Feature Request: manual clave
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SalsAlx
Apr 22, 2010, 9:53:00 AM4/22/10
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There aren't too many salsa instruments that you can PLAY on the
iPhone but the clave is one of them. Luckily it happens to be the
most important.
Do you think there could be an option to switch from playing the clave
loop to playing the clave by tapping on the screen? This would be
pretty great as an instructor.
I wonder if other instruments might work too... ah, the guirro for
sure.
This might open up some additional features for the ipad version. You
might conceivably be able to play the conga or the bongos on the
ipad. Is the screen big enough?
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iPhone but the clave is one of them. Luckily it happens to be the
most important.
Do you think there could be an option to switch from playing the clave
loop to playing the clave by tapping on the screen? This would be
pretty great as an instructor.
I wonder if other instruments might work too... ah, the guirro for
sure.
This might open up some additional features for the ipad version. You
might conceivably be able to play the conga or the bongos on the
ipad. Is the screen big enough?
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t0m
Apr 22, 2010, 10:54:01 AM4/22/10
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Sounds like another app - or a flip side Play instrument app?
Drums could, as could clave, timbales, cowbell, guajira, shakers
could.
Drums could, as could clave, timbales, cowbell, guajira, shakers
could.
SalsAlx
Apr 22, 2010, 11:06:52 AM4/22/10
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No no no! Not another app at all. A new use for THIS app! I want to
be able to have the congas and bongos and bass playing in the
background and for the class to SEE me TAP on my screen and play the
clave. There are already plenty of toy apps that play clave,
maraccas, and of course cowbell. But none of them have the control
that the salsa beat machine has to go along with the ability to play
the instrument.
If you use the SBM as a learning tool, and I think that's what it is,
then it makes a lot of sense to give the user the ability to play the
clave especially, and also the guirro and the cowbell and naturall
shake the iPhone for maraccas. Maybe even play the timbales. LOL tap
on the side of the phone like they tap on the side of the drum. Haha.
be able to have the congas and bongos and bass playing in the
background and for the class to SEE me TAP on my screen and play the
clave. There are already plenty of toy apps that play clave,
maraccas, and of course cowbell. But none of them have the control
that the salsa beat machine has to go along with the ability to play
the instrument.
If you use the SBM as a learning tool, and I think that's what it is,
then it makes a lot of sense to give the user the ability to play the
clave especially, and also the guirro and the cowbell and naturall
shake the iPhone for maraccas. Maybe even play the timbales. LOL tap
on the side of the phone like they tap on the side of the drum. Haha.
Uri Shaked
Jul 2, 2010, 5:59:52 AM7/2/10
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Now that we have version 1.0 out, we can start experimenting with additional ideas like the one Alex suggested in this message. Well, I'd like to hear your opinion, how do you think we should implement this ?
Uri
- As a simple tap-and-play the clave
- As a game that also gives you a score how well you play the clave. This one is harder since we have to decide about some criteria to determine the score of the player.
- Taking 2 even further, we can try to create a guitar-heroes like game where you play one or more latin insturments along with the rest of the band. And this could maybe implemented as a different app - unless we come up with some brilliant way to integrate it into the existing application...
Uri
jms
Jul 21, 2010, 4:05:16 AM7/21/10
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URI,
You have to think about your market and what Salsa Rhythm is supposed
to do.
For me, it's an application for salsa dancers (beginners and people
with musicality issues).
It's not a toy for kids like guitar hero. or a traning tool for
musicians.
So, I believe that adding this feature, you add something sexy that
could route salsa rhythm out of its way/target (and may kill it as
users will not recognize their preferred tool).
When I exercise myself using Salsa Rhythm, I tap hands or clave (5$
but noisy). And it's fine.
Tapping on the i-phone or shaking it or typing on i-pad doesn't bring
real advantage. And is not easy to do.
Of course, Guitar hero gives me a lot of fun (and more to my son).
But it's a game for kids.
It may help people practising (I saw interesting things on youtube).
But in this case, it's help for musicians. (Great things on line to
practice drums by the way).
So, it's something I would push to another version, later after
understanding more the interest for dancers.
I'll tell you if I change my mind about that OR acquire more
conviction on it.
I believe that Guitar Hero or Rock Band should exist with Latin music.
But you shouldn't compete with them.
It's fun but probably not good marketing.
Jean-Michel
On 2 juil, 11:59, Uri Shaked <u...@salsa4fun.co.il> wrote:
> Now that we have version 1.0 out, we can start experimenting with additional
> ideas like the one Alex suggested in this message. Well, I'd like to hear
> your opinion, how do you think we should implement this ?
>
> 1. As a simple tap-and-play the clave
>
> 2. As a game that also gives you a score how well you play the clave.
>
> - Afficher le texte des messages précédents -
You have to think about your market and what Salsa Rhythm is supposed
to do.
For me, it's an application for salsa dancers (beginners and people
with musicality issues).
It's not a toy for kids like guitar hero. or a traning tool for
musicians.
