Re: Lucy FACTOID 101

[Tom McDonald]

On 4/30/2012 10:10 PM, Jason wrote:
> In article<XnsA045DE2D6CAF1...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> Holman<nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
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>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>> news:Jason-30041...@66-53-214-232.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
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>>> In article<g8Enr.14843$VF7...@newsfe02.iad>, Tom McDonald
>>> <tmcdon...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/30/2012 5:07 PM, Jason wrote:
>>>>> In article<XnsA045AB7085365...@216.196.121.131>,
>>>>> Mitchell Holman<nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>>>>>> news:Jason-30041...@66-53-217-203.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>> <dfritzin-7421DB...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>>>>>> David Fritzinger<dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just saw a report on television about some research that has
>>>>>>> been done related to wind farms. They not only have killed lots
>>>>>>> of birds but they also are making global warming worse. The
>>>>>>> reason is because of what is known as the "wind island effect".
>>>>>>> The end result of the wind island effect is that it makes the
>>>>>>> earth warmer in the areas that have huge wind farms. If thousands
>>>>>>> more wind farms are built--it could contribute to the global
>>>>>>> warming problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How much heat do you suppose oil refineries generate?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's now obvious that I am not the only person that changes
>>>>> subjects.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know--but it's probably quite a lot.
>>>>>
>>>> Ted Nugent shit his pants rather than go to Viet Nam. Other
>>>> Republican chickenhawks found other ways to avoid going to war. And
>>>> now they are all gung-ho for wars. As long as they don't have to
>>>> fight them.
>>>>
>>>> Watch this for some details:
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>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgUIx3zUesY
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>>> I am a conservative and don't want America to fight anymore political
>>> correct wars. It's impossible to win a war when we don't allow our
>>> soldiers to fire bomb a city that is filled with Muslim terrorists.
>>> Instead, we send our soldiers into that city--going door to door--and
>>> making sure they DO NOT shoot any women or children. The end result is
>>> hundreds of dead American soldiers.
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>> So to sum up:
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>> You both oppose the killing of "innocent
>> life" (abortion) but you SUPPORT the killing
>> of innocent life (women and children).
>>
>> There is no limit to your hypocrisy.
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> It's more complicated that that. I don't want American soldiers killed.
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> It does happen when they are ordered to go door to door is a city. It
> rarely happens when cities filled with terrorists are fire bombed.
>
You are a horrendous person.

[Alex W.]

He's a Christian in the traditional mould. Read any history of
Christianity, and you will find that Jason stands fullsquare at
the end of 2,000 years of like-minded butchers.

[Mitchell Holman]

"Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:ua5c3mqw1ex.ze...@40tude.net:

Nothing says "pro-life" like carpet bombing
a city full of civilians.

In the name of Jesus, of course..........




"You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination,
but if Venezuelan president Chevez he thinks we're trying to
assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and
do it"
Christian minister Pat Robertson, Aug 21 2005

[Tom McDonald]

I don't agree. After all, it was the Church that came up with the Just
War doctrine, and set limits to what was acceptable in war-time. (Though
other religions did similar things, especially classical Islam.)

That said, yes, the history of Christianity is full of instances of
bloody-mindedness and savagery that would put Caligula to shame. I just
think that there is a countervailing stream in church history that gives
me hope that rational Christians (of which Jason is not one, of course)
will work to find ways to moderate the extremes of the rest of their
coreligionists.

[Jason]

In article <IgQnr.27859$Ec.2...@newsfe16.iad>, Tom McDonald

You don't appear to me to understand the nature of warfare.

[Mitchell Holman]

Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-01051...@66-53-220-7.stkn.mdsg-pacwest.com:

What would you know about "the nature of warfare"?

[Alex W.]

Notions of a "just war" were well-known to the Romans (read
Cicero in De Officiis and De Re Publica).

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> That said, yes, the history of Christianity is full of instances of
> bloody-mindedness and savagery that would put Caligula to shame. I just
> think that there is a countervailing stream in church history that gives
> me hope that rational Christians (of which Jason is not one, of course)
> will work to find ways to moderate the extremes of the rest of their
> coreligionists.

Do note the interesting correlation here between the growth of
pacifist church teaching and the loss of the church's secular
powers. Only when the churches lost their ability to wage war
themselves, did they start to push the pacifist angle.

[Tom McDonald]

Well, he did play a chickenhawk on the Internet.

[tirebiter]

On May 1, 6:01 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <IgQnr.27859$Ec.21...@newsfe16.iad>, Tom McDonald

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> <tmcdonald2...@charter.net> wrote:
> > On 4/30/2012 10:10 PM, Jason wrote:

> > > In article<XnsA045DE2D6CAF1nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell

> > > Holman<nomailcomcast.net>  wrote:
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> > >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >>news:Jason-30041...@66-53-214-232.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
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> > >>> In article<g8Enr.14843$VF7....@newsfe02.iad>, Tom McDonald
> > >>> <tmcdonald2...@charter.net>  wrote:

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> > >>>> On 4/30/2012 5:07 PM, Jason wrote:

> > >>>>> In article<XnsA045AB7085365nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,

> > >>>>> Mitchell Holman<nomailcomcast.net>   wrote:
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> > >>>>>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >>>>>>news:Jason-30041...@66-53-217-203.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
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> > >>>>>>> In article

> > >>>>>>> <dfritzin-7421DB.13524930042...@news.eternal-september.org>,

You are the one who has proven yourself to not know the so-called
"nature of warfare".

Did you ever produce the list of German cities the U.S. destroyed in
World War One? You know that after the bombing, soldiers went in and
killed everybody they saw? You do remember making that claim, don't
you?

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a.a. #2273

[Mitchell Holman]

Tom McDonald <tmcdon...@charter.net> wrote in news:E3%nr.17962
$DB1....@newsfe03.iad:

"did"?

He has been playing the Chickenhawk his
whole life, it seems.

[Mitchell Holman]

tirebiter <dontsp...@bigfoot.com> wrote in
news:d962fc4c-5ef2-499b...@u14g2000vbm.googlegroups.com:

To be exact:


"During WW I, it was common for our military leaders
to send planes over cities in Germany to bomb them.
After most everyone in that city was killed by the
bombs, our soldiers would go into the city and shoot
everyone they saw."
Jason, kneeslapper claim, 11/11/11.

[Jason]

In article <XnsA046B68831148...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell

What I learned in college history classes.