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Claudius Denk
Jul 11, 2012, 11:57:40 AM7/11/12
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On May 10, 8:27 am, Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Lee Olsen presented:
It may come as a surprise to hear that humans excel in running.
Obviously, a leopard can leave us in the dust in a short sprint. But
over longer distances leopards and most other mammals flag. "Most
mammals can't sustain a gallop over 10 to 15 minutes," says
Lieberman.
Claudius Denk:
It is plainly observable that most races in the wild end abruptly in
less than 30 seconds when either the predator has caught their prey
or
the prey has escaped and the predator has given up.
Lee Olsen (continued):
Humans, on the other hand, can continue running for hours while using
relatively little energy. "Humans are phenomenal endurance runners,
in terms of speed, cost, and distance," says Lieberman. You can
actually outrun a pony easily." And yet, he points out, "no other
primates out there endurance run."
Claudius Denk:
Humans have endurant qualities. (Specifically, hominids have "slow
twitch" muscles, which are less strong but more endurant.) These
endurant qualities are associated with all aspects of our existence--
not just running/walking. Endurant qualities are more associated
with
consciousness in general than they are with any particular activity.
Consciousness (awareness) and endurantism have everything to do with
communal territorialism. They have to do with maintaining a presence
on a territorial claim (garden habitat) to serve as a threat to
dissuade inmigrating food competitor species and so that the call can
go out to a larger community to take action to prevent inmigration of
food competitor species, especially during the dry season. Might
this
have involved 'troops" being mobilized over relatively long
distances? Sure. And might this activity in and of itself have
benefited from endurant running? Sure. But does this have anything
whatsoever to do with hominids evading predators and/or going on
excursions into treeless habitat to compete with dedicated predators?
Absolutely not, because if that was the case we would expect them to
maintain their "fast twitch" musculature so that they could stay
competitive.
Jim McGinn (AKA Claudius Denk)
http://www.solvingtornadoes.org
Lee Olsen presented:
It may come as a surprise to hear that humans excel in running.
Obviously, a leopard can leave us in the dust in a short sprint. But
over longer distances leopards and most other mammals flag. "Most
mammals can't sustain a gallop over 10 to 15 minutes," says
Lieberman.
Claudius Denk:
It is plainly observable that most races in the wild end abruptly in
less than 30 seconds when either the predator has caught their prey
or
the prey has escaped and the predator has given up.
Lee Olsen (continued):
Humans, on the other hand, can continue running for hours while using
relatively little energy. "Humans are phenomenal endurance runners,
in terms of speed, cost, and distance," says Lieberman. You can
actually outrun a pony easily." And yet, he points out, "no other
primates out there endurance run."
Claudius Denk:
Humans have endurant qualities. (Specifically, hominids have "slow
twitch" muscles, which are less strong but more endurant.) These
endurant qualities are associated with all aspects of our existence--
not just running/walking. Endurant qualities are more associated
with
consciousness in general than they are with any particular activity.
Consciousness (awareness) and endurantism have everything to do with
communal territorialism. They have to do with maintaining a presence
on a territorial claim (garden habitat) to serve as a threat to
dissuade inmigrating food competitor species and so that the call can
go out to a larger community to take action to prevent inmigration of
food competitor species, especially during the dry season. Might
this
have involved 'troops" being mobilized over relatively long
distances? Sure. And might this activity in and of itself have
benefited from endurant running? Sure. But does this have anything
whatsoever to do with hominids evading predators and/or going on
excursions into treeless habitat to compete with dedicated predators?
Absolutely not, because if that was the case we would expect them to
maintain their "fast twitch" musculature so that they could stay
competitive.
Jim McGinn (AKA Claudius Denk)
http://www.solvingtornadoes.org
Tom McDonald
Jul 11, 2012, 1:33:45 PM7/11/12
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endurantism
Or:
http://tinyurl.com/6x62dm
Endurantism does have a lot to do with human awareness; but what you
write below has zero to do with endurantism.
Is there no beginning to your actual knowledge?
Claudius Denk
Jul 11, 2012, 2:33:49 PM7/11/12
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semantic?
Tom McDonald
Jul 11, 2012, 4:52:06 PM7/11/12
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arrogance?
So far this week you have claimed expertise in genealogy (when that is
irrelevant to the issues involved, and probably isn't what you meant);
and, as above, claimed that endurantism has something to do with
endurance running.
IOW you have a queer knack for showing flat ignorance about simple
things, while asking us to accept that you are some sort of polymath in
those same things.
When you show such ignorance and sloppiness about such simple things, it
begins to look to honest eyes like you aren't really up to taking part
in discussions with the grownups.
But hell, keep it up. It's a hoot to read, and makes it worth getting up
in the morning to see what new howlers you'll present to us in the new day.
Perhaps you could explain what fast-twitch muscle fibers have to do with
'endurantism'? Or endurance activities?
This should be fun!
Claudius Denk
Jul 12, 2012, 2:35:39 AM7/12/12
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Speaking of serious, tornadoes really are no joke. Hundreds of people
are killed every year. Husbands, wives, little boys and girls. At
best they have ten minutes warning, and then . . . And for every
person killed theres 10 to 20 more that are injured.
We really do need your help, Tom. (If making phone calls isn't your
thing we can work out something else.)
You saw the website. People live their whole lives in the hope of
being part of something like this.
Honestly though, Tom. I think you're going to find this rewarding on
many different levels. Just think, you'll be able to tell your
grandkids that in your spare time you save lives. And you'll be able
to tell them that with a straight face.
http://www.solvingtornadoes.org
Jim McGinn (AKA Claudius Denk)
J.LyonLayden
Jul 12, 2012, 1:59:52 PM7/12/12
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On Thursday, July 12, 2012 2:35:39 AM UTC-4, Claudius Denk wrote:
> On Jul 11, 1:52 pm, Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2...@charter.net> wrote:
> > On 7/11/2012 1:33 PM, Claudius Denk wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jul 11, 10:33 am, Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2...@charter.net> wrote:
> > >> On 7/11/2012 10:57 AM, Claudius Denk wrote:
> >
> > >>> On May 10, 8:27 am, Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>> Lee Olsen presented:
> > >>> It may come as a surprise to hear that humans excel in running.
> > >>> Obviously, a leopard can leave us in the dust in a short sprint. But
> > >>> over longer distances leopards and most other mammals flag. "Most
> > >>> mammals can't sustain a gallop over 10 to 15 minutes," says
> > >>> Lieberman.
> >
> > >>> Claudius Denk:
> > >>> It is plainly observable that most races in the wild end abruptly in
> > >>> less than 30 seconds when either the predator has caught their prey
> > >>> or
> > >>> the prey has escaped and the predator has given up.
> >
> > >>> Lee Olsen (continued):
> > >>> Humans, on the other hand, can continue running for hours while using
> > >>> relatively little energy. "Humans are phenomenal endurance runners,
> > >>> in terms of speed, cost, and distance," says Lieberman. You can
> > >>> actually outrun a pony easily." And yet, he points out, "no other
> > >>> primates out there endurance run."
> >
> > >>> Claudius Denk:
> > >>> Humans have endurant qualities. (Specifically, hominids have "slow
> > >>> twitch" muscles, which are less strong but more endurant.) These
> > >>> endurant qualities are associated with all aspects of our existence--
> > >>> not just running/walking. Endurant qualities are more associated
> > >>> with
> > >>> consciousness in general than they are with any particular activity.
> > >>> Consciousness (awareness) and endurantism have everything to do with
> > >>> communal territorialism.
> >
> > >> Endurantism is another word you use without understanding.
