Hey, sick fuck posting as "Lee" (etc)

[JTEM]

We both know that you suffer from
a severe personality disorder, that
you post under numerous names,
numerous personalities.

This is a fact. We both know it.

Anyhow, even if those I.P. addresses
you keep posting were mine (and they
are not), that couldn't change a thing.
You're still a mentally disturbed troll.
You still suffer from a severe
personality disorder, you still post
under a number of identities, a number
of different personalities.

...every last one of them a goddamn
idiot. I mean, you couldn't even figure
out this much on your own!

[Lee Olsen]

"JTEM" <j_deerfi...@hotmail.com>
Jack Teehan <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
In His Glory: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
On Sep 25, 5:36 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We both know
JTEM is a habitual sock puppet.
Let's try to get some help for it.

[JTEM]

Sick fuck, Lee Olsen wrote:
[--demented spewings--]

[Lee Olsen]

On Sep 26, 9:17 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sick fuck

"JTEM" <j_deerfi...@hotmail.com>
Jack Teehan <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
In His Glory: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153

JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/4v2ed4s
>Like I said, go on: Jump!

http://tinyurl.com/7vflru7
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 20:36:39 -0800 (PST)
JTEM wrote:
>You must cut open your tongue with a razor.

This thing is getting scary.

[JTEM]

[Lee Olsen]

"JTEM" <j_deerfi...@hotmail.com>
Jack Teehan <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
In His Glory: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153

On Sep 27, 11:09 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We both know that

Message-ID: <87ocvgs2...@nospam.pacbell.net>
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009

"JTEM is repeating a number of his lies, hoping some will
stick including

1. lies about my identity (Bill Taylor is someone
else.)

(and, depending on the post)

2. lies about what I posted.

3. lies about what a discussion is about.

The extent to which he is lying is strong evidence that
he is in fact a pathlogical liar. He has reduced himself
to figuratively getting into bed with Bill Taylor, one of
the most rabid homophobes plaguing this/these newsgroups
while pretending to be just the opposite.

And he's been complaining that I'm giving him a default
response when he posts the same lies over and over in spite
of the obvious fact that he is posting his garbage merely
as harassment (and possibly as an indication that he suffers
from Tourette syndrome given the language he often uses).

Until he has something substantial to contribute and can
express himself civilly, this idiot will get this canned
reply."

Yep, same sick routine, different list, different person attacked.
JTEM, obviously, is pleading for help all over the net.

[JTEM]

[Lee Olsen]

"JTEM" <j_deerfi...@hotmail.com>
Jack Teehan <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
In His Glory: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153

On Sep 28, 11:05 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is a fact.  We both know it.
>
> Anyhow, even if those I.P. addresses
> you keep posting were mine (and they
> are not),

It would still make you and them sock puppets.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sock%20puppet
sock puppet
1: A fake personality, usually a 'friend' or 'sister,' created by a
drama queen/king for the sake of defending him/herself against others
in an online forum.

2: Someone who might be an actual person but behaves like the above,
defending someone who really deserves no defense.

http://tinyurl.com/2bclbfy
JTEM 12 Dec 2007 04:18 GMT
"I've also posted many, many, many other "fake" articles in
other groups, which few people didn't recognize as parody.
Yes, even when posted under a different name people had
no problems seeing that they were parodies."

[JTEM]

Sick fuck, Lee Olsen wrote:

[---Insane rant---]

We both know that you suffer from
a severe personality disorder, that
you post under numerous names,
numerous personalities.

This is a fact. We both know it.

Anyhow, even if those I.P. addresses
you keep posting were mine (and they

[Lee Olsen]

On Sep 30, 12:27 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sick fuck

Yep, that's a pretty sick reply.
Same rant, just directed at different people, different groups.

Message-ID: <95u1m35kgle3iht43...@4ax.com>
"Posting under various aliases is sock puppetry, that's how it is
defined.
Word games won't get you out of it.


People take your parodies seriously (that's clear from the ones
you've
posted under the name jtem), and I suspect that you get a kick out of
that
- which suggests you are deliberately trolling. That you also post
them
under other aliases certainly looks like trolling.


