Any Scala development in Germany?

[Tinxx]

There seem to be absolutely no Scala jobs over here. Here and there there are job offers where "interest in new technologies" such as Scala, Groovy, Erlang is considered a plus. But that does not mean that those companies really do Scala.

Does anybody know of any companies in Germany using Scala? I don't care if only a part of some application is written in Scala and the rest in Java or whether the developers have developed something with Scala which was tolerated by managament without being an "official permission". I only want to know whether any investment in Scala will be for fun & leisure only.

I'm a bit fead up with the way most Java jobs have become boilerplate programming jobs. If a company does some Scala development, then I know that this company must have some fine developers who understand that glue code programming itself is not the same as full-fledged software development. And such a place would be one where I would prefer to work ...

Thanx, Tinxx

[Rüdiger Klaehn]

Hi,

I work for a small german company doing software for space operations. We are using scala for the new version of our main product. At the german aerospace center (DLR) we are also evaluating scala for use in mission planning. We are struggling a bit with a large C# legacy code base, but a move to the JVM platform with scala for the more computationally intensive / math heavy part of the project is being seriously considered.

Unfortunately we are not currently hiring.

I know of another medium size company in the aerospace sector that is using a bit of scala and a lot of akka (using the excellent java API).

cheers,

Rüdiger

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[AGYNAMIX Torsten Uhlmann]

I know about Elemica in Frankfurt/Main and Veact GmbH in Munich (if I recall correctly), both use Scala and Lift.

I'm sure there are others, but I agree there are much less Scala related jobs here than, say, in the UK.

Torsten.

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[Seyed H. HAERI (Hossein)]

My situation is not that much related to the Scala-jobs in Germany.
But, I use Scala for my research -- for which I am employed by TUHH.

[Alex Repain]

2013/2/21 AGYNAMIX Torsten Uhlmann <T.Uh...@agynamix.de>

I know about Elemica in Frankfurt/Main and Veact GmbH in Munich (if I recall correctly), both use Scala and Lift.

I'm sure there are others, but I agree there are much less Scala related jobs here than, say, in the UK.

From what I've seen of offers in UK, most of the jobs seem to be bank/finance-related. I guess it's a very good sign of Scala acknowledgement, but I hope it spreads to a broader range of companies, because this can feel quite restrictive to Scala programmers...

[Simon Ochsenreither]

From my experience there are not much Scala jobs in Germany (but I heard that a Berlin-based startup is/was hiring Scala developers). If I would be looking for a decent Scala job, I would be moving to a different country.

Germany pretty much seems to live in a Java-and-Java-only bubble. I usually compare our local industry's believe that Java will be the one-and-only thing one ever needs to the way German banks acted in the wake of the financial crisis: Happily buying toxic assets as long as the sellers manged to get them rubber-stamped with an AAA, while the rest of the industry tried to get rid of it as fast as possible.

It's unfortunate, but learning Scala will be a tremendous win regardless of which language you will be using in your day job.

[Tinxx]

Germany pretty much seems to live in a Java-and-Java-only bubble.

Well, there is also .NET and SAP ... ;-)

[Sonnenschein]

Does anybody know of any companies in Germany using Scala? I don't care if only a part of some application is written in Scala and the rest in Java or whether the developers have developed something with Scala which was tolerated by managament without being an "official permission". I only want to know whether any investment in Scala will be for fun & leisure only.

Hi Tinxx or however we might call you,

Yes, I know a lot of smart people being Java experts and Scala enthusiasts here in Germany. The shift towards Scala mostly takes place within the companies not yielding fresh Scala job offers directly. This is also because there are less Software start ups.
Btw, at my company we're implementing the first Java/Scala mixed project.
You may also want to get in touch with them through the German Scala user groups.
Stay tuned.
Peter

[Simon Ochsenreither]

Germany pretty much seems to live in a Java-and-Java-only bubble.

Well, there is also .NET and SAP ... ;-)

I meant the JVM ecosystem... you can be lucky if you don't get blank, confused stares from "senior Java developers" when you mention that Java isn't the only language which runs on the JVM.

[Oliver Plow]

Am Samstag, 23. Februar 2013 21:52:31 UTC+1 schrieb Sonnenschein:

Yes, I know a lot of smart people being Java experts and Scala enthusiasts here in Germany. The shift towards Scala mostly takes place within the companies not yielding fresh Scala job offers directly. This is also because there are less Software start ups.

Yes, there are companies in our place that are great at building cars, ships, planes and all kinds of machines. But software? It isn't something made of metal, isn't it?
 

Btw, at my company we're implementing the first Java/Scala mixed project.
You may also want to get in touch with them through the German Scala user groups.
Stay tuned.

Things are about to change it seems to me. There are now several job ads in the job portals asking for Java/Scala people. This is good news and some good motivation :-)

Cheers, Oliver

Peter

[Simon Ochsenreither]

Things are about to change it seems to me. There are now several job ads in the job portals asking for Java/Scala people. This is good news and some good motivation :-)

I have seen some ads recently, but after looking at the details, many of those ads use “Scala developer” to weed out weak candidates, not because the actual job is in any way related to Scala.

[Oliver Plow]

Am Freitag, 19. April 2013 15:04:12 UTC+2 schrieb Simon Ochsenreither:

I have seen some ads recently, but after looking at the details, many of those ads use “Scala developer” to weed out weak candidates, not because the actual job is in any way related to Scala.

That is fine with me. A company that understands it can use Scala as a way to keep quality high has a good general understanding. Such a place would be a nice heaven where you are left alone from the people that think they are big shots, because they can write Java glue code. Not wanting to be negative, but it is a bit a problem of our time ;-)

[Simon Ochsenreither]

A company that understands it can use Scala as a way to keep quality high has a good general understanding. Such a place would be a nice heaven where you are left alone from the people that think they are big shots, because they can write Java glue code.

I think it's more along the lines of "Oh, you know Scala? That's great, because you will work on our legacy JavaEE-EJB2 mess which no one understands anymore!".

[Oliver Plow]

Am Samstag, 20. April 2013 01:23:52 UTC+2 schrieb Simon Ochsenreither:

A company that understands it can use Scala as a way to keep quality high has a good general understanding. Such a place would be a nice heaven where you are left alone from the people that think they are big shots, because they can write Java glue code.

I think it's more along the lines of "Oh, you know Scala? That's great, because you will work on our legacy JavaEE-EJB2 mess which no one understands anymore!".

Thanks for this one. Gave me a nice Saturday morning laugh ;-). Yah, maybe I was a bit too optimistic or even a bit naive? Nice Weekend :-)

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[Ayoub Benali]

Hello,

I work for a company that do almost only Scala development and there is more companies that uses Scala (besides other languages) here in Berlin.