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Jasmine Lemaitre

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Jul 25, 2024, 2:32:31 AM7/25/24
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First of all, my device seems to work great generally. My only issue is WPA3. It doesn't seem to work properly. If I leave it disabled, everything is great and I never need to reboot. However, if I turn on WPA3, the next day I'll have a handful of devices that can see the network but cannot connect.

As far as I know, some devices cannot connect to the mixed WPA2/WPA3-Personal type, it may then cause some unknown issue when connecting. WPA2-PSK/AES security should be secure enough for the wireless connections, it is suggested to choose that if you are experiencing an issue with the WPA3 security.

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Devices that have had issues so far when WPA3 is enabled: iPhone SE 2 (ax), Oculus Quest (1, ac), Google Pixel 2 (ac). Issue is always corrected by a router restart, but WPA3 enabled seems to cause a random subset of devices to fail to connect after a day or two. The subset of devices with an issue doesn't seem to be stable, but I've not tested every client when the issue emerges.

If I disable WPA3 as shown in the above image, I don't have any issues. It would be nice to have the additional security, such as protection of management frames and forward secrecy, but it's satisfactory for home use. I thought that I would contribute by reporting my observations.

Hi! My issue did return after a few days. It looks like the DHCP server on the device might stop responding after a while for reasons unclear. I'm not sure if this is the same issue that you are having or even the same issue I had earlier. I captured network activity that seems to show this, and I'm working with a support person on their side to understand better what's going on.

I had similar problems with my AX11000. With WPA3 turned on, devices would initially connect and access the Internet without issue. But after some time (about a day or so and perhaps when the DHCP lease had expired), waking the device would show that the wifi was connected to the AX11000, but there would be no Internet access. (Other devices at the time would be fine, so this is not a system-wide router issue.)

Now I am facing connectivity issues with iOS clients. They sometimes can't connect or randomly disconnect whenever I am using option encryption 'sae-mixed'.
As soon as I switch it back to option encryption 'psk2+ccmp' the issues are gone.

Here is my entry on a totally different device for reference. I do not experience these issues with an iPhone X. Again, I think the issue could be unrelated the settings and perhaps something in a driver or firmware.

Some googling hints that this is only problematic when WPA2/WPA3-mixed mode is combined with enabling extensions like 802.11r/802.11k/802.11v. These are needed to implement Wi-Fi steering (aka seamless roaming). You'd normally enable them when you have several WiFi APs. So it's understandable why not everybody is able to reproduce this issue.

P.S. Interesting observation: when I had an iPad connected with sae-mixed + 802.11r disabled, and then enabled 802.11r (causing the AP Wi-Fi interface reload), the iPad stayed connected (well, I guess re-connected almost instantly) and toggling its Wi-Fi switch off and on again keeps it connected. But if I disconnect for a while and its internal state resets/times out, then it won't be able to connect back at all, reporting the infamous Unable to join the network "***". This seemingly obvious nuance makes troubleshooting a bit more troubling. Beware.

Also see Apple's list of which devices support WPA3: -access-to-wireless-networks-sec8a67fa93d/web
In particular, older iPads don't support WPA3 so they'll try only WPA2.
I had trouble myself with mixed WPA2/WPA3, some iOS devices were fine and some iOS devices were not. Only the ones with WPA3 support hit the problems.

I've also started seeing this and I also have sae-mixed + 802.11r enabled. To add to the workarounds list- I added another wifi network with wpa2 only and connected the ios devices to that ssid. I know it's not ideal either but for me it works better than reverting everything to wpa2 or disabling 11r.

FWIW... I've experimented w mixed mode in the house, to see if I could go full WPA3, and there's ONE item that's not compatible! An older Tivo, 2-3 gen back, thats still used, just won't connect on mixed mode. Im just using just basic mixed mode, no other features.

I've encountered this issue too with firmware 22.03.1 and iPhone X or 8 (fully updated). They won't connect at all when I choose WPA2/WPA3 mixed mode in combination with Fast Roaming enabled. Works fine on an iPhone SE 2022.

I've seen different error messages from the iPhones that won't connect. "This network is operating on Wi-Fi channels in use by several other nearby networks. Restarting the router may allow it to automatically chose the best channel to use, and may resolve this problem." Which is nonsense since my iPhone SE 2022 which I had sitting besides it would connect just fine and I was using free channels. Other messages are (translated) "Cannot connect, come closer and try again" and "Cannot connect".

