Good letter; In addition to the wattage difference, Houston is a MUCH bigger media market than Nashville, which certainly affects value.
Marc
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Scott Cardone
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:27 PM
To: save...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Save WRVU!] letter to the editor
Hey guys,
OK, I have looked over the 990 filings from 2002 to 2007. I can't find 2008 and suspect 2009 has not been filed yet...
Sorry this is so ramble-y, but I am at work.
Overall, here's what I see:
2007 revenue is up 85.2% from 2002, with average annual increases of 10% or more.
Both the advertising revenue and AcFee revenues have increased annually, in proportion to one another.
Salaries/benefits: 2002 compared to 2007 shows a 127.8% increase. The largest increase was in 2005, at 44.5%
Compared to revenue, 2002 payroll was 27.8%. 2007 was 34.2%
For the record, Carroll's salary increases are all within reasonable limits, with a 20% increase over the 6 year period, roughly 3% annually.
The 990 is not very specific in regard to expenses. The only red flags I can spot:
2002 Bank Charges: 1702.00 compared to 2006: 8633.00 and then 2008: 18426.00.
Advertising EXPENSES: 2002: 3730.00, 2006:31218.00, 2008: 15775.00
The point of the story? There is no need to panic about money. I do suspect 2008/2009 revenues will be down. Recession, duh! I assume they are trying to protect the very large overhead costs that have developed by creating a financial cushion to cover their salaries/expenses
CL
This is a very important point to promulgate. I wonder if we can
somehow find out the current salaries--current information would have
more punch.
I feel sure that when WRVU listeners hear about "student media," they
are not imagining that seven non-student staff members are soaking up
a large part of the budget.
Pete
On Oct 4, 5:03 pm, "M. Scott Cardone"
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Pretty sure fcc requires an engineer to be on payroll.
ChrisSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
From: "M. Scott Cardone" <michael....@vanderbilt.edu>Sender: save...@googlegroups.comDate: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 15:51:47 -0500ReplyTo: save...@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: [Save WRVU!] Re: letter to the editor
I agree with you that Carl and Jim are valuable employees, but my question is not whether or not its nice to have guys like that around. This is not an issue of whether the current employees are good ones but instead of whether or not VSC was irresponsible in hiring them, which is a different question altogether. I mean no disrespect to Jim or Carl when I say that while they're services are valuable, a company cannot responsibly hire more people than it can afford. If revenues were up by 85%, benefits and salaries should not have gone up by more than that, but instead they outpaced revenue and went up by 127%. This is a case of VSC's irresponsible business practices that WRVU is now being asked to pay for. Even if with only one employee VSC was short-staffed, it doesn't matter - you simply can't hire people that you can't afford to pay. No business can operate on the principle of "hire everyone we'd like to hire and we'll figure it out later" because what happens later is something like this - in order for everyone to keep their job, VSC now has to sell WRVU, (which would probably render Carl's services entirely useless, and Jim's at least partially). If the choice is keep the seven employees or keep WRVU, the choice should be clear to everyone - keep a $5 million asset or keep an employee who's job used to be done for free and who we can probably get along without (even though they'll probably be missed)? The services that VSC is supposed to protect and provide should supercede any individual employee.�
functions (I assume that takes some money), etc.?� It seems like VSC
really is becoming quite the bureaucracy, with some overhead costs
that have little to do with producing the publications and
broadcasts.� Chris is a big name in the student media advisor world--
how much money is going toward his travel and his non-Vanderbilt
professional work?� Don't these things need to be emphasized?� And
when is the last time that Wollaeger was prodded on giving us
information on VSC's finances?� Do we have recourse to get them one
way or another because of the non-profit status?
Pete
On Oct 4, 7:26�pm, Chris Lowry <chri...@foodbusinessrestaurants.com>
wrote:
> Scott, your non-commercial status allows for paid sponsorships, or grants.
> Without going into detail, you are allowed to sell a "this hour has been
> brought to you by..." and provide the info about the sponsor in a
> non-qualitative way. �Like what you hear on NPR...