So, I believe that adding this feature, you add something sexy that
could route salsa rhythm out of its way/target (and may kill it as
users will not recognize their preferred tool).
When I exercise myself using Salsa Rhythm, I tap hands or clave (5$
but noisy). And it's fine.
Tapping on the i-phone or shaking it or typing on i-pad doesn't bring
real advantage. And is not easy to do.
Of course, Guitar hero gives me a lot of fun (and more to my son).
But it's a game for kids.
It may help people practising (I saw interesting things on youtube).
But in this case, it's help for musicians. (Great things on line to
practice drums by the way).
So, it's something I would push to another version, later after
understanding more the interest for dancers.
I'll tell you if I change my mind about that OR acquire more
conviction on it.
I believe that Guitar Hero or Rock Band should exist with Latin music.
But you shouldn't compete with them.
It's fun but probably not good marketing.
Jean-Michel
On 2 juil, 11:59, Uri Shaked <u...@salsa4fun.co.il> wrote:
> Now that we have version 1.0 out, we can start experimenting with additional
> ideas like the one Alex suggested in this message. Well, I'd like to hear
> your opinion, how do you think we should implement this ?
>
>
> 2. As a game that also gives you a score how well you play the clave.
> This one is harder since we have to decide about some criteria to determine
> the score of the player.
>
> 3. Taking 2 even further, we can try to create a guitar-heroes like game
> the score of the player.
>
> where you play one or more latin insturments along with the rest of the
> band. And this could maybe implemented as a different app - unless we come
> up with some brilliant way to integrate it into the existing application...
>
> I'd love to hear your own thoughts and reflections about this matter...
>
> Uri
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:06 PM, SalsAlx <smart...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > No no no! Not another app at all. A new use for THIS app! I want to
> > be able to have the congas and bongos and bass playing in the
> > background and for the class to SEE me TAP on my screen and play the
> > clave. There are already plenty of toy apps that play clave,
> > maraccas, and of course cowbell. But none of them have the control
> > that the salsa beat machine has to go along with the ability to play
> > the instrument.
>
> > If you use the SBM as a learning tool, and I think that's what it is,
> > then it makes a lot of sense to give the user the ability to play the
> > clave especially, and also the guirro and the cowbell and naturall
> > shake the iPhone for maraccas. Maybe even play the timbales. LOL tap
> > on the side of the phone like they tap on the side of the drum. Haha.
>
> > On Apr 22, 9:54 am, t0m <tftu...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > Sounds like another app - or a flip side Play instrument app?
> > > Drums could, as could clave, timbales, cowbell, guajira, shakers
> > > could.
>
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> band. And this could maybe implemented as a different app - unless we come
> up with some brilliant way to integrate it into the existing application...
>
> I'd love to hear your own thoughts and reflections about this matter...
>
> Uri
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:06 PM, SalsAlx <smart...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > No no no! Not another app at all. A new use for THIS app! I want to
> > be able to have the congas and bongos and bass playing in the
> > background and for the class to SEE me TAP on my screen and play the
> > clave. There are already plenty of toy apps that play clave,
> > maraccas, and of course cowbell. But none of them have the control
> > that the salsa beat machine has to go along with the ability to play
> > the instrument.
>
> > If you use the SBM as a learning tool, and I think that's what it is,
> > then it makes a lot of sense to give the user the ability to play the
> > clave especially, and also the guirro and the cowbell and naturall
> > shake the iPhone for maraccas. Maybe even play the timbales. LOL tap
> > on the side of the phone like they tap on the side of the drum. Haha.
>
> > On Apr 22, 9:54 am, t0m <tftu...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > Sounds like another app - or a flip side Play instrument app?
> > > Drums could, as could clave, timbales, cowbell, guajira, shakers
> > > could.
>
> > > --
> > > Subscription settings:
>
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Uri Shaked
Jul 27, 2010, 7:48:42 PM7/27/10
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Interesting thoughts indeed...
Another possible direction that may be the best would be visualizing the rhythm in different ways - one of the users has suggested displayed a waveform with Clave beats and/or Conga beats marked on it, so u can associate the peak you see the the picture with the sound that you hear.
Something similar to this youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR48Cwh4ZS4
What are your thoughts ?
Uri
Another possible direction that may be the best would be visualizing the rhythm in different ways - one of the users has suggested displayed a waveform with Clave beats and/or Conga beats marked on it, so u can associate the peak you see the the picture with the sound that you hear.
Something similar to this youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR48Cwh4ZS4
What are your thoughts ?
Uri
Jean-Michel Seigneur
Jul 28, 2010, 12:22:58 PM7/28/10
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I like the waveform. But it’s normal as I’m an engineer.
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manual clave
Uri Shaked
Aug 7, 2010, 7:32:25 PM8/7/10
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Well, I have created a simple video showing exactly that - a waveform of the song with the beat grid highlighted on it. I am going to upload it this week to our youtube channel, http://www.youtube.com/user/SalsaBeatMachine.
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