Please Dissolve Sarc or remove me and nimit from it

[aditya dogra]

Hi Team of the TPR's,
               Few of you might be thinking i am getting crazy or something else.  Please consider first one  that i am crazy and i was crazy . It started when a person from your batch "Amit Kumar Pandey" mailed me and nimit in huge excitement about internships of students. Looking at his enthusiasm , i also decided to pitch in . I know by this intership you have not been benefited a lot by time, but surely the way Amit had been driving it i was pretty sure i would be a big hit in future. But chalo for any reasons , our college's old problem , finding political reasons to make right people wrong  , you fired Amit from Sarc and humbly requested me not to CC in anything so i thought i should not interfere in college affairs. From day one of this drive, i tried using my personal contacts with people, sending them personal mails , following up with them to just try it once. Of course no one from your knew that because I added Amit in all those , since I found him enthusiastic one and a sensible one. I am not here advocating Amit or in a mood to request you to take him back in the group. Because I am sure, he also dont want to come back now and surely he will do very well without SARC also . It will not be AMIT who will be in loss with this, i can bet it will be Sarc who will realize the reality , may be not now but latter on .

Now let me come to the point why i am writing such mail . Few minutes back, I got a call from some senior and he was yelling at me for resume format . I am pretty you can't understand my position but after two year you will (when you join some organiztion). When people call you and shout at something which you have nothing to do and then things start going wrong . From past 2 weeks , i am shouting at SARC community for resumes, but frankly telling other than making people work by calling then at 4-5 times(spoiling my official meetings and my personal stuff ) and that too for 6 resumes , nothing worked out. Folks, you are not exceptions, during our times we also have organized aarohan or mutki and all those fancy stuff but we had some dedication about our duties. Personally i never took any such responsibilities which i cant make up or where i can't give my 100%.      

Can i request you one thing , if you can do it : Please add me and Nimit in your google groups so that we can request directly to the students and if they still dont listen us, please remove me and nimit form those groups and from SARC as we have lot of other things to do with our life to take unnecessary tension .

Sorry , if you are hurt but I am hurt too . I thought someone will send us some updates about college , about mukti , about coming aarohan, pdf of Deja vu , but seems like everyone wants free lunch. That philosophy might work with others, but i am not . You misunderstood me. I am a business minded person. If you help me , i will help you . Else I will have enough friends to hang out , enough work to finish off, enough movies to watch .

Please fell free to abuse me but dont send me a sorry note because I really dont entertain such numb notes. And also if you find me more arrogant, then please feel free to remove me from SARC , i will not say a single word from now.

जय हिंद,
आदित्य
P.S: Sorry for spell mistake, but my weekend is really spoiled because of you folks .

[Ebi George]

First things first, we did not fire amit from SARC!...he decided to leave of his own violition...if you have come to know about any other version of the story, well then i am sorry to inform you that you have been misinformed.

Secondly, there was no political reason behind our disapproval of amit...we had strted noticing a genuine lack of transperancy in his dealings with his ME batch and with us...moreover, he was acting in an unofficial capacity ie he held no position of responsibility to either us or his batchmates. working in the corporate world, you know better than us how importatnt a figure of authority is, and the resentment that a wildcard can cause...if the ME TPRs havent informed you of the entire reason, well I'm sure that they will soon...or I myself will send you a mail detailing it.

Thirdly, I assure you that as TPRs, our top priority is 2 get internships for our batch now, and placements later on. We have been given a position of responsibility, and we intend to giv our 100% to it. but, it is not easy getting the resumes from a batch of 50+ people. Most of them still havnt any proper CVs prepared. As such, we are having to resort to physically go 2 everyone personally and sit with them while they make their CVs. You might have got the EE, ME and the CVs of some other branches too, because of the fact that they had already been prepared for Internships like TATA STEEL, MICROSOFT etc. We are trying our very best to get this done asap. infact, the only thing that we can do more is to make their CVs for them, which is not something we want to look into.

Lastly, regarding college updates, well nothing has happened in college till now, except for the launch of Mukti. Since that happened yesterday, I was about to shoot a mail to the SARC group detailing it today! (check the SARC group soon for updates of DAY 1)..Aarohan is next week, and we will keep you informed about it...DV has just been sent to the printers and is, as such under wraps....it will hopefully be launched during the inaugration of Aarohan, and a pdf will be sent to you.

