ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS IS TO SAVE WRVU

[molly]

Hey Everyone,

Jan 12 the station is on sale. I thought of a new campaign to push
people to lobby the school and WRVU. ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS /
CHANNAKAH / KWANZAA / FESTIVUS IS TO SAVE *WRVU*!!!!

Tell friends, family, post on Twitter, Facebook, send email to your
entire address book, if you are involved any listserv's or message
boards- get your virtual friends involved. Who cares if it isn't
limited to Nashville activism?

BEFORE LAUNCHING THIS CAMPAIGN:
Need to update the www.savewrvu.com website

***Update the news - say its going on sale soon!
***Streamline the "how you can help page" -- I think we should focus
on "who to lobby" and video testimonials (both about RVU in specific
and college radio in general). Can we please get DJ's to start
posting some testimonials to get us started?

Time for action is now, everyone. I know people have finals (including
me) - but even 15 minutes a day of ACTIVISM could make the difference.

THIS MATTERS! WE NEED TO SAVE THE STATION FOR REAL. WHO NEEDS
ANOTHER SCARF AND MITTEN SET. ASK TO SAVE WRVU!!!!

Yours in hope & action,
Molly

[Steve Haruch]

How do you know it's Jan 12?

[Mojo]

There is some confusion on this. At first, the assumption is that WRVU was not up for sale, and that this was a feedback gathering period for the VSC to help them decide if they should put the station up for sale. Recently, I have been told that this isn't true, and that when the VSC first announced their intentions to sell WRVU, that it went up on the market for sale. After January 12th (the start of the new semester), the VSC is open to entertaining any offers that they receive or have received.

Remember, the VSC considered the concept of selling WRVU for an entire year (as they said) in secret before letting anyone related to WRVU itself know about the idea. So I think that they are quite intent in at least seeing what kind of offers, if any, that they receive. Also remember that the voting board of the VSC is made up of 3 faculty and 5 students. It is a given that the 3 faculty members are fully in support of selling the station and funding their growing budget (of which WRVU is a fraction, it just, happens to be worth a lot, unfortunately to those of us that would like WRVU to continue to exist). So that's 3 of 8 votes. We know that at least probably all 5 students would also support the sale. One of the voting student board members stated at a recent VSC meeting that "WRVU is a total waste of a frequency". So much for impartiality. Oh, by the way, all of the voting student board members have direct ties to Vandy media outlets other than WRVU, and would directly benefit from the sale. These are the facts as I know them.

If anyone knows any different, please let us know. I base everything on facts, and I want to know the facts.

--Mojo

[whea...@aol.com]

I was quite struck by this, from Mojo's email below:

 

"One of the voting student board members stated at a recent VSC meeting that 'WRVU is a total waste of a frequency.'"

 

Okay.  So why would he or she say this?  I'm guessing it wasn't pure free-floating meanness.  What are some reasons a student might say this?  Let's get honest with ourselves.  I'll be blunt about the two possible reasons that seem obvious to me.  Basically, I'm stating personal preferences that I suspect are largely shared by our audience.   

 

1.  Students are not particularly interested in the music played on the station?

 

Certainly seems possible.  I've said before that I think we focus too much (in non-specialty shows) on current releases.  This gives us cred with the college radio hip-ocracy, but I don't really think it means much to the student listenership.  When we limit ourselves to recent releases, we cut ourselves off from a whole lot of great music--not typical "oldies," not top 40, just great music that is unlike what is currently being made.  And a whole lot of that music is just as unfamiliar to the student listener--holds just as much potential for pleasant surprise--as a collection of bleeps, blips and mumbles from some duo that came into existence last Thursday.  Which brings me to my second point about the music we play, which is much more subjective.  Isn't a lot of this current indie stuff really BORING?  Precious?  Amateurish?  A collection of electronically produced insect noises interspersed with incoherent samples of a blues singer here; a slow, rhythmless whine over half-hearted piano playing there.  Is it really a surprise that people don't get interested in these recordings?  I realize we're talking about a matter of taste, of course--I personally have no interest in DJ Ron's dance music, but I know that plenty of people do and clearly he is great at what he does.  But for some of the more minimalist, or rhythmically inept, or thin-voiced and whiny stuff we play, I have a hard time imagining that there is or will ever be much of a listener market, among students or Nashvillians.  I think they would like to hear more music that really rocks/swings/pounds, more really good singers, more well-played solos, more songs that address the world rather than their own navels.  (Each song wouldn't have to contain all four of those virtues, of course.)  I believe that we could make a conscious effort to balance our offerings without "selling out" and becoming an oldies station.  At worst--and I don't think this is bad at all--we would be like an imaginative repertory theatre company, picking through history from antiquity to present to find great music that is little heard.  The cutting edge is not strictly a function of time.