> >
> > >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endurantism
> >
> > >> Or:
> >
> > >>http://tinyurl.com/6x62dm
> >
> > >> Endurantism does have a lot to do with human awareness; but what you
> > >> write below has zero to do with endurantism.
> >
> > >> Is there no beginning to your actual knowledge?
> >
> > >>> They have to do with maintaining a presence
> > >>> on a territorial claim (garden habitat) to serve as a threat to
> > >>> dissuade inmigrating food competitor species and so that the call can
> > >>> go out to a larger community to take action to prevent inmigration of
> > >>> food competitor species, especially during the dry season. Might
> > >>> this
> > >>> have involved 'troops" being mobilized over relatively long
> > >>> distances? Sure. And might this activity in and of itself have
> > >>> benefited from endurant running? Sure. But does this have anything
> > >>> whatsoever to do with hominids evading predators and/or going on
> > >>> excursions into treeless habitat to compete with dedicated predators?
> > >>> Absolutely not, because if that was the case we would expect them to
> > >>> maintain their "fast twitch" musculature so that they could stay
> > >>> competitive.
> >
> > >>> Jim McGinn (AKA Claudius Denk)
> > >>>http://www.solvingtornadoes.org
> >
> > > Do you have any dispute with my scenario that isn't just, uh . . .
> > > semantic?
> >
> > Do you have any scenario that is not based on sheer ignorance and
> > arrogance?
> >
> > So far this week you have claimed expertise in genealogy (when that is
> > irrelevant to the issues involved, and probably isn't what you meant);
> > and, as above, claimed that endurantism has something to do with
> > endurance running.
> >
> > IOW you have a queer knack for showing flat ignorance about simple
> > things, while asking us to accept that you are some sort of polymath in
> > those same things.
> >
> > When you show such ignorance and sloppiness about such simple things, it
> > begins to look to honest eyes like you aren't really up to taking part
> > in discussions with the grownups.
> >
> > But hell, keep it up. It's a hoot to read, and makes it worth getting up
> > in the morning to see what new howlers you'll present to us in the new day.
> >
> > Perhaps you could explain what fast-twitch muscle fibers have to do with
> > 'endurantism'? Or endurance activities?
> >
> > This should be fun!
>
> Jeez, Tom. You're so serious.
> many different levels. Just think, you'll be able to tell your
> grandkids that in your spare time you save lives. And you'll be able
> On Jul 11, 1:52 pm, Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2...@charter.net> wrote:
> > On 7/11/2012 1:33 PM, Claudius Denk wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jul 11, 10:33 am, Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2...@charter.net> wrote:
> > >> On 7/11/2012 10:57 AM, Claudius Denk wrote:
> >
> > >>> On May 10, 8:27 am, Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>> Lee Olsen presented:
> > >>> It may come as a surprise to hear that humans excel in running.
> > >>> Obviously, a leopard can leave us in the dust in a short sprint. But
> > >>> over longer distances leopards and most other mammals flag. "Most
> > >>> mammals can't sustain a gallop over 10 to 15 minutes," says
> > >>> Lieberman.
> >
> > >>> Claudius Denk:
> > >>> It is plainly observable that most races in the wild end abruptly in
> > >>> less than 30 seconds when either the predator has caught their prey
> > >>> or
> > >>> the prey has escaped and the predator has given up.
> >
> > >>> Lee Olsen (continued):
> > >>> Humans, on the other hand, can continue running for hours while using
> > >>> relatively little energy. "Humans are phenomenal endurance runners,
> > >>> in terms of speed, cost, and distance," says Lieberman. You can
> > >>> actually outrun a pony easily." And yet, he points out, "no other
> > >>> primates out there endurance run."
> >
> > >>> Claudius Denk:
> > >>> Humans have endurant qualities. (Specifically, hominids have "slow
> > >>> twitch" muscles, which are less strong but more endurant.) These
> > >>> endurant qualities are associated with all aspects of our existence--
> > >>> not just running/walking. Endurant qualities are more associated
> > >>> with
> > >>> consciousness in general than they are with any particular activity.
> > >>> Consciousness (awareness) and endurantism have everything to do with
> > >>> communal territorialism.
> >
> > >> Endurantism is another word you use without understanding.
> >
> > >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endurantism
> >
> > >> Or:
> >
> > >>http://tinyurl.com/6x62dm
> >
> > >> Endurantism does have a lot to do with human awareness; but what you
> > >> write below has zero to do with endurantism.
> >
> > >> Is there no beginning to your actual knowledge?
> >
> > >>> They have to do with maintaining a presence
> > >>> on a territorial claim (garden habitat) to serve as a threat to
> > >>> dissuade inmigrating food competitor species and so that the call can
> > >>> go out to a larger community to take action to prevent inmigration of
> > >>> food competitor species, especially during the dry season. Might
> > >>> this
> > >>> have involved 'troops" being mobilized over relatively long
> > >>> distances? Sure. And might this activity in and of itself have
> > >>> benefited from endurant running? Sure. But does this have anything
> > >>> whatsoever to do with hominids evading predators and/or going on
> > >>> excursions into treeless habitat to compete with dedicated predators?
> > >>> Absolutely not, because if that was the case we would expect them to
> > >>> maintain their "fast twitch" musculature so that they could stay
> > >>> competitive.
> >
> > >>> Jim McGinn (AKA Claudius Denk)
> > >>>http://www.solvingtornadoes.org
> >
> > > Do you have any dispute with my scenario that isn't just, uh . . .
> > > semantic?
> >
> > Do you have any scenario that is not based on sheer ignorance and
> > arrogance?
> >
> > So far this week you have claimed expertise in genealogy (when that is
> > irrelevant to the issues involved, and probably isn't what you meant);
> > and, as above, claimed that endurantism has something to do with
> > endurance running.
> >
> > IOW you have a queer knack for showing flat ignorance about simple
> > things, while asking us to accept that you are some sort of polymath in
> > those same things.
> >
> > When you show such ignorance and sloppiness about such simple things, it
> > begins to look to honest eyes like you aren't really up to taking part
> > in discussions with the grownups.
> >
> > But hell, keep it up. It's a hoot to read, and makes it worth getting up
> > in the morning to see what new howlers you'll present to us in the new day.
> >
> > Perhaps you could explain what fast-twitch muscle fibers have to do with
> > 'endurantism'? Or endurance activities?
> >
> > This should be fun!
>
> Jeez, Tom. You're so serious.
>
> Speaking of serious, tornadoes really are no joke. Hundreds of people
> are killed every year. Husbands, wives, little boys and girls. At
> best they have ten minutes warning, and then . . . And for every
> person killed theres 10 to 20 more that are injured.
>
> We really do need your help, Tom. (If making phone calls isn't your
> Speaking of serious, tornadoes really are no joke. Hundreds of people
> are killed every year. Husbands, wives, little boys and girls. At
> best they have ten minutes warning, and then . . . And for every
> person killed theres 10 to 20 more that are injured.
>
> thing we can work out something else.)
>
> You saw the website. People live their whole lives in the hope of
> being part of something like this.
>
> Honestly though, Tom. I think you're going to find this rewarding on
>
> You saw the website. People live their whole lives in the hope of
> being part of something like this.
>
> many different levels. Just think, you'll be able to tell your
> grandkids that in your spare time you save lives. And you'll be able
> to tell them that with a straight face.
>
> http://www.solvingtornadoes.org
>
> Jim McGinn (AKA Claudius Denk)
> Ya gotta be twisted to deal with twisters
Wow. Just wow.
