Re: Jason and the Whales

Jason

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Mar 22, 2012, 2:54:14 AM3/22/12

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In article
<dcb2026a-4e6c-453d...@q11g2000vbu.googlegroups.com>,
Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 21, 11:22=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article
> > <01d238c1-b9ab-4272-9f4a-5cd68b4d8...@eb6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Mar 21, 3:27=3DA0pm, harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Mar 21, 12:49=3DA0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > > > In article
> > > > > <3a3f4e5f-3f57-4a1a-bda3-1bcdf3bec...@l7g2000vbw.googlegroups.com>,=
> Dev=3D
> > > ils
> >
> > > > > Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Mar 21, 6:46=3D3DA0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > <a23075b2-9c91-47da-abeb-4d53af655...@9g2000vbq.googlegroups.co=
> m>, =3D
> > > Caranx
> >
> > > > > > > latus <aug.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Mar 20, 4:26=3D3D3DA0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > <6a965ae5-0ece-4d74-84de-9f736303f...@hs8g2000vbb.googlegro=
> ups.=3D
> > > com>,
> >
> > > > > > > > > Caranx latus <aug.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Mar 20, 2:42=3D3D3D3DA0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wr=
> ote:
> > > > > > > > > > > In article <XnsA01BAFE9A8ABCnomailcomcast...@216.196.12=
> 1.13=3D
> > > 1>, Mi=3D3D
> > > > > > tche=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > ll
> > > > > > > > > > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > <snip>
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regardless, there are still millions of evil people=
> in =3D
> > > the wo=3D3D
> > > > > > rld.=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > =3D3DA0If
> > > > > > > > > > > > > you don't believe me, visit Las Vegas and take a lo=
> ok a=3D
> > > t the =3D3D
> > > > > > sign=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > s.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > =3D3D3D3DA0 =3D3D3D3DA0 You clearly haven't been to V=
> egas. Th=3D
> > > e entertai=3D3D
> > > > > > ners
> > > > > > > > > > > > are professional, the tourists like tourists everywhe=
> re,
> > > > > > > > > > > > the gamblers are just sad. What "evil" are you talkin=
> g
> > > > > > > > > > > > about?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Some streets have signs advertising totally nude shows.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Advertising nudity on the street is evil?
> >
> > > > > > > > > They were signs mounted on large bars.
> >
> > > > > > > > I'm not seeing the evil part yet.
> >
> > > > > > > The signs mounted on the outside of the various bars indicated =
> that
> > > > > > > totally nude women were dancing in those "strip" bars.
> >
> > > > > > Curious isn't it? The ones who believe Adam and Eve were created
> > > > > > naked, believe that nudity is evil.
> >
> > > > > I doubt that Eve done any pole dancing--at least--I hope not.
> >
> > > > Tell us, Jason, what is wrong with nudity?
> >
> > > > Harry K
> >
> > > If it were evil and sinful we would all be born fully clothed. :)
> >
> > It's only sinful if it happens in strip bars or houses of prostitution.
>
> So if I walk down the main street of your town I'm doing nothing wrong.

No--however, if you are nude when you do it--you would probably be
arrested related to nudity laws.

Devils Advocaat

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Mar 22, 2012, 5:41:23 AM3/22/12

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On Mar 22, 6:54 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article

> <dcb2026a-4e6c-453d-a64a-efa440a43...@q11g2000vbu.googlegroups.com>,

I forgot to mention being nude.

But tell me.

If it isn't sinful except in strip bars and brothels.

Why should I be arrested for being nude in the street?

Jason

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Mar 22, 2012, 12:36:56 PM3/22/12

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In article
<24cd63b8-c289-4694...@gw9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 22, 6:54=A0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article
> > <dcb2026a-4e6c-453d-a64a-efa440a43...@q11g2000vbu.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > On Mar 21, 11:22=3DA0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <01d238c1-b9ab-4272-9f4a-5cd68b4d8...@eb6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > On Mar 21, 3:27=3D3DA0pm, harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > On Mar 21, 12:49=3D3DA0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > In article

> > > > > > > <3a3f4e5f-3f57-4a1a-bda3-1bcdf3bec...@l7g2000vbw.googlegroups.c=
> om>,=3D
> > > =A0Dev=3D3D
> > > > > ils
> >
> > > > > > > Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 6:46=3D3D3DA0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > > > > > > In article

> > > > > > > > > <a23075b2-9c91-47da-abeb-4d53af655...@9g2000vbq.googlegroup=
> s.co=3D
> > > m>, =3D3D
> > > > > Caranx
> >
> > > > > > > > > latus <aug.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Mar 20, 4:26=3D3D3D3DA0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wr=
> ote:
> > > > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > > > <6a965ae5-0ece-4d74-84de-9f736303f...@hs8g2000vbb.googl=
> egro=3D
> > > ups.=3D3D

> > > > > com>,
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Caranx latus <aug.r...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 20, 2:42=3D3D3D3D3DA0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jas=
> on) wr=3D
> > > ote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > In article <XnsA01BAFE9A8ABCnomailcomcast...@216.19=
> 6.12=3D
> > > 1.13=3D3D
> > > > > 1>, Mi=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > tche=3D3D3D3D

> > > > > > > > > > ll
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > <snip>
> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regardless, there are still millions of evil pe=
> ople=3D
> > > =A0in =3D3D
> > > > > the wo=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > rld.=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > =3D3D3DA0If
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you don't believe me, visit Las Vegas and take =
> a lo=3D
> > > ok a=3D3D
> > > > > t the =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > sign=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > s.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > =3D3D3D3D3DA0 =3D3D3D3D3DA0 You clearly haven't b=
> een to V=3D
> > > egas. Th=3D3D
> > > > > e entertai=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > ners
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are professional, the tourists like tourists ever=
> ywhe=3D
> > > re,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the gamblers are just sad. What "evil" are you ta=
> lkin=3D
> > > g
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > about?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Some streets have signs advertising totally nude sh=