 

2.  The quality of presentation turns them off?

 

A love of excess amateurism is, I think, a minority taste.  (Chris Crofton based his entire show on it, but he is a genius.)  Most people don't really want to hear five to ten seconds of dead air between songs.  They don't want a DJ to pump them up for a song, stop talking, and then start the song only after ten seconds of silence.  They don't want to hear a song stopped in the middle by mistake.  (Paying attention to what you're doing is a given.)  They don't want to hear a DJ say that the next DJ doesn't appear to be coming in after all, and thus Hal will have to take over.  They don't want to hear rambling, repetitive talk breaks that aren't funny (rambling talk breaks that ARE funny can be fine, but funny's a tricky thing).  They don't want to hear a beep in the middle of a song that says the DJ has just received email (I swear I have heard this).  If they get interested in a certain show, they certainly don't want to be stood up by that DJ week after week (especially when the DJ sends a substitute request much too late to actually get a sub).  I feel pretty confident about all those assertions.  Here's a few matters of personal taste that I do think may be shared:  I think it's a bit excessive to talk after every single song.  I think it is best not to tell people that they really should go out an buy such-and-such record (maybe point out what's good about it, and let them make up their own minds).  If you do your show from a computer or iPod, do what you can to eliminate dead air between selections--momentum on the radio drops like lead when a song ends and nothing follows within a split second.  Maybe bring BOTH your computer and iPod, if necessary.  If you're working with CDs it should be no problem to cut out dead air.      

 

We need to do more than publicize the station--we need to IMPROVE the station.  These are some of my ideas for how. 

 

Pete

Nashville Jumps

[Pete of Nashville Jumps]

I was quite struck by this, from Mojo's email below:

"One of the voting student board members stated at a recent VSC

> > On Dec 5, 2010, at 10:50 AM, molly <mollh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >  Hey Everyone,
>
> >> Jan 12 the station is on sale.  I thought of a new campaign to push
> >> people to lobby the school and WRVU.  ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS /
> >> CHANNAKAH / KWANZAA / FESTIVUS IS TO SAVE *WRVU*!!!!
>
> >> Tell friends, family, post on Twitter, Facebook, send email to your
> >> entire address book, if you are involved any listserv's or message
> >> boards- get your virtual friends involved.  Who cares if it isn't
> >> limited to Nashville activism?
>
> >> BEFORE LAUNCHING THIS CAMPAIGN:
> >> Need to update thewww.savewrvu.comwebsite
>
> >> ***Update the news - say its going on sale soon!
> >> ***Streamline the "how you can help page" -- I think we should focus
> >> on "who to lobby" and video testimonials (both about RVU in specific
> >> and college radio in general).  Can we please get DJ's to start
> >> posting some testimonials to get us started?
>
> >> Time for action is now, everyone. I know people have finals (including
> >> me) - but even 15 minutes a day of ACTIVISM could make the difference.
>
> >> THIS MATTERS!  WE NEED TO SAVE THE STATION FOR REAL.  WHO NEEDS
> >> ANOTHER SCARF AND MITTEN SET.  ASK TO SAVE WRVU!!!!
>
> >> Yours in hope & action,

> >> Molly- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[Kelly R. Tobakos]

In response to Pete:

I have to say I don't agree with your opinions regarding the music played on WRVU, but I absolutely agree with you about the quality of presentation at WRVU.  I am a student, and I try to make my show as professional as possible.  I know a LOT of other students do the same.  I have heard many student shows that are really, really great. 

