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Throwing came first and created bipedalism: HACSN1 genetic evidence #157 Rockthrowing, central theory of anthropology

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Archimedes Plutonium

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Nov 15, 2009, 3:17:37 PM11/15/09
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I always like to save the best for last. I learned this trick from
having faced alot of opponents in arguments and debates. That you save
your best for last because
you give the opposition a good length of time to show how silly and
wrong they are, before you pommel them
with Rockthrowing theory.

Genetics is about the best proof in biology. Something
that the anthropology community has yet to come to full realization.
They are still stuck with the belief that
fossils are their highest proofs. When in fact, as Neanderthal has
shown us, they are different species
and thus have shown that genetics can be a higher
proof.

In the case of Rockthrowing or Stonethrowing theory,
whether underarm, both hands pommelling, or overarm
throwing. The theory of Rockthrowing says that the difference between
humans and apes is throwing and that throwing created bipedalism.

Now we are beginning to show or highlight the incoming
Genetic evidence and it becomes a higher proof schemata than the
fossil record since the fossil record
is too often sketchy and missing the most important
bones to correlate. Also, the fossil record leads to too
much of a illogical debate such as those that silly and
stupidly believe that bipedalism came first.

--- quoting from this website ---

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/05/like-your-opposable-thumb-thank-your-junk-dna/


The human version of the genetic sequence that they isolated, known as
HACSN1, was then injected into single-celled mouse embryos. Eleven-and-
a-half days into the experiment, they found that the gene was active
throughout the embryos’ developing forelimbs, in areas analogous to
the thumb and first couple of fingers of humans. When the team
injected embryos with comparable sequences from chimps and macaques,
the gene activity was confined to the base of the limb. That suggests
that HACSN1 could be a “molecular component of humanness,” says [lead
researcher James] Noonan [ScienceNOW Daily News].

--- end quoting ---

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Archimedes Plutonium

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Nov 15, 2009, 3:58:28 PM11/15/09
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Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> I always like to save the best for last. I learned this trick from
> having faced alot of opponents in arguments and debates. That you save
> your best for last because
> you give the opposition a good length of time to show how silly and
> wrong they are, before you pommel them
> with Rockthrowing theory.
>

Well, in the case of debating any science theory, allow the dumbo side
to
fully show their silly and contorted beliefs, before you throw into
the debate
your strongest evidence. In other words, when in engaging in a debate
of
science, you save your strongest and best evidence near the end of the
debate. In debating circles, I suppose they know all about this trick.


> Genetics is about the best proof in biology. Something
> that the anthropology community has yet to come to full realization.
> They are still stuck with the belief that
> fossils are their highest proofs. When in fact, as Neanderthal has
> shown us, they are different species
> and thus have shown that genetics can be a higher
> proof.
>

Throughout the NOVA show, genetic evidence was entered such as the
timeline for when apes split off in the evolution of hominids approx 6
million
years ago. Then the genetic evidence of gorilla lice. And I am sure
they
are going to present the genetic evidence that Neanderthal was a
separate
species.

So more and more, the anthropology community is awakening to the fact
that
genetics is going to tell the story of anthropology and where the
fossil hominids
is a secondary proof, not a primary proof. The fossil hominids serves
as the
general outline of the proof, but the genetics is the determining
proof.

And the genetics, some future date, will prove that throwing was
formed first
and much later created the bipedalism.


> In the case of Rockthrowing or Stonethrowing theory,
> whether underarm, both hands pommelling, or overarm
> throwing. The theory of Rockthrowing says that the difference between
> humans and apes is throwing and that throwing created bipedalism.
>
> Now we are beginning to show or highlight the incoming
> Genetic evidence and it becomes a higher proof schemata than the
> fossil record since the fossil record
> is too often sketchy and missing the most important
> bones to correlate. Also, the fossil record leads to too
> much of a illogical debate such as those that silly and
> stupidly believe that bipedalism came first.
>

Well, my complaint here about fossil debating versus genetics, is that
in fossils
about everyone with their own separate opinion can argue their opinion
as a theory.

But with Genetics, genetics is a much more of a "yes or no" answer and
eliminates
most interpretations. The fossils allow for a huge spectrum of
interpretations, but
the genetic evidence throws out most interpretations and narrows the
field of
answers.

So if not for genetics to come into anthropology, all sorts of
rumdummy interpretations
can be given to found fossil hominids and the science can never come
to a adequate
understanding of human evolution. But since Genetics has a huge role,
the science of
anthropology will come to a end-truth of what happened.

> --- quoting from this website ---
>
> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/05/like-your-opposable-thumb-thank-your-junk-dna/
>
>
> The human version of the genetic sequence that they isolated, known as
> HACSN1, was then injected into single-celled mouse embryos. Eleven-and-
> a-half days into the experiment, they found that the gene was active
> throughout the embryos’ developing forelimbs, in areas analogous to
> the thumb and first couple of fingers of humans. When the team
> injected embryos with comparable sequences from chimps and macaques,
> the gene activity was confined to the base of the limb. That suggests
> that HACSN1 could be a “molecular component of humanness,” says [lead
> researcher James] Noonan [ScienceNOW Daily News].
>
> --- end quoting ---
>

So now we need Genetics to find the genes making the elbow into a
throwers
elbow, and no longer a apes elbow in order to live and climb trees
easily.

Lee Olsen

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Nov 15, 2009, 6:46:15 PM11/15/09
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On Nov 15, 12:58 pm, Archimedes Plutonium

<plutonium.archime...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> > I always like to save the best for last.

Best? You haven't posted anything rational yet.

FYI:

W.-J. Wang and R. H. Crompton 2004
The role of load-carrying in the evolution of modern body
proportions

J. Anat. 204 pp417–430

"Our hypothesis that there is a direct relationship between
the acquisition of modern postcranial proportions and increased
ranging/transport distances at around 1.8–1.5 Ma appears
to be borne out, although other selective factors, such
as thermoregulatory influences (see Ruff, 1991; Wheeler,
1992) and adaptations for throwing (see Dunsworth
et al. 2003), are likely to have played an important
(although probably interdependent) role."

Evidence for load carrying? Manuports and tool
rock. None found before 2.5 mya.

Gibbons walk and run upright as well as any of other of the great
apes,
besides us. This demonstrates walking and running, to a somewhat
lessor
degree than hominids, came before rock throwing, since they show no
special
interest in it. Chimps can and do throw accuratley for short a
distance without
the major differences found between us and them, like high-arched feet
and
the gluteus maximus found in parallel along with our great throwing
skills. If
rock throwing was the driving force of our evolution, there is no
reason to think
it wouldn't have been so other apes also, since the beginning of
bipedalism
(upright posture) is found in all the great apes and presumably in the
LCA to
all of us. Yet we were the only ones driven from the trees by climate
change.
The lact of good throwing hands and fingers found in "Orrorin
through
Australopithecus" demonstrates a penchant for climbing, not throwing.
The lack of manuports collaborates this observation as none have been
found
with these early hominids.

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