>
> http://www.solvingtornadoes.org
>
> Jim McGinn (AKA Claudius Denk)
> Ya gotta be twisted to deal with twisters
RichTravsky
Jul 12, 2012, 11:24:05 PM7/12/12
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RichTravsky
Jul 12, 2012, 11:25:45 PM7/12/12
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> Speaking of serious, tornadoes really are no joke. Hundreds of people
> are killed every year. Husbands, wives, little boys and girls. At
> best they have ten minutes warning, and then . . . And for every
> person killed theres 10 to 20 more that are injured.
>
> We really do need your help, Tom. (If making phone calls isn't your
> thing we can work out something else.)
>
> You saw the website. People live their whole lives in the hope of
> being part of something like this.
>
> Honestly though, Tom. I think you're going to find this rewarding on
> many different levels. Just think, you'll be able to tell your
> grandkids that in your spare time you save lives. And you'll be able
> to tell them that with a straight face.
>
> http://www.solvingtornadoes.org
>
> Jim McGinn (AKA Claudius Denk)
> Ya gotta be twisted to deal with twisters!
meterology must be worse.
Claudius Denk
Jul 13, 2012, 12:41:13 AM7/13/12
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RichTravsky
Jul 17, 2012, 10:47:38 PM7/17/12
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Nuff said.
PS - your expertise in meterology would get people killed.
Claudius Denk
Jul 18, 2012, 1:26:19 AM7/18/12
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RichTravsky
Jul 23, 2012, 10:42:19 PM7/23/12
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Claudius Denk
Jul 24, 2012, 5:27:46 AM7/24/12
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get their feeling hurt.
RichTravsky
Jul 30, 2012, 1:17:05 AM7/30/12
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Claudius Denk
Jul 30, 2012, 1:33:05 AM7/30/12
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hypothesis.
RichTravsky
Aug 6, 2012, 12:51:42 AM8/6/12
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Claudius Denk
Aug 6, 2012, 2:32:10 AM8/6/12
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RichTravsky
Aug 12, 2012, 10:59:54 PM8/12/12
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critiquing someone else's...
Claudius Denk
Aug 13, 2012, 12:06:01 AM8/13/12
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hypothesis of any kind whatsoever. If I didn't ask you would go on
pretending otherwise, wouldn't you?
You science groupies are so obvious.
pete
Aug 13, 2012, 10:28:51 PM8/13/12
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Tom McDonald wrote:
>
> On 7/11/2012 10:57 AM, Claudius Denk wrote:
> > Claudius Denk:
> > Humans have endurant qualities. (Specifically, hominids have "slow
> > twitch" muscles, which are less strong but more endurant.) These
> > endurant qualities are associated
> > with all aspects of our existence--
> > not just running/walking. Endurant qualities are more associated
> > with
> > consciousness in general than they are with any particular activity.
> > Consciousness (awareness) and endurantism have everything to do with
> > communal territorialism.
>
> Endurantism is another word you use without understanding.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endurantism
>
> On 7/11/2012 10:57 AM, Claudius Denk wrote:
> > Claudius Denk:
> > Humans have endurant qualities. (Specifically, hominids have "slow
> > twitch" muscles, which are less strong but more endurant.) These
> > endurant qualities are associated
> > with all aspects of our existence--
> > not just running/walking. Endurant qualities are more associated
> > with
> > consciousness in general than they are with any particular activity.
> > Consciousness (awareness) and endurantism have everything to do with
> > communal territorialism.
>
> Endurantism is another word you use without understanding.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endurantism
> Is there no beginning to your actual knowledge?
> > Jim McGinn (AKA Claudius Denk)
"Jimmydurantism":
http://stayclassic.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/jimmy_durante.jpg
--
pete
Claudius Denk
Aug 13, 2012, 10:40:00 PM8/13/12
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RichTravsky
Aug 16, 2012, 11:14:32 PM8/16/12
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of any kind whatsoever.
You science groupies are so obvious. You still haven't learned what Endurantism
is
RichTravsky
Aug 16, 2012, 11:15:06 PM8/16/12
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Claudius Denk
Aug 16, 2012, 11:40:48 PM8/16/12
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you're trying to represent yourself as being more of an expert than
you actually are. Because the only argument you have is an argument
from authority. And a weak one at that.
Claudius Denk
Aug 16, 2012, 11:42:03 PM8/16/12
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Claudius Denk
Aug 17, 2012, 10:57:26 AM8/17/12
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think the fact that you yourself have failed at putting together a
hypothesis on this subject is significant for others to judge the
validity of your assertions.
RichTravsky
Aug 19, 2012, 10:59:41 PM8/19/12
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RichTravsky
Aug 19, 2012, 11:00:25 PM8/19/12
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Claudius Denk wrote:
>
> On Aug 16, 8:15 pm, RichTravsky <traRvEskyM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Claudius Denk wrote:
> >
> > > On Aug 13, 7:28 pm, pete <pfil...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > > > Tom McDonald wrote:
> >
> > > > > On 7/11/2012 10:57 AM, Claudius Denk wrote:
> > > > > > Claudius Denk:
> > > > > > Humans have endurant qualities. (Specifically, hominids have "slow
> > > > > > twitch" muscles, which are less strong but more endurant.) These
> > > > > > endurant qualities are associated
> > > > > > with all aspects of our existence--
> > > > > > not just running/walking. Endurant qualities are more associated
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > consciousness in general than they are with any particular activity.
> > > > > > Consciousness (awareness) and endurantism have everything to do with
> > > > > > communal territorialism.
> >
> > > > > Endurantism is another word you use without understanding.
> >
> > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endurantism
> > > > > Is there no beginning to your actual knowledge?
> > > > > > Jim McGinn (AKA Claudius Denk)
> >
> > > > "Jimmydurantism":
> >
> > > >http://stayclassic.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/jimmy_durante.jpg
> >
>
> On Aug 16, 8:15 pm, RichTravsky <traRvEskyM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Claudius Denk wrote:
> >
> > > On Aug 13, 7:28 pm, pete <pfil...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > > > Tom McDonald wrote:
> >
> > > > > On 7/11/2012 10:57 AM, Claudius Denk wrote:
> > > > > > Claudius Denk:
> > > > > > Humans have endurant qualities. (Specifically, hominids have "slow
> > > > > > twitch" muscles, which are less strong but more endurant.) These
> > > > > > endurant qualities are associated
> > > > > > with all aspects of our existence--
> > > > > > not just running/walking. Endurant qualities are more associated
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > consciousness in general than they are with any particular activity.
> > > > > > Consciousness (awareness) and endurantism have everything to do with
> > > > > > communal territorialism.
> >
> > > > > Endurantism is another word you use without understanding.
> >
> > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endurantism
> > > > > Is there no beginning to your actual knowledge?
> > > > > > Jim McGinn (AKA Claudius Denk)
> >
> > > > "Jimmydurantism":
> >
> > > >http://stayclassic.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/jimmy_durante.jpg
> >
> > > > pete
> >
> > > Sour grapes.
> >
> > No, rolling on the floor laughing.
>
> If you do that in public and too often you might get arrested.
For laughing? Why? OTOH, it's a wonder you haven't been committed.
> >
> > > Sour grapes.
> >
> > No, rolling on the floor laughing.
>
> If you do that in public and too often you might get arrested.
RichTravsky
Aug 19, 2012, 11:07:38 PM8/19/12
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Claudius Denk
Aug 20, 2012, 1:11:12 AM8/20/12
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RichTravsky
Aug 26, 2012, 11:29:04 PM8/26/12
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look dumb.
Claudius Denk
Aug 26, 2012, 11:30:58 PM8/26/12
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RichTravsky
Sep 4, 2012, 11:18:14 PM9/4/12
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Claudius Denk
Sep 5, 2012, 3:00:18 AM9/5/12
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have no hypothesis whatsoever.