> ows.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Advertising nudity on the street is evil?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > They were signs mounted on large bars.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > I'm not seeing the evil part yet.
> >

> > > > > > > > > The signs mounted on the outside of the various bars indica=
> ted =3D

> > > that
> > > > > > > > > totally nude women were dancing in those "strip" bars.
> >

> > > > > > > > Curious isn't it? The ones who believe Adam and Eve were crea=

> ted
> > > > > > > > naked, believe that nudity is evil.
> >
> > > > > > > I doubt that Eve done any pole dancing--at least--I hope not.
> >
> > > > > > Tell us, Jason, what is wrong with nudity?
> >
> > > > > > Harry K
> >
> > > > > If it were evil and sinful we would all be born fully clothed. :)
> >

> > > > It's only sinful if it happens in strip bars or houses of prostitutio=

> n.
> >
> > > So if I walk down the main street of your town I'm doing nothing wrong.
> >
> > No--however, if you are nude when you do it--you would probably be
> > arrested related to nudity laws.
>
> I forgot to mention being nude.
>
> But tell me.
>
> If it isn't sinful except in strip bars and brothels.
>
> Why should I be arrested for being nude in the street?

Good question--mainly because it is against the law but I believe the more
important reason is because it is offensive to most people which is
probably the reason for the laws against being nude in public.

Mitchell Holman

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Mar 22, 2012, 10:43:12 PM3/22/12

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Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-22031...@66-53-214-216.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:

> In article
> <24cd63b8-c289-4694...@gw9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
> Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mar 22, 6:54=A0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> > In article
>> > <dcb2026a-4e6c-453d-a64a-efa440a43...@q11g2000vbu.googlegroups.com>,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >

>> > > So if I walk down the main street of your town I'm doing nothing
>> > > wrong.
>> >
>> > No--however, if you are nude when you do it--you would probably be
>> > arrested related to nudity laws.
>>
>> I forgot to mention being nude.
>>
>> But tell me.
>>
>> If it isn't sinful except in strip bars and brothels.
>>
>> Why should I be arrested for being nude in the street?
>
> Good question--mainly because it is against the law but I believe the
> more important reason is because it is offensive to most people which
> is probably the reason for the laws against being nude in public.

So explain those places were it is LEGAL to be nude in
public, like Spain and Germany and Oregon. Explain all the
nude fun runs and nude bike rides on the West Coast. Then
explain how Spencer Tunick has made a living conducting and
then photographing mass rallies of naked people all over the
world.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/gabb/2011-philly-naked-bike-ride-1d9g

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Naked_Bike_Ride

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Tunick

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_to_Breakers

Jason

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Mar 23, 2012, 2:42:04 AM3/23/12

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In article <XnsA01EDC4F2C6D3...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell

You are correct. It does happen in those countries. It does not mean it's
a great idea. We have nude beaches in California.

Devils Advocaat

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Mar 23, 2012, 3:15:07 AM3/23/12

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On Mar 22, 4:36 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article

> <24cd63b8-c289-4694-a163-5235644a9...@gw9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,

I've done a bit of digging on state laws regarding nudity.

Most laws actually relate to exposing one's genetalia (and with women
the nipples) with intent to arouse oneself, or another, without regard
to the fact that others may be upset of offended.

I've found nothing yet about actually being naked as you walk down the
street being against the law.

So it seems to me, it isn't nudity or being naked which is the
problem. It's whether other people are offended by someone being
naked.

If I'm wrong on my initial examination of said laws I would be happy
to hear from those more familiar with the law.

Alex W.

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Mar 23, 2012, 7:44:00 AM3/23/12

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Actually, it gets boring quite quickly. Nudity is only shocking
and/or offensive because it is so rare in the first place. Spend
a week at a nudist camp, and I guarantee you that by day four you
won't give those exposed body parts a second glance. There would
be nothing fascinating, ogle-worthy or sexually alluring about a
single boobie swinging freely in the breeze.

Shame and eroticism come from covering up, not from undressing.

Mitchell Holman

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Mar 23, 2012, 8:08:38 AM3/23/12

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Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
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So where is the problem?

Jason

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Mar 23, 2012, 5:20:10 PM3/23/12

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In article <XnsA01F48093DCC4...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell

It's a sign the world is becoming more corrupt and evil as time marches on.

Jason

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Mar 23, 2012, 5:22:41 PM3/23/12

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In article <bqznivw41dh7$.q5ppx13bv608$.d...@40tude.net>,

You are correct.

Jason

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Mar 23, 2012, 5:25:22 PM3/23/12

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In article
<b3b76c3f-b9b5-46de...@i2g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>, Devils
Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 22, 4:36=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article
> > <24cd63b8-c289-4694-a163-5235644a9...@gw9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > On Mar 22, 6:54=3DA0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <dcb2026a-4e6c-453d-a64a-efa440a43...@q11g2000vbu.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > On Mar 21, 11:22=3D3DA0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > > > In article

> > > > > > <01d238c1-b9ab-4272-9f4a-5cd68b4d8...@eb6g2000vbb.googlegroups.co=

> m>,
> >
> > > > > > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > On Mar 21, 3:27=3D3D3DA0pm, harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> w=
> rote:

> > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 12:49=3D3D3DA0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > In article

> > > > > > > > > <3a3f4e5f-3f57-4a1a-bda3-1bcdf3bec...@l7g2000vbw.googlegrou=
> ps.c=3D
> > > om>,=3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0Dev=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ils
> >
> > > > > > > > > Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 6:46=3D3D3D3DA0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wr=
> ote:
> > > > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > > > <a23075b2-9c91-47da-abeb-4d53af655...@9g2000vbq.googleg=
> roup=3D
> > > s.co=3D3D
> > > > > m>, =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > Caranx
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > latus <aug.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 20, 4:26=3D3D3D3D3DA0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jas=

