web page on it:
http://pages.globetrotter.net/pfrost/
Ben B.
Matt Giwer
> why is this?
Vanity.
A tan is the mark of a woman who has to work in the sun thus low
born. Light skin denoted wealth therefore they are shown with light
skin *regardless* of the _real_ color of their skin. Back before
cameras painters improved their subject's looks particularly of women
often to their specifications.
Sunbathing, like hanging out on beaches is not recorded until modern
times. When women are described being outside by choice it is in the
shade.
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Dorian West
"Doug Weller" <dwe...@ramtops.thisremove.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:10:38 +0100, Dorian West wrote:
>
> > "Goy Liath" <goyl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:a1ca7b5e.04091...@posting.google.com...
> >> ever notice this?
> >>
> >> egyptian women have light skin and men have tanned skin.
> >>
> >> why is this?
> >
> > Why don't you figure it out genius? Start with the basics - what turns
white
> > people's skin dark? Oh, but I forgot, a Nigra savage like you is always
> > dark-skinned, tough eh?
>
> Where are all the racists coming from?
I'm not a racist, I'm a racialist - I wish no ill to others of other race, I
wish that they lead their lives and leave my race and me alone. Thank you
for the links.
Jim Webster
"Matt Giwer" <jul...@tampabay.rr.RoMeVE.com> wrote in message
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> Goy Liath wrote:
> > ever notice this?
>
> > egyptian women have light skin and men have tanned skin.
>
> > why is this?
>
> Vanity.
>
> A tan is the mark of a woman who has to work in the sun thus low
> born. Light skin denoted wealth therefore they are shown with light
> skin *regardless* of the _real_ color of their skin. Back before
> cameras painters improved their subject's looks particularly of women
> often to their specifications.
>
> Sunbathing, like hanging out on beaches is not recorded until modern
> times. When women are described being outside by choice it is in the
> shade.
Yes, as late as the 1950s and 60s European Women who were ex-pats in the
far east made an effort to retain their paler skins by avoiding too much
direct sunlight
Women getting a tan is a comparatively modern fashion thing
Jim Webster
Robert Stonehouse
Men's lives were lived mainly outdoors, women's indoors:
Hesiod, Works and Days 519 ff., part of the description of
the cold month Lenaion. So there was a typical difference in
coloration, which became conventional and was convenient for
artists as a way of telling the sexes apart.
Attic vase-painting did something very similar: Boardman,
'Athenian Black-figure Vases', chapter 2 on the Nessos
Painter, the earliest recognised individual Attic painter:
"He uses little white, except in the lines of dots in the
Corinthian manner and for some female flesh, but he likes
red in broad masses, or alternating with black for wing
feathers, and for male and some monster faces. The 'male -
red, female - white' conventions of Egyptian art may have
had some direct effect here and are the only realistic
features on the otherwise unrealistically coloured black
figures."
zolota
"Doug Weller" <dwe...@ramtops.thisremove.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
>> "Goy Liath" <goyl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:a1ca7b5e.04091...@posting.google.com...
>>> ever notice this?
>>>
>>> egyptian women have light skin and men have tanned skin.
>>>
>>> why is this?
>>
>> Why don't you figure it out genius? Start with the basics - what turns
>> white
>> people's skin dark? Oh, but I forgot, a Nigra savage like you is always
>> dark-skinned, tough eh?
>
> Where are all the racists coming from?
From a scum covered pond perhaps? ;)
Z
zolota
"Jim Webster" <J...@zerospam.moik.net> wrote in message
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As recently as August, 2004 Asian women in North America carried parasols to
avoid direct sunlight.
Z
Henry Hooray
> I'm not a racist, I'm a racialist - I wish no ill to others of other race,
I
> wish that they lead their lives and leave my race and me alone. Thank you
> for the links.
So Dorian West is not a racist :o)
Here's a few quotes from Dorian West, the non-racist:
15 October 2002: "It's a given that I am a racist. At least I have the
courage to say it out aloud and at least I can express my human rights
openly without hiding them beneath a veneer of festering hatred and
self-righteous indignation."
8 July 2003: "I WISH TO PROCLAIM TO ALL MONGOLS AND SLAVS THAT I AM A
RACIST."
14 July 2003: "I do not brag on being a racist. If my arguments in an effort
to preserve my culture and heritage seem to be racist in that they are aimed
at the Asian hordes - Turks, Jews Mongolslavs etc., seeking to swamp and
wipe out Europe, so be it, I am a racist."
