Buddhism originates or parallels Gilgamesh Epic #1 Talk on Religion
Archimedes Plutonium
--- quoting Wikipedia for a date time on Gilgamesh ---
Gilgamesh (Akkadian cuneiform: Gilgameš, also known as Bilgames in the
earliest text[1]) was the fourth king of Uruk (Early Dynastic II,
first dynasty of Uruk), ruling 126 years, according to the Sumerian
king list. He was said to be contemporary with some of the earliest
archaeologically-known figures, placing his reign ca. 2500 BC.
According to the Tummal Inscription,[2] Gilgamesh, and his son
Urlugal, rebuilt the sanctuary of the goddess Ninlil, in Tummal, a
sacred quarter in her city of Nippur. Gilgamesh is the central
character in the Epic of Gilgamesh, the greatest surviving work of
early Mesopotamian literature.
--- end quoting ---
Now looking for a date-time on Siddhartha of 563 BC to 483BC.
Last Xmas, meaning last month of 2010 was a PBS show describing the
life and times
of the Buddha. A fine and excellent account of his life and the
religion he created with really
good music for the program.
But as the program was coming to an end, I was struck with the
unmistakable parallels to that of Gilgamesh story, and although
Gilgamesh never became a religion, perhaps it could have
and been a rather good religion.
The parallels of the two stories are very remarkably close. The Buddha
went out to find the secret of getting rid of "worldly pain and
suffering." Gilgamesh went out into the world to have
fun at his young age but when his companion died, he sought for
immortal life. So the Buddha
sought for release from pain and suffering and Gilgamesh sought for
immortal life.
Now the Buddha answers his quest with "enlightenment". And Gilgamesh
answers his quest
with the realization that "helping fellow human beings in building and
improving the world
is immortality itself."
So what I am thinking is that Mesopotamia is nearby to India and that
Siddhartha may have likely read the Gilgamesh Epic and knew it well.
So that the two histories, one of Gilgamesh
and one of Buddha were almost identical save for the Quest of one is
relieve of pain and suffering and the quest of the other is
immortality; and both come to a endresult that parallel
each other.
So does anyone from archaeology know if the story of the Gilgamesh was
known to India during the lifetime of Buddha? For it would not
surprize me in the least, that Buddha modeled
his life after that of Gilgamesh within a India context.
Archimedes Plutonium
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I believe so. I believe that is what the Puritans central theme of
their
religion-- do good for the common good, for society in whole is doing
God's work. And so Puritans relished in working and working long
hours.
And where a holiday is best expressed by doing more work.
Idleness and lazyness is anathema to God's master plan.
I am not sure, but I think the Puritans would even work on Sunday's
for that is the most holiest way of worship-- doing more of God's
work.
Elijahovah
and hate the truth merely because it mentiolns God.
However, truth is simple in this time of people who fail to see all
they have to
do is purge C-14 out of DNA and life would cease aging. This is proven
by the existence of Noah
who king GIlgamesh the king of Ereck spoke too.
Gilgamesh ruled 126 years from 2157-2031bc when longevity was cut 700
years
from Noah 940 to Peleg Mesanipada 240.
It is this year that the 360-day new year begins on Nov 1 as ALL
SAINTS YEAR
and begins the claim people ascend to heaven because they are kings
(young people appointed as elders and being old at 200 instead of
young like their parents).
so in 2030bc he went on quest to find Noah who is NOT at Ararat
because his wife has died and he went to Cyprus across the sea
to teach the building of ships.
Gilgamesh is surprised that any man can predict a global death by
flood
but cannot predict rapid aging that wipes out everyone 240.
And Noah gets preturbed at boring GIlgamesh and like Jesus he
says stay awake and youll find the answer. Instead Gilgamesh goes home
with a lie that he found the fruit but the serpent stole it.
Noah died in Cyprus (not in Dilmun of the Persian Gulf) on Dec 24 of
2021bc and priests in Babel then speak to Xisuthros the spirit for 40
days until the date Thoth 24 of 2020bc. This is why Zoroastrian
Christmas eve is 40 days after Greek Dec 24 Christmas eve.
