Are you a RACIST?
jer453
about. We as human beings exist BECAUSE of Nature's racism. Nature
produces an infinite diversity of biological forms that struggle for
existence with the most fit becoming the victors in that struggle.
Racism is the key to Evolution. The USA owes its very existence to
Nature's racist principles. When Europeans "discovered" the Americas
the natural struggle for existence ensued. Our ancestors slaughtered
the native Indians to the tune "the only good Indian is a DEAD
Indian" and the "Manifest Destiny" mantra. Having been robbed of all
their lands and beaten into total submission they were confined to
concentration camps called "Reservations". The USA broke every treaty
it ever made with the natives. Taken in toto (including Negro
Slavery), it spelled RACISM at the MAX. If you wish to denounce
racism, at least be fair. You must denounce your own country that was
founded on ultra racism, and you, the recipient of stolen property,
are duty bound to return "your" property to the few surviving Native
Americans. Failing that, you should at least stop ranting against
racism and acknowledge that you, yourself, are a bountiful beneficiary
of the rich rewards of racism. There were no gods or God until human
beings created them. Nature created man, and man created gods. It's
a simple as that. For more info, please see: http://www.glorentz.com
Noel Conway
vindication of the rights of racists to their opinions? I'm sorry, I
don't quite get it, are you a racist, who are you referring to, the
majority of racists that exist in the developed world?
Have you got anything more than you barrage of nonsense to actually put
up, or would you prefer rather to shut up before you get beaten into
submission by people who actually employ at least part of the other 90%
of their brains?
Life on earth is a struggle. Nature is not racist. What a load of old
tripe! nature by definition is indifferent, and certainly cannot
comprehend. racism is a human term, to define certain processes of the
civilised world. That racism exists and has existed is not in question.
Who do you assert denies the existence of racism/ Get a life!
But society as it moves forward and adopts new norms and forms can push
through and beyond its past and become as something new and whole and
full. We cannot give back what we have taken. Indeed we cannot truly
take, ever. Only nature does that. We do not own the land. The native
American Indians did not "own" the land. They would laugh at you with
all your education if you implied such a notion.
I don't know too much about your reason for your rant, but I have
deduced something about your intelligence, and for that I thank you.
Comm
"Noel Conway" <noelc...@internode.on.net> wrote in message
news:12sb3qg...@corp.supernews.com...
> jer453 wrote:
>> If you denounce racism, you should at least know what you're talking
>> about. We as human beings exist BECAUSE of Nature's racism. Nature
>> produces an infinite diversity of biological forms that struggle for
>> existence with the most fit becoming the victors in that struggle.
>> Racism is the key to Evolution. The USA owes its very existence to
>> Nature's racist principles. When Europeans "discovered" the Americas
>> the natural struggle for existence ensued. Our ancestors slaughtered
>> the native Indians to the tune "the only good Indian is a DEAD
>> Indian" and the "Manifest Destiny" mantra. Having been robbed of all
>> their lands and beaten into total submission they were confined to
>> concentration camps called "Reservations". The USA broke every treaty
>> it ever made with the natives. Taken in toto (including Negro
>> Slavery), it spelled RACISM at the MAX. If you wish to denounce
>> racism, at least be fair. You must denounce your own country that was
>> founded on ultra racism, and you, the recipient of stolen property,
>> are duty bound to return "your" property to the few surviving Native
>> Americans. Failing that, you should at least stop ranting against
>> racism and acknowledge that you, yourself, are a bountiful beneficiary
>> of the rich rewards of racism. There were no gods or God until human
>> beings created them. Nature created man, and man created gods. It's
>> a simple as that. For more info, please see: http://www.glorentz.com
First of all, I do not denounce a person's right to like or dislike anyone
or any group - so that's out of the way right here. I'm in favor of CHOICE
when it comes to integration AND segregation. FREE CHOICE.
>>
> Was that a discussion topic, or a rant? Is it a thinly veiled vindication
> of the rights of racists to their opinions? I'm sorry, I don't quite get
> it, are you a racist, who are you referring to, the majority of racists
> that exist in the developed world?
Developed world? Get real.
> Life on earth is a struggle. Nature is not racist. What a load of old
> tripe! nature by definition is indifferent, and certainly cannot
> comprehend. racism is a human term, to define certain processes of the
> civilised world. That racism exists and has existed is not in question.
> Who do you assert denies the existence of racism/ Get a life!
