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Marc Verhaegen

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Jan 13, 2024, 8:09:09 AMJan 13
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Mario Petrinovic

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Jan 13, 2024, 7:44:39 PMJan 13
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Primum Sapienti

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Jan 22, 2024, 12:00:26 AMJan 22
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Marc Verhaegen

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Jan 22, 2024, 1:32:57 PMJan 22
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Some retarded antelope runner believes this supports his religion:
> https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-puppies-diving-underwater-2014-9

Of course, most mammals can swim, but human babies underwater hold their breath, calmly swim to the surface, then turn over, belly up, nose above water, e.g.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=z4xWhhSFwUI
or google "baby swim".

Is there still 1 idiot who believes these nonsense:
1) "out of Africa" (humans like all Asian primates lack Pliocene African retroviral DNA),
2) "endurance running" (sweating water+salt = sea-water),
3) "australopith ancestors":
Mario Vaneechoutte cs 2024 Nature Anthrop.2,10007
“Have we been barking up the wrong ancestral tree?
Australopithecines are probably not our ancestors”
open access https://www.sciepublish.com/article/pii/94

Mario Petrinovic

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Jan 23, 2024, 12:00:26 PMJan 23
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On 22.1.2024. 6:00, Primum Sapienti wrote:
> https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-puppies-diving-underwater-2014-9

The only purpose of cartilage in nose is to help to close nose by
pinch grip. And it is only useful if you roll in water, because it
prevents air to go out. If you are unable to make pinch grip, i.e., if
you have hook-like hands, i.e., if you are living on trees, to close
your nose you have to have nose shaped like male Proboscis monkey,
because in that case you use only four fingers to close your nose (i.e.,
you cannot use pinch grip because your thumb is out of the way).
Now, see how many variables are in this theory. It is very hard to be
understood by a fool, this is why fools don't understand it, and will
never be able to understand it, whether those fools have just a primary
school, or whether they are the members of Academy.

Mario Petrinovic

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Jan 23, 2024, 12:04:34 PMJan 23
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The second thing, the fact that humans have subcutaneous fat, points
directly to aquatic lifestyle. Now, you may have some other theory, but
to disregard aquatic theory flatly, in a case when an animal has
subcutaneous fat, is just sheer blindness. And the whole scientific
community has this blindness.

Mario Petrinovic

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Jan 23, 2024, 12:06:09 PMJan 23
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So, please, post another "proof" that aquatic theory cannot be, and
show to everybody how smart really you are.

Marc Verhaegen

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Jan 23, 2024, 1:18:27 PMJan 23
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Op dinsdag 23 januari 2024 om 18:00:26 UTC+1 schreef Mario Petrinovic:

> The only purpose of cartilage in nose is to help to close nose by
> pinch grip.

Archaic Homo was prognathic: philtrum + upper lip perfectly closed the nares: no need for fingers.
The nose form (dorsum nasi) = streamline for underwater swimming.

Only complete idiots believe their ancestors evolved big noses + poor olfaction for hunting antelopes... :-DDD

Marc Verhaegen

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Jan 23, 2024, 1:28:07 PMJan 23
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Op dinsdag 23 januari 2024 om 18:04:34 UTC+1 schreef Mario Petrinovic:

> The second thing, the fact that humans have subcutaneous fat, points
> directly to aquatic lifestyle. Now, you may have some other theory, but
> to disregard aquatic theory flatly, in a case when an animal has
> subcutaneous fat, is just sheer blindness. And the whole scientific
> community has this blindness.

Not all paleo-anthropologists are that stupid any more, Mario,
e.g. prof.Tobias in his old days rejected the savanna nonsense:
only *complete* idiots believe we evolved flat feet, enormous brains, platycephalic skulls, big noses, poor olfaction, SC fat, fur loss, sebaceous & eccrine glands etc.etc. to run after antelopes... :-DDD

How can some self-declared "scientists" remain soooo stupid??
It's really not difficult at all:
https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/

Mario Petrinovic

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Jan 23, 2024, 3:19:14 PMJan 23
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As I wrote, the only purpose of cartilage in our nose is to
watertightly close our nose by pinch grip. Almost exactly like male
Proboscis monkey, who, actually, does live the aquarboreal lifestyle.

Marc Verhaegen

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Jan 23, 2024, 7:09:28 PMJan 23
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Op dinsdag 23 januari 2024 om 21:19:14 UTC+1 schreef Mario Petrinovic:

> >> The only purpose of cartilage in nose is to help to close nose by
> >> pinch grip.

Nonsense, Mario: diving with pinch grip? :-DDD That's almost as ridiculous as running after antelopes with flat feet.
Archaic Homo was prognathic: they simply closed the nose with the upper lip (+ moustache).
Even some humans still can do that.

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> > Archaic Homo was prognathic: philtrum + upper lip perfectly closed the nares: no need for fingers.
> > The nose form (dorsum nasi) = streamline for underwater swimming.
> > Only complete idiots believe their ancestors evolved big noses + poor olfaction for hunting antelopes... :-DDD

...

Mario Petrinovic

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Jan 23, 2024, 8:58:41 PMJan 23
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On 24.1.2024. 1:09, Marc Verhaegen wrote:
> Op dinsdag 23 januari 2024 om 21:19:14 UTC+1 schreef Mario Petrinovic:
>>>> The only purpose of cartilage in nose is to help to close nose by
>>>> pinch grip.
>
> Nonsense, Mario: diving with pinch grip? :-DDD That's almost as ridiculous as running after antelopes with flat feet.
> Archaic Homo was prognathic: they simply closed the nose with the upper lip (+ moustache).
> Even some humans still can do that.

That's alright. This still doesn't change the fact that the only
purpose of cartilage is to help in watertightly closing the nose.
Whether you understand the circumstances or not. I do understand them,
but this is a bit more complicated, it isn't simple, like "chimps live
on trees, hence we lived on trees", and I am afraid this would be a bit
too much for you, :) .

Primum Sapienti

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Jan 26, 2024, 12:43:03 AMJan 26
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Snorkel Nose wrote:
> Some retarded antelope runner believes this supports his religion:
>> https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-puppies-diving-underwater-2014-9
>
> Of course, most mammals can swim, but human babies underwater hold their
breath, calmly swim to the surface, then turn over, belly up, nose above
water, e.g.

That's what the puppies in the link are doing.

There is nothing special about it.
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