Tom McDonald
Sep 5, 2012, 2:46:55 PM9/5/12
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"Endurantism"! :-)
Claudius Denk
Sep 5, 2012, 3:02:49 PM9/5/12
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triviality.
Tom McDonald
Sep 5, 2012, 7:32:05 PM9/5/12
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wherein you could get professional feedback. I think we all know why
that is; and it isn't because it would cause too many hard feelings or
shocks to the system.
Claudius Denk
Sep 5, 2012, 8:03:33 PM9/5/12
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Gatekeeper Hypothesis.
Tom McDonald
Sep 5, 2012, 8:38:53 PM9/5/12
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Claudius Denk
Sep 5, 2012, 9:36:19 PM9/5/12
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RichTravsky
Sep 9, 2012, 11:28:39 PM9/9/12
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ignorance.
RichTravsky
Sep 9, 2012, 11:29:03 PM9/9/12
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Claudius Denk
Sep 10, 2012, 12:12:57 AM9/10/12
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RichTravsky
Sep 15, 2012, 11:16:14 PM9/15/12
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your "hype-othesis" with evidence.
RichTravsky
Sep 15, 2012, 11:16:37 PM9/15/12
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Claudius Denk
Sep 16, 2012, 12:33:53 PM9/16/12
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my hypothesis why would I bother?
Claudius Denk
Sep 16, 2012, 12:34:51 PM9/16/12
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Tom McDonald
Sep 16, 2012, 2:58:16 PM9/16/12
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On 9/16/2012 11:34 AM, Claudius Denk wrote:
> On Sep 15, 8:16 pm, RichTravsky <traRvEskyM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Claudius Denk wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 5, 4:32 pm, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
> On Sep 15, 8:16 pm, RichTravsky <traRvEskyM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Claudius Denk wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 5, 4:32 pm, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> You have a 'hypothesis' that you don't dare make public in a forum
>>>> wherein you could get professional feedback. I think we all know why
>>>> that is; and it isn't because it would cause too many hard feelings or
>>>> shocks to the system.
>>
>>> The "professionals" are all well aware of SAP and my Ecological
>>> Gatekeeper Hypothesis.
>>
>> Really? Like who?
>
> Why don't you ask them?
>
Claudius Denk
Sep 16, 2012, 5:49:52 PM9/16/12
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Tom McDonald
Sep 16, 2012, 6:39:27 PM9/16/12
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paleoanthropology on a professional level knows you exist, or that there
is such a thing as your 'hypothesis'.
It should be extremely easy to prove me wrong. Please feel free to do
so. You could start with your correspondence with Richard Leakey or Don
Johanson or Tim White or John Hawks or Henry and Elaine Bunn.
The last three are at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, and I know
two of them. Provide me proof that you corresponded with them, and I'll
check to see if you are telling the truth.
Now go vague, evasive and abusive. It's not much, but it's all you got.
Claudius Denk
Sep 16, 2012, 7:31:42 PM9/16/12
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On Sep 16, 3:39 pm, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/16/2012 4:49 PM, Claudius Denk wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 16, 11:58 am, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 9/16/2012 11:34 AM, Claudius Denk wrote:
>
> >>> On Sep 15, 8:16 pm, RichTravsky <traRvEskyM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Claudius Denk wrote:
>
> >>>>> On Sep 5, 4:32 pm, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> <snip>
>
> >>>>>> You have a 'hypothesis' that you don't dare make public in a forum
> >>>>>> wherein you could get professional feedback. I think we all know why
> >>>>>> that is; and it isn't because it would cause too many hard feelings or
> >>>>>> shocks to the system.
>
> >>>>> The "professionals" are all well aware of SAP and my Ecological
> >>>>> Gatekeeper Hypothesis.
>
> >>>> Really? Like who?
>
> >>> Why don't you ask them?
>
> >> Ask who? Don't you know?
>
> > Don't you know?
>
> You clearly don't.
Can't say that I care.
> On 9/16/2012 4:49 PM, Claudius Denk wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 16, 11:58 am, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 9/16/2012 11:34 AM, Claudius Denk wrote:
>
> >>> On Sep 15, 8:16 pm, RichTravsky <traRvEskyM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Claudius Denk wrote:
>
> >>>>> On Sep 5, 4:32 pm, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> <snip>
>
> >>>>>> You have a 'hypothesis' that you don't dare make public in a forum
> >>>>>> wherein you could get professional feedback. I think we all know why
> >>>>>> that is; and it isn't because it would cause too many hard feelings or
> >>>>>> shocks to the system.
>
> >>>>> The "professionals" are all well aware of SAP and my Ecological
> >>>>> Gatekeeper Hypothesis.
>
> >>>> Really? Like who?
>
> >>> Why don't you ask them?
>
> >> Ask who? Don't you know?
>
> > Don't you know?
>
> You clearly don't.
In point of fact, no one who is active in
> paleoanthropology on a professional level knows you exist, or that there
> is such a thing as your 'hypothesis'.
> It should be extremely easy to prove me wrong. Please feel free to do
> so. You could start with your correspondence with Richard Leakey or Don
> Johanson or Tim White or John Hawks or Henry and Elaine Bunn.
>
> The last three are at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, and I know
> two of them.
Tom McDonald
Sep 16, 2012, 8:03:13 PM9/16/12
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On 9/16/2012 6:31 PM, Claudius Denk wrote:
> On Sep 16, 3:39 pm, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9/16/2012 4:49 PM, Claudius Denk wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 16, 11:58 am, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/16/2012 11:34 AM, Claudius Denk wrote:
>>
>>>>> On Sep 15, 8:16 pm, RichTravsky <traRvEskyM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Claudius Denk wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 5, 4:32 pm, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> <snip>
>>
>>>>>>>> You have a 'hypothesis' that you don't dare make public in a forum
>>>>>>>> wherein you could get professional feedback. I think we all know why
>>>>>>>> that is; and it isn't because it would cause too many hard feelings or
>>>>>>>> shocks to the system.
>>
>>>>>>> The "professionals" are all well aware of SAP and my Ecological
>>>>>>> Gatekeeper Hypothesis.
>>
>>>>>> Really? Like who?
>>
>>>>> Why don't you ask them?
>>
>>>> Ask who? Don't you know?
>>
>>> Don't you know?
>>
>> You clearly don't.
>
> Can't say that I care.
Yup. I know your credibility means nothing to you.
> On Sep 16, 3:39 pm, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9/16/2012 4:49 PM, Claudius Denk wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 16, 11:58 am, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/16/2012 11:34 AM, Claudius Denk wrote:
>>
>>>>> On Sep 15, 8:16 pm, RichTravsky <traRvEskyM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Claudius Denk wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 5, 4:32 pm, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> <snip>
>>
>>>>>>>> You have a 'hypothesis' that you don't dare make public in a forum
>>>>>>>> wherein you could get professional feedback. I think we all know why
>>>>>>>> that is; and it isn't because it would cause too many hard feelings or
>>>>>>>> shocks to the system.
>>
>>>>>>> The "professionals" are all well aware of SAP and my Ecological
>>>>>>> Gatekeeper Hypothesis.
>>
>>>>>> Really? Like who?
>>
>>>>> Why don't you ask them?
>>
>>>> Ask who? Don't you know?
>>
>>> Don't you know?
>>
>> You clearly don't.
>
> Can't say that I care.
> In point of fact, no one who is active in
>> paleoanthropology on a professional level knows you exist, or that there
>> is such a thing as your 'hypothesis'.
>
> Aren't facts supposed to be, uh, factual?