This is not an apology note. It is a mere statement of the facts as it is. If you still feel that we are not giving our 100% and are lagging behind in our duties, you are free to do as you please. But rest assured, I know that i speak for everyone when I tell you that we are giving everything that we have to this SARC group. if we haven't been able to contact you as frequently, it might be because of the fact that we are still running around to get everyone's CVs done and are hesitant to approach you without having done atleast the first job that you had asked us to do. It is proving to be a mountain more than a mole hill, but we will get it done!

[aditya dogra]

Thanks Ebi. for the updates. Really appreciate your words .

Just one clarification : I dont have any version of the story so I would like if you could have explained me the story prior to your decisions of making humble request of not adding AMIT in any of my mails. Ebi, it was not my version , nor someone else version , But it was conveyed to me that you people had some late night meeting to discuss the future of AMIT in Sarc.

Me being in corporate world for four years have seen lot of such situations and in Cisco's term we call it "Safe exit" (if done with one guy ) and "Limited restructuring" (if you fire more than 10% of work force). I am fortunate enough to see both(and never be a part of any) as "safe exits" are very common and "Limited restructuring" is always a way to deal with recession.

Now , Let me go back in the past , when Ashish da (Current NITDAA Prez) called me , sitting with T.K.Sinha and other professors . Professors and He had decided to form a new cell which will work for alumni affairs. I agreed with the idea. but on the same night , Amit sent me a mail stating about internship  and Nimit introduced me to Amit. I had a long chat with Amit and then when i was tried of typing , i called him . He told me why forming a separate body , why not TPR's can be the point of contact . I was excited with the idea. He formed sarc and drove this whole event , out of his capacity  which people having a big big posts couldn't do.

Moral of this small event of the past : Talking about tagged duties not always works. 

Next thing: I never asked for some detailed reports on college events. A single mail with not more than 250 works describing NITDGP before Mukti , a single mail commenting on the preparation of aarohan, a single mail asking alumni's to contribute in the Deja vu , a single mail describing a construction work in college, a single mail on how do you think alumni association should work , serves the purpose.

Until you really dont come out of this one sided relationship , you wont understand.

As you mentioned , right now 100% focus is on internship and jobs . Can you tell what can be my 100% focus , why should i burn my calories over talking on phones making seniors understand resumes, why should I be a part of this whole event. Neither I am some agent that I will get commission for providing helping you in interns and job, neither do i am a jobless /feckless freak. I was doing it for my college and in return i should get something .And i am not asking for some certificates or some huge favors. I am just looking for updates.

Frankly telling , it doesnt matter , if you don't provide those updates, i can get those much easier from college website. Anyways, thats how i keep alumni's website. All the content is written by me or alumnis (Thanks to Nimit who atleast played his role). So don't think you are doing some huge favors to me or to someone. I am helping you as i need something , and you help me because you need some favor.

Now coming to last point : if you think you are 100%, then i will say do more than 100% or change the units of this calculation. Because i never asked 100 resumes to be edited in 1 day , few days back I asked  you people to give me 10 resumes (5 -5 from each deaprtment) and that too after 18 hours of my first mail , I got a message from your TPR saying "Students are busy in Mukti so I will not be able to send you any resume , sorry".

I wish someday , you also be at my place and then you understand.  Aab bas , already my morning is spoiled my someone for something i never did and now i dont want to let my breakfast spoiled down.

Thanks for the mails and updates.

  

जय हिंद,
आदित्य

[Rahul S]

Dear Sir,

I am greatly ashamed by the impression that we have given you, concerning the discharge of our duties and general attitude. I will try not to make this a sorry note.

When I read your mail I realize that this is exactly the way we are feeling. I realize that the position of a TPR is a thankless one and one we have adopted on behalf of our batch-mates, out of our sense of responsibility to the college. We have been trying the best we can, but evidently that is in no way enough, and we realize that.

The alumni are an integral part of the college and if it has appeared that we have been trying to maintain a one way relationship, we realize that in some ways we have.

To clarify on the position of the direct contact you intend to have with the students, it was not an exercise to concentrate power on our parts when we tried to keep the proceedings so close knit. I have no interest in any such thing . However, since you had suggested cutoff and screenings of various natures to ensure an equitable distribution of internships among the students, we decided to mediate the entire process, so as to avoid open discords.

Concerning Amit, I would like to mention that I respect him for most of what he has done, and if it is as you say, for bringing this wonderful opportunity to us. We have no ill will towards him for whatever he has done and expect that he doesn't either. Since, as the people on the frontline, we are the ones who face all the flak, as TPR's, we had asked Amit to get convince his department to make him the TPR, so that he could cooperate with us in his full capacity. However, for whatever reasons or 'politics', that did not happen. I will not comment on the internal workings of the ME department or on whether they have any feelings of discontent with Amit, but I would say that(not sounding too patronizing). that we were evidently not too diplomatic, since you got such an impression.