Responses to a recent post of yours in talk.origins:
"JTEM is actually on the side of science and evolutionary theory; I'm
sure that his heading is parody. However - he is unnecessarily
confrontational, and it is often over ideas that are unsupported by
the evidence, or are not well thought out, and he doesn't always take
well to being corrected or informed. "


"t has been a long time since I have visited this group and I have
lost a sense of the disposition of regular posters. I apologize to
JTEM for mistaking his post as that of a creationism advocate. I am
sorry, sir. Nonetheless, I encourage any of the creationists viewing
my post to simply replace JTEM's name with theirs and maintain the
scientific challenge regarding outrageous biblical claims. Imagine if
those in the evolutionary biology camp suddenly started maintaining
that because there is no proof that men can walk on water
evolutionary
theory is therefore proven. Can you picture the outcry from
creationists? "


Other comments from posters in t.o:
" All the
intelligence leaves the conversation when JTEM snips out all serious
discussion without comment, so that he can focus exclusively on
insults
and responding to "counter attacks", as you call them. "


"JTEM is interesting, in that he apparently holds a view of evolution
that either discounts or ignores molecular data, and strongly
disagrees
with people who believe that the molecular data are good indicators
of
evolution. I've found his explanations of why he holds this
viewpoint
to be obtuse, not well explained, and laced with sarcasm and
'put-downs'.


As a result, JTEMs views on the issue are not very approachable, and
I
still have no clear idea of why he disdains the molecular evidence,
other than he's convinced that it is somehow wrong. It's a pity
because I learn quite a bit from the professional disagreements
presented here.


It is entirely predictable that these behaviors are acting like a
lightning rod on this n.g., and I have to wonder if that isn't JTEMs
intent. "


(to JTEM);"Why can't you respond without
injecting insults and sarcasm? Any meaningful content is swamped by
the noise in your message. "


"I take from this that you have no intention of laying off the stupid
and useless insults. So be it. "


"You frequenty ignore serous posts:


-You ignored my post where I explained the difference between the
idea
that "random means an event can't be repeated" and the idea that
"repeats can be evidence against randomness".


-You ignored me when I explained precisely why the words "over time"
are not superfluous in the sentence "change in allelle frequency
within
a population over time".


-You pretty much ignored my criticisms of your 'dog giving birth'
analogy.


-You ignored my reply to your criticism of the 'candy bowl' analogy.


-You ignored my detailed description of my idea of evolution,
genetics
and natural selection.


-You ignored my example of a time when another evolution corrected
something that I said.


All of these posts were in conversations between the two of us, in
many
cases I was answering a direct question of yours. They were all 100%
serious. It's possible that you considered them so ridiculous that
they didn't warrant a reply, but then that's not the kind of thing
you
do, if they were really that ridiculous you would have pointed it out
and tried to make me look stupid. The problem here is that they
completely refuted something that you said, and I you couldn't admit
to
it. You are a coward, plain and simple. "


about JTEM:
"Yes, since the one in question just showed up yet
again to declare that mere factual incorrectness in
each and every case doesn't mean he ever lost an
argument. That makes him pure essense of Troll. I
guess JTEM has some "Humpty Dumpty word
meanings"-style definition of what "JTEM lost this
argument" would mean. "
and in the same post:
""I guess that's why they call JTEM's ignorance,
invincible!"


"This is just part and parcel of a long chain of
evidence JTEM has provided here of being abjectly
stupid. Identifying JTEM as once again proven stupid
in JTEM's own writing is hardly breaking new ground
in talk.origins. "


From the thread you started called
GOD MADE ADAM AND EVE!
"The problem is the difficulty of distinguishing JTEMist argument
from
JTEMist parody. "


I particularly like this one:
"Ok....you can insult me one more time...it's what you do best when
you
have no argument. "


And from Mark Isaak:
"The "like watching a train wreck" analogy comes to mind, but it is
not
really valid. Train wrecks are not nearly as fascinating; their
twisted
wreckage looks pristine compared to JTEM.


I particularly like how he quotes himself and thinks he has proved
that
someone else said something. "


So it's not most of the posters in the threads in sci.archaeology and
soc.history.ancient don't think much of JTEM (that's putting it
mildly)."
Doug

[JTEM]

[Lee Olsen]

On Sep 30, 11:28 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We both know that you suffer from
> a severe personality disorder, that
> you post under numerous names,
> numerous personalities.

