Fwd: [CCSF WiSE] 12 years a slave movie and topic, everyone welcome

[Abel Silva]

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Subject: [CCSF WiSE] 12 years a slave movie and topic, everyone welcome
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[MAGDALENA SOUL]

This still does not work but that is ok
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[Ethan Davidson]

me too.

[Abel Silva]

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[Abel Silva]

We'll have a movie showing monthly

[Abel Silva]

Time of the movie is at 1pm. Sorry

[Ethan Davidson]

locaion? Day?

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[Abel Silva]

So sorry, did not see your e mail on time.  We originally planned for 2:50pm at the Union.  The main planner changed it to 1pm, but we had technical issues to resolve with getting the equipment to work and ended up starting at the original time we had said.  Anyways, I think there will be anothe showing of the movie on the week we come back from Spring Break.

We had an interesting discussion afterwards, about the effectivity, or otherwise of the concept of law as a means for change, attitudes that proliferate our social insanity, Puerto Rico as a US colony, criminalization of the disadvantaged, how slavery is an ongoing situation around the World (including in the US), and possible means to deal with all of it.  Some held a, relatively, conservative approach with continuing to count on changes within institutions, the legal system, electoral politics, and fighting administration for the resources to fill basic needs now for people in the US.  Others (of us) felt that the change needs to come from within, first; working with what we have at hand, as friends, to aid and support the provision of our main needs as best we can, by setting aside those aspects of our lifestyles that continue to feed competition, superficial success, obssessive spending in luxury, protagonism, and using political causes for economic and political gains.  Furthermore, it's a focus on motivating all the people who are concerned about associated situations of violence and limitation, both locally, as well as in other geographic areas, to unite and commit more time to co-create freedom practices, and get a better understanding of the failures that movements have faced so we can strengthen those areas.  Do you think the practice of nurturing these themes as an ongoing communicative forum? What's your take on all this?

Guario

[Ethan Davidson]

Me?

Well, good. Just as long as it is clearly pt out as a discussion group, and people know it's an action planning group, I think it's a good thing.

I've noticed that a lot of people want to take up valuable time at action planning meetings talking about more abstract things. And, it has crossed my mind that if there were a place clearly intended for dissuasion of abstract themes, it might be easier to leave planning  meetings just for planning.

So, I think you may be onto something here. Plus, it sounds like good, mind building fun.

Cheers.

Ethan

[MAGDALENA SOUL]

Dear Save CCSF:
Sorry I have not been able to attend the meetings recently.I have been
very busy with the enrollment campaign. Anyway, I think these
conversations should be extended. I have so busy just focusing on
saving ccsf. Maybe next semester ccsf will be saved and I will have
more time for these discussions.
maria
mcr...@mail.ccsf.edu

Maria Crispi

[Abel Silva]

I realize that in the World of delimited, specific, and specialized groups, goals, and disciplines, action and reflection, in sync, may seem like an unclear way of going about working together.  However, there's the alternative of "process", especially helpful in dealing with such a variety of people with differing class, race, value systems, academic preparation, and experience.  When acting, everyone needs to agree on the page the group is going to tread on.  And if everyone can't agree, why compete and not integrate a variety of issues to work on? One by one, of course.  There's also the factor of schedules, and how inspired the people involved are in the discussion at hand, which is a process, in of itself, that can be built up;  that is, with the patient facilitation of leaders interested in looking at the experience, also, as an opportunity to aid younger talent in maturing their own leadership skills (especially if we consider the present path of our education, perhaps, it is indeed a worthwhile action,  to develop  a culture of popular education-vs. institutionalized-amongst CCSF students).  Anyways, not everyone is aware of the content of the issues discussed last week, which is an important stepping stone to work on, as well as the motivation to do something about them.  Also, communication amongst people of associated concerns, like a sustainable political culture and human dignity, I feel, is key in order to be able to evolve our minds,  beyond the fractured competition of the very authority that we're trying to free ourselves from.
 So...basically, that's why I wrote to you in the first place.  I appreciate you giving me the opportunity to remember where we are all coming from, and being able to articulate it to other concerned minds, yes?   Shall we continue co-creating?

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