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littor...@gmail.com
Sep 15, 2021, 2:36:02 PM9/15/21
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All so-called"scientific" PA papers with the word "hominin" should be rejected, or "hominin" should be replaced by "hominind" (sensu Homo, Pan, Gorilla + fossil relatives):
the word "hominin" presupposes everything that is "bipedal", but most likely all hominids (possibly all hominoids - hylobatids are still predom."upright") had "bipedal" (upright, vertical) ancestors, not for running over savannas (how ridiculous can you be?), but simply for wading upright & climbing arms overhead.
Apes differ drastically from monkeys:
- body weight often x 10 or more
- spine centrally in the body, not dorsally
- very broad build: sternum, thorax, pelvis
- limbs aside of the body, not ventrally
- tail loss (incorporated into pelvic bottom)
Monkeys are typical arboreal mammals.
Apes became different: 30-20 Ma:
google "aquarboreal".
the word "hominin" presupposes everything that is "bipedal", but most likely all hominids (possibly all hominoids - hylobatids are still predom."upright") had "bipedal" (upright, vertical) ancestors, not for running over savannas (how ridiculous can you be?), but simply for wading upright & climbing arms overhead.
Apes differ drastically from monkeys:
- body weight often x 10 or more
- spine centrally in the body, not dorsally
- very broad build: sternum, thorax, pelvis
- limbs aside of the body, not ventrally
- tail loss (incorporated into pelvic bottom)
Monkeys are typical arboreal mammals.
Apes became different: 30-20 Ma:
google "aquarboreal".
DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves
Sep 15, 2021, 10:58:04 PM9/15/21
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Pandora
Sep 16, 2021, 8:53:48 AM9/16/21
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http://eskeletons.org/sites/eskeletons.org/files//image/orientation/gibbon_skull_mandible_Lateral_0.jpg
http://eskeletons.org/sites/eskeletons.org/files//image/orientation/chimpanzee_skull_mandible_Lateral_0.jpg
http://eskeletons.org/sites/eskeletons.org/files//image/orientation/human_skull_mandible_Lateral_1.jpg
See also:
<https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-human-chin-revisited%3A-what-is-it-and-who-has-it-Schwartz-Tattersall/66635def87ed050f2a5f9901f2b3831e94765c3c>
littor...@gmail.com
Sep 16, 2021, 9:20:18 AM9/16/21
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Op donderdag 16 september 2021 om 04:58:04 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:
Yes, my litle boy, gibbons are "hominin".
DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves
Sep 16, 2021, 9:47:13 AM9/16/21
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Do your photos include data: age, sex, locale?
DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves
Sep 16, 2021, 9:49:32 AM9/16/21
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On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 8:53:48 AM UTC-4, Pandora wrote:
DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves
Sep 16, 2021, 9:50:41 AM9/16/21
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littor...@gmail.com
Sep 16, 2021, 11:56:27 AM9/16/21
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Op donderdag 16 september 2021 om 15:50:41 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:
> > > > All so-called"scientific" PA papers with the word "hominin" should be rejected, or "hominin" should be replaced by "hominind" (sensu Homo, Pan, Gorilla + fossil relatives): the word "hominin" presupposes everything that is "bipedal", but most likely all hominids (possibly all hominoids - hylobatids are still predom."upright") had "bipedal" (upright, vertical) ancestors, not for running over savannas (how ridiculous can you be?), but simply for wading upright & climbing arms overhead.
> > > > Apes differ drastically from monkeys:
> > > > - body weight often x 10 or more
> > > > - spine centrally in the body, not dorsally
> > > > - very broad build: sternum, thorax, pelvis
> > > > - limbs aside of the body, not ventrally
> > > > - tail loss (incorporated into pelvic bottom)
> > > > Monkeys are typical arboreal mammals. Apes became different: 30-20 Ma: google "aquarboreal".
> > > Gibbons and humans have chins.
> > Yes, my litle boy, gibbons are "hominin".
> Wading gibbons??
???
"Hominins" don't wade, =y little little boy.
> > > > All so-called"scientific" PA papers with the word "hominin" should be rejected, or "hominin" should be replaced by "hominind" (sensu Homo, Pan, Gorilla + fossil relatives): the word "hominin" presupposes everything that is "bipedal", but most likely all hominids (possibly all hominoids - hylobatids are still predom."upright") had "bipedal" (upright, vertical) ancestors, not for running over savannas (how ridiculous can you be?), but simply for wading upright & climbing arms overhead.
> > > > Apes differ drastically from monkeys:
> > > > - body weight often x 10 or more
> > > > - spine centrally in the body, not dorsally
> > > > - very broad build: sternum, thorax, pelvis
> > > > - limbs aside of the body, not ventrally
> > > > - tail loss (incorporated into pelvic bottom)
> > > > Monkeys are typical arboreal mammals. Apes became different: 30-20 Ma: google "aquarboreal".
> > > Gibbons and humans have chins.
> > Yes, my litle boy, gibbons are "hominin".
> Wading gibbons??
"Hominins" don't wade, =y little little boy.
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