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Mike

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Apr 26, 2001, 12:43:48 AM4/26/01
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98.7% of the base pairs between humans and chimps are the same. So what is
it that makes us so different from chimps? Quote from article:

The genomes of all mammals are so similar that "it's hard to understand how
they can produce such different animals", says Sue Povey, who works on human
gene mapping at University College London in England. If their genes are
alike, it's probably changes in when, where and how active they are that
drives the differences between species, she agrees.

http://www.nature.com/nsu/010426/010426-8.html


James Michael Howard

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Apr 26, 2001, 9:15:20 AM4/26/01
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While there is room in that 1.3% for purely genetic phenomena, I suggest the
big difference between humans and chimps is testosterone. Human males and
females produce more testosterone than chimpanzee males and females.

James Michael Howar
Fayetteville, Arkansas, U.S.A.

Jim Walsh

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Apr 26, 2001, 9:31:47 AM4/26/01
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That is a silly idea easily tested and refuted. Make some "chimp
testosterone" and inject it in chimps. See if you can make humans that
way. Duh.

Love, Jim

The argument has been made that the slaughter of June 2 and 4 was
necessary to clear Tiananmen Square. Then why did the indiscriminate
killing of innocent people continue for several days after
the martial law troops had already occupied the square.....
These young men and women are only a small number of the victims
of June 4 that I know of. Relatives of some victims, fearful of
official pressure are unwilling to reveal publicly the names and
circumstances of the deaths of their loved ones, and thus they
bear an even greater pain. Professor Ding,
The China Reader, Vintage Books, Pages 209 & 210.

Preston Wade

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Apr 26, 2001, 3:03:14 PM4/26/01
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> That is a silly idea easily tested and refuted. Make some "chimp
> testosterone" and inject it in chimps. See if you can make humans that
> way. Duh.
>

Well, he said the "big difference" and not the "only difference".
Whether you agree with him or not, it seems you misinterpreted
his comment.


Jim Walsh

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Apr 26, 2001, 9:53:02 AM4/26/01
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OK, fair enough. Inject "chimp testosterone" in chimps and see if it
reduces the "big difference" to a little difference.

Love, Jim

Until the color of one's skin
is as important as the color of their eyes,
everywhere there will be war.

Mike

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Apr 27, 2001, 12:31:38 AM4/27/01
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There is no such thing as "chimp testosterone". There is no difference
between chimp and human testosterone. In fact, there is no difference
between the testosterone found in male insects and the testosterone in male
humans.


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Jim Walsh

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Apr 26, 2001, 12:38:59 PM4/26/01
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:31:38 -0500, "Mike" <md_ke...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>There is no such thing as "chimp testosterone". There is no difference
>between chimp and human testosterone. In fact, there is no difference
>between the testosterone found in male insects and the testosterone in male
>humans.

Cool. Take a lot of testosterone, inject it into some chimps, and note
the change. If that reduces the "difference" between chimps and humans
"a lot", your theory is proved. If not, try again.

>
>
>"Jim Walsh" <jimNO...@tranSPAMsend.com.tw> wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 04:03:14 +0900, "Preston Wade"
>> <muf...@kda.attmil.ne.jp> wrote:
>>
>> >> That is a silly idea easily tested and refuted. Make some "chimp
>> >> testosterone" and inject it in chimps. See if you can make humans that
>> >> way. Duh.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Well, he said the "big difference" and not the "only difference".
>> >Whether you agree with him or not, it seems you misinterpreted
>> >his comment.
>>
>> OK, fair enough. Inject "chimp testosterone" in chimps and see if it
>> reduces the "big difference" to a little difference.
>>
>> Love, Jim
>>
>> Until the color of one's skin
>> is as important as the color of their eyes,
>> everywhere there will be war.
>

Love, Jim

"If a state is governed by the principles of reason,
poverty and misery are the subjects of shame.
If a state is not governed by the principles of reason,
riches and honors are the subject of shame."
Confucius, as quoted by Thoreau in Civil Disobedience.

Bill Habr

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May 3, 2001, 10:34:31 AM5/3/01
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>98.7% of the base pairs between humans and chimps are the same. So what is
>it that makes us so different from chimps?

Read "The Difference of Man and the Difference it Makes" by Mortimer Adler
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...remembering on both sides that civility is not a sign of weakness, and
sincerity is always subject to proof. JFK.

Kevin Poulton

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May 3, 2001, 2:06:09 PM5/3/01
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Are we that different from chimps? Or am I missing the point? (Anewbie)

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