The rise of Zoroastrian and Buddha and so many other Christ cults as
the return of Noah occur 365 leap days later (1460 years) in 560bc
including the crowning of Cyrus as being the avatar of Noah (VishNu).
However, they all teach heaven hell and the same concept that all
souls are eternal and do not die. They do not teach what Jesus said,
all are dead, few will ascend to heaven with him, and a resurrection
during his last day rule on earth will come after Year 6000.
Elijahovah
2240 bc Nov 18 is Damuzi new year foundation of Babel, rising of Mars
Narmer the son of Kish (Nimrod son of Cush) founded Babel with Peleg
Mesanipada (b.2269bc) just 5 km west of their birth city (Kish 2270
bc) where both Eber and Cush live. (13 year Damuzi is 13x 360d = 6x
780d Mars)
Peleg disputes with Narmer and leaves babel to found Ur
in 2239bc where his son Reu Aanipada is born.
177-year kingship of Ur is 6 orbits of Saturnalia (29.5 years each)
Peleg Mesanipada at 62 declares his son king on 10-01-764 (2207bc Feb
28) notation that 747bc honoring 1460 years of Thoth 1 as Feb 26 did
not exist in 2207bc because Egyptian calendar is 2030bc Pamenot 1 not
2770bc.Thoth 1. Further Feb 26 honors 2009bc Jupiter as thrice 83
years from Nimrod when he was 12 in 2258bc on its 360-day calendar
new
year Feb 26 (Noah's year 713) as 12-year Jupiter.
Notation 480 Julian later as 487x 360
days is noah's year 1200, adams 2256 in 1778bc. This is 13-year
marduk
but it is not the egyptian 365-day Marduk of 156-year Mars created in
1770bc as Noahs 1200 /Adams 2256.
Having been christened and appointed at 32 to be The Elder and The
king of all Ur, Reu Aanipada's new year as king is not Thoth 1 but
rather May 29 as Year 765 in 360-day calendar.
2207-2127 bc Reu Aanipada. at 62 Peleg Mesanipada the founder of Ur
his 80 years span ten cycles of 8-year Venus
watching the dispute between Ararat's 360-day calendar and Erecks
claim that Venus is seasonal for the new planet Earth.
Saturnalia around Leo-Regulus loops the star avery 2 orbits or 59
years appearing as 60 calendar years of 360 days.
beginning with September 2207 bc and May 6 of 2206 bc
to September 2148 bc and May 6 of 2147 bc
2177 bc birth of Nahor Alumdug who becomes priest at 20 in 2157 bc.
2170bc Narmer goes to Giza to start the pyramids (the Great Pyramid
takes 184 years to build and is finished in 1986 bc when 11th dynasty
makes himself the sole Pharaoh or chief king over the assembly of
kings (The House) for 43 years, but the pyramid fails the third time
of 92 years in Babylon's 1st year of kingship.1894 bc. False
traditions equate Pharaoh as Osiris because Osiris means reborn and
Capricorn Saturn is reborn in 1986bc as 13 orbits after the Flood.
Traditions also falsely equate pyramid Osiris as the reborn moon of
the 25-year calendar.
2148 bc Terah is born to Nahor Alumdug in the 10th year of king
Gilgamesh of Ereck
the word terah meaning earth is interfesting considering Nahor has
become priest for the whole earth.
2127-2091 bc Meskiag-Nannar becomes king for rpoving Venus has
returned in cycle 243 Julian years after Flood
at this point Venus is the great Mother Nannar, not the moon
His 36 years flip seasons 5 days per year and 9 leap days.
2091-2066 bc these 25 years of Elulu are honored by the month Elulu
II
only by inserting 9 intercalary Elulu II can the moon equal 25 years
of 365 days but this is confusing since Venus measures 24 years.
