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PW4000 vs GE90

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E.A. Singh

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Jul 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/17/95
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Hi there

Can anybody enlighten me on the type of control mechanisms used on the PW4000
and whether it is completely computer controlled? Is it controlled by a FADEC
system? What about the reliability of this Engine? Any pilots flying this and
can compare say against the GE90 ?

--eddy


TriStar500

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Jul 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/24/95
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>What about the reliability of this Engine?

A recent Wall Street Journal article on the GE90 noted that the shutdown
rate of the PW4000 was 7 times higher then that of the CF6.

I personally wouldn't put any PW engine design that's newer than a JT8D on
my airplane.


Simon Craig

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Jul 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/24/95
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As far as I know, the 4000 is indeed controlled by a FADEC system, though
I have no idea about any reliability reports.

Simon.


Steve Lacker

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Jul 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/28/95
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trist...@aol.com (TriStar500) wrote:
>A recent Wall Street Journal article on the GE90 noted that the shutdown
>rate of the PW4000 was 7 times higher then that of the CF6.

And for years, Southwest Airlines had to report that the dispatch reliability
of its CFM-56 powered 737's was lower than its (aging) 727-200's, the JT9 had
problems when new, the CF-6 is less reliable than the JT8D, etc. etc. Seems to
me that the "old" engine (regardless of maker) in a comparison such as the
above *usually* has the lower shutdown rate or higher dispatch reliability.

>I personally wouldn't put any PW engine design that's newer than a JT8D on
>my airplane.

I've never heard a foul word uttered about the PW 2000 series.

--
Steve Lacker / Applied Research Laboratories, The University of Texas
512-835-3286 / PO Box 8029, Austin TX 78713-8029
sla...@arlut.utexas.edu

George Mantis

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Jul 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/28/95
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TriStar500 (trist...@aol.com) wrote:
: >What about the reliability of this Engine?

: A recent Wall Street Journal article on the GE90 noted that the shutdown


: rate of the PW4000 was 7 times higher then that of the CF6.

: I personally wouldn't put any PW engine design that's newer than a JT8D on
: my airplane.

You should realize, the CF6 is a much older series than the PW4000, so CFM
International has had a LOT more time to "iron out the kinks" than Pratt &
Whitney. Besides: the GE90 is NOT part of the CF6 series!

The GE90 is an all-new engine; the PW4084 is a derivative posessing all of the
proven technologies of its predecessors. Therefore, P&W engines on your 777
would be a wise investment. (Case in point: look at all the "adjustments" GE
had to make to its GE90 following thenukerouse difficulties they experienced
during the 777 flight test program.)

Finally: the PW2000 series are at least as reliable as any of the old JT8D's.
Check your facts on the B-757 and C17 (which uses the military version of the
PW2037).

No offense, but I hope you're not involved in technical purchasing for any
airlines.

--George C. Mantis

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