However, I have had to change my radio dial in my car from WRVU numerous times due to the fact that I am embarrased by the students I hear talking.  People often just talk too much - I think it is important to play music, not simply go on an on about a song for 5 minutes before playing it.  Additionally, it is not interesting for listeners to hear DJs joking around with their friends on the air.  While it may be funny to you, listeners don't find it entertaining or interesting to hear you laughing during promos or simply goofing off throughout the show.  The humor does NOT translate.  I'm not saying we should be perfect, but it is important to try to keep in mind what listeners will be thinking as you are on air.  Rambling & unprofessionalism will cause people to change the dial from WRVU.  The quality of presentation at WRVU can certainly be improved upon.

Kelly

[Mojo]

I appreciate Pete's ideas and believe at the very least that this type
of discussion is always very valuable, if the station continues to
exist. Any improvement is usually a good thing, at any time.

While I do believe in general "Continuous Improvement" in all areas of
life... at the present time I am more directly concerned something
else here. As was mentioned, this is the fact that in a recent VSC
meeting one of the voting student VSC board members stated publicly
that "WRVU is a total waste of a frequency." Add this statement to the
fact that none of the 5 voting student VSC board members has any
direct ties to WRVU, and that they DO have direct ties to other media
outlets that would benefit from the sale of WRVU, and there is not
even a slight illusion that an impending vote on selling WRVU could or
would in any way be impartial.

Definition of impartiality: Impartiality is a principle of justice
holding that decisions should be based on objective criteria, rather
than on the basis of bias, prejudice, or preferring the benefit to one
person over another for improper reasons.

Mojo

On Dec 7, 12:02 pm, "Kelly R. Tobakos" <kelly.toba...@vanderbilt.edu>
wrote:

> In response to Pete:
>
> I have to say I don't agree with your opinions regarding the music played on
> WRVU, but I absolutely agree with you about the quality of presentation at
> WRVU.  I am a student, and I try to make my show as professional as
> possible.  I know a LOT of other students do the same.  I have heard many
> student shows that are really, really great.
>
> However, I have had to change my radio dial in my car from WRVU numerous
> times due to the fact that I am embarrased by the students I hear talking.
> People often just talk too much - I think it is important to play music, not
> simply go on an on about a song for 5 minutes before playing it.
> Additionally, it is not interesting for listeners to hear DJs joking around
> with their friends on the air.  While it may be funny to you, listeners
> don't find it entertaining or interesting to hear you laughing during promos
> or simply goofing off throughout the show.  The humor does NOT translate.
> I'm not saying we should be perfect, but it is important to try to keep in
> mind what listeners will be thinking as you are on air.  Rambling &
> unprofessionalism will cause people to change the dial from WRVU.  The
> quality of presentation at WRVU can certainly be improved upon.
>
> Kelly
>

> > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Steve Haruch <shar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> How do you know it's Jan 12?
>

[Mojo]

Other potential ideas, suggestions, etc. to improve the station, take
them for what they're worth to you. Or ignore them.

1. Decrease the DJ HAL's auto-rotation time. (And I have to say that
in my opinion, DJ HAL's auto-rotation mix right now is pretty good.
I'm sometimes fooled into thinking there's an actual DJ on the air for
a song or two...)

How? Everyone follow the guidelines set out in the WRVU Manual. In
fact this principle could be used to improve WRVU in many ways. It's
all in the manual. If you can't do your show, ALWAYS post a sub-
request. Post your sub-request as soon as possible, not at the last
minute.


2. Answer the phone!

Many times I have called to tell someone that I enjoy their show, or
to make a request. Many times nobody ever answers the phone.


