Jesus of Qumran
crunch
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qumran_origin/message/1321
"The Essenes were much stricter in their asceticism than were
mainstream Jews."
Where was Jesus born?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qumran_origin/message/3608
"He was not born in Bethlehem, nor in Nazareth."
Please comment fully in close detail.
Peace,
David Christainsen
Newton, Mass. USA
Sir David
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qumran<FLUSH>
Carl rides his hobbyhorse to Kooksburgh.
(<<Kelly>>)
> Jesus not always of Nazarethhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/qumran_origin/message/1321
>
> "The Essenes were much stricter in their asceticism than were
> mainstream Jews."
>
>
> "He was not born in Bethlehem, nor in Nazareth."
As Sir David has so stated: "Hobbyhorse".
One if by land; two if by sea; three if by Soggy.
Three strikes and you're out!
> Please comment fully in close detail.
No.
Matt Giwer
> Jesus not always of Nazareth
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qumran_origin/message/1321
> "The Essenes were much stricter in their asceticism than were
> mainstream Jews."
> Where was Jesus born?
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qumran_origin/message/3608
> "He was not born in Bethlehem, nor in Nazareth."
> Please comment fully in close detail.
He was born in a pool of blood and amniotic fluids. His mother and father
celebrated his birth by consuming the afterbirth prepared in a white truffle
sauce.
--
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or an alchemical chemist. None are scientists.
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roj
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> crunch wrote:
snip
> He was born in a pool of blood and amniotic fluids. His mother and father
> celebrated his birth by consuming the afterbirth prepared in a white truffle
> sauce.
>
> --
> A biblical archaeologist is like an astrological astronomer
> or an alchemical chemist. None are scientists.
> -- The Iron Webmaster, 4199
> http://www.giwersworld.org/israel/is-seg.phtml a14
> Fri Jan 1 00:11:15 EST 2010
>
Alas, the true white truffle appears to be limited to the oak forests
of France and Italy, although it is possible that the three kings may
have provided the inferior chinese white truffle, possibly encountered
during their previous perambulations.
See www.sciencemag.org/cgi/reprint/323/5917/1006.pdf
Regards to your gastronomical feats in this New Year.
roj
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Matt Giwer
> "Matt Giwer" <jul...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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>> crunch wrote:
> snip
>> He was born in a pool of blood and amniotic fluids. His mother and father
>> celebrated his birth by consuming the afterbirth prepared in a white truffle
>> sauce.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Alas, the true white truffle appears to be limited to the oak forests
> of France and Italy, although it is possible that the three kings may
> have provided the inferior chinese white truffle, possibly encountered
> during their previous perambulations.
> See www.sciencemag.org/cgi/reprint/323/5917/1006.pdf
I must direct your attention to The DaVinci Code for the French truffle
connection.
> Regards to your gastronomical feats in this New Year.
Kosher ham and cheese sandwiches all 'round.
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then all Israeli actions against the native population are the actions of
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crunch
Grow up, kid.
crunch
> roj wrote:
> > "Matt Giwer" <jul...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> >news:4b3d8463$0$5097$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
> >> crunch wrote:
> > snip
> >> He was born in a pool of blood and amniotic fluids. His mother and father
> >> celebrated his birth by consuming the afterbirth prepared in a white truffle
> >> sauce.
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Alas, the true white truffle appears to be limited to the oak forests
> > of France and Italy, although it is possible that the three kings may
> > have provided the inferior chinese white truffle, possibly encountered
> > during their previous perambulations.
> > See www.sciencemag.org/cgi/reprint/323/5917/1006.pdf
>
> I must direct your attention to The DaVinci Code for the French truffle
> connection.
Knights Templar; Hiram Key; da Vinci Code
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qumran_origin/message/2560
"We come right up to date with Dan Brown’s The Da Vinci Code,
published this year. I’ve only just obtained it and have been reading
it over the past couple of days. Its great merit is that it purports
to be a work of fiction only, and may even be useful by showing that
the fantasies of the industry belong only in such a fictitious
setting. The consumers of the fakeries are obviously the intended
market of the book. It will bring great profit to Dan Brown, who is
undoubtedly a superb thriller writer - there is a gasp in every line.
I found it intriguing that a character named Sir Leigh Teabing
appears. His surname, as a reviewer pointed out, is an anagram of
Baigent (all the names have such coded meanings). Baigent-Leigh is
presented first as a respected historian, the authority on the Grail
legend, but by the end of the story appears in a villainous role (I
won’t spoil it by telling you more). I detect a hint of scepticism by
Dan Brown, who does seem to be a capable thinker."
(<<Kelly>>)
> On Jan 1, 3:29 pm, Matt Giwer <jul...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > roj wrote:
> > > "Matt Giwer" <jul...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> > >news:4b3d8463$0$5097$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
> > >> crunch wrote:
> > > snip
> > >> He was born in a pool of blood and amniotic fluids. His mother and father
> > >> celebrated his birth by consuming the afterbirth prepared in a white truffle
> > >> sauce.
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Alas, the true white truffle appears to be limited to the oak forests
> > > of France and Italy, although it is possible that the three kings may
> > > have provided the inferior chinese white truffle, possibly encountered
> > > during their previous perambulations.
> > > See www.sciencemag.org/cgi/reprint/323/5917/1006.pdf
>
> > I must direct your attention to The DaVinci Code for the French truffle
> > connection.