9 October 2003: "The WHOLE world hates Jews because they can see them for
what they are - incestuous, nepotistic, blood-sucking, thieving pieces of
human trash."
22 Jan 2004: "Yes I am proud of belonging to the white race, your problem if
you're not, race traitor, and I consider the fiends of the white race to be
the Jews, that is, of course, unless you can provide me evidence to the
contrary."
27 January 2004: "How does it feel to be part of an inferior race you
dark-skinned buffoon??? Know that the white man will always hate your vile
guts!"
18 March 2004: "I hate fat people and ugly people too not just different
coloured bastards."
All the quotes are genuine, and can be easily verified by Google:
http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search.
Perhaps we can now look forward to a display of the "superior intellect"
that Dorian West has boasted of, and enjoy his explanation why he now says
he is not a racist. And anyway, regardless of what he says, it is abundantly
clear to anybody who has read his racist nonsense in these pages and
elsewhere that Dorian West is indeed an arch-proponent of illogical,
inhumane, hateful and plain unintelligent racism.
Henry.
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We don't have to go back that far. In his first post in this
thread, West wrote:
"Why don't you figure it out genius? Start with the basics -
what turns white people's skin dark? Oh, but I forgot, a Nigra
savage like you is always dark-skinned, tough eh?"
Racist on its face. And no sign whatsoever of any intellect
superior to a rat.
--
Tom McDonald
Dorian West
"Tom McDonald" <tmcdon...@nohormelcharter.net> wrote in message
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Turks, Mongolslavs and Gypsies like you 2 can go back where they came from.
Go frame some other innocent with you made up IDs and out of context quotes.
Why don't you post the cunt racists I am responding to instead of
selectively posting my quotes? But we know how the Jew and his sub-human
minions work by now, don't we?
Doug Weller
> "Doug Weller" <dwe...@ramtops.thisremove.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1b9nky4s2c86v$.ji8gr2oby1b0.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:10:38 +0100, Dorian West wrote:
>>
>>> "Goy Liath" <goyl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:a1ca7b5e.04091...@posting.google.com...
>>>> ever notice this?
>>>>
>>>> egyptian women have light skin and men have tanned skin.
>>>>
>>>> why is this?
>>>
>>> Why don't you figure it out genius? Start with the basics - what turns
> white
>>> people's skin dark? Oh, but I forgot, a Nigra savage like you is always
>>> dark-skinned, tough eh?
>>
>> Where are all the racists coming from?
>
> I'm not a racist, I'm a racialist - I wish no ill to others of other race, I
> wish that they lead their lives and leave my race and me alone. Thank you
> for the links.
A skunk by any other name would smell as bad. You define people by
something you call 'race' and call them 'the other', 'not us', etc.
Doug
Doug Weller
> Racist on its face. And no sign whatsoever of any intellect
> superior to a rat.
ROTFL! And I see he proves it by his pathetic response to you. He's
slime.
Doug
Tom McDonald
If I had any tendency whatsoever to be proud of my skin color,
with or without a concomitant distaste for those of other hues,
I'd be ashamed of West even more than I am now. I think you
malign slime in your comparison.
But he seems quite mad, so perhaps there is at least an
explanation for his postings. I wouldn't let him near the gun
cabinet, though.
--
Tom McDonald
Tedd Jacobs
"Dorian West" wrote...
> "Tom McDonald" wrote...
>> Henry Hooray wrote:
>> > "Dorian West" wrote...
>> >
<snip>
>> Racist on its face. And no sign whatsoever of any intellect
>> superior to a rat.
>
> Turks, Mongolslavs and Gypsies like you 2 can go back where they came
> from.
> Go frame some other innocent with you made up IDs and out of context
> quotes.
dang, you caught me.
Zayton
OK Just this once, I'm gonna bite. What context could any of your remarks
above be put into which would NOT reveal you to be both a racist and an
idiot?
zolota
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You, sir, are now insulting good rats in this way.
Damn specist!
Z
George
With the diversity of peoples throughout the world I wonder where this
little bigot hides away...
I for one feel sorry for such a loser.
All those marvellous people he's terrified of
Dorian West
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Don't bite, you're out of topic. And I'll give you the response you seek.
The initial post is by this Mongolslav/Turk troll that posted below.
