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Vortex

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Mar 4, 2002, 8:59:26 AM3/4/02
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We are in the process of worming our chickens but I have read from the vet
in 'Country Smallholding' that you should not eat the eggs while the hens
are being treated (with Flubenvet) but on the pack it says 'for chickens
producing eggs for human consumption the with holding period for eggs is
nil'.

What do you lot do ? are the eggs safe to eat or not ?

Thanks
Peny


Jill

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Mar 4, 2002, 10:06:27 AM3/4/02
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"Vortex" <da...@nospamplease.vortex.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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the standard withdrawal is 7 days for most things
It would probably be safe for you - we found when we first had goats that
the vets had told us 7 days when in fact what we were using was 21 days
as the vet said - you two should not need worming for a bit!!!:~)
just don't sell eggs
Jill

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Krys Francis

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Mar 5, 2002, 6:30:01 AM3/5/02
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In message <a5vum6$4kp$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Vortex
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Hi,
If my memory serves me correctly, the reason for this is that at the
dose indicated on the packet, tape worms (I think it was) will not be
killed. At a higher dosage these worms can also be killed but the eggs
are not supposed to be eaten. I think that we have eaten them.

Krys

Unicorn

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Mar 5, 2002, 9:01:41 AM3/5/02
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While many vet products have a withholding period for human consumption,
something that is far stricter in the EU than the rest of the world, the
majority of these withholding periods are to give the chemicals time to
reduce to Zero in the tissue/milk/egg etc.

The real issue with these chemicals is if you are prepared to ingest them
then there is no reason to withhold the produce from home use. There is a
need for common sense here as well as relying on the labels. If you worm
your fowls for round worm and you worm your children for the same bug with
essentially the same chemical what is the problem with eating a small dose
in your eggs, it would taste heaps better than the wormers I was fed as a
child.

However is you are treating your birds with antibiotics then I would suggest
no consumption for as long as possible.

Antibiotics are far more dangerous than a little insecticide. The last lot
of antibiotics I got from my vet were to be used only on Roosters and I had
to promise him that the birds dosed would not be consumed after death but
burned or buried. If a Hen did get accidentally dosed that the eggs were
never to be consumed - ever.

Matt

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Krys Francis

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Mar 5, 2002, 9:48:52 AM3/5/02
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>Antibiotics are far more dangerous than a little insecticide. The last lot
>of antibiotics I got from my vet were to be used only on Roosters and I had
>to promise him that the birds dosed would not be consumed after death but
>burned or buried. If a Hen did get accidentally dosed that the eggs were
>never to be consumed - ever.
>
>Matt

Was that enrofloxacin (Baytril)? The reason that I ask is that someone
on another group wrote a post about enrofloxacin, stating the same as
your vet, she got ridiculed for writing it which was mean. I have been
curious about it especially since our local vets prescribe it freely.

Regards
Krys

Steve Lucas

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Apr 15, 2002, 1:41:00 PM4/15/02
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I am using Flubenvet, and have had 1 fgo at worming my chickens, there is still
worms in the faeces on some of the chickens. Should I re-dose them immediately,
or should I increase the dose?


Any ideas??

PS I like the common sense approach to egg consumption. If it is safe for the
chicken to eat, then why is it unsafe for us to eat the eggs when the volume of
distribution of the drug will be much greater

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Ace

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Apr 16, 2002, 3:02:20 PM4/16/02
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Jill would know the answer to this. She uses Flubenvet. Read the label and
see which worms this medication are effective on. A lot of these wormers
don't kill tapeworms. Droncit kills them and you can get this from a vet. We
use a cattle wormer called Valbazen. Takes care of everything.
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Maxipops

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Apr 21, 2002, 5:08:07 AM4/21/02
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When do chickens need worming? Mine show no signs of worms at all.
What should I be looking for? Worms in their faeces? Extra hungry
for tapeworms?

I've had awful trouble getting hold of any wormer at all. I've phoned
about half a dozen different vets. My eventual findings were that
Flubenvet is the only licensed wormer for poultry in the UK. You can
use Panacur for cats/dogs in a lesser dose, too. I'm not sure of the
dose, though.

Nobody has ever seemed too sure on whether you can/can't eat the eggs
or what the waiting period is.

I've only kept chickens for a year now and I'm still in the dark on
this issue. I don't want to give my girlies anything and get it
wrong, so they haven't yet been wormed. I've bought various things,
though and they sit in the pets first aid box!

Can I not worm them yearly, say, in the autumn when they don't lay so
much? Or do I need to get onto it asap? Am I letting them down and
risking their health?

Maxipops

Jill

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Apr 21, 2002, 5:22:18 AM4/21/02
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> When do chickens need worming? Mine show no signs of worms at all.
> What should I be looking for? Worms in their faeces? Extra hungry
> for tapeworms?
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> I've had awful trouble getting hold of any wormer at all. I've phoned
> about half a dozen different vets. My eventual findings were that
> Flubenvet is the only licensed wormer for poultry in the UK. You can
> use Panacur for cats/dogs in a lesser dose, too. I'm not sure of the
> dose, though.
>
Interhatch will hep you
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if you have limited grazing then it is probably a good routine action rahter
than wait until they are ill from a high load
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jimnann

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Apr 25, 2002, 6:48:05 PM4/25/02
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Don't tell anyone but we carry on eating the eggs. Personally I think the
withdrawal period is the pharmaceutical companies playing safe.

Jim
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