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I was wondering if one of you might be able to help me as I'm a little confused. I'm looking to make a preset pack to share with friends and followers and hit this error message when trying to use my presets for testing.
Here are my steps:
- I've created my presets off the back of RAW images imported into Lightroom. (Mainly, Canon and Lumix RAW photos)
- When attempting to use a preset for the first time on a picture that wasn't taken on either Canon or Lumix, I get the following error message appear: "This preset includes a profile that was made for a different camera which cannot be applied to this photo. All of the compatible enhancements from this preset will be applied to your photo"
My question is:
Is this normal, expected behaviour? If I were to purchase a preset pack from another creator, would I get the same error message if they had created their presets using an image from a camera I do not own? Or is there some form of profile workaround for this problem to avoid this prompt appearing should anyone else download my preset? I'm looking to make my preset pack "universal" and not "camera specific".
Many thanks,
Kyle
It means you checked the Profile checkbox when you created the preset and used a profile that was only available for certain cameras. For example, Canon has a profile called "Camera Standard" but Olympus doesn't, so it would flag up this error. Or you might create a preset using a raw file and set the profile to "Adobe Color" because that's a safe bet for most raw files, but there's no such profile for rendered photos, so JPEGs would still flag up the same message.
Hi @Victoria Bampton LR Queen,
Thanks so much for your swift response, I appreciate it.
With regards to the profile section at the point of preset creation, I believe I had "Adobe Colour" set as a default and in fact I had not chosen to modify this setting, I believe it was already set to that when I made my presets.
Are you saying that there is a way to create a preset without the Profile checkbox ticked? And therefore it would become generic? I don't see that option available to me in Lightroom 5.4 but then again, I'm also quite new to this.
If the profile isn't included, then the resulting look of the preset could change quite dramatically depending on what they already have selected, so most developers use Adobe Color as the standard and just say the presets are designed for raw photos. There are very few raw files that don't have an Adobe Color profile.
- A preset generated from a Raw Canon M50 (CR3 file) and which included Adobe Colour Profile, would only work immediately on other Canon photographs taken with the same camera. The error would appear if applied to any other photo taken with a different brand of camera, (Lumix for example).
- Once I removed the Adobe Colour Profile from the preset, it then became generic. This could then be applied to any other picture taken from any camera and it would just work, straight away. No error.
It seems as though specific camera brand information is stored within the preset if you select a profile, (such as Adobe Colour). This is what is tripping up any other photograph when trying to be applied to it for me.
As you have mentioned, I could simply remove the profile and in my tests, that solves the problem for me. But this does open me up to other users default Lightroom settings and that would wildly change the effect of my presets as a result as you mentioned.
1) Create the preset with a Lightroom Profile attached. This will create a more consistent preset but will likely trip up anyone trying to apply my preset to photographs they have taken on another camera brand and will trigger the errror.
2) Create the preset without the Lightroom Profile attached. This removes the camera specific information and makes the preset generic, but does open it up to other users getting very different results when applying it to their photographs, (potentially).
If you clear the error prompt you won't get it on mobile again obviously. I'm sure you're aware of that, but I had to keep clearing my app data in order to re-see this prompt to check when it triggers.
So in my findings I've seen that the Adobe Raw profiles and the Camera matching profiles (with the exception of Adobe Standard Profile) are at fault. I suppose these profiles somehow carry more camera-specific information which is flagging up on the mobile end as not compatible?
I'd be very interested to see your findings and if they match up with my own. I'd imagine you have more camera types at your disposal than myself so perhaps your findings will create a clearer picture.
Hi Kyle. You have been busy! I just tried your preset on 8 different camera brands on iOS and none of them threw the error, which is the behaviour I was expecting. My Android device has a dead battery (it's only used for testing) so I'll get that recharged and test on there too.
I am an Android user myself, so that was where I've seen the errors, (providing I'd not dismissed the error prompt to never show again). Thank you for trying on iOS and for mentioning you will further try it on Android platform.
If all seems well on your end with this, I won't like to further use up any of your time on this issue as it might be a local issue to myself, device/platform specific issue or something that simply won't happen as much as I'd previously thought for other live users.
I was able to import all my presents from Lightroom Classic, to Lightroom CLOUD. I did this to use my presets on my mobile devices. Right now I have access to all these presents on my iPhone with no problems, but I am not sure if I can even use them on my iPad Pro.
Apparently my issue is with my iPad Pro. After doing some research, I was not able to find a single video or comments on how to use presents on an ipad specifically. I see there is a ton of videos on how to use presents on your phone, but not iPad.
Your presets are always a great starting point. I know this is an old blog but, in the text you mentioned they adjusted the Vibrance, Clarity and Vignetting settings. But it does not appear that the Nikon ones do. Is this missing or am I missing something?
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