"Goy Liath" <goyl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> this is true. greeks have huge schnausers.
I will fight racists with their own weapon of choice - racism. So you
leftie, pinko fuckheads can go and eat shit if you don't like that.
Henry Hooray
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> Yup Doug
> With the diversity of peoples throughout the world I wonder where this
> little bigot hides away...
> I for one feel sorry for such a loser.
> All those marvellous people he's terrified of
It is difficult for me to feel sorry for Dorian West (with whom I have
several times attempted to have a meaningful conversation), but I really
like your parting remark - it is beautifully put.
Henry.
Tom McDonald
Ditto.
I grew up in an all-white town in the US Midwest, where
diversity was pretty much which European country your ancestors
came from (although we did have a Jewish family--that was
exotic). Now, partly due to the university in town, partly due
to economic expansion, and partly due to our hosting a sizable
Hmong contingent, a walk down Main Street is much like a walk
down any Main Street in the US; all sorts of people, all sorts
of accents and languages, and more vibrancy than I would have
ever imagined as a teen. Scares some folks; I love it.
True patriotism is not, 'My [country, race, people] are
superior to all others', 'I'm proud of my heritage, and I hope
you are equally proud of yours; tell me about you and yours'.
--
Tom McDonald
Jim Boukis
> I will fight racists with their own weapon of choice - racism.
HA! fighting ignorance with ignorance is, well, ignorant.
how fitting for a racist imbecile like you to have chosen
such a path...
> So you leftie, pinko fuckheads can go and eat shit if you don't like that.
one need not subscribe to leftist politics in order to
see the ignorant redundancy of racism. of course, one can't
expect a half-wit like you to grasp the obvious....
Philip Deitiker
news:10kdpa6...@corp.supernews.com:
> True patriotism is not, 'My [country, race, people]
> are superior to all others', 'I'm proud of my heritage, and I
> hope you are equally proud of yours; tell me about you and
> yours'.
Patriotism is american nationalism and it generally reflects
that race and people within the political majority at any time.
I don't know if there is such a thing as true patriotism,
because the only thing that is 'true' to nationalism of any form
is bigotry.
--
Philip
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Dorian West
WHEREVER I HATE THEM. SO BE SILENT YOU SLEAZEY, JEW BACKED NEGRO ANIMAL.
POST ON TOPIC OR NOT AT ALL.
THAT GOES FOR ALL OF YOU!
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Henry Hooray
> SHUT THE FUCK UP MONGOL SAVAGE. I HATE WHO I HATE, WHEN I HATE THEM,
> WHEREVER I HATE THEM. SO BE SILENT YOU SLEAZEY, JEW BACKED NEGRO ANIMAL.
> POST ON TOPIC OR NOT AT ALL.
>
> THAT GOES FOR ALL OF YOU!
But the topic, dear Dorian West, is one that is so very close you your own
heart: racism.
Please do let us catch just a glimpse of your "superior intellect" as you
explain why we, like you, should hate Jews and black people, and all the
others who have incurred your displeasure.
Looking forward to your polite exposition,
Henry.
Jason K Lambrou
Tom McDonald wrote:
Post a list of the members from your local Country Club.
Tedd Jacobs
are originating from and drop sci.arch.
"Dorian West" <n...@no.com> wrote in message
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George
town..
As a result I tend to not see colour or race but I can and do (sadly)
see stupidity and bigotry in all its hues of black and black.
Just think of what Dorian is missing out on. That is why I feel sorry
for him !
Tom McDonald
I'm not privy to that info, as I don't run in golfing circles.
However, I see all sorts, colors and conditions of folks
golfing at the courses in town. I know the owner of one course,
and he's got grandkids that are either mixed-race or adopted.
Does that count?
Perhaps you haven't done enough in _your_ town, and still have
restricted-membership country clubs.
--
Tom McDonald
scooby750
"Henry Hooray" <c2mi...@sneakeLEAVETHISOUTmail.com> wrote in message
Dispise those who hate you too your face , but respect them.
Fear those that call you friend, but hate you behind closed doors.
Bruce
scooby750
"zolota" <zol...@REMOVEshaw.ca> wrote in message
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ROFL
How true this remark is. Now my good fellows please stop responding too this
TROLL Doug Weller who has baited most of you into this ignorant topic.
