Proposal to merge mailing lists
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Michael Hucka
Dec 18, 2020, 10:15:25 PM12/18/20
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Hello SBML community,
We have a lot of mailing lists. I think figuring out the distinctions
between the lists has always been difficult and annoying for people.
And it is clear we also have less traffic on the lists that we used to
have. Therefore, I propose that we consolidate certain lists,
specifically the following ones:
sbml-discuss
sbml-interoperability
sbml-announce
I propose that sbml-discuss and sbml-interoperability be merged into
sbml-discuss, and we broaden sbml-discuss to be not just SBML issues,
but SBML-using software discussions as well. This makes some sense as
the two topics are often intertwined anyway. The lists used to be
separate when SBML-the-format discussions were more voluminous and
software devs didn't necessarily care about the minutia of SBML, but
these days, there's so little traffic that it doesn't seem worth
separating them.
In addition, I propose we close sbml-announce, and post announcements to
sbml-discuss. As a practical matter, announcements are almost always
currently posted to both sbml-discuss and sbml-announce, which is
obviously redundant for some people. And the memberships overlap quite
a bit. The only reason to keep sbml-announce would be for people who
wanted even less traffic than sbml-discuss, and I realize they would
lose that feature. Perhaps we could have some conventions for
announcement messages, so that people could spot those more easily and
filter out things they're not interested in.
Procedurally, the way we could do these changes is to simply close
sbml-interoperability and sbml-announce to new postings, but leave them
online as archives. We would also add messages at the front of the
Googlegroup pages explaining to people that the lists are no longer
active, and that they should join sbml-discuss instead.
What do people think of this idea?
MH
We have a lot of mailing lists. I think figuring out the distinctions
between the lists has always been difficult and annoying for people.
And it is clear we also have less traffic on the lists that we used to
have. Therefore, I propose that we consolidate certain lists,
specifically the following ones:
sbml-discuss
sbml-interoperability
sbml-announce
I propose that sbml-discuss and sbml-interoperability be merged into
sbml-discuss, and we broaden sbml-discuss to be not just SBML issues,
but SBML-using software discussions as well. This makes some sense as
the two topics are often intertwined anyway. The lists used to be
separate when SBML-the-format discussions were more voluminous and
software devs didn't necessarily care about the minutia of SBML, but
these days, there's so little traffic that it doesn't seem worth
separating them.
In addition, I propose we close sbml-announce, and post announcements to
sbml-discuss. As a practical matter, announcements are almost always
currently posted to both sbml-discuss and sbml-announce, which is
obviously redundant for some people. And the memberships overlap quite
a bit. The only reason to keep sbml-announce would be for people who
wanted even less traffic than sbml-discuss, and I realize they would
lose that feature. Perhaps we could have some conventions for
announcement messages, so that people could spot those more easily and
filter out things they're not interested in.
Procedurally, the way we could do these changes is to simply close
sbml-interoperability and sbml-announce to new postings, but leave them
online as archives. We would also add messages at the front of the
Googlegroup pages explaining to people that the lists are no longer
active, and that they should join sbml-discuss instead.
What do people think of this idea?
MH
Mendes,Pedro
Dec 19, 2020, 9:46:00 AM12/19/20
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Hi Mike,
I think this is a great idea. I support it.
Pedro
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I think this is a great idea. I support it.
Pedro
Pedro Mendes, PhD
Professor and Director,
Richard D. Berlin Center for Cell Analysis and Modeling
University of Connecticut School of Medicine
group website: http://www.comp-sys-bio.org
ICSB 2021 will take place in Hartford, CT, October 9-14, 2021
http://icsb2020.bioscience-ct.net
Chris Myers
Dec 19, 2020, 2:27:53 PM12/19/20
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Sounds good.
Chris
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Hoops, Stefan (sh9cq)
Dec 20, 2020, 8:28:59 AM12/20/20
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Hello Mike,
I second this too.
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I second this too.
Stefan
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Loew,Leslie M.
Dec 20, 2020, 9:48:13 AM12/20/20
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Very good idea; and thank you Mike for maintaining the lists for these many years.
Happy Holidays,
Les
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Blinov,Michael
Dec 20, 2020, 8:02:25 PM12/20/20
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Hi Mike,
I completely support the idea. I didn’t use sbml-announce because I forgot about it, and I’ve never even heard about sbml-interoperability.
Best regards,
Michael
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I completely support the idea. I didn’t use sbml-announce because I forgot about it, and I’ve never even heard about sbml-interoperability.
Best regards,
Michael
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Johann Rohwer
Dec 21, 2020, 2:45:01 AM12/21/20
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I support this as well.
Johann
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Matthias König
Dec 21, 2020, 11:35:04 AM12/21/20
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Sounds very good.
Best Matthias
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Zhang, Fengkai (NIH/NIAID) [E]
Dec 21, 2020, 11:37:28 AM12/21/20
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I support it too.
Fengkai
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Rahuman Sheriff
Jan 25, 2021, 1:13:08 PM1/25/21
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Hi Mike
As every one agreed, this is a great idea.
Are you taking care of reorganisation of the Googlegroup ? Or has it been already done ?
Please let us know if you need any assistance.
I hope there will be an announcement in all channels once this is done.
Best regards
Sheriff
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Michael Hucka
Jan 31, 2021, 8:19:06 PM1/31/21
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Hasn't been done yet. There will be an announcement.
MH
On 25 Jan 2021, at 10:13, Rahuman Sheriff wrote:
> Hi Mike
> As every one agreed, this is a great idea.
>
> Are you taking care of reorganisation of the Googlegroup ? Or has it
> been already done ?
>
> Please let us know if you need any assistance.
>
> I hope there will be an announcement in all channels once this is
> done.
>
> Best regards
> Sheriff
>
>
>> On 21 Dec 2020, at 16:37, 'Zhang, Fengkai (NIH/NIAID) [E]' via
>> sbml-discuss <sbml-d...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> I support it too.
>>
>> Fengkai
>>
>>
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MH
On 25 Jan 2021, at 10:13, Rahuman Sheriff wrote:
> Hi Mike
> As every one agreed, this is a great idea.
>
> Are you taking care of reorganisation of the Googlegroup ? Or has it
> been already done ?
>
> Please let us know if you need any assistance.
>
> I hope there will be an announcement in all channels once this is
> done.
>
> Best regards
> Sheriff
>
>
>> On 21 Dec 2020, at 16:37, 'Zhang, Fengkai (NIH/NIAID) [E]' via
>> sbml-discuss <sbml-d...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> I support it too.
>>
>> Fengkai
>>
>>
>> From: 'Matthias König' via sbml-discuss
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Michael Hucka
Feb 3, 2021, 11:59:14 PM2/3/21
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OK, this has finally been done. sbml-announce and sbml-interoperability
are still online but (in theory anyway) it will not be possible to post
new messages to the lists.
MH
are still online but (in theory anyway) it will not be possible to post
new messages to the lists.
MH
Rahuman Sheriff
Feb 4, 2021, 12:45:02 AM2/4/21
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Great. Many thanks Mike.
Best regards,
Sheriff
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