> >...
>
>
> "We come right up to date with Dan Brown’s The Da Vinci Code,
> published this year. I’ve only just obtained it and have been reading
> it over the past couple of days. Its great merit is that it purports
> to be a work of fiction only, and may even be useful by showing that
> the fantasies of the industry belong only in such a fictitious
> setting. The consumers of the fakeries are obviously the intended
> market of the book. It will bring great profit to Dan Brown, who is
> undoubtedly a superb thriller writer - there is a gasp in every line.
>
> I found it intriguing that a character named Sir Leigh Teabing
> appears. His surname, as a reviewer pointed out, is an anagram of
> Baigent (all the names have such coded meanings). Baigent-Leigh is
> presented first as a respected historian, the authority on the Grail
> legend, but by the end of the story appears in a villainous role (I
> won’t spoil it by telling you more). I detect a hint of scepticism by
> Dan Brown, who does seem to be a capable thinker."
Still nothing from you and your own words or thoughts - just more spam
from the Troll of SRQ.
You remind me of "Joshua" - the voice of the computer WOPR in the
movie Wargames. Maybe you should consider a nym change to WOPR...?
LOL
zayton
>
> You remind me of "Joshua" - the voice of the computer WOPR in the
> movie Wargames. Maybe you should consider a nym change to WOPR...?
>
> LOL
Well, maybe WOPR Jr.
JTEM
"(<<Kelly>>)" <rosie_be...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> crunch <pchristain...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Knights Templar; Hiram Key; da Vinci
> Still nothing from you and your own words or
Thank goodness you're here to respond to Each. And.
Every. Single. One. of his posts, thus far stemming
the likelihood that the rest of us might mistaken
him for Shakespeare.
Seriously, "(<<Kelly>>)," dude (can I call you ">>"?),
if you're not suffering from a compulsion here, a need
to reply to "Crunch," if you are not exhibiting a
genuine mental disorder, prove it by NOT REPLYING TO
HIM.
Go on, give it up. Make it a New Year's resolution.
That is, if you are not suffering from a disorder,
and you are capable of stopping.
Thanks in advance, for nothing.
crunch
Grow up, kid.
vjp...@at.biostrategist.dot.dot.com
The Essenes and Qumran were a major fraud of the post-WW2 left.
Story of Qumran: How Not to Do Archaeology, Philip R Davies, Bibl Arch 12/88
p205 It would be very odd indeed to find anything like a Christian
monastery before the third century CE. WHether there was ever such a thing as
a Jewish monastery I simply don't know, but the excavated structures were
interpreted with this idea in mind. The well-fortified tower, inaccessible
from ground level, and evidence of military attack were downplayed. Prioroity
was given to the scriptorium and the "refectory" (the use of the latter term
is in itself significant)
p206 Qumran looks like part of an agricultural settlement that embraced
Ain Feshkha and was strategically placed for defensive purposes. I can see no
reason why the relevance of Qumran should be confined to the religious
disposition of its inhabitants
p207 I am beginning to hear my colleagues in archaeology say that a lack
of confidence in ceramic chronology is evident.
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crunch
Davies in 1988 was OK but let's get more
up-to-date. Please study in close detail
and comment -
Excerpts from a very important review, in Dead Sea Discoveries 11, 3,
of a book by the Israeli scholar Jodi Magness. The review, in
unusually
laudatory terms, marks a turning point in Qumran studies:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qumran_origin/message/5479
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Some rules of pesher
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qumran_origin/message/3185
"When the careful notes of distances of places that also appear in
John are studied – a place 15 stadia away from Jerusalem (plu) (Jn
11:18), another place 30 stadia away and at the same time 25 stadia
away (Jn 6:19) – this fact, together with many other details, shows
that Jerusalem in the plural form means Qumran. Each building south of
Qumran is exactly at the distance stated (queen’s house, Ain Feshkha,
Mazin). Luke’s note that another place was 60 stadia away from
Jerusalem (sing.) (Lk 24:13), with other detail, confirms that the
singular is used for the literal Jerusalem (actually the Essene Gate)
and the plural for Qumran. The reason was that when the Essenes were
expelled to Qumran they made it a reproduction Jerusalem, a New
Jerusalem. (There are plenty of parallels to this for both Americans
and Australians, reproduction of British place names.)"
Peace (after the Quaker fashion),
Sir David
trousers:
> Davies in 1988 was OK but let's get more
> up-to-date. Please study in close detail
> and comment -
>
Now wipe youself, Crunchy.
crunch
<UNFLUSH>
Grow up, kid.
Sir David
and produced:
> > > Excerpts from a very important review, in Dead Sea Discoveries <FLUSH>
>
> > Now wipe youself, Crunchy.
>
> <UNFLUSH>
>
> Grow up, kid.
By uttering his meaningless catch phrase, the Crunchy thing
acknowledges his utter failure as a sentient being. Oh how Carl wishes
he had a laugh-track to make him feel wanted. But no laugh track.
Nobody wants him. Nobody likes him. So he spends his days and nights
posting huge piles of hobbyhorse feces on Usenet.
Sucks to be you, Carl.
> > > Carl "Call me CARL" Crunchystain.
vjp...@at.biostrategist.dot.dot.com
that it was not a monastery. I appreciate the review.
crunch
Yet, the evidence shows that Qumran was a
monastery.
David Christainsen