Bruce 'scoob' B
Dorian West
"Henry Hooray" <c2mi...@sneakeLEAVETHISOUTmail.com> wrote in message
Here it is. It's only 1 of many reasons. Digest it. Read up on geopolitics.
Read up on history. After you have done that, then analyse and criticise it.
World War III: The Setup
World War III, the last of the planned Illuminati/Masonic world wars, is
being set up as we speak. There will be a Zionist axis and an Anti-Zionist
axis. Both sides are being set up to be roughly equal in strength so
millions of people will die and the Illuminati can produce their Antichrist
who will "restore order". It is planned to be a nuclear war; not like World
War II, but a multiple city take-out free-for-all.
You know things are looking scary when you can almost neatly divide the
world into two opposing camps, which will be of approximate parity in about
ten years.
The war is planned to start sometime early the next decade. In the meantime,
Kerry is chosen to be president of the USA for a term, for the purpose of
weakening her while China and Iran strengthen their armed forces. I then
think that Kerry will then be thrown out and replaced by a Republican,
possibly Schwarzenegger. Then possibly Hillary Clinton takes the helm. In
the meantime, terrorist attacks, assassinations, and other assorted
incidents will keep the world heading toward the edge of the cliff.
When the war finally comes, possibly by some sort of "accident" destroying
the al-Aqsa Mosque, the sides should look something like this (nuclear
powers (by 2010) are in bold):
On the "Zionist" side:
Occupied Afghanistan, Albania, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Muslim
Bosnia, Britain, Cambodia, Chechnya, Colombia, Croatia, *Egypt, Georgia,
occupied Iraq, Israel, Japan, *Jordan, Kuwait, *Pakistan, Philippines,
Poland, Qatar, South Korea, Taiwan, Thailand, Turkey, Turkmenistan, United
Arab Emirates, the United States, and Uzbekistan.
On the "Anti-Zionist" side:
Abkhazia, Armenia, Belarus, Burma, China, Cuba, Greece, India, Iran, the
Kurds, Laos, Lebanon, Libya, FYRMacedonia, Malaysia, Mexico, North Korea,
South Ossetia, the Palestinians, Russia, Serbia, Syria, Venezuela, and
Vietnam.
Africa will also be in a knock-down-drag-out internal war, worse than the
one which recently petered out in the Congo.
* "X-factors" include whether or not the presently pro-Zionist leaders of
Egypt, Indonesia (not listed), Jordan, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia (not
listed) are "assassinated" or otherwise removed in the coming intervening
years. If so, they will be on the anti-Zionist side. If Pakistan is then
anti-Zionist, India will then be Zionist, along with Nepal, which is
currently fighting a Maoist insurgency. If Indonesia is still pro-Zionist,
it will be fighting Malaysia and its internal radical Muslim rebels in Aceh.
France and Germany will try to avoid it but if the have to, they'll join the
Anti-Zionist side.
GWBush
Here, I have included the comments as well as your response to the
comments.
Your last comment seems proof enough that wht others say about you is,
in fact, correct.
GWBush
>SHUT THE FUCK UP MONGOL SAVAGE. I HATE WHO I HATE, WHEN I HATE THEM,
>WHEREVER I HATE THEM. SO BE SILENT YOU SLEAZEY, JEW BACKED NEGRO ANIMAL.
>POST ON TOPIC OR NOT AT ALL.
>
>THAT GOES FOR ALL OF YOU!
>
Odd, since your posts adresses neither the original question or the
topic of any group,that you would be exhorting others to post on
topic. Mayhaps is this suppose to be a comic interlude?
Henry Hooray
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> Dispise those who hate you too your face , but respect them.
> Fear those that call you friend, but hate you behind closed doors.
>
> Bruce
Personally, I find it such a waste of time and energy to hate. It is almost
invariably the guy who hates who suffers the more - as in our little case
with Dorian West. He goes around seemingly drawing nourishment from all this
hatred and fear of his, and it just isn't healthy.
I don't know if Dorian West hates me or not (if he really believes that I
fit into one of his enemy-pictures then I suppose he might - however
factually wrong he is), but I just cannot be moved to either hate him in
return or even to respect him. I'm sorry to say that to me Dorian West
appears as a genuinely despicable little creature (nothing personal
intended, Dorian West). As long as he continues to post his racist drivel
here I reserve the right to respond. Other than that I find him a quite
uninteresting insignificant fearful little person.
Henry.
Henry Hooray
flabbered.