>> It should be extremely easy to prove me wrong. Please feel free to do
>> so. You could start with your correspondence with Richard Leakey or Don
>> Johanson or Tim White or John Hawks or Henry and Elaine Bunn.
>>
>> The last three are at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, and I know
>> two of them.
>
> Well, then. Why don't you ask them?
>
you haven't the nerve to see if they have even heard of you? They have
better things to do, especially at the beginning of a school year.
I knew you'd run like a little girl, and you did.
Run, Jimmie, Run!
Claudius Denk
Sep 16, 2012, 8:27:43 PM9/16/12
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This being the case, if anybody can be described as "running" it
certainly isn't me.
So, Tom, you had no trouble finding your way to SAP. Maybe you can
ask your buddies why it is that they, it appears, shun this NG.
RichTravsky
Sep 21, 2012, 7:36:50 PM9/21/12
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RichTravsky
Sep 21, 2012, 7:37:09 PM9/21/12
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RichTravsky
Sep 21, 2012, 7:37:41 PM9/21/12
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Claudius Denk wrote:
>
> On Sep 16, 11:58 am, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 9/16/2012 11:34 AM, Claudius Denk wrote:
> > > On Sep 15, 8:16 pm, RichTravsky <traRvEskyM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Claudius Denk wrote:
> >
> > >>> On Sep 5, 4:32 pm, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > >>>> You have a 'hypothesis' that you don't dare make public in a forum
> > >>>> wherein you could get professional feedback. I think we all know why
> > >>>> that is; and it isn't because it would cause too many hard feelings or
> > >>>> shocks to the system.
> >
> > >>> The "professionals" are all well aware of SAP and my Ecological
> > >>> Gatekeeper Hypothesis.
> >
> > >> Really? Like who?
> >
> > > Why don't you ask them?
> >
> > Ask who? Don't you know?
>
> Don't you know?
We're asking *you*.
>
> On Sep 16, 11:58 am, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 9/16/2012 11:34 AM, Claudius Denk wrote:
> > > On Sep 15, 8:16 pm, RichTravsky <traRvEskyM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Claudius Denk wrote:
> >
> > >>> On Sep 5, 4:32 pm, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > >>>> You have a 'hypothesis' that you don't dare make public in a forum
> > >>>> wherein you could get professional feedback. I think we all know why
> > >>>> that is; and it isn't because it would cause too many hard feelings or
> > >>>> shocks to the system.
> >
> > >>> The "professionals" are all well aware of SAP and my Ecological
> > >>> Gatekeeper Hypothesis.
> >
> > >> Really? Like who?
> >
> > > Why don't you ask them?
> >
> > Ask who? Don't you know?
>
> Don't you know?
You wouldn't be lying again, would you?
RichTravsky
Sep 21, 2012, 7:39:15 PM9/21/12
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know about you...
Remember, these are the same scientists you slam.
> > It should be extremely easy to prove me wrong. Please feel free to do
> > so. You could start with your correspondence with Richard Leakey or Don
> > Johanson or Tim White or John Hawks or Henry and Elaine Bunn.
> >
> > The last three are at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, and I know
> > two of them.
>
> Well, then. Why don't you ask them?
RichTravsky
Sep 21, 2012, 7:40:03 PM9/21/12
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Tom McDonald
Sep 21, 2012, 7:51:19 PM9/21/12
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On 9/21/2012 6:37 PM, RichTravsky wrote:
> Claudius Denk wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 16, 11:58 am, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/16/2012 11:34 AM, Claudius Denk wrote:
>>>> On Sep 15, 8:16 pm, RichTravsky <traRvEskyM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Claudius Denk wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 5, 4:32 pm, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>>>> You have a 'hypothesis' that you don't dare make public in a forum
>>>>>>> wherein you could get professional feedback. I think we all know why
>>>>>>> that is; and it isn't because it would cause too many hard feelings or
>>>>>>> shocks to the system.
>>>
>>>>>> The "professionals" are all well aware of SAP and my Ecological
>>>>>> Gatekeeper Hypothesis.
>>>
>>>>> Really? Like who?
>>>
>>>> Why don't you ask them?
>>>
>>> Ask who? Don't you know?
>>
>> Don't you know?
>
> We're asking *you*.
>
> You wouldn't be lying again, would you?
>
Is it lying if he's insane?
> Claudius Denk wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 16, 11:58 am, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/16/2012 11:34 AM, Claudius Denk wrote:
>>>> On Sep 15, 8:16 pm, RichTravsky <traRvEskyM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Claudius Denk wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 5, 4:32 pm, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>>>> You have a 'hypothesis' that you don't dare make public in a forum
>>>>>>> wherein you could get professional feedback. I think we all know why
>>>>>>> that is; and it isn't because it would cause too many hard feelings or
>>>>>>> shocks to the system.
>>>
>>>>>> The "professionals" are all well aware of SAP and my Ecological
>>>>>> Gatekeeper Hypothesis.
>>>
>>>>> Really? Like who?
>>>
>>>> Why don't you ask them?
>>>
>>> Ask who? Don't you know?
>>
>> Don't you know?
>
> We're asking *you*.
>
> You wouldn't be lying again, would you?
>
Tom McDonald
Sep 21, 2012, 7:52:22 PM9/21/12
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That would explain SO much.
RichTravsky
Sep 21, 2012, 7:53:23 PM9/21/12
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RichTravsky
Sep 28, 2012, 10:40:47 PM9/28/12
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Claudius Denk
Sep 29, 2012, 12:29:22 AM9/29/12
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here? Surely they own computers and can operate them effectively.
And it's not like it's hard to find Google Groups. Yet it would
appear that if they have any presence here it's as lurkers. Why do
you think that is?
Lee Olsen
Sep 29, 2012, 1:06:54 AM9/29/12
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From: "Lorenzo L. Love" <lll...@thegrid.net>
Subject: Re: Female Proclivaties and Capital Madness. [was: gradualism
sucks]
Date: 1999/06/21
Message-ID: <376ED09C...@thegrid.net>#1/1
Niccolo Caldararo:
"You really need to do some reading (and I've said this before). You
should read, and I mean read not just skim which seems to be the
thread of
your work here, Kathy Schick and Nicholas Toth's Making Silent Stones
Speak
(1993). It is embarrassing to you (or should be) for you to
continually make
statements which most of us know are unsupported by the data. You need
to
read the literature and find which ideas you have which are just plain
wrong
and which are worthy of development."
Dan Barnes:
"Unfortunately your theory is not in the position where it
can be directly addressed which is why a number of people
have suggested that the best thing you can do is do
substantial background reading, reframe your arguement and
come back again. This is what would happen if you were a
first year university student and I don't see why there
should be an exemption in your case."
Greg Laden:
"Jim: Regarding the above (culled) questions; Imagine yourself in a
graduate student seminar asking your professor these questions? Well,
I'm
not your professor, and you're not my student, but it is an
interesting
thought experiment. I think of myself as very thoughtful of my
students,
and helpful to them, but if a student came back at my questions or
comments
with this sort of response, I would be very unhappy, and there is no
telling what would happen!!! Read the stuff. If you have a vague
memory
of it, that is not good enough. You should be saying things like "No,
you
are wrong. McGrew is irrelevant, because...." etc.! I've given you
the
names of a half dozen scholars who have done important work related to
what
you are interested in. Hit the books, kid!"
Su Solomon:
"Jim I cannot see that this 'idea' of yours is in any ways much
different
to that which was posted almost a year ago on the old PalAnth List.
Once again we have unsubstantiated claims re your interepretation of
the
mechanisms of evolution and the palaeoanthropolgical literature.