> on) wr=3D
> > > ote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > In article

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <6a965ae5-0ece-4d74-84de-9f736303f...@hs8g2000vbb.g=
> oogl=3D
> > > egro=3D3D
> > > > > ups.=3D3D3D

> > > > > > > com>,
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Caranx latus <aug.r...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 20, 2:42=3D3D3D3D3D3DA0am, Ja...@nospam.co=
> m (Jas=3D
> > > on) wr=3D3D
> > > > > ote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article <XnsA01BAFE9A8ABCnomailcomcast...@21=
> 6.19=3D
> > > 6.12=3D3D
> > > > > 1.13=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > 1>, Mi=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > tche=3D3D3D3D3D

> > > > > > > > > > > > ll
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <snip>
> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regardless, there are still millions of evi=
> l pe=3D
> > > ople=3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0in =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > the wo=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > rld.=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > =3D3D3D3DA0If
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you don't believe me, visit Las Vegas and t=
> ake =3D
> > > a lo=3D3D
> > > > > ok a=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > t the =3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > sign=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > s.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =3D3D3D3D3D3DA0 =3D3D3D3D3D3DA0 You clearly h=
> aven't b=3D
> > > een to V=3D3D
> > > > > egas. Th=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > e entertai=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > ners
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are professional, the tourists like tourists =
> ever=3D
> > > ywhe=3D3D
> > > > > re,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the gamblers are just sad. What "evil" are yo=
> u ta=3D
> > > lkin=3D3D
> > > > > g
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some streets have signs advertising totally nud=
> e sh=3D

> > > ows.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Advertising nudity on the street is evil?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > They were signs mounted on large bars.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not seeing the evil part yet.
> >

> > > > > > > > > > > The signs mounted on the outside of the various bars in=
> dica=3D
> > > ted =3D3D

> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > totally nude women were dancing in those "strip" bars.
> >

> > > > > > > > > > Curious isn't it? The ones who believe Adam and Eve were =
> crea=3D

> > > ted
> > > > > > > > > > naked, believe that nudity is evil.
> >

> > > > > > > > > I doubt that Eve done any pole dancing--at least--I hope no=

> t.
> >
> > > > > > > > Tell us, Jason, what is wrong with nudity?
> >
> > > > > > > > Harry K
> >

> > > > > > > If it were evil and sinful we would all be born fully clothed. =
> :)
> >
> > > > > > It's only sinful if it happens in strip bars or houses of prostit=
> utio=3D
> > > n.
> >
> > > > > So if I walk down the main street of your town I'm doing nothing wr=

> ong.
> >
> > > > No--however, if you are nude when you do it--you would probably be
> > > > arrested related to nudity laws.
> >
> > > I forgot to mention being nude.
> >
> > > But tell me.
> >
> > > If it isn't sinful except in strip bars and brothels.
> >
> > > Why should I be arrested for being nude in the street?
> >

> > Good question--mainly because it is against the law but I believe the mor=

> e
> > important reason is because it is offensive to most people which is
> > probably the reason for the laws against being nude in public.
>
> I've done a bit of digging on state laws regarding nudity.
>
> Most laws actually relate to exposing one's genetalia (and with women
> the nipples) with intent to arouse oneself, or another, without regard
> to the fact that others may be upset of offended.
>
> I've found nothing yet about actually being naked as you walk down the
> street being against the law.
>
> So it seems to me, it isn't nudity or being naked which is the
> problem. It's whether other people are offended by someone being
> naked.
>
> If I'm wrong on my initial examination of said laws I would be happy
> to hear from those more familiar with the law.

It's my understanding that most cities have laws against being nude in
public. If I saw a nude man walking down the street, I would call 911.

Mitchell Holman

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Mar 23, 2012, 5:37:00 PM3/23/12

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Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
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If god doesn't want us to be naked why
did he make sure we were born that way?

Caranx latus

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Mar 23, 2012, 7:44:31 PM3/23/12

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On 23/03/2012 5:25 PM, Jason wrote:
> In article
> <b3b76c3f-b9b5-46de...@i2g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>, Devils
> Advocaat<manky...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

>> I've found nothing yet about actually being naked as you walk down the
>> street being against the law.
>>
>> So it seems to me, it isn't nudity or being naked which is the
>> problem. It's whether other people are offended by someone being
>> naked.
>>
>> If I'm wrong on my initial examination of said laws I would be happy
>> to hear from those more familiar with the law.
>
> It's my understanding that most cities have laws against being nude in
> public. If I saw a nude man walking down the street, I would call 911.

9-1-1 is for emergencies. Do you seriously think a nude person walking
down a street is an emergency?

ala

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Mar 23, 2012, 8:10:01 PM3/23/12

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"Caranx latus" <aug....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> 9-1-1 is for emergencies. Do you seriously think a nude person walking
> down a street is an emergency?
>

i would if they were running but not if they were walking

Jason

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Mar 24, 2012, 2:37:10 AM3/24/12

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In article <XnsA01FA866143F0...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell

Because that was part of God's plan.

Jason

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Mar 24, 2012, 2:38:08 AM3/24/12

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In article <8V7br.180357$Qk1.1...@news.usenetserver.com>, Caranx latus

In some cases, yes.

Devils Advocaat

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Mar 24, 2012, 6:48:20 AM3/24/12

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On Mar 23, 9:25 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

[snipped for brevity]

> > I've done a bit of digging on state laws regarding nudity.
>
> > Most laws actually relate to exposing one's genetalia (and with women
> > the nipples) with intent to arouse oneself, or another, without regard
> > to the fact that others may be upset of offended.
>
> > I've found nothing yet about actually being naked as you walk down the
> > street being against the law.
>
> > So it seems to me, it isn't nudity or being naked which is the
> > problem. It's whether other people are offended by someone being
> > naked.
>
> > If I'm wrong on my initial examination of said laws I would be happy
> > to hear from those more familiar with the law.
>
> It's my understanding that most cities have laws against being nude in
> public. If I saw a nude man walking down the street, I would call 911.