Received: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 14:59:41 -0700 (PDT)
Newsgroups: sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.archaeology
Subject: Look, everyone, look!
From: Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
>I need only crank the organ and the monkey will dance!

Mar 24, 5:23 pm
Lee Olsen wrote:
> > Cranking your organ is the only job you ever had.

JTEM replies with this classic Freudian slip (forgetting to use his
'Seth' handle and using "I" instead):

On Mar 25, 5:03 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you a sick fuck because you sexualize everything
> I say, or do you sexualize everything I say because
> you're a sick fuck?

Everything "I" say? What happened to sock puppet 'Seth' who made the
post?
JTEM has proven himself to be the dumbest sock puppet on the planet.

JTEM 12 Dec 2007 04:18 GMT
"I've also posted many, many, many other "fake" articles in
other groups, which few people didn't recognize as parody.
Yes, even when posted under a different name people had
no problems seeing that they were parodies."

Multiple IPs, multiple emails, multiple-personality disorder.
See a shrink, sicko.

[JTEM]

We both know that you suffer from
a severe personality disorder, that
you post under numerous names,
numerous personalities.

[Lee Olsen]

"JTEM" <j_deerfi...@hotmail.com>
Jack Teehan <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
In His Glory: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153

On Oct 1, 10:18 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyhow, even if those I.P. addresses
> you keep posting were mine

So what? That has some meaning in the real world where anyone can use
multiple IPs?

>
> ...every last one of them a goddamn
> idiot. I mean, you couldn't even figure
> out this much on your own!

Oh really?

Watch JTEM forget that he posted using one of his many sock puppets
(in this case Seth Dwight) , then answers my reply using the usual
pseud JTEM, forgetting to morph back into sock puppet Seth:

Received: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 14:59:41 -0700 (PDT)
Newsgroups: sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.archaeology
Subject: Look, everyone, look!
From: Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
>I need only crank the organ and the monkey will dance!

Mar 24, 5:23 pm
Lee Olsen wrote:
> > Cranking your organ is the only job you ever had.

JTEM replies with this classic Freudian slip (forgetting to use his
'Seth' handle and using "I" instead):

On Mar 25, 5:03 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you a sick fuck because you sexualize everything
> I say, or do you sexualize everything I say because
> you're a sick fuck?

Everything "I" say? What happened to sock puppet 'Seth' who made the
post?
JTEM has proven himself to be the dumbest sock puppet on the planet.

JTEM 12 Dec 2007 04:18 GMT
"I've also posted many, many, many other "fake" articles in
other groups, which few people didn't recognize as parody.
Yes, even when posted under a different name people had
no problems seeing that they were parodies."

Multiple IPs, multiple emails, multiple-personality disorder.

Get some help, sicko.

[JTEM]

Apparently cutting & pasting some
things and then misunderstanding
them isn't quite as conclusive as
your mental illness leads you to
believe.

I hope the FBI stops you before you
cause the next Colorado movie
theater...

[Lee Olsen]

"JTEM" <j_deerfi...@hotmail.com>
Jack Teehan <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
In His Glory: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153

On Oct 2, 11:13 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Apparently cutting & pasting some
> things and then misunderstanding
> them isn't quite as conclusive as
> your mental illness leads you to
> believe.

Really?

JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/4v2ed4s
>Like I said, go on: Jump!

http://tinyurl.com/7vflru7
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 20:36:39 -0800 (PST)
JTEM wrote:
>You must cut open your tongue with a razor.

> I hope the FBI stops you before you
> cause the next Colorado movie
> theater...

We'll see about that.

[JTEM]

Sick fuck, Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Total and regional bone density in male runners, cyclists, and
> controls.
> Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise. 32(8):1373-1377, August
> 2000.

So tell us why you think this cite is relevant -- what
it shows and how it shows it.

Are you claiming that there are similar comparisons
between physically active and unactive pre homo
ancestors demonstrating the same bone growth? Let's
see some cites.

As is, you have said nothing. You posted a cite that
looks relevant to your twisted brain, and imaged some
sort of proof. For what? We are left to guess.

You're an idiot.

