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New Mutants #87The artwork of Liefeld, and even that of Jim Lee later on, was probably the biggest deterrent for me when trying to get into the X-books as a kid. I adored the animated series (which, funny enough, featured a lot of the costumes designed by Lee), but every time I picked up the books the art just made me sick to my stomach.
New Mutants #87Jon I doubt any of us would want to be judged based on what we liked when we were kids. And yes, as a kid I also loved Liefeld's work. I was never really a New Mutants fan but Liefeld's art and obsession with everything being "cool" took a book that I was barely aware was still being sold and suddenly made it one I was buying every month (continuing into X-Force). It didn't last more than a few years before all I could see were the flaws (and there are so many). That plus as I grew older I started to learn more about the creators than I had cared about as a kid. As soon as I got to know more about Liefeld, my dislike of him on a personal level began to color my enjoyment of his work.
That being said, let me make a confession that will get me kicked out of the Comic Coalition of Good Taste and say that when I was a kid I TOTALLY ate this $@&% up! Seriously, for the pubescent in me, this issue and this artwork was the Coolest. Thing. Ever! And even as an unabashed "Liefeld-hater" I still think this issue isn't "that bad" (relatively, mind you.) It shows promise and would be a good direction for a floundering series, if followed. Ironically enough, Weezie's writing seems a bit sharper than it's been in the past. Even though they reportedly didn't get along with each other, they made a decent team somehow minimizing each others flaws.
New Mutants #87@jon dubya: Yeah was sort of being funny there. If there's one thing you have to think about with Liefeld, its that really its the writers that define his characters...because he can't.
Actually we'll to it sooner than that, as the new MLF recruits (yes there are MORE of them!) are blatant ripoffs of existing characters. Hell we are already seeing it NOW, as fnord already pointed out the Forearm/Barbarous similarities and Wild side is basically just a miscolored Wolverine (and get used to seeing the Wolver-mane as we head into the 90s.) I think Cable was the only "original" character Liefeld created.
And besides being "off-model" expect to see numerous inconsistencies as well with costumes, hairstyles, general design etc.. For instance, Rictor ALREADY look different than he did in NM#85, even factoring in artistic differences.
What's MissingI wasn't aware of them so thanks for pointing them out. I have been interested in filling out my Golden Age stuff. It seems like there's more "continuity" (of the single series variety, at least) than i was aware of. But for the couple of years i intend to just go forward and cover the 90s. I'll start looking for used copies of the softcovers, though.
Spectacular Spider-Man #134-136Sal Buscema's work definitely stood out from the pack when I first started reading comics in the early-90s, and it remains a favorite of mine. His art, along with Alex Saviuk's in Web, gives stories a certain charm that I find to be largely missing from the MacFarlane/Larsen-era of Amazing.
Jungle Action #24Windeagle's original outfit is a truly bizarre costume design--a fully covered upper body, and then a nearly-nude bottom half. We've seen women characters get costumes like that before (Mockingbird, Carol Danvers, etc) but rarely men.
Black Panther #14-15You know, that does sound vaguely like something i mentioned once, but i don't remember what issue it was in, and i did some searching on the site and didn't find anything. Maybe someone else will remember.
Captain America #368I've always found it interesting that a Nazi villain like Red Skull would employ an openly gay henchman like Machinesmith--and how he and the rest of the Skeleton Crew just accept Machinesmith so easily. They can't be unaware of it--he is flamboyant enough and open enough that he isn't making any effort to hide it. And Mother Night and her brother both comment openly about it at one point.
For a team of super-villains led by a Nazi and including a street thug like Crossbones and a brother/sister team with church-based costumes and code-names, they are surprisingly tolerant and open-minded. LOL
I guess Machinesmith's skills and expertise prove his value to Red Skull, and the fact that he is robotic now maybe negate the matter of sexuality in his mind...although anatomically-correct artificial lifeforms like Vision and Jim Hammond having sex with humans, and even non-anatomically correcting robots like Ultron creating bridges for himself, shows that sexuality IS still an issue. But I guess the Skull doesn't think about it that much.
Black Panther #14-15Hey you write amazing reviews, I read a lot of your reviews. I just wanted to ask if you know about any issues you've read where hawkeye or somebody( i can't remember who, but I'm pretty sure it was hawkeye) said that captain america could fight better than the black panther, I remember reading it somewhere in your reviews, you might have written it under references or notes, I just wanted to know if the statement about captain america being to able to fight better than black panther is a statement that actually exists or am I just remembering it incorrectly?