I've already stated what I have found.

And all you offer is your "understanding".

Care to cite a law that says it is a crime to walk naked down a street?

David Fritzinger

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Mar 24, 2012, 7:04:30 AM3/24/12

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In article <Jason-23031...@66-53-212-1.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

You've got to explain this one...

Mitchell Holman

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Mar 24, 2012, 8:25:37 AM3/24/12

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Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-23031...@66-53-212-1.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:

If God wanted us to be ashamed of our
unclad bodies he would have said so in his
Commandments.

He didn't.

Ergo.................

Tom McDonald

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Mar 24, 2012, 9:07:40 AM3/24/12

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On 3/24/2012 6:04 AM, David Fritzinger wrote:
> In article<Jason-23031...@66-53-212-1.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
>> In article<8V7br.180357$Qk1.1...@news.usenetserver.com>, Caranx latus
>> <aug....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 23/03/2012 5:25 PM, Jason wrote:

<snip>

>>>> It's my understanding that most cities have laws against being nude in
>>>> public. If I saw a nude man walking down the street, I would call 911.
>>>
>>> 9-1-1 is for emergencies. Do you seriously think a nude person walking
>>> down a street is an emergency?
>>
>> In some cases, yes.
>
> You've got to explain this one...

Well, one possibility, though with an extra twist, is the guy who did
"Kony 2012". He was walking (among other things) nude in his
neighborhood. The 'other things' he was doing included prancing around,
yelling and singing, and appearing to be nuts. (In addition to his nuts
appearing.)

The cops were called, and it was an emergency. But not so much because
he was naked, but because he appeared to be nuts. (In addition to
his...oh, I wrote that already. Sorry.)

So it was an emergency partly because of his funny walk. I suspect I
know the department to which he was then directed. :-)

Caranx latus

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Mar 24, 2012, 10:12:28 AM3/24/12

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Go on...

harry k

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Mar 24, 2012, 12:31:44 PM3/24/12

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On Mar 23, 2:25 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article

> <b3b76c3f-b9b5-46de-bf0e-e613060dc...@i2g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>, Devils

Which has zippo to do with "sin". Once again, WHY is it a sin?

Harry K

harry k

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Mar 24, 2012, 12:32:41 PM3/24/12

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On Mar 23, 5:10 pm, "ala" <alackr...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Caranx latus" <aug.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Well, there is the situation such as it being Rush Limaugh or the
like.

Harry K

Jason

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Mar 25, 2012, 4:00:27 AM3/25/12

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In article
<a92cf6f7-65fc-4730...@d17g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:

No

Why not try walking down the street naked to see how long it takes for the
cops to arrest you.

Jason

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Mar 25, 2012, 4:01:16 AM3/25/12

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In article
<23873ff4-8464-495c...@px4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, harry
k <turnk...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 23, 2:25=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article

> > <b3b76c3f-b9b5-46de-bf0e-e613060dc...@i2g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>, Devil=
> s
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > On Mar 22, 4:36=3DA0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <24cd63b8-c289-4694-a163-5235644a9...@gw9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > On Mar 22, 6:54=3D3DA0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > > > In article

> > > > > > <dcb2026a-4e6c-453d-a64a-efa440a43...@q11g2000vbu.googlegroups.co=

> m>,
> >
> > > > > > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > On Mar 21, 11:22=3D3D3DA0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > > > > > In article

> > > > > > > > <01d238c1-b9ab-4272-9f4a-5cd68b4d8...@eb6g2000vbb.googlegroup=
> s.co=3D

> > > m>,
> >
> > > > > > > > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 3:27=3D3D3D3DA0pm, harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.=
> com> w=3D
> > > rote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 12:49=3D3D3D3DA0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) w=
> rote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > > > <3a3f4e5f-3f57-4a1a-bda3-1bcdf3bec...@l7g2000vbw.google=
> grou=3D
> > > ps.c=3D3D
> > > > > om>,=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > =3D3DA0Dev=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ils
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 6:46=3D3D3D3D3DA0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jas=

> on) wr=3D
> > > ote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > In article

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <a23075b2-9c91-47da-abeb-4d53af655...@9g2000vbq.goo=
> gleg=3D
> > > roup=3D3D
> > > > > s.co=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > m>, =3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > Caranx
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > latus <aug.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 20, 4:26=3D3D3D3D3D3DA0pm, Ja...@nospam.co=

> m (Jas=3D
> > > on) wr=3D3D
> > > > > ote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <6a965ae5-0ece-4d74-84de-9f736303f...@hs8g2000v=
> bb.g=3D
> > > oogl=3D3D
> > > > > egro=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ups.=3D3D3D3D

> > > > > > > > > com>,
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Caranx latus <aug.r...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 20, 2:42=3D3D3D3D3D3D3DA0am, Ja...@nos=
> pam.co=3D
> > > m (Jas=3D3D
> > > > > on) wr=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article <XnsA01BAFE9A8ABCnomailcomcast..=
> .@21=3D
> > > 6.19=3D3D
> > > > > 6.12=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > 1.13=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > 1>, Mi=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > tche=3D3D3D3D3D3D

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ll
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <snip>
> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regardless, there are still millions of=
> evi=3D
> > > l pe=3D3D
> > > > > ople=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > =3D3DA0in =3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > the wo=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > rld.=3D3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > =3D3D3D3D3DA0If
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you don't believe me, visit Las Vegas a=
> nd t=3D
> > > ake =3D3D
> > > > > a lo=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ok a=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > t the =3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > sign=3D3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > s.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =3D3D3D3D3D3D3DA0 =3D3D3D3D3D3D3DA0 You c=
> learly h=3D
> > > aven't b=3D3D
> > > > > een to V=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > egas. Th=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > e entertai=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > ners
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are professional, the tourists like touri=
> sts =3D
> > > ever=3D3D
> > > > > ywhe=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > re,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the gamblers are just sad. What "evil" ar=
> e yo=3D
> > > u ta=3D3D
> > > > > lkin=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > g
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some streets have signs advertising totally=
> nud=3D
> > > e sh=3D3D