3. Take requests, and try your best to fill them as soon as possible!

Tell people to call in. Tell them to make requests. This ties into
answering the phone. Sure, some shows would have difficulty in playing
any general request that comes in. Specialty shows in particular. But
I'll often stretch the boundaries of my show "genre" to accommodate a
request. Even if you can't fill the request during your current show,
find the song and play it on your next show, and tell the listeners/
callers that you'll do so. LISTENERS LOVE TO CALL IN AND HEAR THEIR
REQUESTS PLAYED, hear us say that it was a request, sometimes mention
their first name, etc. They remember this. If you have a computer,
these days it is fairly simple to field just about any requests on the
fly, even if they aren't in the library (or if you can't find them in
the library). You can use the Production Room computer, and play from
there! I take each request as a challenge and try to find the music.


4. Diversify auto-rotation even more.

Yes, this has been discussed at length in the past, and as I said
above, at least in my opinion, auto-rotation is quite good at the
moment. I think it would be GREAT if each current WRVU show were able
to provide a CD full of carefully programmed (as in FCC compliant!)
music to add to rotation each semester, in addition to what's already
in auto-rotation. That would allow the auto-rotation to include a even
more diverse mix, reflecting the current shows on WRVU, at least a
little bit. And there is a difference between rotation and auto-
rotation, although putting the rotation music in auto-rotation is an
idea too, and may in fact be in place already


5. Live in-studio music.

I've always been a fan of live music in the studio. If we had live
bands/artists on the air continuously, I believe it would greatly
improve our station, our community connection and outreach. It is not
difficult to do, once you get the hang of it, and it always sounds
better over the air than I think it will. I would be happy to offer
advice or help anyone who would like help when having a live band,
artist, etc. in the studio for the first time. It is a bit difficult
to do all by yourself.

There are a million more, this is the tip of the iceberg.