[Lee Olsen]

On Oct 5, 10:22 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sick fuck

"JTEM" <j_deerfi...@hotmail.com>
Jack Teehan <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
In His Glory: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153

[JTEM]

Apparently cutting & pasting some
things and then misunderstanding
them isn't quite as conclusive as
your mental illness leads you to
believe.

[Lee Olsen]

"JTEM" <j_deerfi...@hotmail.com>
Jack Teehan <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
In His Glory: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153

On Oct 8, 7:29 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I hope the FBI stops you before you
> cause the next Colorado movie
> theater...

[JTEM]

Apparently cutting & pasting some
things and then misunderstanding
them isn't quite as conclusive as
your mental illness leads you to
believe.

[Lee Olsen]

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/life/discover/2012/10/15/357634/Kennewick-Man.htm
By Kim Murphy--
"The long-running detective saga involving one of North America's
earliest inhabitants has taken a new twist, with the discovery that
Kennewick Man — the shockingly intact 9,300-year-old skeleton
unearthed in 1996 on the banks of the Columbia River — probably was a
visitor to central Washington, not a longtime resident."

JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/4v2ed4s
>Like I said, go on: Jump!

http://tinyurl.com/7vflru7
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 20:36:39 -0800 (PST)
JTEM wrote:
>You must cut open your tongue with a razor.

[JTEM]

On Oct 14, 10:27 pm, Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.chinapost.com.tw/life/discover/2012/10/15/357634/Kennewick...

> By Kim Murphy--
> "The long-running detective saga involving one of North America's
> earliest inhabitants has taken a new twist, with the discovery that
> Kennewick Man — the shockingly intact 9,300-year-old skeleton
> unearthed in 1996 on the banks of the Columbia River — probably was a
> visitor to central Washington, not a longtime resident."

The link goes on to say that this "Kennewick Man" came
from the coast, that he apparently was born & raised on
the coast and then moved inland at some point.

This is completely consistent with all the other evidence for
America's settlement by boat. If anything, the only surprise
here is how LATE (recent) the water culture was still
prevalent.

KENNEWICK MAN IS NOT PRE CLOVIS!

He dates to long after the estimated opening of the
ice corridor... but still MUCH earlier than what "Lee
Olsen" (etc) claims for the arrival of boats in America.

: He was most similar to the Moriori, a Polynesian people
: in the Chatham Islands, near New Zealand. He is also
: like the Moriori's ancestors, the Ainu, who lived in coastal
: areas of mainland Asia 15,000 years ago.

This seems to confirm what I've been saying for years:

Population Threshold.

People have been coming to the Americas starting when
they first could. Period. The first arrivals followed a
coastline which no longer exists -- it's under 100 meters or
more of water -- and nobody is even looking for them. many
did move inland, hundreds if not thousands of them, but
the Americas are so huge that the odds of finding any trace
of them are miniscule, and even if they were found barely
anyone would tell them apart from much, much, much more
recent Indians.

The Americas had to cross a population threshold -- reach
a certain population density -- before there stopped being
isolated groups... families... individuals and an actual culture
could form. A culture requires some sort of contact -- shared
knowledge/history/etc -- and we see that for the first time with
Clovis.

"Clovis Culture."

Before the ice corridor opened you'd be hard pressed to
move even a large family together to the Americas. They
had to travel by boat -- nothing any bigger or better than
a canoe -- and that just wouldn't be very practical with
large groups. But, once the ice corridor opened whole
populations migrate all at once.

The DNA is consistent with this. The small local population
was quickly swamped by large numbers of new arrivals,
whom by sheer weight of numbers eclipsed the genetic
heritage of the long-timers.

It's sort of like if 20,000 people from France moved to an
Italian village of a few hundred. With pretty much only
each other to mate with, it won't take more than a few
generations before the Italian DNA markers are gone...

Every time an Italian male mated with a French female,
the Italian mtDNA is lost. And every time an Italian
female mates with a French male, the Italian Y-Chromosome
is lost. Because of the numbers inequity, it's only a
matter of time before you won't be able to find the
Italian heritage at all, not in the DNA "Evidence."

[Lee Olsen]

On Oct 21, 4:11 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>The DNA is consistent with this.

On Apr 26, 12:11 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
<Re: mtDNA is useless>