> > > > > ows.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Advertising nudity on the street is evil?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They were signs mounted on large bars.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not seeing the evil part yet.
> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The signs mounted on the outside of the various bar=
> s in=3D
> > > dica=3D3D
> > > > > ted =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > totally nude women were dancing in those "strip" ba=
> rs.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Curious isn't it? The ones who believe Adam and Eve w=
> ere =3D
> > > crea=3D3D

> > > > > ted
> > > > > > > > > > > > naked, believe that nudity is evil.
> >

> > > > > > > > > > > I doubt that Eve done any pole dancing--at least--I hop=
> e no=3D

> > > t.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Tell us, Jason, what is wrong with nudity?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Harry K
> >

> > > > > > > > > If it were evil and sinful we would all be born fully cloth=
> ed. =3D
> > > :)
> >
> > > > > > > > It's only sinful if it happens in strip bars or houses of pro=
> stit=3D
> > > utio=3D3D
> > > > > n.
> >
> > > > > > > So if I walk down the main street of your town I'm doing nothin=
> g wr=3D
> > > ong.
> >
> > > > > > No--however, if you are nude when you do it--you would probably b=

> e
> > > > > > arrested related to nudity laws.
> >
> > > > > I forgot to mention being nude.
> >
> > > > > But tell me.
> >
> > > > > If it isn't sinful except in strip bars and brothels.
> >
> > > > > Why should I be arrested for being nude in the street?
> >

> > > > Good question--mainly because it is against the law but I believe the=
> mor=3D

> > > e
> > > > important reason is because it is offensive to most people which is
> > > > probably the reason for the laws against being nude in public.
> >
> > > I've done a bit of digging on state laws regarding nudity.
> >
> > > Most laws actually relate to exposing one's genetalia (and with women
> > > the nipples) with intent to arouse oneself, or another, without regard
> > > to the fact that others may be upset of offended.
> >
> > > I've found nothing yet about actually being naked as you walk down the
> > > street being against the law.
> >
> > > So it seems to me, it isn't nudity or being naked which is the
> > > problem. It's whether other people are offended by someone being
> > > naked.
> >
> > > If I'm wrong on my initial examination of said laws I would be happy
> > > to hear from those more familiar with the law.
> >
> > It's my understanding that most cities have laws against being nude in
> > public. If I saw a nude man walking down the street, I would call 911.
>
> Which has zippo to do with "sin". Once again, WHY is it a sin?
>
>
> Harry K

We are suppose to comply with the laws unless they complict with the Bible.

Jason

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Mar 25, 2012, 4:02:19 AM3/25/12

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In article <XnsA0204AEB0B0E3...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell

Interesting point. Tomorrow--get naked and walk down a city street to see
what happens.

Jason

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Mar 25, 2012, 4:03:21 AM3/25/12

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In article <dfritzin-D8053D...@news.eternal-september.org>,

It could indicate that he has taken some illegal drugs so is danger of
walking in front of vehicles.

Jason

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Mar 25, 2012, 4:04:10 AM3/25/12

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In article <vGjbr.809$FA4...@newsfe03.iad>, Tom McDonald

Yes, I saw the video on a cable channel.

Jason

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Mar 25, 2012, 4:04:58 AM3/25/12

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In article <cDkbr.80654$qa3....@news.usenetserver.com>, Caranx latus

He may be high on drugs and may walk in front of vehicles.

Devils Advocaat

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Mar 25, 2012, 4:10:56 AM3/25/12

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On Mar 25, 9:00 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article

> <a92cf6f7-65fc-4730-875e-51e5548f5...@d17g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 23, 9:25=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > [snipped for brevity]
>
> > > > I've done a bit of digging on state laws regarding nudity.
>
> > > > Most laws actually relate to exposing one's genetalia (and with women
> > > > the nipples) with intent to arouse oneself, or another, without regard
> > > > to the fact that others may be upset of offended.
>
> > > > I've found nothing yet about actually being naked as you walk down the
> > > > street being against the law.
>
> > > > So it seems to me, it isn't nudity or being naked which is the
> > > > problem. It's whether other people are offended by someone being
> > > > naked.
>
> > > > If I'm wrong on my initial examination of said laws I would be happy
> > > > to hear from those more familiar with the law.
>
> > > It's my understanding that most cities have laws against being nude in
> > > public. If I saw a nude man walking down the street, I would call 911.
>
> > I've already stated what I have found.
>
> > And all you offer is your "understanding".
>
> > Care to cite a law that says it is a crime to walk naked down a street?
>
> No

So you don't know of any law that says it is a crime to walk naked
down a street.

>
> Why not try walking down the street naked to see how long it takes for the
> cops to arrest you.

I don't live in your country, in the UK there is no law against being
nude in public

Simple nudity is not illegal.

However,using nudity to "harass, alarm or distress" others is an
offence against the Public Order Act of 1986.

