> >IMO
> >-aquarboreal Hominoidea originated in coastal forests of the archipelagoes between India & Eurasia c 40?30 Ma (plate tectonics),
kudu runner:
> Where's the evidence?
> Oldest known hominoids, Rukwapithecus and Kamoyapithecus, are from
> inland sites in Africa ~25 Ma.
So?? My little little boy, when are you finally growing up??
Can't you read & think a *little* bit??
Why do you believe that aquarboreal apes could not have followed the rivers???
Think a bit: earliest hominoids = before the great/lesser ape split: hylobatids = SE.Asia, pongids = SE.Asia.
You're ridiculously afrocentric.
Never heard of retroviral DNA?? e.g. Yohn cs 2005 PLoS Biol 3:1-11: Pliocene Homo NOT in Africa!
And never heard of parallel evolution??
And haven't you even *read* what I wrote??:
IMO
-aquarboreal Hominoidea originated in coastal forests of the archipelagoes between India & Eurasia c 40?30 Ma (plate tectonics),
-aquarboreal hominids s.l. (vs. pongids) lived in Tethys Sea coastal forests c 30-6 Ma,
-aquarboreal hominids s.s. (HPG) lived in Red Sea coastal forests c 10-5 Ma,
-Pleistocene shallow-diving Homo (no "ape" any more) came from the Asian Ind.Ocean coasts: Java, Flores...
We underwent 2 drastic anatomical changes vs "monkeys":
1) apes: wading-climbing hominoids after c 30 Ma: bipedalism, very broad sternum & thorax, tail loss, larger body size, centrally-placed spine, arm-hanging...
2) humans: archaic Homo after c 2 Ma: very large brain (x3), pachyosteosclerosis, platycephaly, platymeria... = frequent diving.
Perhaps (1) might have been even more profound than (2), but partly?largely disappeared (partly in parallel, e.g.->knuckle-walking P//G) in (early?-)Pleistocene apes.
Island animals (Indian archipelagoes c 30 Ma) are often anatomically very special (1),
but I don't know if this was also the case in archaic Homo (2), e.g. Flores??
"Out of Africa" is *nonsense* IMO: perhaps late-Pleistocene <80 ka? when we had evolved the enzymes for MC- ->LC-PUFAs?
Big brains = long-chain-poly-unsaturated fatty acids (DHA etc.): only after c 80 ka, we didn't need any more aquatic foods!
Only *incredible* imbeciles still believe they descend from antelope runners.
Stop wasting my time: use your brain(??) a bit.