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GROOVE YOU

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Mar 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/17/96
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The egyptians come from a culture that was more advanced , and less
barbaric than the romans or greeks. To the egyptians sex was just a simple
part of life like taking a bath, it wasnt taken way out of context and
twisted into perverbia. In the culture of egypt, you didnt find the
pediphile or the homosexual or the barbarous mass murderer with his
deviant sexual habits.All of these were from cultures that levitated
towards the shallow animalistic instincts of nature, they were barbaric.
The egyptians were more concerned with the improving of ones self
spiritually and intelectually . They were studing the movement of the
stars,they were interested in life after death and building cities,
obtaining a orgasm was not the biggest objective on there priority list.

Greg Reeder

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Mar 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/18/96
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seno...@aol.com (SenorMesa) wrote:
>Does anyone know why there is such a scarcity of female
>nudes in ancient egyptian art? Maybe the books I have
>just don't have any. If you compare the art of ancient
>greece or roman art, it seems like the egyptians were
>almost Victorian. Why is this? Or where are the nudes?
>I can only think of ONE little sculture (that Carter
>supposedly "stole" from the Tutahnkamen tomb) of a
>female nude. Was it against their religion, or what?
>
>Thanks,
>Scott in Atlanta

There are several scenes in tombs of the New Kingdom that I can think of
showing scenes of female nudes. See the Theban tombs of Deserkarasonb
(no.38), The tomb of Nakht (no.52), and the Tomb of Ramose (no.55)
Reproductions of these nudes can be found in Egyptian Painting, 1978
Skira and Rizzoli, And check out the article in KMT: A Modern Journal of
Ancient Egypt, vol.6,no.4, Winter 1995-96 for "Seeing Through Ancient
Egyptian Clothes,"
by L. Green.
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SenorMesa

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Mar 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/18/96
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Hey "groove",
What does nude art have to do with perversion?
And how do you know the Egyptians didn't have
all the rotten human deviants that follow historical
timelines? You are romanticising. I've seen plenty
of Egyptian art that shows they were just as
human as any other culture.
Scott

Peter Szabo

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Mar 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/18/96
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And do you (or anyone) attribute this to natural human behaviour?
The Egyptians attributed this to the teachings of the gods.
The Romans's and Greeks practically made up there own gods and lived by
there own rules. There Emperor thought he was a god.

No doubt the belief in gods has a profoundly benevolent effect on a
people. Take your average modern day Christian. Almost all that I've
met were extremely nice people.

Could it be that they are positively affected by a MASSIVE white lie?

Personally I don't think so.

--
The fool doth think he is wise,
but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.
-William Shakespeare

Greg Reeder

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groo...@aol.com (GROOVE YOU) wrote:
>The egyptians come from a culture that was more advanced , and less
>barbaric than the romans or greeks. To the egyptians sex was just a simple
>part of life like taking a bath, it wasnt taken way out of context and
>twisted into perverbia. In the culture of egypt, you didnt find the
>pediphile or the homosexual or the barbarous mass murderer with his
>deviant sexual habits.All of these were from cultures that levitated
>towards the shallow animalistic instincts of nature, they were barbaric.
>The egyptians were more concerned with the improving of ones self
>spiritually and intelectually . They were studing the movement of the
>stars,they were interested in life after death and building cities,
>obtaining a orgasm was not the biggest objective on there priority list.
This is silly. Just because the Egyptians did not show blatant sex
scenes does not mean that they didn't consider sex in an erotic and
sensuel context.Scenes of banqueting in the tombs are loaded with sexual
symbolism. Maybe a little more exciting than taking a bath.See Lisa
Maniche's book on sex and sexuality in ancient Egypt. And there are
"pornographic" representations that have survived. As far as the
homosexual in ancient Egypt this is an open question. See my tour of the
Tomb of Niankhkhnum and Khnumhotep at
http://www.sirius.com/~reeder/niankh.html. Equating homosexuality with
pedophilia and mass murder tells us much about your little prejudices.
AND see the story of the contendings of Horus and Seth were male to male
rape takes place. For "barbarous" acts try the scenes on the walls of
temple of Ramses III at Medinet Habu were the choped off hands and
penises of the fallen enemy are heaped in piles at Pharaoh's feet. Yes
the elite of ancient Egypt were interested in building cities and
studying the stars and speculating about life after death. And I am sure
that many of them, along with the most common peasant, enjoyed sex.
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