I would not pain you further with my rantings. I realize that the immediate problem has been due to the CV's I had had sent over to you. I take full responsibility for any shortcomings on my part, or any errors committed by my batchmates. I see that this is not the first time we have botched up, but we are trying. I realize that I have not performed my personal duties in the regard and I would request you not to lay the effects of any ramifications of my actions on my batchmates. If you would desire so, I would no longer mediate between the alumni and my department and would confer all duties to Abhimanyu. I am extremely ashamed that any of my misgivings might have led to any untoward incident with you.

I had said that this won't be a sorry mail. But if it is of any consequence... Sorry.


Sincerely,
Rahul,

--
~Life seems so long when we live it, and so short when we look back~

[Nimit Goenka]

hi all,

@ ebi  

buddy, hold your horses. have some sense while replying to a person who is far senior than you and doing so much for the interns. As far as I know, not less than 30 mails aditya  has sent to the alumni for interns and still in regular touch with all those persons.

@ all

some things I want to clear:

1. this is Student Alumni Relationship Cell, meant for a cordial relation among us.
    we (Aditya, Amit and me) have coined this group. It is not at all compulsory that only the   TPRs will be its members. its just a requirement so that your purpose (interns, jobs, any other help) will be served. The group is open for various clubs heads , other students representatives or who can share with us the info related to good things happening in college.

2. this was the only reason, i was initially talking for at least one faculty. Simply to say, you people are not so mature and not able to see the big picture. authority, responsibility...kind of words... :)   you people had one more guy (Amit) to work with, who is more frank and involved with us than you people. if he work along with mech TPR, there can not be any prob. why didn't you harness him or all the possible ways for students' betterment. Involve other persons also. give them responsibilities of providing info to alumni, if you are overburdened. Don't think in the way that one will get any extra benefit in the future with making contacts with alumni.  :D

3. Your genuinity have been shown to us by excluding Amit. bhai logon, he was the only person behind this. For whatever reasons, even with his own will, if he is leaving this grp..its your genuine responsibility and in your favour to keep him in.

4. last, don't give us excuses that CVs are not ready, too much students (50+), Mukti - aarohan is there.  So called Professionalism don't demand this. Simply, post the demo CV on respective grps. with clear cut instructions that it should not be more than 2 pages, better one and half page. Its better to keep it as small as possible.     if students don't give the response at a due date, don't fwd to us any thing. By the way, this is the whole some job of a TPR : to make the things simple, smoother, try to capture as more as possible for their deptt.

One request:  enough has been said by me and Aditya, Now onwards, no further reply we expect by anybody. If things can be made simple and obvious, work with us, else Aditya has already told you to remove us from the group.

Sorry, for being harsh, but this was the last option for us to opt for.

 Warm Regards,
 

Nimit Goenka
+91-7838132878

Vivek Singh Memorial Trust
www.vsmemorialtrust.org

[kshitij srivastava]

Dear bhaiya,

I am one of the TPR of ME dept. and we have no ill-will towards Amit.

It was his decision not to become TPR as he had his own reasons and not of the dept., so no politics from the side of dept.

Max. students wanted him to become TPR but you know that there are always a few who don't.

Myself and Md. Raja ( TPRs of ME ) have already said him that we are pleased to work with him.

Bhaia, whatever it was, I would assure you that we will work hand-in-hand and won't give you any other chance.

Sorry for everything that happened and we assure you that everything will run smoothly hence onwards.

[Nimit Goenka]

ok then,

do you have send the demo CV to all students? it shud be as small as possible.

any other doubt regarding comp. please ask? dogra saab is here to help us.

ask every member of each grp and give some of the details, esp regarding the crrent events. it will not be a hefty job  :)   as you have to just ask and mail to us.. :) if expected,
like, deja vu, anweshan..it will be sent to all alumni then. 

 
Nimit Goenka
+91-7838132878

Vivek Singh Memorial Trust
www.vsmemorialtrust.org

[Nimit Goenka]

you peopl can refer :

http://www.examgateway.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=30

for sample CV.

Nimit Goenka
+91-7838132878

Vivek Singh Memorial Trust
www.vsmemorialtrust.org

[Rahul S]

Thanks Sir for your suggestion. We have already uploaded the CV format recommended by Aditya Dogra, and we will further forward these CV's as alternative choices for format.

Thanks,
Rahul