It has nothing to do with the civilized world. How on earth do you imagine
that the "races" were easy to tell apart based on eyesight during the time
that no one was civilized?
>
> But society as it moves forward and adopts new norms
Right now, the only new norms being adopted are abnormal and maladaptive
strategies done by European humans. They are allowing NONEuropeans into
their age old lands in the name of the CULT of diversity - and that will be
their undoing if they continue this. They either preserve their language,
culture, religion and SELVES - or they will perish. And yeah, if they try
to do that, everyone will call them racist for trying. But when the Chinese
do it - no one says a word because the Chinese would SPIT on them if anyone
boo hooed over it.
TheRhine...@aol.com
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In this day and age anything that anyone says about race can be taken
with a grain of salt. I don't think there is a person alive who
doesn't know what he is suppose to say and most do.
Noel Conway
it is not an evolutionary term. You might say nature is "speciest," but
it is certainly not racist, only humans differentiate on the basis of
race. As for whether racism is good or bad, I guess a racist will not
be convinced about his or her behaviour, so there is no point in
debating it here. But racists, believe me, know who they are, and have
very little in mind that has to do with the survival of the fittest.
Comm
>I have to reiterate, Nature is not "racist." Racism is a modern term, it
>is not an evolutionary term.
Agree. What I posted was not exactly addressing your point, but I felt like
saying it :-D.
You might say nature is "speciest," but
> it is certainly not racist, only humans differentiate on the basis of
> race.
Not exactly true. Check out on how species get to BE species (not breeding
with each other) in the first place. Nature is not speciest. Speciation
happens when two groups that were originally ONE group separate, stay
separated, geographically isolated - and change enough so that they become
two separate species. Racism is a tired, imo, meaningless word - as I said
when I said people have a right to like or dislike.
The whole of China got to have people in it that pretty much "look Chinese"
due to sexual selection in favor of THOSE distinguishing features.
Obviously, they did not sexually select in favor of kinky hair or round
eyes - or blue eyes or whatever else is "not Chinese looking." Due to that
preference in choice of mates who had "this look" but not "that other
look" - we end up with a whole huge country, China, where the people "look
Chinese." LOL. That's basically how that happens, even if it sounds funny.
Today, would a Chinese person that said: "I prefer to date only Chinese
women, I don't like white or black women" be called a racist? Oh, yes, he
would. I say - FUCK THAT! uh, eerr... heh. Sexual attraction is the
driving force of what made what we today see as "differences in races."
That's the MAIN thing that did it. If people want children that look more
like themselves, that's their right - and it's a very personal right.
Whoever calls them "racist" for that kind of thing is truly an "enemy of the
people and enemy of freedom" of the worst kind.
As for whether racism is good or bad, I guess a racist will not
> be convinced about his or her behaviour, so there is no point in debating
> it here.
It would depend on what you mean by racism. Do you mean the Chinese guy
that doesn't want to date blacks or whites but only wants other Chinese
women? Do you mean that? That's neither good nor bad. It simply IS. Do
you mean not hiring a qualified person BECAUSE of his ethnic group? How
about hiring an UNqualified person because of his ethnic group? Same thing!
What do you mean? You see, the word "racism" has become meaningless.
But racists, believe me, know who they are, and have
> very little in mind that has to do with the survival of the fittest.
The fittest? What do you mean the fittest? Those who have the strongest
immunity? The fittest is NOT defined in the now. The fittest is defined
100 years from now - by WHO IS HERE. Primates were fitter than dinosaurs -
we SURVIVED that asteroid.
I'm sick of hearing the worst racist thrown at exclusively white Christian
people whenever they mutter a word about their OWN self interests.
Meanwhile, everyone and anyone that has a penchant for trashing everything
white/christian gets away with it.
I'm not European. I'm not Christian. But I happen to LIKE what these people
made: western civilization is what THEY MADE. I like it. These people
should rise up, no matter what it takes, and DEFEND their works - before all
of it is gone. If they need to get racist in the traditional meaning to do
this, then they better just do it. I think that would be a tragedy because
the kind of racism they might get would be really STUPID.
clearmind
ken wilber talked about this issue in sex,ecology and spirituality
Chip Flintknapper
It was a cut and paste directly from the glorentz website. The author is
a devout atheist, and philosopher, but much can be taken out of context,
as you should well know.
Any good politician knows that he needs to get the common man reciting
that which he does not necessarily know, but sounds good anyway.
That is, a goal, whether artificial or not, is a reason to continue in
an otherwise meaningless existence.