--Mojo

On Dec 7, 11:01 am, wheat...@aol.com wrote:
> I was quite struck by this, from Mojo's email below:
>
> "One of the voting student board members stated at a recent VSC meeting that 'WRVU is a total waste of a frequency.'"
>
> Okay.  So why would he or she say this?  I'm guessing it wasn't pure free-floating meanness.  What are some reasons a student might say this?  Let's get honest with ourselves.  I'll be blunt about the two possible reasons that seem obvious to me.  Basically, I'm stating personal preferences that I suspect are largely shared by our audience.    
>
> 1.  Students are not particularly interested in the music played on the station?
>
> Certainly seems possible.  I've said before that I think we focus too much (in non-specialty shows) on current releases.  This gives us cred with the college radio hip-ocracy, but I don't really think it means much to the student listenership.  When we limit ourselves to recent releases, we cut ourselves off from a whole lot of great music--not typical "oldies," not top 40, just great music that is unlike what is currently being made.  And a whole lot of that music is just as unfamiliar to the student listener--holds just as much potential for pleasant surprise--as a collection of bleeps, blips and mumbles from some duo that came into existence last Thursday.  Which brings me to my second point about the music we play, which is much more subjective.  Isn't a lot of this current indie stuff really BORING?  Precious?  Amateurish?  A collection of electronically produced insect noises interspersed with incoherent samples of a blues singer here; a slow, rhythmless whine over half-hearted piano playing there.  Is it really a surprise that people don't get interested in these recordings?  I realize we're talking about a matter of taste, of course--I personally have no interest in DJ Ron's dance music, but I know that plenty of people do and clearly he is great at what he does.  But for some of the more minimalist, or rhythmically inept, or thin-voiced and whiny stuff we play, I have a hard time imagining that there is or will ever be much of a listener market, among students or Nashvillians.  I think they would like to hear more music that really rocks/swings/pounds, more really good singers, more well-played solos, more songs that address the world rather than their own navels.  (Each song wouldn't have to contain all four of those virtues, of course.)  I believe that we could make a conscious effort to balance our offerings without "selling out" and becoming an oldies station.  At worst--and I don't think this is bad at all--we would be like an imaginative repertory theatre company, picking through history from antiquity to present to find great music that is little heard.  The cutting edge is not strictly a function of time.
>
> 2.  The quality of presentation turns them off?
>
> A love of excess amateurism is, I think, a minority taste.  (Chris Crofton based his entire show on it, but he is a genius.)  Most people don't really want to hear five to ten seconds of dead air between songs.  They don't want a DJ to pump them up for a song, stop talking, and then start the song only after ten seconds of silence.  They don't want to hear a song stopped in the middle by mistake.  (Paying attention to what you're doing is a given.)  They don't want to hear a DJ say that the next DJ doesn't appear to be coming in after all, and thus Hal will have to take over.  They don't want to hear rambling, repetitive talk breaks that aren't funny (rambling talk breaks that ARE funny can be fine, but funny's a tricky thing).  They don't want to hear a beep in the middle of a song that says the DJ has just received email (I swear I have heard this).  If they get interested in a certain show, they certainly don't want to be stood up by that DJ week after week (especially when the DJ sends a substitute request much too late to actually get a sub).  I feel pretty confident about all those assertions.  Here's a few matters of personal taste that I do think may be shared:  I think it's a bit excessive to talk after every single song.  I think it is best not to tell people that they really should go out an buy such-and-such record (maybe point out what's good about it, and let them make up their own minds).  If you do your show from a computer or iPod, do what you can to eliminate dead air between selections--momentum on the radio drops like lead when a song ends and nothing follows within a split second.  Maybe bring BOTH your computer and iPod, if necessary.  If you're working with CDs it should be no problem to cut out dead air.      
>
> We need to do more than publicize the station--we need to IMPROVE the station.  These are some of my ideas for how.  
>
> Pete
> Nashville Jumps
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mojo <mojo.spoon...@gmail.com>
> To: save...@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tue, Dec 7, 2010 1:07 am
> Subject: Re: [Save WRVU!] ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS IS TO SAVE WRVU
>
> There is some confusion on this. At first, the assumption is that WRVU was not up for sale, and that this was a feedback gathering period for the VSC to help them decide if they should put the station up for sale. Recently, I have been told that this isn't true, and that when the VSC first announced their intentions to sell WRVU, that it went up on the market for sale. After January 12th (the start of the new semester), the VSC is open to entertaining any offers that they receive or have received.
>
> Remember, the VSC considered the concept of selling WRVU for an entire year (as they said) in secret before letting anyone related to WRVU itself know about the idea. So I think that they are quite intent in at least seeing what kind of offers, if any, that they receive. Also remember that the voting board of the VSC is made up of 3 faculty and 5 students. It is a given that the 3 faculty members are fully in support of selling the station and funding their growing budget (of which WRVU is a fraction, it just, happens to be worth a lot, unfortunately to those of us that would like WRVU to continue to exist). So that's 3 of 8 votes. We know that at least probably all 5 students would also support the sale. One of the voting student board members stated at a recent VSC meeting that "WRVU is a total waste of a frequency". So much for impartiality. Oh, by the way, all of the voting student board members have direct ties to Vandy media outlets other than WRVU, and would directly benefit from the sale. These are the facts as I know them.
>
> If anyone knows any different, please let us know. I base everything on facts, and I want to know the facts.
>
> --Mojo
>

> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Steve Haruch <shar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> How do you know it's Jan 12?
>

[Mojo]

By the way, please don't (this is for everyone) quote messages from
the Save WRVU Google Group on the WRVU-STAFF or WRVU-TALK list without
first consulting with the author. The reason this Google Group exists
is because the WRVU-STAFF and WRVU-TALK lists are basically controlled
by and read by the VSC. Sure, this Google Group is an open group and
it is quite possible that VSC members, etc. are subscribed, but the
point was to not post everything directly on a VSC controlled & read
forum.

Even though I have always been looking for and hopefully stating facts
and using basic logic in my information and posts, I can't help but
feel a bit paranoid in speaking up against the idea of selling WRVU.
Because the VSC is the only entity that decides who gets to be a
Community DJ or not.