I did take the trouble to read your five thousand four hundred words
of
your latest manifesto. From my reading of this, I gathered that in
the
intevening 11 months you have not appeared to have read any of the
comments or advice that were given to you last time you posted an
extermely similiar 'unsubstantiated idea re evolution'. If you had
taken onboard any of the advised literature that was given at that
time,
then if is not evident in this latest of postings."
JTEM
Oct 1, 2012, 2:50:09 AM10/1/12
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Sick fuck, Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> From: "Lorenzo L. Love" <lll...@thegrid.net>
> Subject: Re: Female Proclivaties and Capital Madness. [was: gradualism
> sucks]
> Date: 1999/06/21
You're so mentally ill that you actually dig back
> From: "Lorenzo L. Love" <lll...@thegrid.net>
> Subject: Re: Female Proclivaties and Capital Madness. [was: gradualism
> sucks]
> Date: 1999/06/21
more than 13 years in order to avoid dealing with
what's in front of you?
Wow, you're fucked up.
Lee Olsen
Oct 1, 2012, 10:31:46 AM10/1/12
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Watch JTEM forget that he posted using one of his many sock puppets
(in this case Seth Dwight) , then answers my reply using the usual
pseud JTEM, forgetting to morph back into sock puppet Seth:
Received: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 14:59:41 -0700 (PDT)
Newsgroups: sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.archaeology
Subject: Look, everyone, look!
From: Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
>I need only crank the organ and the monkey will dance!
Mar 24, 5:23 pm
Lee Olsen wrote:
> > Cranking your organ is the only job you ever had.
JTEM replies with this classic Freudian slip (forgetting to use his
'Seth' handle and using "I" instead):
On Mar 25, 5:03 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you a sick fuck because you sexualize everything
> I say, or do you sexualize everything I say because
> you're a sick fuck?
Everything "I" say? What happened to sock puppet 'Seth' who made the
post?
JTEM has proven himself to be the dumbest sock puppet on the planet.
JTEM 12 Dec 2007 04:18 GMT
"I've also posted many, many, many other "fake" articles in
other groups, which few people didn't recognize as parody.
Yes, even when posted under a different name people had
no problems seeing that they were parodies."
Multiple IPs, multiple emails, multiple-personality disorder.
Get some help, sicko.
(in this case Seth Dwight) , then answers my reply using the usual
pseud JTEM, forgetting to morph back into sock puppet Seth:
Received: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 14:59:41 -0700 (PDT)
Newsgroups: sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.archaeology
Subject: Look, everyone, look!
From: Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
>I need only crank the organ and the monkey will dance!
Mar 24, 5:23 pm
Lee Olsen wrote:
> > Cranking your organ is the only job you ever had.
JTEM replies with this classic Freudian slip (forgetting to use his
'Seth' handle and using "I" instead):
On Mar 25, 5:03 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you a sick fuck because you sexualize everything
> I say, or do you sexualize everything I say because
> you're a sick fuck?
Everything "I" say? What happened to sock puppet 'Seth' who made the
post?
JTEM has proven himself to be the dumbest sock puppet on the planet.
JTEM 12 Dec 2007 04:18 GMT
"I've also posted many, many, many other "fake" articles in
other groups, which few people didn't recognize as parody.
Yes, even when posted under a different name people had
no problems seeing that they were parodies."
Multiple IPs, multiple emails, multiple-personality disorder.
Get some help, sicko.
JTEM
Oct 2, 2012, 1:25:10 AM10/2/12
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Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Watch JTEM forget that he posted using one of his many sock puppets
> (in this case Seth Dwight) , then answers my reply using the usual
> pseud JTEM, forgetting to morph back into sock puppet Seth:
I'm watching. You're fucked up. Nothing you say
> Watch JTEM forget that he posted using one of his many sock puppets
> (in this case Seth Dwight) , then answers my reply using the usual
> pseud JTEM, forgetting to morph back into sock puppet Seth:
actually appears in what you quote. You are
literally imagining things in an attempt to consciously
avoid the truth:
You. Are. Fucked. up.
You're a Multiple Personality Disorder. You know it. I
know it. Deal with it. Get yourself medicated, get
yourself institutionalized, do SOMETHING if it disturbs
you so much.
Right now, you're just hanging your mental illness out
for everyone to see and laugh at.
Lee Olsen
Oct 2, 2012, 10:12:02 AM10/2/12
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On Oct 1, 10:25 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Watch JTEM forget that he posted using one of his many sock puppets
> > (in this case Seth Dwight) , then answers my reply using the usual
> > pseud JTEM, forgetting to morph back into sock puppet Seth:
>
> Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Watch JTEM forget that he posted using one of his many sock puppets
> > (in this case Seth Dwight) , then answers my reply using the usual
> > pseud JTEM, forgetting to morph back into sock puppet Seth:
>
> Nothing you say
> actually appears in what you quote.
Not after you get done snipping out the incriminating facts.
> actually appears in what you quote.
How dishonest, but expected from a self-confessed sock puppet.
Watch JTEM forget that he posted using one of his many sock puppets
(in this case Seth Dwight) , then answers my reply using the usual
pseud JTEM, forgetting to morph back into sock puppet Seth:
RichTravsky
Oct 6, 2012, 11:45:50 PM10/6/12
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Claudius Denk
Oct 7, 2012, 3:23:03 PM10/7/12
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On Oct 6, 8:45 pm, RichTravsky <traRvEskyM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Claudius Denk wrote:
>
> > On Sep 16, 11:58 am, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 9/16/2012 11:34 AM, Claudius Denk wrote:
> > > > On Sep 15, 8:16 pm, RichTravsky <traRvEskyM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> Claudius Denk wrote:
>
> > > >>> On Sep 5, 4:32 pm, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > <snip>
>
> > > >>>> You have a 'hypothesis' that you don't dare make public in a forum
> > > >>>> wherein you could get professional feedback. I think we all know why
> > > >>>> that is; and it isn't because it would cause too many hard feelings or
> > > >>>> shocks to the system.
>
> > > >>> The "professionals" are all well aware of SAP and my Ecological
> > > >>> Gatekeeper Hypothesis.
>
> > > >> Really? Like who?
>
> > > > Why don't you ask them?
>
> > > Ask who? Don't you know?
>
> > Don't you know?
>
> We're asking *you*.
>
> You wouldn't be lying again, would you?
Did you really expect anybody to believe that you don't know who they
> Claudius Denk wrote:
>
> > On Sep 16, 11:58 am, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 9/16/2012 11:34 AM, Claudius Denk wrote:
> > > > On Sep 15, 8:16 pm, RichTravsky <traRvEskyM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> Claudius Denk wrote:
>
> > > >>> On Sep 5, 4:32 pm, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > <snip>
>
> > > >>>> You have a 'hypothesis' that you don't dare make public in a forum
> > > >>>> wherein you could get professional feedback. I think we all know why
> > > >>>> that is; and it isn't because it would cause too many hard feelings or
> > > >>>> shocks to the system.
>
> > > >>> The "professionals" are all well aware of SAP and my Ecological
> > > >>> Gatekeeper Hypothesis.
>
> > > >> Really? Like who?
>
> > > > Why don't you ask them?
>
> > > Ask who? Don't you know?
>
> > Don't you know?
>
> We're asking *you*.
>
> You wouldn't be lying again, would you?
are and that you couldn't contact them if you were so inclined?
Tom McDonald
Oct 7, 2012, 3:28:23 PM10/7/12
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and that "they", whom you don't know, read this ng? You might, being as
how you seem to be delusional in other areas.