2 - That one of the great things the first Spider-Man film did was change it so that Uncle Ben was killed in a mugging in the city, thus negating the need to explain why on earth the burglar went all the way out to Queens.
But, if only Aunt May had stayed dead. I think the reason I never regularly collected Spider-Man at any point was that I was so tired of the constant drama over Aunt May and her health and her financial state. I just wanted her gone and out of the story.
Fantastic Four #52-53A couple of weird errors from Stan and Jack in #53 -- Black Panther says he will take out the "two guards" at Klaw's hideout, when there are three other people in the panel; and, as can be seen above, Klaw miraculously gets his hand back before jumping into the converter.
New Mutants #87I get the need for a new direction with how the comic became with the generic adventures and at least this tries to maybe bring in the idea of a new group of mutant liberation/antagonists. The problem...is that Liefeld is the type who just does stuff "because its cool". He doesn't care about rhyme or reason, he does it because he wants to do it. Massive battle armor, strange looking Mindless Ones, a guy with four arms literally named "Forearms" (then again Ben 10 did that better...and he was an alien)...if its awesome, Liefeld draws it. For the most part we're just in for the ride at this point.
New Mutants #87@ChrisW- regarding the attack on the secret energy station, the problem is that next issue Cable concludes they attacked the station because they were stealing stuff needed to create a bomb but in issue 93-94, the MLF's plan involves POISON, not a bomb.
And it's not just the art. The characters have become so generic and formless that they're light years away from the people we knew. Interchangeable mutants whining about being mutants and getting into fights. Does Sam still have a family? Dani just abandoned hers. Nobody misses Doug, Illyana or Amara [and Shan was dropped like a bad habit.] Boom Boom reminisces about "OUR mentor"s dream, when she never met Xavier in the first place. He was leaving the planet when she first appeared. Then Rictor's the one responding to her about how noble that dream was? Yeah, there's a guy who'd be real receptive to peaceful coexistence. Skids doesn't remotely resemble the cute Morlock chick we use to know, although I guess it's believable that she'd immediately join the mutant terrorists. And why is Mystique there? Doesn't she have government organizations to infiltrate? Or at least a group to lead? Nope, just generic horrible dialogue. The fact that X-Factor returned from space at the moment the New Mutants returned from Asgard kind of proves the theory we've been tossing around here that both storylines were planned to get them out of the way for a while.
The new villains are just stupid as well. Generic powers, simple names, kindergarten-level characterization at best. Stonewall, Super Sabre and the Crimson Commando may not have been much - and it's not clear why they were ever introduced in the first place; did Freedom Force need plussing up that badly? - but they were a lot more three-dimensional and we knew much more about who they were, what they did and why. They weren't just trashing some prison and fighting a new character we know nothing about before reporting to a shadowy boss we've never seen before.
Why was the MLF even attacking that secret energy station in the first place? Because of Rusty and Skids? Wouldn't a non-secret energy station have served that purpose better? They'd still have the same chance of bringing the Avengers or the Fantastic Four down on their heads, but at least people would know about it.
Then there's Cable. I never liked Cable. The ultra-violent guy only works if he's in the minority and not the leader. He doesn't even have superpowers and he's leading a superhero team? He's little more than the Punisher with a stupid costume. [Although I see that the prison disagreed, and left him with his spiky armbands, boots and belt in the last scan.] He would have been tolerable if he'd just lasted one adventure against the Mutants I'd Like to F*ck, but nooooooooooo...
And then there is the art. God save us, there is the art. The facial expressions and the unwillingness to draw backgrounds are bad enough, but the lack of thought going into this stuff is astounding. Look at the splash page, crowded with five characters, with details thrown in behind them after-the fact. Tubes that are just there, not even plugging into the wall, circling around the teleportal. In her first appearance, Tempo's legs are going a different direction from her hips which are going a different direction from her upper body. The angles are constantly tilted for no reason, making it feel like a story told by a five year old on a sugar rush. Constant close-ups and crowding the panel with bodies, leaving no sense of space or context. Cable's firing guns which not only don't have trigger guards, they don't even have triggers.
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