DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
> Neanderthals did not have long arms vs Hs, He, P spp. How'd they climb trees? Did they get a lift from friendly "dragons"?
You don't need long arms to climb into the trees. You only need the long arms to
maneuver THROUGH trees. To just climb up & down having your center of
gravity close to the trunk is extremely helpful, AND it would have been helped
with all the "Cold Adaptations" that are usually talked about. In other words,
there would have been more than one source of selective pressure under this
Actually, many I started toying with this idea because of ambush hunting.
See, throwing spears appear to vanish from the archaeological record for
200,000 to 300,000 years, depending on the source. I don't care which you
pick, either way it is a very long time. And I used to just brush it all as the
result of human conflict.
"A man who throws his spear disarms himself."
I pointed out that without massed volleys of spear, like in Roman armies,
A Steven Hawking would have had zero difficulty in dodging a spear from
You can step away from an arrow, too.
And the only time this isn't true is if your enemy doesn't see you: Ambush!
Well. Ambush hunting is a thing, I found lots of good cites, and none of them
had anything to do with missile fire. Oh they often involved spears but they
weren't thrown very far at all, more like a thrust...
ALSO: Whether they are in conflict with other humans or not, they still had to
eat. So if they switched to thrusting spears they needed food they could
acquire with thrusting spears...
Youtube is far from sweet on videos showing people killing animals. So, most
of the sources I originally found are gone but, there were videos of people
ambush hunting deer from the ground (lying in white, concealed) and videos
of people hunting far more dangerous prey, like bears and boars, from up in
You know how it works: You find a tree overlooking a game trail, or maybe
even employ bait. You climb on up and wait. When an animals comes by you
thrust a spear down, into the animal for the kill. They rarely die right away but
once stuck in them the lever action of the long shaft cuts a huge fan-shaped
swath inside the animal, the banging of the shaft against any trees or brush
as it tries to flee making it all the worse, ensuring a quick and (more importantly)
a close-by death.
You don't want to spear an animal only for it to run off for miles, dropping dead
as food for wolves...
Long blades work best for this kind of hunting. The longer the blade the more
cutting surface as the weight of the shaft together with the animal banging it
around slices away at its innards.
So we actually have what might be an IMPROVED, a SUPERIOR form of hunting
with this Ambush Hunting, certainly reducing the threat from messing with the
more dangerous animals, while not relying on a form a weapon that disarms
them when used.