Claudius Denk
Oct 7, 2012, 4:32:13 PM10/7/12
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this NG, did you? You had no trouble finding, reading, and attempting
to dispute the details of my hypothesis, did you? What makes you
think it would be any different for them, or for anybody that is
educated and that owns a computer hooked to the internet and who is
genuinely interested in finding the truth of hominid evolution? You
tell me Tom, what makes more sense? That they are aware of it and are
pretending otherwise or that they are, somehow, unaware of it?
Have you ever heard of Kuhn?
Tom McDonald
Oct 7, 2012, 4:44:43 PM10/7/12
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fact is that they don't spend their precious time on places like this
for cutting-edge discussions in their field. That you don't know this is
telling.
They have much, much better communications within their field than this
public sewer.
> Have you ever heard of Kuhn?
>
that would result in a paradigm change in paleoanthropology?
On further review, I suspect you might be so deluded that you probably
*do* think just that.
Jim, you're a silly pustule on the buttocks of real science. No one who
gets paid to do the relevant science even knows about you or your
silliness; and if, by some miracle, one did, s/he would post print-outs
of your maundering on their office doors, like other jokes and cartoons.
Claudius Denk
Oct 7, 2012, 5:06:38 PM10/7/12
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> They have much, much better communications within their field than this
> public sewer.
> > Have you ever heard of Kuhn?
>
> Your point? Do you really think your 'hypothesis' is the sort of thing
> that would result in a paradigm change in paleoanthropology?
> On further review, I suspect you might be so deluded that you probably
> *do* think just that.
> Jim, you're a silly pustule on the buttocks of real science. No one who
> gets paid to do the relevant science even knows about you or your
> silliness; and if, by some miracle, one did, s/he would post print-outs
> of your maundering on their office doors, like other jokes and cartoons.
That speaks volumes.
Tom McDonald
Oct 7, 2012, 5:13:42 PM10/7/12
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>> They have much, much better communications within their field than this
>> public sewer.
>
> Show us the evidence? Or
from that site.
Jeez, Jim, you are ignorant.
>>> Have you ever heard of Kuhn?
>>
>> Your point? Do you really think your 'hypothesis' is the sort of thing
>> that would result in a paradigm change in paleoanthropology?
>
> Apparently it already has.
>> On further review, I suspect you might be so deluded that you probably
>> *do* think just that.
>
> Why would I not think this?
>
>> Jim, you're a silly pustule on the buttocks of real science. No one who
>> gets paid to do the relevant science even knows about you or your
>> silliness; and if, by some miracle, one did, s/he would post print-outs
>> of your maundering on their office doors, like other jokes and cartoons.
>
> They will not even acknowledge the question.
case wrt real scientists.
If you think any real paleontologist has ever read your 'hypothesis',
please provide the name and affiliation of that person. Failure to do so
will speak volumes.
> That speaks volumes.
>
Yes. It means that you aren't a blip on the radar of any real scientist.
And for very good reason.
Claudius Denk
Oct 7, 2012, 11:40:30 PM10/7/12
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> >> They have much, much better communications within their field than this
> >> public sewer.
>
> > Show us the evidence? Or
>
> Read John Hawks' blog, for one. Then follow the links to other venues
> from that site.
> Jeez, Jim, you are ignorant.
> >>> Have you ever heard of Kuhn?
>
> >> Your point? Do you really think your 'hypothesis' is the sort of thing
> >> that would result in a paradigm change in paleoanthropology?
>
> > Apparently it already has.
>
> Show us the evidence? Or...
> >> On further review, I suspect you might be so deluded that you probably
> >> *do* think just that.
>
> > Why would I not think this?
> >> Jim, you're a silly pustule on the buttocks of real science. No one who
> >> gets paid to do the relevant science even knows about you or your
> >> silliness; and if, by some miracle, one did, s/he would post print-outs
> >> of your maundering on their office doors, like other jokes and cartoons.
>
> > They will not even acknowledge the question.
>
> Do you acknowledge things you have never heard of? That's exactly the
> case wrt real scientists.
fact that they have no answer to it.
> If you think any real paleontologist has ever read your 'hypothesis',
> please provide the name and affiliation of that person. Failure to do so
> will speak volumes.
>
> > That speaks volumes.
>
> Yes. It means that you aren't a blip on the radar of any real scientist.
such or is a person a real scientist because they do science?
> And for very good reason.
they will have to deal with the fact that they have nothing that
competes with it. They have very good reasons to pretend it doesn't
exist.
JTEM
Oct 8, 2012, 12:51:57 AM10/8/12
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Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Watch JTEM forget that he posted using one of his many sock puppets
> (in this case Seth Dwight) , then answers my reply using the usual
> pseud JTEM, forgetting to morph back into sock puppet Seth:
> Watch JTEM forget that he posted using one of his many sock puppets
> (in this case Seth Dwight) , then answers my reply using the usual
> pseud JTEM, forgetting to morph back into sock puppet Seth:
Lee Olsen
Oct 8, 2012, 8:14:35 AM10/8/12
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"JTEM" <j_deerfi...@hotmail.com>
Jack Teehan <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
In His Glory: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> a human can out-run a horse in the desert.
Correct. Thanks for posting.
All previous winning horses have been disqualified on
sci.anthropology.paleo.
This is a paleo group. Paleo H/G did not domesticate or have purebred
race horses. So any horse with a rider is cheating... same as doping.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/mid_/3801177.stm
http://www.cybertracker.org/background/our-story
Mr. Karoha can run down a Kudu in a few hours. No horse would stand a
chance against this tracking/killing machine.
Jack Teehan <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
In His Glory: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> a human can out-run a horse in the desert.
Correct. Thanks for posting.
All previous winning horses have been disqualified on
sci.anthropology.paleo.
This is a paleo group. Paleo H/G did not domesticate or have purebred
race horses. So any horse with a rider is cheating... same as doping.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/mid_/3801177.stm
http://www.cybertracker.org/background/our-story
Mr. Karoha can run down a Kudu in a few hours. No horse would stand a
chance against this tracking/killing machine.
JTEM
Oct 8, 2012, 3:13:42 PM10/8/12
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Oct 8, 2012, 9:25:18 PM10/8/12
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http://www.naturalhistorymag.com/master.html?http://www.naturalhistorymag.com/1206/1206_samplings.html
December 2006–January 2007
"Running Man Couch potatoes may disagree, but people are fairly well
built to run in the heat.
We sweat more per unit of body surface area than any other animal, and
our upright posture
exposes less body surface to the sun than would walking on all fours,
and more surface to the
cooling wind. On the hunt, those traits give people a distinct
advantage over most quarry.
In fact, Australian Aborigines and various Native American and African
groups have
traditionally practiced “persistence hunting,” chasing antelopes or
other game in the midday heat,
often for hours, until the animals overheat and collapse.
During the past twenty years, Louis Liebenberg, an animal tracker and
the owner of CyberTracker
Software in Cape Town, South Africa, has observed the only
persistence hunters still left, the
!Xo and /Gwi bushmen of the central Kalahari in Botswana. He reports
a success rate as high
as 80 percent—and a meat yield that beats hunting with bow and arrow,
club, or spear. Only
hunting with dogs proved superior.
On Oct 8, 12:13 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sick fuck
December 2006–January 2007
"Running Man Couch potatoes may disagree, but people are fairly well
built to run in the heat.
We sweat more per unit of body surface area than any other animal, and
our upright posture
exposes less body surface to the sun than would walking on all fours,
and more surface to the
cooling wind. On the hunt, those traits give people a distinct
advantage over most quarry.