>
> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 6:52 PM, M. Scott Cardone <
>
>
>
> michael.s.card...@vanderbilt.edu> wrote:
> > I don't know how possible it is to make a cash cow out of WRVU since we
> > can't have ads due to our non-profit FCC status. I think the point is that
> > the Hustler is the only organization with the potential for income for VSC,
> > which is why they seem to love it so much more than the rest.
>
> > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:33 PM, <christophot...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >> Or put one of the seven on the street to sell underwriting support and
> >> create a cash cow out of RVU. Underused in the revenue it could generate.
>
> >> Chris
> >> The Future of Jazz
>
> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >> ------------------------------
> >> *From: *"M. Scott Cardone" <michael.s.card...@vanderbilt.edu>
> >> �*Sender: *save...@googlegroups.com
> >> *Date: *Mon, 04 Oct 2010 17:21:44 -0500
> >> �*To: *<save...@googlegroups.com>
> >> *ReplyTo: *save...@googlegroups.com
> >> � *Subject: *Re: [Save WRVU!] Re: letter to the editor
> >>> This is a very important point to promulgate. �I wonder if we can
> >>> somehow find out the current salaries--current information would have
> >>> more punch.
>
> >>> I feel sure that when WRVU listeners hear about "student media," they
> >>> are not imagining that seven non-student staff members are soaking up
> >>> a large part of the budget.
>
> >>> Pete
>
> >>> On Oct 4, 5:03 pm, "M. Scott Cardone"
> >>> <michael.s.card...@vanderbilt.edu> wrote:
> >>> > It's exactly what I expected. VSC isn't looking out for student media,
> >>> > they're looking out for their own salaries. This endowment doesn't have
> >>> > anything to do with protecting media in perpetuity as their press
> >>> release
> >>> > says; they're killing media and then taking the money to protect
> >>> themselves
> >>> > in perpetuity. "Endow media in perpetuity" really means "we'll have
> >>> > paychecks forever". Assholes.
>
> >>> > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Chris Lowry <
>
> >>> > chri...@foodbusinessrestaurants.com> wrote:
> >>> > > Salaries and benefits (excluding payroll taxes) by year:
> >>> > > 2002 �161,687
> >>> > > 2003 �149,824
> >>> > > 2004 �245,188
> >>> > > 2005 �354,330
> >>> > > 2006 �383,544
> >>> > > 2007 �368,273
>
> >>> > > The only itemized salaries are for Carroll, with a couple of years
> >>> > > that also itemize Fischer and Hayes. �In 07 those three totalled
> >>> 196,693.00
>
> >>> > > Again though, the 990s are VERY vague (think tax return) �I can only
> >>> assume
> >>> > > that the figures included in "salaries and compensation" are just
> >>> that.
> >>> > > Meanwhile any outside expenses like an engineering consultant (Carl)
> >>> would
> >>> > > likely be 1099'd and therefore not included in those figures.
>
> >>> > > Here's the link to the reports:
> >>> > >http://nccsdataweb.urban.org/orgs/profile/237030713#forms
>
> >>> > > C
>
> >>> > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Pete of Nashville Jumps <
> >>> wheat...@aol.com>wrote:
>
> >>> > >> Do you have any raw figures for salaries?
>
> >>> > >> On Oct 4, 3:24 pm, "Chris Lowry" <
> >>> chri...@foodbusinessrestaurants.com>
> >>> > >> wrote:
> >>> > >> > This is the information I had pulled off the public 990 tax
> >>> returns for
> >>> > >> a different email I wrote:
>
> >>> > >> > OK, I have looked over the 990 filings from 2002 to 2007. �I can't
> >>> find
> >>> > >> 2008 and suspect 2009 has not been filed yet...
>
> >>> > >> > Sorry this is so ramble-y, but I am at work.
>
> >>> > >> > Overall, here's what I see:
> >>> > >> > 2007 revenue is up 85.2% from 2002, with average annual increases
> >>> of 10%
> >>> > >> or more.