Leo-Regulus Saturnalia returns as September 2089 bc and May 6 of 2088
bc; this Saturnalia year is later mistaken as the birth of Terah 70
years before Abram was born in 2018bc instead of the 70 years from
2148-2078bc as birth of Haran.
2078bc Nahor Alumdug as priest has discovered in 2078 bc at the birth
of his grandson Haran Meskalumdug that 3600 new moons have occurred
since the flood on the winter solstice Jan 7 new moon. This year is
also 12.5 years of moons developing a 25-year moon of 25x 365 days if
9 intercalary are added of 30 days to total 9125 days.
2066-2030 bc Balulu is the last king until Peleg Mesanipada dies on
May 6 of 2030bc. Again the 36 years flips 180 lacking epagum days and
9 leap days.
2060bc Babel builds Marduk Temple to honor 13-year Damuzi new year .
It will become 52-year Marduk because Mars is at 90 degree right
angles every 52 years. The discovery as 52 years does not occur until
2009bc. After foundation of Marduk Temple, then Narmer (Nimrod) heads
north to found Nineveh. 360-day New year is April 7.
Suicide of Nahor Alumdug with family and Haran Meskalumdug with
family
occurs on Egyptian date Koyak 24 (10-24-340) in 2029bc.
The Shemetic Chaldean Hyksos already fled Ur early in 2030bc arriving
to build Memphis in 70 days May 8 to July 17, after stop to join
English Hitite Hyksos led by Shem Melchizedek to found Salem and
onward to found Memphis. Inaguration date of Salem in 2030bc is July
19 two days after memphis July 17 due to rise of Sothis. The July 19
date is exactly 340 years of 365 days from the 360-day new year of
the
flood. Shem was never called Melchizedek until 9 years later when
Noah died.
In 2029bc Ibbi-Sin at 30 is declared as a king tho no king is given
sole rule of 2nd dynasty Ur.
He establishes a chief king in Isan named Ishbi-Erra.the year Abram
(Iburram) is born 2018-2017bc. Isan develops the 25-year calendar for
Ur that Abram brought to Egypt when king Shulgi dies.
2009bc Babel tears down homes to build Marduk Street on July 9,
honoring 52 years.
to prevent workers from going to Babel \to buil;d this Street, king
Ur- Nammu of Ur makes himself chief king establishing 3rd dynasty Ur
for
108 years. he makes the decision to emnlarge the Nannar ziggurat.
Abram is 9 years old when these two projects are occurring. However,
Nimrod never returns from Nineveh to Babel. He heads to Egypt where
he
had started the pyramid in 2170bc.
Ur-Nammu is succeeded by Shulgi /Dungi our english word for shit,
during the 48 years Abram commutes between his new home in Harran and
his home in Ur. Apparently Haran Meskalumdug was drafted in 2060bc at
age 18 to go build Nineveh and so his own home city Harran was built
up north. At 49 for his 50th year he commits suicide in Ur with
grandfather Nahor possibly unaware of a pregnant wife at home in
Harran with baby Lot who will be 11 years older than uncle Abram.
Abram at 75 has discovered the difference between a 75-year moon (3x
25 years = 3x 309m) and a 76 year moon (4x19 years = 4x 235m), and
the 360-day calendar with 12-year Jupiter has now drifted its 36
orbits by
one year with its 432 calendar years ending in 1944bc when Jupiter or
Jova will not complete orbit until 427 years (433 calendar years) in
1943bc. Shulgi dies and his son AmraPal =AmarSin =AmraSin is going to
continue his father's use of ritual Dungi idols to record astral
records. Abram decides to leave due to ALL these factors that he sees
as JEHOVAH (God as he proves to be). Apparently he blames his false
worship in Ur as his reason for being childless (the effect of half-
sister sex not yet realized as miscarriages, he apparently is also
unclean from his foreskin retaining infection, a probability that
someone had reversed reality saying that fertile time for preganancy
is during days of blood). One must recall he was not only cleaned by
circumcision, but Sarah had been untouched for 14 years from the
onset
of menopause at 75 until 89. Scientific odds are that menopause can
last 14 years, menstruation can stop though one overy may release an
egg every two months. On an observation of science it would seem
Abram
cuaght the last egg of Sarah, though this is because the pregnancy
definately stopped all egg production after Isaac's birth.
