New Weave Pattern from Last Week

[Matthew Thornley]

The link below is for a spreadsheet that describes a weave pattern that we came up with last week. The basic unit for the feeder is a five-count to the right and a five-count to the left.

It's fairly easy for the feeders, being 2 moving six-counts and a stationary three-count. This is similar to the standard vanilla weave which is all six-counts for the feedees.

The feeder position is a bit challenging: pass-pass-pass-self-self.

This is all much better described in the spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hoGUkGnZvTC00q0jXABqgocmc5BrIcxtOmzNMSuh9Bc/edit?usp=sharing

[Mark Chun]

That was confusing!

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[Matthew Thornley]

Hi Arthur!

Thanks for doing that. It looks right, on a cursory glance. Way easier to understand.

I don't have a name for this weave yet, although the IVW (Isla Vista Weave) version of the pattern I'm thinking of calling 5-count Isla Vista Weave, variation #2. Kinda' rolls off the tongue, don't'cha think?

-Matthew

On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 11:54 AM Arthur O'Dwyer <arthur....@gmail.com> wrote:

I revisited my >13-year-old juggling animation project and made an animation of what I gather the pattern to be.

https://quuxplusone.github.io/JugglersDrift/FiveCountWeave/

Have you established a name for this pattern yet? :)

Cheers,

Arthur

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[Arthur O'Dwyer]

On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 9:25 PM Matthew Thornley <schn...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Arthur!

Thanks for doing that. It looks right, on a cursory glance. Way easier to understand.

I don't have a name for this weave yet, although the IVW (Isla Vista Weave) version of the pattern I'm thinking of calling 5-count Isla Vista Weave, variation #2. Kinda' rolls off the tongue, don't'cha think?

I plan to figure out the IVW version later today or tomorrow, then! But why "variation #2" — what is variation #1? :)

–Arthur

[Arthur O'Dwyer]

Figured!

https://quuxplusone.github.io/JugglersDrift/FiveCountIVW/

–Arthur

[Chuck Fernald]

+Ryan Fernald

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[Matthew Thornley]

Very cool! You nearly got it, or rather, you figured out a variation with less friendly leads. The leads will be less collision prone if the pass from the #2 feeddee, coming up the center, leads the feeder to where the feeder needs to go next. The right-hand feeder will be looping to their right, so the pass from feedee #2 (coming up the center) should be from their left hand, leading the feeder to the feeder's right. Note that this is the opposite of where the feeder would be throwing if it were a simple 4-person weave with a stationary feeder.

Oh, and 5-count IVW variation #1 has the feeder throwing on 1,3, and 5. 1 & 3 are thrown to the outside feedee (#1) and 5 is thrown to the center feedee (#2). The feeder on the left-hand side of the pattern (from the feeder's perspective) passes only with the right hand (1, 3, and 5). The feeder on the right-hand side of the pattern (from the feeder's perspective) passes only with the left hand. Note that the feeder receives a nice outside throw that leads them where they need to go.

BTW, these IVW patterns can be done in a stationary manner in a pentagram with the feeder switching clockwise or counterclockwise every N beats. This allows for patterns that would be impossible if they were moving patterns. The 3-count version works nicely with the feeder passing on 1 and 3. The feeder exchanges only with the 2 people in front of them. They do not pass with those adjacent to themselves.

There is also a 1-count, but that hardly counts as a feed.

-Matthew

[Matthew Thornley]

I enjoyed staring at the other patterns in Arthur's collection: https://quuxplusone.github.io/JugglersDrift/

"Morgan's Reel" is still familiar to me, although I don't remember the Turbo version.

It's so much easier to watch IVXX (Antietam) than to get 10 jugglers together to do it live. I can hardly wait to see the 5-count variations!

-Matthew

[Anita]

Juggling at solstice??

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[Matthew Thornley]

I'll be there.

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