The iPhone could not connect to WPA2/3 mixed mode at all on both 2.4 or 5ghz bands. I also tried changing 802.11w to see if that would make a difference, just as a test. However, the iPhone could connect to just WPA2 or just WPA3. Very odd indeed.

Mixed mode tends to cause problems with lots of devices, as does protected management frames (802.11w). It's one of the first things I look for when people have difficulty connecting -- turning off 802.11w and/or moving to pure WPA2 or WPA3 will usually resolve the problem.

Based on the need of user @AdminSys , we would like to propose the implementation of a feature that allows users to disable WPA3 transition mode on Nebula. This would allow for a faster and more user-friendly way to disable transition mode and enforce exclusive connections from WPA3-supported devices.

To verify that the transition mode has been successfully disabled after applying the CLI command, you can use a WPA3-non-supported client device for testing purposes. When there is any WPA3 SSID in the environment, a WPA3-non-supported Windows PC should display a connection status as shown in this screenshot:

It's important to note that all Zyxel WPA3-supported access points have the capability to disable the transition mode via the CLI command. For a step-by-step guide on how to disable transition mode using CLI, you can refer to this thread:

I own a Pixma MX922. I cannot connect the printer to the new router. I have tried all the help topics but nothing has worked. The printer seems to recognize the router because the router name comes up in the readout.I select the router by name by the error message says "Failed to connect to the access point". I've rebooted the router and printer and tried uninstalling and reinstalling printer driver/software but it still won't connect.

If the printer detects the router but does not prompt you to enter the wifi password, I would check with your internet provider to see if your router has WPA 3 enabled. If you, have them disable WPA 3 and enable WPA2 and then you can enter the wifi password on the printer. Once that is done, you can enable WPA3 and the printer should still be detected.

If a dual or tri-band router is using the same SSID name for all broadcasts, a single band wireless device (like a printer) might have issues negotiating the connection. Giving each broadcast a unique name can help. The "band-steering" on ISP issued and consumer grade hardware isn't always stellar. There might be another cause, but I'd try to rule it out. Most Canon printers only support 2.4Ghz wireless and WPA/WPA2 security. On some newer WPA3 capable routers, you have to specifically enable backwards compatibility for WPA2 support.

I have problem. My Q80T would not connect to wifi router unless it is downgraded from WPA3 to WPA2 and PMF (protect management frames) is disabled. As a router i am using FritzBox 7590. I am suspecting that there might be bug in router firmware not allowing TV to connect. For that reason i would like to know if there was anyone successful connecting QLED 2020 series TV to wifi where there is WPA3 and PMF enabled.

Dozens and dozens of devices are connected to it without any issue... Except for the Samsung TV! To make it work I have to "downgrade" it to WPA/WPA2!!! That looks like some sort of bug of Samsung TV because it is then after all connected with WPA2

Hey, Same here. I have new UE65TU8500 and to my amazement it did not want to connect to my WiFi until I have switched it from WPA3/WPA2 to WPA2/WPA; meaning I needed to disable WPA3. Go figure. BTW TV has latest version of firmware.

It could be that the issue is actually in the way that AVM implemented WPA3/PMF. If this was actually big samsung issue and this would not work at all with any WPA3 router then we would hear that all over the media. However, this is not happening, and I am not really following German language forums to see if there are more complaints there.

I have the exact same issue, going on weeks now. Support seem completely unable to help. Two base stations down, with no end in sight. Reset, add/remove. Nothing works. Anyone find a solution to this?

Unreal. It worked. So my learning here is that there is not much use in working with support. Endless hours working with support personnel, and this never came up. I had some hope that this would have solved my Sense Hub issue (Wyze Sense Hub with random static and unable to add sensors - #7 by frps) as well, but no such luck. Thanks @Omgitstony, much appreciated,

Nice! Which setting did you have to change? and what Linksys router are you using so folks in the future with this issue can find your replies and hopefully help them fix this issue also. Thanks for the update and thanks in advance for the other details to help the future community!

figures out how to use WPA2. With WPA3 enabled, it just flashes blue. I have 8 WyzeCams (4 indoor and 4 outdoor), and this is fairly unacceptable as a workaround. WPA3 has been around for at least 4 years. Surely Wyze Labs can just mak

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