Abram's seeding Sarah was not a miracle but rather an applicatipon
obedience to science (being obedient to Jehovah's nartural law), he
seeded Hagar when he was 85 and he seeded Keturah when he was older
than 137 at Sarah's death who was 127 apparently overworked if she
couldnt live Abram's 175. It is clear then that Sarah had
inflammation
of the womb allergic to the bacteria of Abram and so it was vital he
not touch her after he took Hagar to father Ishmael. It took her 14
years to lose the allergic reaction to him, which would be eliminated
when the bacteria under his foreskin is killed by circumcision
exposing to air. This is one indication that the angels may have been
men from Salem, and the man that Abram called JEHOVAH may actually
have been Shem Melchizedek who died when Abram was 150.
I had the recent experience of a coffee-shop bible studier call
these things heresy and conspiracy theories when he himself said Shem
outlived Abram which is not true. But at this moment i can see where
he would justify himself as true if he chose to say Abram was born
292
years after Flood not 352 years after. The birth of Haran 60 years
before Abram mistaken as Abram's birth would indeed move Abram from
dying 25 years after Shem to dying 35 years before Shem. This is the
case also with Jews who praise Mordecai for saving the king and fail
to see this was true when he didnt have the posotion to protect the
king, but once given the position he had failed to protect him
because
the king died that year, not 10 years later. So Mordecai ruled 1 year
beside the king (in fact not even a year) in 474bc because the 12th
year as sole king and the 21st year from co-regency are the same
year.
Zoroastrian dates occur 9 years (x 365 days minus 5 days) before
Egyptian dates, and match Babylon lunar cycle (1442bc) not Jewish
lunar cycle (1443bc).
Day Brown
not a Semetic, but an Aryan language. The Mitanni were an upland horse
culture in what is now northern Iran and Afghanistan.
The narrative is much as you outline it. But interestingly, Ryan and
Pitman, "Noah's Flood" show how the Great Flood in the Mitanni copy of
Gilgamesh is the earliest report of that disaster. Which was the flood
of the Euxine basin in 5600 BC to change the lake into the Black Sea.
In it, we read where Gilgamesh uses a canoe to return to a now submerged
sacred site, and dives down into the water to recover some sacred object
that will empower him to do the good you refer to. The Hinayana/Mahayana
spiritual choice.
That it would have been possible for him to do this makes sense if the
Great Flood happened as Pitman & Ryan reported. While land would have
been flooded, the trees that lined the roads would still stick up to
help him locate the temple, and it was not so deep he couldnt get down
to it.
The initial water level rise would have been dramatic; but as it spread
over the Danubian delta the area covered would increase rapidly, but not
the depth.
I have a copy of the Maitreyasamiti Texts in Tochaian A, which is a
conversation between the living Buddha and the Gautamid Queen of Kucha.
The copy dates from the 5th century. But when did this take place, or
was the whole thing concocted for political purposes much like Christian
or other sacred texts were?
So at this point I dont see much support for your notion of a tie
between Sumer and India, and what little I have seen suggests not.
http://www.prehistory.it/fase2/gradesnica.htm shows us inscriptions that
date from the era of Aryan unity 7000 years ago. Both Sumer & India
received Aryan traders bringing with them Aryan nomenclature. So, we'd
expect that nomenclature to include spiritual terms for religion.
Ballantine & Oswald, "Did The Proto-Indo-European Priesthood Commit
Treason in the era of PIE Unity" published in 1988, a decade before
"Noah's Flood" came out, so they didnt know about it. But they did know
some great catastrophe happened in the 6th millennia, and discuss the
dispersal of spiritual values, wardrobes, & ritual that were then
retained from Germany & Italy to India & Afghanistan.