This is a real catch-22 situation for Community DJs. On one hand, I'm
speaking my mind and doing all I can to help save WRVU, because I
really believe in WRVU and that it should be allowed to continue to
exist as a real radio station. Really what do I have to lose? If I
voice my opinion, speak my mind and try to help save the station, I
won't have a show anyway because there will be no radio station, no
91.1 FM WRVU. But if I do speak up, and the station gets "saved", then
what? I feel that it is possible that I may never have a show again
anyway, because I spoke up about and tried to save WRVU, something I
care about very much, but my opinion may offend those that control my
ability to have a show on WRVU. I hope this is not true.

As I have said before and I will repeat it again and again. As a
Community DJ, it is, always has been and always will be an HONOR for
me to be a DJ on WRVU. I am very thankful for every show I am able to
broadcast. Along the same lines, I feel that because of the fact that
right from the beginning and continuing to this day Vanderbilt
students built and provided the value to the station that WRVU has
today, that it is their RIGHT to be a DJ on WRVU and for the station
to continue to exist. The value of WRVU I speak of is both the
monetary/financial value and also the very important non-monetary and
harder to measure (but just as or more important!) value that the
station holds.

In closing, I really hope that one of the original purposes of the
VSC, which was to give the Vanderbilt Media FREEDOM OF SPEECH in
reporting and broadcasting, is still held in high enough regard that
me voicing my opinions and speaking out against the sale of the
station does not automatically limit my potential future with WRVU.

Steve Greer, a.k.a. DJ Mojo

On Dec 7, 11:01 am, wheat...@aol.com wrote:

> I was quite struck by this, from Mojo's email below:
>
> "One of the voting student board members stated at a recent VSC meeting that 'WRVU is a total waste of a frequency.'"
>
> Okay.  So why would he or she say this?  I'm guessing it wasn't pure free-floating meanness.  What are some reasons a student might say this?  Let's get honest with ourselves.  I'll be blunt about the two possible reasons that seem obvious to me.  Basically, I'm stating personal preferences that I suspect are largely shared by our audience.    
>
> 1.  Students are not particularly interested in the music played on the station?
>
> Certainly seems possible.  I've said before that I think we focus too much (in non-specialty shows) on current releases.  This gives us cred with the college radio hip-ocracy, but I don't really think it means much to the student listenership.  When we limit ourselves to recent releases, we cut ourselves off from a whole lot of great music--not typical "oldies," not top 40, just great music that is unlike what is currently being made.  And a whole lot of that music is just as unfamiliar to the student listener--holds just as much potential for pleasant surprise--as a collection of bleeps, blips and mumbles from some duo that came into existence last Thursday.  Which brings me to my second point about the music we play, which is much more subjective.  Isn't a lot of this current indie stuff really BORING?  Precious?  Amateurish?  A collection of electronically produced insect noises interspersed with incoherent samples of a blues singer here; a slow, rhythmless whine over half-hearted piano playing there.  Is it really a surprise that people don't get interested in these recordings?  I realize we're talking about a matter of taste, of course--I personally have no interest in DJ Ron's dance music, but I know that plenty of people do and clearly he is great at what he does.  But for some of the more minimalist, or rhythmically inept, or thin-voiced and whiny stuff we play, I have a hard time imagining that there is or will ever be much of a listener market, among students or Nashvillians.  I think they would like to hear more music that really rocks/swings/pounds, more really good singers, more well-played solos, more songs that address the world rather than their own navels.  (Each song wouldn't have to contain all four of those virtues, of course.)  I believe that we could make a conscious effort to balance our offerings without "selling out" and becoming an oldies station.  At worst--and I don't think this is bad at all--we would be like an imaginative repertory theatre company, picking through history from antiquity to present to find great music that is little heard.  The cutting edge is not strictly a function of time.
>
> 2.  The quality of presentation turns them off?
>
> A love of excess amateurism is, I think, a minority taste.  (Chris Crofton based his entire show on it, but he is a genius.)  Most people don't really want to hear five to ten seconds of dead air between songs.  They don't want a DJ to pump them up for a song, stop talking, and then start the song only after ten seconds of silence.  They don't want to hear a song stopped in the middle by mistake.  (Paying attention to what you're doing is a given.)  They don't want to hear a DJ say that the next DJ doesn't appear to be coming in after all, and thus Hal will have to take over.  They don't want to hear rambling, repetitive talk breaks that aren't funny (rambling talk breaks that ARE funny can be fine, but funny's a tricky thing).  They don't want to hear a beep in the middle of a song that says the DJ has just received email (I swear I have heard this).  If they get interested in a certain show, they certainly don't want to be stood up by that DJ week after week (especially when the DJ sends a substitute request much too late to actually get a sub).  I feel pretty confident about all those assertions.  Here's a few matters of personal taste that I do think may be shared:  I think it's a bit excessive to talk after every single song.  I think it is best not to tell people that they really should go out an buy such-and-such record (maybe point out what's good about it, and let them make up their own minds).  If you do your show from a computer or iPod, do what you can to eliminate dead air between selections--momentum on the radio drops like lead when a song ends and nothing follows within a split second.  Maybe bring BOTH your computer and iPod, if necessary.  If you're working with CDs it should be no problem to cut out dead air.      
>
> We need to do more than publicize the station--we need to IMPROVE the station.  These are some of my ideas for how.  
>
> Pete
> Nashville Jumps
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mojo <mojo.spoon...@gmail.com>
> To: save...@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tue, Dec 7, 2010 1:07 am
> Subject: Re: [Save WRVU!] ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS IS TO SAVE WRVU
>
> There is some confusion on this. At first, the assumption is that WRVU was not up for sale, and that this was a feedback gathering period for the VSC to help them decide if they should put the station up for sale. Recently, I have been told that this isn't true, and that when the VSC first announced their intentions to sell WRVU, that it went up on the market for sale. After January 12th (the start of the new semester), the VSC is open to entertaining any offers that they receive or have received.
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> Remember, the VSC considered the concept of selling WRVU for an entire year (as they said) in secret before letting anyone related to WRVU itself know about the idea. So I think that they are quite intent in at least seeing what kind of offers, if any, that they receive. Also remember that the voting board of the VSC is made up of 3 faculty and 5 students. It is a given that the 3 faculty members are fully in support of selling the station and funding their growing budget (of which WRVU is a fraction, it just, happens to be worth a lot, unfortunately to those of us that would like WRVU to continue to exist). So that's 3 of 8 votes. We know that at least probably all 5 students would also support the sale. One of the voting student board members stated at a recent VSC meeting that "WRVU is a total waste of a frequency". So much for impartiality. Oh, by the way, all of the voting student board members have direct ties to Vandy media outlets other than WRVU, and would directly benefit from the sale. These are the facts as I know them.
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> If anyone knows any different, please let us know. I base everything on facts, and I want to know the facts.
>
> --Mojo
>

> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Steve Haruch <shar...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> How do you know it's Jan 12?
>

[Whea...@aol.com]

Good point, Mojo.  I apologize for putting your quote out on WRVU-TALK without asking.  I certainly hope that VSC realizes the station is better off with dedicated people like you, and that you've worked to make it better for years, long before anybody thought of selling the license.  It's not as if you arose just to be thorn in the VSC's side!  If WRVU continues to broadcast it will need people like you.

 

Pete  

[Mojo]

No problem, Pete, and thank you. It gave me an opportunity to make a
point that I've wanted to make for a long time.
--Mojo

On Dec 13, 1:29 am, Wheat...@aol.com wrote:
> Good point, Mojo.  I apologize for putting your quote out on WRVU-TALK  
> without asking.  I certainly hope that VSC realizes the station is better  off
> with dedicated people like you, and that you've worked to make it better for
>  years, long before anybody thought of selling the license.  It's not as if
>  you arose just to be thorn in the VSC's side!  If WRVU continues to  
> broadcast it will need people like you.
>
> Pete  
>
> In a message dated 12/12/2010 11:22:42 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
>

> facts, and I want to know the facts. ...
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