In fact, Australian Aborigines and various Native American and African
groups have
traditionally practiced “persistence hunting,” chasing antelopes or
other game in the midday heat,
often for hours, until the animals overheat and collapse.
During the past twenty years, Louis Liebenberg, an animal tracker and
the owner of CyberTracker
Software in Cape Town, South Africa, has observed the only
persistence hunters still left, the
!Xo and /Gwi bushmen of the central Kalahari in Botswana. He reports
a success rate as high
as 80 percent—and a meat yield that beats hunting with bow and arrow,
club, or spear. Only
hunting with dogs proved superior.
On Oct 8, 12:13 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sick fuck
"JTEM" <j_deerfi...@hotmail.com>
Jack Teehan <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
In His Glory: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
Jack Teehan <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
In His Glory: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
From: Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
>I need only crank the organ and the monkey will dance!
Mar 24, 5:23 pm
Lee Olsen wrote:
> > Cranking your organ is the only job you ever had.
JTEM replies with this classic:
>I need only crank the organ and the monkey will dance!
Mar 24, 5:23 pm
Lee Olsen wrote:
> > Cranking your organ is the only job you ever had.
On Mar 25, 5:03 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you a sick fuck because you sexualize everything
> I say, or do you sexualize everything I say because
> you're a sick fuck?
"I"? You are so stupid you forgot which pseud you were using.
> Are you a sick fuck because you sexualize everything
> I say, or do you sexualize everything I say because
> you're a sick fuck?
JTEM
Oct 14, 2012, 5:26:50 AM10/14/12
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Lee Olsen
Oct 14, 2012, 8:14:54 AM10/14/12
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On Oct 14, 2:26 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sick fuck
"JTEM" <j_deerfi...@hotmail.com>
Jack Teehan <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
In His Glory: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
On Oct 5, 10:02 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sick fuck
"JTEM" <j_deerfi...@hotmail.com>
Jack Teehan <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
In His Glory: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
> Instead of trying to claim that everyone
> posting who is not me has to be me,
Nothing like a confession to give credibility to your claims:
Confession 1
JTEM 12 Dec 2007 04:18 GMT
"I've also posted many, many, many other "fake" articles in
other groups, which few people didn't recognize as parody.
Yes, even when posted under a different name people had
no problems seeing that they were parodies."
Confession 2
"I've also posted many, many, many other "fake" articles in
other groups, which few people didn't recognize as parody.
Yes, even when posted under a different name people had
no problems seeing that they were parodies."
RichTravsky
Oct 14, 2012, 11:03:22 PM10/14/12
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RichTravsky
Oct 14, 2012, 11:04:15 PM10/14/12
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RichTravsky
Oct 14, 2012, 11:05:31 PM10/14/12
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> > They have much, much better communications within their field than this
> > public sewer.
>
> Show us the evidence? Or
Claudius Denk
Oct 16, 2012, 2:13:22 AM10/16/12
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hypothesis that competes with mine that you would not just present it?
Claudius Denk
Oct 19, 2012, 6:00:14 PM10/19/12
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Do you think it is not obvious that if the "professionals" had a
JTEM
Oct 20, 2012, 12:58:55 AM10/20/12
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Thinking he was supporting his "Persistence
Hunting," Lee/Lloyd/etc posted
the following link as "proof" that man can
out-run a horse.
....what the story actually states is, speaking
of the human runner:
: He was able to take advantage of rules saying the
: horse must make two 40-minute food and water
: breaks.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/animals/newsid_1804000/1804830.stm
Hunting," Lee/Lloyd/etc posted
the following link as "proof" that man can
out-run a horse.
....what the story actually states is, speaking
of the human runner:
: He was able to take advantage of rules saying the
: horse must make two 40-minute food and water
: breaks.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/animals/newsid_1804000/1804830.stm
Lee Olsen
Oct 20, 2012, 1:04:37 AM10/20/12
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Claudius Denk
Oct 20, 2012, 10:03:40 AM10/20/12
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RichTravsky
Oct 21, 2012, 9:54:23 PM10/21/12
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Ooops.
Claudius Denk
Oct 22, 2012, 1:53:59 PM10/22/12
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JTEM
Oct 26, 2012, 7:05:47 AM10/26/12
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Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Watch JTEM forget that he posted using one of his many sock puppets
> (in this case Seth Dwight) , then answers my reply using the usual
> pseud JTEM, forgetting to morph back into sock puppet Seth:
> Watch JTEM forget that he posted using one of his many sock puppets
> (in this case Seth Dwight) , then answers my reply using the usual
> pseud JTEM, forgetting to morph back into sock puppet Seth:
Lee Olsen
Oct 26, 2012, 10:05:01 AM10/26/12
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From: Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
>I need only crank the organ and the monkey will dance!
Mar 24, 5:23 pm
Lee Olsen wrote:
> > Cranking your organ is the only job you ever had.
JTEM replies with this classic slip:
>I need only crank the organ and the monkey will dance!
Mar 24, 5:23 pm
Lee Olsen wrote:
> > Cranking your organ is the only job you ever had.
On Mar 25, 5:03 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you a sick fuck because you sexualize everything
> I say, or do you sexualize everything I say because
> you're a sick fuck?
"I need"....."I say"??? You are so stupid you forgot which pseud you
> Are you a sick fuck because you sexualize everything
> I say, or do you sexualize everything I say because
> you're a sick fuck?
were using.
RichTravsky
Oct 29, 2012, 12:16:18 AM10/29/12
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Claudius Denk
Oct 29, 2012, 2:36:00 AM10/29/12
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hypothesis. Additionally, it's not my responsibility to educate you
on the evidence. I'm not running a hand holding service here. The
evidence can be found at any college library.
JTEM
Oct 29, 2012, 5:51:45 AM10/29/12
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Lee Olsen
Oct 29, 2012, 10:56:15 AM10/29/12
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On Oct 29, 2:51 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Watch JTEM forget that he posted using one of his many sock puppets
> > (in this case Seth Dwight) , then answers my reply using the usual
> > pseud JTEM, forgetting to morph back into sock puppet Seth:
>
> I'm watching.
No, you are snipping out the incriminating evidence and that's what
> Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Watch JTEM forget that he posted using one of his many sock puppets
> > (in this case Seth Dwight) , then answers my reply using the usual
> > pseud JTEM, forgetting to morph back into sock puppet Seth:
>
> I'm watching.
assholes do best.
So you watch this:
From: Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
>I need only crank the organ and the monkey will dance!
Mar 24, 5:23 pm
Lee Olsen wrote:
> > Cranking your organ is the only job you ever had.
JTEM replies with this classic:
>I need only crank the organ and the monkey will dance!
Mar 24, 5:23 pm
Lee Olsen wrote:
> > Cranking your organ is the only job you ever had.
On Mar 25, 5:03 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you a sick fuck because you sexualize everything
> I say, or do you sexualize everything I say because
> you're a sick fuck?
"I"? You are so stupid you forgot which pseud you were using.
> Are you a sick fuck because you sexualize everything
> I say, or do you sexualize everything I say because
> you're a sick fuck?
And the whole world can see your stupidity, again.
Claudius Denk
Oct 29, 2012, 6:43:37 PM10/29/12
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JTEM
Oct 30, 2012, 2:37:02 AM10/30/12
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Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Watch JTEM forget that he posted using one of his many sock puppets
> (in this case Seth Dwight) , then answers my reply using the usual
> pseud JTEM, forgetting to morph back into sock puppet Seth:
I'm watching, you silly billy. Nothing you say
> Watch JTEM forget that he posted using one of his many sock puppets
> (in this case Seth Dwight) , then answers my reply using the usual
> pseud JTEM, forgetting to morph back into sock puppet Seth:
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