Its in Afghanistan archeology finds the oldest trace of Buddhism. But by
the time of the Tocharian Texts, it was long gone, which we mite also
infer because of the Kuchan characterization of Afghan leaders as
"arrogant Sakyas". Which they still are.
--
When the Goddess invented sex, She was beside Herself.
Archimedes Plutonium
> date from the era of Aryan unity 7000 years ago. Both Sumer & India
> received Aryan traders bringing with them Aryan nomenclature. So, we'd
> expect that nomenclature to include spiritual terms for religion.
>
> Ballantine & Oswald, "Did The Proto-Indo-European Priesthood Commit
> Treason in the era of PIE Unity" published in 1988, a decade before
> "Noah's Flood" came out, so they didnt know about it. But they did know
> some great catastrophe happened in the 6th millennia, and discuss the
> dispersal of spiritual values, wardrobes, & ritual that were then
> retained from Germany & Italy to India & Afghanistan.
>
> Its in Afghanistan archeology finds the oldest trace of Buddhism. But by
> the time of the Tocharian Texts, it was long gone, which we mite also
> infer because of the Kuchan characterization of Afghan leaders as
> "arrogant Sakyas". Which they still are.
> --
> When the Goddess invented sex, She was beside Herself.
Thanks for that information. It appears to be a good bet that the
Buddha
had read and known the Gilgamesh story. And surprized to know that
Gilgamesh would have traveled far outside the Middle East and had gone
north.
AP
Day Brown
> Thanks for that information. It appears to be a good bet that the
> Buddha
> had read and known the Gilgamesh story. And surprized to know that
> Gilgamesh would have traveled far outside the Middle East and had gone
> north.
adopters in literacy, collecting and trading narratives like any other
commodity.
RG Wasson, Persephone's Quest, suggests there was a north/south "Soma
Raod"; which would have crossed the Silk Road. Drugs have always been
profitable enuf to ship long distances, and indeed, EW Barber, "The
Mummies of Urumchi" reports on two ashrams in what is now the Kara Kum,
at Gonor and Togoluk, where opium, cannabis, and ephedra were found,
abandoned to the desert 4000 years ago.
Then too, The Maitreyasamiti Texts in Tocharian A, which is a
conversation between the living Buddha and the Gautamid Queen of Kucha,
was found in what is now NW China. The copy dates from the 5th century,
altho I dont think the language it was written in was 1000 years old. In
any case, its a long way from India.
I saw a report of a mail bag found in the Kara kum, with letters written
on paper; dated 331 AD, long before most historians thot paper was
invented. But whatever, they also had parchment and birchbark for
documents that are far less fragile and heavy than clay tablets. Then,
as now, the merchant class had the money to afford to collect & trade.
So- I'm not at all surprised to see the Aryan myth of Gilgamesh make it
to the Mitanni, and thence down to the Semites. Conversely, we've seen
Semite writings make it all over the world to parts no Semite actually
set foot.
Finally, now they use forensic exam of minerals in bones and teeth- in
particular a report last year of a man found in Britain, who grew up on
a diet of Mediterranean seafood- a couple thousand years ago. What tales
did he bring with?
To clarify one point, the Mitanni Gilgamesh never lived in the Mid East,
but like the above mentioned Buddha, his name was attached to tales
found there. What is more useful is to see how the narrative matches
what we think happened in the Euxine basin in 5600 BC.
Daryl Krupa
<snip>
> What is more useful is to see how the narrative matches
> what we think happened in the Euxine basin in 5600 BC.
What is more useful yet is knowing that your"we"
does not include the scientific community in general,
or William Ryan in particular.
The Black sea flood hypothesis in
Ryan's and Walter Pitman's "Noah's Flood" has been
widely and conclusively debunked, and Ryan has developed
another hypothesis that has any Black Sea flood happening
at least a millenium-and-a-half earlier than 5600 BC.