Jason

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Mar 25, 2012, 4:45:17 AM3/25/12

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In article
<9b7d04d9-9406-43e3...@h5g2000vbx.googlegroups.com>, Devils
Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 25, 9:00=A0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article
> > <a92cf6f7-65fc-4730-875e-51e5548f5...@d17g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > On Mar 23, 9:25=3DA0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > [snipped for brevity]
> >
> > > > > I've done a bit of digging on state laws regarding nudity.
> >

> > > > > Most laws actually relate to exposing one's genetalia (and with wom=
> en
> > > > > the nipples) with intent to arouse oneself, or another, without reg=

> ard
> > > > > to the fact that others may be upset of offended.
> >

> > > > > I've found nothing yet about actually being naked as you walk down =

> the
> > > > > street being against the law.
> >
> > > > > So it seems to me, it isn't nudity or being naked which is the
> > > > > problem. It's whether other people are offended by someone being
> > > > > naked.
> >

> > > > > If I'm wrong on my initial examination of said laws I would be happ=

> y
> > > > > to hear from those more familiar with the law.
> >

> > > > It's my understanding that most cities have laws against being nude i=
> n
> > > > public. If I saw a nude man walking down the street, I would call 911=

> .
> >
> > > I've already stated what I have found.
> >
> > > And all you offer is your "understanding".
> >
> > > Care to cite a law that says it is a crime to walk naked down a street?
> >
> > No
>
> So you don't know of any law that says it is a crime to walk naked
> down a street.
> >

> > Why not try walking down the street naked to see how long it takes for th=

> e
> > cops to arrest you.
>
> I don't live in your country, in the UK there is no law against being
> nude in public
>
> Simple nudity is not illegal.
>
> However,using nudity to "harass, alarm or distress" others is an
> offence against the Public Order Act of 1986.

Thanks for explaining where you live. If you walked down the street NAKED
in most cities America--you would be arrested. There are nude beaches
where it would be OK to be nude. Google "Pirate's Cove, California". It's
a nude beach. It's also OK to be nude in nudest colonies.

Devils Advocaat

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Mar 25, 2012, 4:56:19 AM3/25/12

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On Mar 25, 9:45 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article

> <9b7d04d9-9406-43e3-8c86-3ce19a524...@h5g2000vbx.googlegroups.com>, Devils

And yet you cannot come up with a single law in which it states that
in your country it is a crime to walk naked down the street.

David Fritzinger

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Mar 25, 2012, 6:58:03 AM3/25/12

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In article
<Jason-25031...@66-53-212-206.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Again, WOW! Of course, a space alien could have seen him, and liked his
clothes so much that s/he had to have them, so his clothes were zapped
off of him.

Mitchell Holman

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Mar 25, 2012, 9:41:24 AM3/25/12

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Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-25031...@66-53-212-206.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:

> In article
> <23873ff4-8464-495c...@px4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> harry k <turnk...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mar 23, 2:25=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> > In article
>> > <b3b76c3f-b9b5-46de-bf0e-e613060dc...@i2g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
>> > Devil=
>> s
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >

>> > > I've done a bit of digging on state laws regarding nudity.
>> >
>> > > Most laws actually relate to exposing one's genetalia (and with
>> > > women the nipples) with intent to arouse oneself, or another,
>> > > without regard to the fact that others may be upset of offended.
>> >
>> > > I've found nothing yet about actually being naked as you walk
>> > > down the street being against the law.
>> >
>> > > So it seems to me, it isn't nudity or being naked which is the
>> > > problem. It's whether other people are offended by someone being
>> > > naked.
>> >
>> > > If I'm wrong on my initial examination of said laws I would be
>> > > happy to hear from those more familiar with the law.
>> >
>> > It's my understanding that most cities have laws against being nude
>> > in public. If I saw a nude man walking down the street, I would
>> > call 911.
>>
>> Which has zippo to do with "sin". Once again, WHY is it a sin?
>>
>>
>> Harry K
>
> We are suppose to comply with the laws unless they complict with the
> Bible.
>

1) What laws "complict" with the Bible?

2) If an activity is not banned by the Bible
or even civil laws what makes it "sinful"?

Maine Voters Give Women Ok To Mow While Topless
November 5, 1998

NEWPORT, Maine - One woman wanted to mow her lawn
topless. Her neighbor doesn't like it. Solution:
Let the voters decide. With a vote Tuesday of 775-283,
Newport residents nixed plans for an ordinance to
punish women for displaying their breasts in public.
The law in Maine prohibits the display of genitalia or
the committing of sexual acts in public. But Town Manager
Kenneth Knight noted that breasts are not genitalia,
and lawn mowing not a sexual act. No crime here, he
reasoned.
http://tinyurl.com/7exftkl

harry k

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Mar 25, 2012, 10:34:16 AM3/25/12

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On Mar 25, 1:00 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article

> <a92cf6f7-65fc-4730-875e-51e5548f5...@d17g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,

Violation of a regulation does not make it sinful. You keep dancing
around it but here is anothe chance for you to eithe redeem yourself
or look like the fool you are again.

Why is walking down the street naked sinful?

Harry K

harry k

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Mar 25, 2012, 10:36:30 AM3/25/12

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On Mar 25, 1:01 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article

> <23873ff4-8464-495c-ab51-854d885c8...@px4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, harry

How is noncompliance with a law, e.g., speeding a sin?

Harry K

harry k

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Mar 25, 2012, 10:37:41 AM3/25/12

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On Mar 25, 1:01 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article

> <23873ff4-8464-495c-ab51-854d885c8...@px4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, harry

BTW. 'Speeding" as in my example, walking nude on the street as in
yours IS in the bible.

Try reading that collection of myths and you will find it.

Harry K

Free Lunch

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Mar 25, 2012, 4:35:49 PM3/25/12

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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 08:41:24 -0500, in alt.talk.creationism
Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote in
<XnsA02157C4D7496...@216.196.121.131>:

We've had church ladies like Jason get all atwitter about women nursing
their children in public, even if nothing is seen. Clearly these people
hate what they say God created.

Devils Advocaat

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Mar 26, 2012, 2:15:13 AM3/26/12

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On Mar 25, 9:01 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article

> <23873ff4-8464-495c-ab51-854d885c8...@px4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, harry

So you reckon the bible with respect to what you should and shouldn't
do is a better guide than your state and federal laws do you? The
bible contradicts itself so many times on what should and shouldn't be
done it's ridiculous.