And this is why I should join with Dorian West and start hating Jews (as
well as blacks and other coloured people, homosexuals, women, communists
etc)? Sure thing, Dorian West, how very persuasive of you.
Yes, what a fantastic argument. But I'm afraid that this is not just
fantastic (actually, it's not, Dorian West: it's just paranoid anti-Semitic
fear), but fantastical. Hitler and his henchmen didn't concoct better (or
rather: worse) arguments. Let's face it, Dorian West, your 'analysis' is
just a pathetic little fearsome tale, told under the duvet to frighten the
children.
It would be such a waste of time to go into any level of detail in tearing
your nightmares apart, Dorian West, but just consider the proposition that
all these American Christians (Bush, Kerry et al) are actually in thrall to
some Jewish group. Consider, and laugh.
Dorian West, is that really the best you can do? I'm afraid that this
display of your "superior intellect" has done nothing except brighten up my
morning: in addition to bringing a smile to my face, it also further
confirmed that racists and anti-Semites just do not have a logical
intelligent argument for their hateful and murderous case.
Thank you for that, Dorian West.
And perhaps Dorian West can now put his racism behind him, and can
concentrate on matters Greek.
Henry.
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Philip Deitiker
news:ua3gk0pierslcqo5c...@4ax.com:
>>> Henry Hooray wrote:
What do we say about em'? You can tell me I like to make fun at
Tom. Oh, BTW check your attributions, Tom didn't write 2ndary
quote in the above Henry did.;^).
Doug Weller
> How true this remark is. Now my good fellows please stop responding too this
> TROLL Doug Weller who has baited most of you into this ignorant topic
Do you really think racist remarks should be tolerated?
I'm hardly a troll, just a garden-variety anti-racist. :-) With a web site
dedicated to archaeology.
Doug
George
Only one person has ever accused you of being a troll..
keep up the good work
GWBush
<Donev...@worlnet.att.net> wrote:
>GWBush <george...@nospam.whitehouse.gov> says in
>news:ua3gk0pierslcqo5c...@4ax.com:
>
>>>"Tom McDonald" <tmcdon...@nohormelcharter.net> wrote in
>>>message news:10kb4d5...@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>>> Henry Hooray wrote:
>
>>>Turks, Mongolslavs and Gypsies like you 2 can go back where
>>>they came from. Go frame some other innocent with you made
>>>up IDs and out of context quotes. Why don't you post the
>>>cunt racists I am responding to instead of selectively
>>>posting my quotes? But we know how the Jew and his
>>>sub-human minions work by now, don't we?
>>
>> Here, I have included the comments as well as your response
>> to the comments. Your last comment seems proof enough that wht
>> others say about you is, in fact, correct.
>
>What do we say about em'? You can tell me I like to make fun at
>Tom. Oh, BTW check your attributions, Tom didn't write 2ndary
>quote in the above Henry did.;^).
Sorry, I thought those were Dorian's words. They sure sound like
his.
Kendall K. Down
goyl...@hotmail.com (Goy Liath) wrote:
> ever notice this?
> egyptian women have light skin and men have tanned skin.
> why is this?
Because Egyptian women stayed at home spinning, weaving and cooking, while
the men were out in the fields hunting, fishing and farming.
Ken Down
Jim Boukis
> SHUT THE FUCK UP MONGOL SAVAGE.
yeah, a greek-american by way of mongolia. idiot.
> I HATE WHO I HATE, WHEN I HATE THEM,
> WHEREVER I HATE THEM.
i have no doubt.
> SO BE SILENT YOU SLEAZEY, JEW BACKED NEGRO ANIMAL.
ummm, no.
> POST ON TOPIC OR NOT AT ALL.
do you even remember the topic you f**king dunce?
> THAT GOES FOR ALL OF YOU!
or what, you racist pussy? gonna tell your mommy on us?
Goy Liath
i heard somewhere it's because egyptian women whitened their skin with
some lead coloring.
Goy Liath
> ever notice this?
>
> egyptian women have light skin and men have tanned skin.
>
> why is this?
why?
Katherine Griffis-Greenberg
sci.archaeology, wrote the following:
No, it's as Mr. Down indicated: the skin was paler because the work of
women was mainly indoors and able to done without exposure to the sun,
which kept it from becoming red-tanned like that of men who worked
outdoors.