From:
http://www.whoi.edu/oceanus/viewArticle.do?id=58886
"Liviu Giosan of Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (WHOI) and
Florin Filip and Stefan Constantinescu of the University of Bucharest
found evidence that Black Lake/Sea water levels rose
only 5 to 10 meters around 9,400 years ago,
not 50 to 60 meters as Ryan and his colleagues proposed."
Abundant evidence of Ryan's and Pitman's mistaken conclusions
was available in 2002.
From:
http://home.entouch.net/dmd/bseaflod.htm
"In Oct 2002, as documented below, _Marine Geology_ dedicates
an entire issue to the Black Sea Flood hypothesis.
Almost all authors are negative. The paper which includes
William Ryan as an author doesn't mention or defend
the Noah's Flood hypothesis, which is surprising since
he is one of the authors of that hypothesis. This is usually a sign
that
the idea is no longer supported."
_Maring Geology_ was the journal in which Ryan's and Pitman's
one-and-only scientific paper in their hypothesis appeared.
You know all this, and more.
Stop promoting a false impression of pre-history.
- Daryl Krupa
Day Brown
searching for "Noah's Ark" would never be reported, and high school
biology teachers would dare to get into evolution. There's a vast army
who sees the economic support from the followers of Levantine scripture
if they can debunk Ryan & Pitman.
As for the recantation, all I've seen is some quibble over the dating,
which in large part is due to making the C-14 and dendochronology match.
The FACT remains, which JP Mallory mentions, is that the original Aryan
language lacks words for the marine environment but not freshwater. This
only makes sense if the basin was freshwater in the era of PIE unity.
Which everyone agrees did exist.
Ballantine & Oswald, publishing in 1988, knew nothing whatever of Ryan &
Pitman's flood, but from other evidence say there was some kind of great
social crisis in the mid 6th mil.
Ballantine, Oswald, Gimbutas, Mallory, Frazer, Campbell, and others all
see the social unity that produced PIE, and all have difficulty trying
to figure out just where this occurred- a difficulty that is removed if
Ryan and Pitman are correct.
Moreover, "Noah's Flood" mentions the uplift and subsidence- which is
still going on due to tectonic forces. Nobody really knows what the
elevation was in different parts of the region at the time. Ryan notes
the Sakarya river valley was carved out by a vastly bigger flow than the
puny creek now coming down out of the mountains, and sees where it
formerly flowed from the Euxine basin to the sea of Marmara. Which it
cant do now because of subsequent uplift.
But if it were not for the challenge to Levantine scripture, nobody
would much care about this prehistory. But there's a ton of money behind
Levantine religions to be tapped into by anyone pandering to their
sensibilities.
Elijahovah
irrevelent to the disaster itself which is the meltdown of the
Mohoravic discontinuity layer from asteroid impact and the resulting
magma tsunami for 12-15 months of which the first 5 months is the
collapse occurring in intervals of lunar tug.
That disaster was a Yucatan impact of 2370bc Julian Nov 20 after which
date Noah packed for 7 days.
The C-14 levels being 12 times less with the water vapor canopy
(correction outer hail above water vapor above water droplets ever-
cycling its layers) had finally been exausted after several previous
impacts prior to Adam had caused these global year-long Floods before
as they created the known solidified ocean sediments which BUILD UP
all continents. Continental layers themselves dont build up until
they're above sea level, the density of light volcanic rocks and mixes
is what makes them lighter on the Earth's mantle than deep dense ocean
water so that they literally float easier on the mantle (Mohoravic
layer) than ocean plates do with water on them. Of course in impact
the viscosity of the water will uplift ocean plates before land plates
which is why the land plates collapse for the year.