Jason

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Mar 26, 2012, 2:58:57 AM3/26/12

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In article
<d092068f-0c2f-4019...@a5g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>, Devils
Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 25, 9:01=A0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article

> > <23873ff4-8464-495c-ab51-854d885c8...@px4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, harr=
> y
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > On Mar 23, 2:25=3DA0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > In article

> > > > <b3b76c3f-b9b5-46de-bf0e-e613060dc...@i2g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>, D=
> evil=3D
> > > s
> >
> > > > Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > On Mar 22, 4:36=3D3DA0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > > > In article

> > > > > > <24cd63b8-c289-4694-a163-5235644a9...@gw9g2000vbb.googlegroups.co=

> m>,
> >
> > > > > > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > On Mar 22, 6:54=3D3D3DA0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > > > > > In article

> > > > > > > > <dcb2026a-4e6c-453d-a64a-efa440a43...@q11g2000vbu.googlegroup=

> s.co=3D
> > > m>,
> >
> > > > > > > > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 11:22=3D3D3D3DA0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wro=
> te:
> > > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > > <01d238c1-b9ab-4272-9f4a-5cd68b4d8...@eb6g2000vbb.googleg=
> roup=3D
> > > s.co=3D3D

> > > > > m>,
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 3:27=3D3D3D3D3DA0pm, harry k <turnkey4...@ho=
> tmail.=3D
> > > com> w=3D3D
> > > > > rote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 12:49=3D3D3D3D3DA0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Ja=
> son) w=3D
> > > rote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <3a3f4e5f-3f57-4a1a-bda3-1bcdf3bec...@l7g2000vbw.go=
> ogle=3D
> > > grou=3D3D
> > > > > ps.c=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > om>,=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > =3D3D3DA0Dev=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > ils
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 6:46=3D3D3D3D3D3DA0am, Ja...@nospam.co=

> m (Jas=3D
> > > on) wr=3D3D
> > > > > ote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <a23075b2-9c91-47da-abeb-4d53af655...@9g2000vbq=
> .goo=3D
> > > gleg=3D3D
> > > > > roup=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > s.co=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > m>, =3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > Caranx
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > latus <aug.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 20, 4:26=3D3D3D3D3D3D3DA0pm, Ja...@nos=

> pam.co=3D
> > > m (Jas=3D3D
> > > > > on) wr=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <6a965ae5-0ece-4d74-84de-9f736303f...@hs8g2=
> 000v=3D
> > > bb.g=3D3D
> > > > > oogl=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > egro=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ups.=3D3D3D3D3D

> > > > > > > > > > > com>,
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Caranx latus <aug.r...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 20, 2:42=3D3D3D3D3D3D3D3DA0am, Ja.=
> ..@nos=3D
> > > pam.co=3D3D
> > > > > m (Jas=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > on) wr=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article <XnsA01BAFE9A8ABCnomailcomca=
> st..=3D
> > > .@21=3D3D
> > > > > 6.19=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > 6.12=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > 1.13=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > 1>, Mi=3D3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tche=3D3D3D3D3D3D3D

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ll
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <snip>
> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regardless, there are still million=
> s of=3D
> > > =A0evi=3D3D
> > > > > l pe=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ople=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > =3D3D3DA0in =3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > the wo=3D3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > rld.=3D3D3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =3D3D3D3D3D3DA0If
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you don't believe me, visit Las Veg=
> as a=3D
> > > nd t=3D3D
> > > > > ake =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > a lo=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ok a=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > t the =3D3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sign=3D3D3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > s.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =3D3D3D3D3D3D3D3DA0 =3D3D3D3D3D3D3D3D=
> A0 You c=3D
> > > learly h=3D3D
> > > > > aven't b=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > een to V=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > egas. Th=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > e entertai=3D3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ners
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are professional, the tourists like t=
> ouri=3D
> > > sts =3D3D
> > > > > ever=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ywhe=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > re,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the gamblers are just sad. What "evil=
> " ar=3D
> > > e yo=3D3D
> > > > > u ta=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > lkin=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > g
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some streets have signs advertising tot=
> ally=3D
> > > =A0nud=3D3D
> > > > > e sh=3D3D3D

> > > > > > > ows.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Advertising nudity on the street is evil?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They were signs mounted on large bars.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not seeing the evil part yet.
> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The signs mounted on the outside of the various=
> bar=3D
> > > s in=3D3D
> > > > > dica=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ted =3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > totally nude women were dancing in those "strip=
> " ba=3D
> > > rs.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Curious isn't it? The ones who believe Adam and E=
> ve w=3D
> > > ere =3D3D
> > > > > crea=3D3D3D

> > > > > > > ted
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > naked, believe that nudity is evil.
> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I doubt that Eve done any pole dancing--at least--I=
> hop=3D
> > > e no=3D3D

> > > > > t.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Tell us, Jason, what is wrong with nudity?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Harry K
> >

> > > > > > > > > > > If it were evil and sinful we would all be born fully c=
> loth=3D
> > > ed. =3D3D
> > > > > :)
> >
> > > > > > > > > > It's only sinful if it happens in strip bars or houses of=
> pro=3D
> > > stit=3D3D
> > > > > utio=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > n.
> >
> > > > > > > > > So if I walk down the main street of your town I'm doing no=
> thin=3D
> > > g wr=3D3D
> > > > > ong.
> >
> > > > > > > > No--however, if you are nude when you do it--you would probab=
> ly b=3D

> > > e
> > > > > > > > arrested related to nudity laws.
> >
> > > > > > > I forgot to mention being nude.
> >
> > > > > > > But tell me.
> >
> > > > > > > If it isn't sinful except in strip bars and brothels.
> >
> > > > > > > Why should I be arrested for being nude in the street?
> >

> > > > > > Good question--mainly because it is against the law but I believe=
> the=3D
> > > =A0mor=3D3D
> > > > > e
> > > > > > important reason is because it is offensive to most people which =