Similar colouring styles are also seen on representations of the elderly
men (and women) for the same reason - that is, they remain indoors and
sedentary in their elder years while the younger able-bodied males
worked outdoors.
Discussion of this particular phenomena is to be found in
Fischer, Henry G. 1963. Varia Aegyptiaca. JARCE 2 (1963): 17-51.
See Part I: Yellow-skinned Representations of Men in the Old Kingdom.
Regards --
--
Katherine Griffis-Greenberg, MA (Lon)
Member, International Association of Egyptologists
American Research Center in Egypt, ASOR, EES, SSEA
Oriental Institute
Oriental Studies Doctoral Program [Egyptology]
University of Oxford
Oxford, United Kingdom
Khaled
maybe they spend more time in the sun ???
maybe they wear short sleaves more often ??
the real test is to conduct a survey of m & f without cloths
to see if the observed phenomenon is statisticallly
supported.
Kendall K. Down
> i heard somewhere it's because egyptian women whitened their skin with
> some lead coloring.
Egyptian cosmetics have been found; I am not an expert on the subject but I
do not recall the appearance of white lead. Women in Elizabethan England
used that for the purpose you describe. I am not sure that Egyptians did.
Katherine?
Ken Down
wbarwell
Possibly just old fashioned artist's convention?
> See Part I: Yellow-skinned Representations of Men in the Old Kingdom.
>
Homer Simpson? Did the ancient Egyptians have doughnuts?
--
Kerry - two medals a silver and bronze star.
Bush? Well they don't give medals
for going AWOL, missing your medical and
getting grounded or falling off of a bar stool.
Kerry - a hero, Bush - a zero
Cheerful Charlie
Odysseus
>
> Katherine Griffis-Greenberg wrote:
>
[snip]
>
> > See Part I: Yellow-skinned Representations of Men in the Old Kingdom.
> >
>
> Homer Simpson? Did the ancient Egyptians have doughnuts?
>
They certainly were fond of beer.
--
Odysseus
"Guest"
"Goy Liath" <goyl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a1ca7b5e.04091...@posting.google.com...
Some say that it was so that you can tell that a female was a female and not
a male.
meeso
Hello there,
I don't think the phenomena is actually true. But there are two important
aspects:
first, there are myths about the Egyptian women in certain areas being
raped or married by invaders (for example, the totally white green eyed
women of "el Mansoura" who're said to be the product of the massive sexual
intercourse with the Egyptian women in the area during the time of the
French occupation by French soldiers). However, there is no evidence of
this whatsoever but it's also true that in these areas, there are totally
non-Egyptian looking females. However, this is odd and rare.
Secondly, in rural Egypt and in the places where Arabization is doing
excellent work, females are prohibited from working in the field. the
Egyptian farmer is not really dark because it's his natural color. It's
the sun that makes up this color. If they are not exposed to it as
regularly as they do, they'll become less dark. Which is perhaps the case
of those females who're no more given the chance to be blessed by the
Green and the Sun! While in other places, where females are to work
regularly with their husbands in the field, they're clearly as dark as
their fellow men-farmers.
However, I believe it's not true that there is a wide range of change in
skin color between the two sexes in Egypt.
Best,
--
Maysara
Kendall K. Down
"\"Guest\"" <n0...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Some say that it was so that you can tell that a female was a female and not
> a male.
Considering that the linen garments were all but transparent, I think there
were other, surer ways of telling than just by skin colour.
Ken Down
FANTIMA
male counterpart. It's true according to genetics that most women of
all races tend to be lighter than their male counterparts. You can
see there are depictions in ancient Egyptian tombs of females working
alongside their male counterparts. For the most part the
yellow/reddish brown coloration is at best symbolic. Even leading
Egyptologist Gay Robbins admits this.
What you might not also meeso is that certain parts of Upper
Egypt also have women that were raped by French soliders. You will see
them in an area Marris.
As far as the sun turning the skin color of farmers dark is not
true either because many Egyptians living around Luxor/Aswan and even
parts of Middle Egypt have natural dark to light brown skin. I
believe you might be talking about the Fellahin in the Delta but fair
skin is very rare in Saeed[Upper Egypt]
We also have documented evidence of Greek-Egyptian unions of
marriage around parts of Middle Egypt particularly in modern
Minya,Asyut,and even parts of Thebes[Luxor]
You are right about the Islamization/Arabization upon the
women in Upper Egypt.