However, the rule of Gilgamesh for 126 years (2157-2031bc) during the
reign of Peleg Mesanipada's son Reu Aanipada's 80 years (2207-2127bc)
as well as Meskiag-Nannar to 2091bc, Elulu to 2066bc, and Balulu to
2030bc is disrupted by the "flood" of death in Adam's year 1996am with
people dying at 240 while Noah is 940. So although Noah's wife is
dead, king Gilgamesh goes to Ararat to find him, and is told by Ham's
wife who is tending Noah's vineyard (and later she moves to Ereck and
rules) that Noah is to be foond across the Great Sea building ships
for Kittim Cyprus. After Gilgamesh leaves Ararat, there are enough
Hyksos kings from all Chaldea, and Ur, and Hitites in Ararat who in
2030bc request of Shem what to do and he leads them to build Salem
arriving before the Sothic set of May 6 while half continue on to
build Noph Mizraim (Memphis Egypt) arriving before Sothic set of May
8. just 72 days and foundation is declared July 17, while Salem's 74
days declares foundation on July 19. The calendar created is for
Epagum 1 on July 12 and Pamenot 1 on July 17. Meanwhile, this flood of
death (short life) in 1996am has been memorialized by Maya according
to Spinden because they place this as a flood or global destruction in
3374bc as 260 years before Mayan Noah's Flood as Adam's year 2256am in
3114bc (double the 180 solar leap days 744 years to true Flood 2370bc
and 744 years to the true Venus source of Amizaduga's Venus Tablets of
1626bc).
The true yerar 2256am is not the Flood which ended Methuselah's
969 years as last of the gods as if Noah's 950 is not equal to his
grandfather, but rather is Hamurabi's year 1770bc when Narmer died in
Abydos Egypt as the last god dying at age 500 and marked by the
Quetzalcoatl Phoenix (the Venus firebird of July 10 the same day as
Tamuz which is Mars crossed by the sun and confirmed by Solomon in
997bc when the date proves Mars as 773 Julian years not 780 years),
having the name Menes for 250 years since Noah's death when he created
the Pharaoh or HOUSE as an assembly of kings to replace Noah as
supreme authority, and for this they started calling Narmer by the
name Nimrod. The Hindu refused to call him Mena because to them Manu
(Man-Nu) would always be irreplaceable Noah).
When Noah died on Dec 24 in 2021bc, that date being 17 days before
THOTH would not become POP 0 by the Maya until 1314bc when Pop 0 is
July 1, and 1313bc when Pop 1 is July 1. The 40 days of Noah's seance
is the poem of Xisuthros. Xisuthros is the origin of the Greek word
Christos, but he is the last king before the Flood who must flee back
to heaven with the rest of his kind (the angels) who by materializing
nitrogen air as C14 to create a body to live in has infected man with
C14 above tolerable levels causing humans to age and die under 1000
years. GOd has since shown us C14 can be higher yet to the point that
our DNA has carbon-14 turning back into nitrogen and withering us away
in 70-80 years. But when the next asteroid restores the canopy, the
specilaq chosen 144,000 will not rule earth in flesh as those angels
did because they now know it kills us to live among us. That angel
Xisuthros rose to heaven during the 40-day Flood, but he lied he is
not Noah rising in 40 days after his death. That seance is marked
ending as Zoroastrian Christmas eve Thoth 24 (2020bc Feb 2), which
secondly is also the start of the Chinese 60-day calendar on 360-day
calendar date 5-27 whose cycle of 60 days goes also back to the least
day 40 of Flood on 3-27, and thirdly is Mayan date Zip 0 so that 40
days measure from Pop 0 to Zip 0.
All things confirmed, there are two issues. Those who feel this
belongs with the fabricated sci-fi trash; and then those who have
ALTERNATIVE sci-fi crap they worship and follow be it Velchovsky or
Sitchen or Jose Arguelles. Satan doesnt care which crap you follow as
long as it is not the truth, and he gets you to regard the truth as
being the crap. But what i know in my herat felt research, no man
could learn before the next asteroid strike. In prayer when i asked fo
rit in 1983, i specifically said not that it be accepted by anyone on
this planet, but that it serve to condemn all by saying nothing was
hidden from the world or all people, what is coming should not be a
surprise, it doesnt need all the dead to come back to speak the truth
of true history. It can be known NOW before Armageddon, and before all
the dead return in the second chance, the next world soon to arrive.