> is
> > > > > > probably the reason for the laws against being nude in public.
> >
> > > > > I've done a bit of digging on state laws regarding nudity.
> >

> > > > > Most laws actually relate to exposing one's genetalia (and with wom=
> en
> > > > > the nipples) with intent to arouse oneself, or another, without reg=

> ard
> > > > > to the fact that others may be upset of offended.
> >

> > > > > I've found nothing yet about actually being naked as you walk down =

> the
> > > > > street being against the law.
> >
> > > > > So it seems to me, it isn't nudity or being naked which is the
> > > > > problem. It's whether other people are offended by someone being
> > > > > naked.
> >

> > > > > If I'm wrong on my initial examination of said laws I would be happ=

> y
> > > > > to hear from those more familiar with the law.
> >

> > > > It's my understanding that most cities have laws against being nude i=
> n
> > > > public. If I saw a nude man walking down the street, I would call 911=
> .
> >
> > > Which has zippo to do with "sin". =A0Once again, WHY is it a sin?
> >
> > > Harry K
> >
> > We are suppose to comply with the laws unless they complict with the Bibl=

> e.
>
> So you reckon the bible with respect to what you should and shouldn't
> do is a better guide than your state and federal laws do you? The
> bible contradicts itself so many times on what should and shouldn't be
> done it's ridiculous.

I have not had any problems following the laws. However, nurses that are
forced to help doctors do have a conflict with the rules. If doctors are
eventually forced to do abortions--lots of doctors will also have to start
filing law suits. I googled "Christian nurses that have been forced to do
abortions" and got thousands of hits. It's a major problem. Yes, I did use
quote marks.

Jason

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Mar 26, 2012, 2:59:37 AM3/26/12

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In article
<32987750-d11d-4418...@z3g2000pbn.googlegroups.com>, harry
k <turnk...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 25, 1:01=A0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article

> > <23873ff4-8464-495c-ab51-854d885c8...@px4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, harr=
> y
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > On Mar 23, 2:25=3DA0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > In article

> > > > <b3b76c3f-b9b5-46de-bf0e-e613060dc...@i2g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>, D=
> evil=3D
> > > s
> >
> > > > Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > On Mar 22, 4:36=3D3DA0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > > > In article

> > > > > > <24cd63b8-c289-4694-a163-5235644a9...@gw9g2000vbb.googlegroups.co=

> m>,
> >
> > > > > > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > On Mar 22, 6:54=3D3D3DA0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > > > > > In article

> > > > > > > > <dcb2026a-4e6c-453d-a64a-efa440a43...@q11g2000vbu.googlegroup=

> s.co=3D
> > > m>,
> >
> > > > > > > > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 11:22=3D3D3D3DA0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wro=
> te:
> > > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > > <01d238c1-b9ab-4272-9f4a-5cd68b4d8...@eb6g2000vbb.googleg=
> roup=3D
> > > s.co=3D3D

> > > > > m>,
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 3:27=3D3D3D3D3DA0pm, harry k <turnkey4...@ho=
> tmail.=3D
> > > com> w=3D3D

> > > > > rote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 12:49=3D3D3D3D3DA0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Ja=
> son) w=3D
> > > rote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <3a3f4e5f-3f57-4a1a-bda3-1bcdf3bec...@l7g2000vbw.go=
> ogle=3D
> > > grou=3D3D
> > > > > ps.c=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > om>,=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > =3D3D3DA0Dev=3D3D3D3D3D

> > > > > > > > > > > ils
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 6:46=3D3D3D3D3D3DA0am, Ja...@nospam.co=

> m (Jas=3D
> > > on) wr=3D3D
> > > > > ote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <a23075b2-9c91-47da-abeb-4d53af655...@9g2000vbq=
> .goo=3D
> > > gleg=3D3D
> > > > > roup=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > s.co=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > m>, =3D3D3D3D3D

> > > > > > > > > > > Caranx
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > latus <aug.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 20, 4:26=3D3D3D3D3D3D3DA0pm, Ja...@nos=

> pam.co=3D
> > > m (Jas=3D3D
> > > > > on) wr=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <6a965ae5-0ece-4d74-84de-9f736303f...@hs8g2=
> 000v=3D
> > > bb.g=3D3D
> > > > > oogl=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > egro=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ups.=3D3D3D3D3D

> > > > > > > > > > > com>,
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Caranx latus <aug.r...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 20, 2:42=3D3D3D3D3D3D3D3DA0am, Ja.=
> ..@nos=3D
> > > pam.co=3D3D
> > > > > m (Jas=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > on) wr=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article <XnsA01BAFE9A8ABCnomailcomca=
> st..=3D
> > > .@21=3D3D
> > > > > 6.19=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > 6.12=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > 1.13=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > 1>, Mi=3D3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tche=3D3D3D3D3D3D3D

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ll
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <snip>
> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ners

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are professional, the tourists like t=
> ouri=3D
> > > sts =3D3D
> > > > > ever=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ywhe=3D3D3D3D

> > > > > > > > > re,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the gamblers are just sad. What "evil=
> " ar=3D
> > > e yo=3D3D
> > > > > u ta=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > lkin=3D3D3D3D

> > > > > > > > > g
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about?
> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some streets have signs advertising tot=
> ally=3D
> > > =A0nud=3D3D
> > > > > e sh=3D3D3D

> > > > > > > ows.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Advertising nudity on the street is evil?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They were signs mounted on large bars.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not seeing the evil part yet.
> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The signs mounted on the outside of the various=
> bar=3D
> > > s in=3D3D
> > > > > dica=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ted =3D3D3D3D

> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > totally nude women were dancing in those "strip=
> " ba=3D
> > > rs.
> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Curious isn't it? The ones who believe Adam and E=
> ve w=3D
> > > ere =3D3D
> > > > > crea=3D3D3D