> >>> > >> > Both the advertising revenue and AcFee revenues have increased
> >>> annually,
> >>> > >> in proportion to one another.
>
> >>> > >> > Salaries/benefits: 2002 compared to 2007 shows a 127.8% increase.
> >>> �The
> >>> > >> largest increase was in 2005, at 44.5%
> >>> > >> > Compared to revenue, 2002 payroll was 27.8%. �2007 was 34.2%
> >>> > >> > For the record, Carroll's salary increases are all within
> >>> reasonable
> >>> > >> limits, with a 20% increase over the 6 year period, roughly 3%
> >>> annually.
>
> >>> > >> > The 990 is not very specific in regard to expenses. �The only red
> >>> flags
> >>> > >> I can spot:
> >>> > >> > 2002 Bank Charges: 1702.00 compared to 2006: 8633.00 and then
> >>> 2008:
> >>> > >> 18426.00.
> >>> > >> > Advertising EXPENSES: 2002: 3730.00, 2006:31218.00, 2008: 15775.00
>
> >>> > >> > The point of the story? �There is no need to panic about money. �I
> >>> do
> >>> > >> suspect 2008/2009 revenues will be down. �Recession, duh! �I assume
> >>> they are
> >>> > >> trying to protect the very large overhead costs that have developed
> >>> by
> >>> > >> creating a financial cushion to cover their salaries/expenses
>
> >>> > >> > CL
>
> >>> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > >> > From: save...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> >>> save...@googlegroups.com] On
> >>> > >> Behalf Of Mojo
> >>> > >> > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:12 PM
> >>> > >> > To: save...@googlegroups.com
> >>> > >> > Subject: Re: [Save WRVU!] Re: letter to the editor
>
> >>> > >> > I thought I had read somewhere recently that the only full-time
> >>> salaried
> >>> > >> VSC staff is Chris Carroll. Obviously more investigation needs to be
> >>> done,
> >>> > >> or someone needs to post the source of the actual facts.
> >>> > >> > --> Support WRVU 91.1 FM, Nashville, TN <--
>
> >>> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > >> �> From: Pete of Nashville Jumps <wheat...@aol.com>
> >>> > >> > Sender: save...@googlegroups.com
> >>> > >> > Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 12:54:22
> >>> > >> > To: Save WRVU!<save...@googlegroups.com>
> >>> > >> > Reply-To: save...@googlegroups.com
> >>> > >> > Subject: [Save WRVU!] Re: letter to the editor
>
> >>> > >> > The more I think about this the madder I get. �Does VSC really pay
> >>> all
> >>> > >> > seven salaries? �If so, it is insane to put the radio station up
> >>> for
> >>> > >> > sale before cutting staff. �Cutting staff is always a rotten
> >>> trick,
> >>> > >> > but keeping all seven in place while eliminating the radio station
> >>> is
> >>> > >> > ridiculous. �Someone tell me if i'm getting mad based on a lack of
> >>> > >> > information.
>
> >>> > >> > Pete
>
> >>> > >> > On Oct 4, 2:36 pm, "M. Scott Cardone"
> >>> > >> > <michael.s.card...@vanderbilt.edu> wrote:
> >>> > >> > > Fixed some grammatical stuff and changed some wording. I think
> >>> this is
> >>> > >> what
> >>> > >> > > I'm going to submit:
>
> >>> > >> > > To the editor:
> >>> > >> > > � � I read today in the Hustler a letter by Joel Walden
> >>> describing the
> >>> > >> > > potential benefits of the potential sale of 91.1 FM, and I was
> >>> frankly
> >>> > >> > > shocked at the
>
> ...
>
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-- Justin St. P. Walsh, RPA Assistant professor School of Art 123 Art Building Louisiana State University Baton Rouge, LA 70803 Phone: +1.225.333.0346 Fax: +1.225.578.5424
I think the station would be in shambles if it were not for Carl. Not sure why he's being put in a bad light.
Carl’s “salary” is not included in the salaries and compensation of the VSC 990. His small amount of pay is listed as a separate expense. He is required, but only serves as a consultant.
C