Gilgamesh died before Noah during those 10 years from 2031-2021bc.
Peleg Mesanipada died on 2030bc May 6, and 365 days later on May 5
(Koiak 24) Nahor Alumdug & Haran Meskalumdug forced their families to
commit suicide to join Peleg as the Christ in heaven. The Hindu
accepted Noah's death (2021bc Dec 24 to 2020bc Feb 2) as the Christ
(Xisuthros) and so made him the V-ish-Nu who sits between the creator
Brahma and the destroyer Siva, though they later calculate his birth
as Hindu Noah's Flood of 3102bc with Manu as the avatar incarnate of
Vishnu.
God Jehovah has diluted C14, and will continue to do so with burning
the billions of gallons of oil, along with volcanic carbon in the
eruptions to come during asteroid impact. The land again will collapse
1-2 miles so that eruptining mountain peaks will not be covered by
water, and when the Pacific Ocean is struck, the water vapor canopy
will be restored. Earth's axis tilt will lesson, since the current
tilt was produced by the Yucatan impact on Nov 20 (G.Oct 31), it is
logical an impact to restore canopy is not only Pacific, but south of
the equator to change the tilt to the desiored lesser angle.
GRIN SAY GOODBYE TO TAHITI
Elijahovah
2020bc Feb 2 as a seance speaking to Xisuthros ten years after
Gilgamesh spoke to Noah in Cyprus asking him how the hell can you
predict a world Flood that no one else can see as true, and yet you
cant tell us why everyone is aging fast and dying 700 years younger
than you Noah. Look you will never die Noah, he says. But Noah speaks,
and it bores Gilgamesh and he sleeps. He says like Jesus said stay
awake you will not always have me.
The avatar expectation of Noah is 1460 years mistaking 365 leap days
when next world or new world is misinterpreted as next cycle or new
calendar cycle. That year 560bc makes Cyrus as king, easily
predictable by Isaiah, in fact induced. Using the name Cyrus
encourages those with that name to feel they are the one. Cyrus had a
grandfather who either existed at the time of Isaiah or was easily
named by his mother as such upon hearing the world say the Christ's
name will be Cyrus. Buddha is the exact same time table, be it death
of 2030bc to 570bc, or Noah 2020-560bc.
Jesus said many have come as Christ before me, and many will come as
Christ after me. And he didnt mean those after him would claim to be
Jesus, as the Pope does, or christening on 800ad Dec 25 the French
king of the world. Mohammed is such a Christ in 622ad and this is 8
year Venus before Pacal Shield Votan of Palenque is Christ.
But i woudl like to point out that it is today 2011 Jan 29 Sat. that I
realize the connection between Christos and Xisuthros must be true,
especially not the death of Noah in 2020bc but the claim by that
spirit in 2020bc that he is the one who built the ark and saved man
being that he was the last king before the Flood. That he is being
malice and mocking is proven by his saying the ark was 9x9x9 knowing
full well a cube will spin and roll.
Day Brown
> Buddha is the avatar of Noah...
The diff between the Aryan Vedic and the Semitic Levantine tradition is
that while the latter takes the written record literally, and places
great store on it being the 'veritable word of god', the former regards
the truth as allegorical.
In large part this traces back to the dualism of the latter, where
everyone is either good or evil, blessed or cursed, while the vision of
the former is nuanced with a myriad interpretations.
It does not matter egzactly when the great flood happened, nor precisely
how much of the land flooded; by then there already were Aryan agrarian
communities up the Danube/Dneipr watershed with plenty more of fertile
alluvial land to be developed.
Its instructive to consider that not everyone would have gone the same
way; and indeed there is ongoing work in Iran at agrarian villages that
suddenly emerge at the end of the 6th mil, exactly when we'd expect
Great Flood refugees to show up.