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fernando oliveira

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Oct 16, 2023, 8:07:01 AM10/16/23
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Hello.
I am a college student and have recently joined SARA. 
I am collecting data as part of a research class.
It seems I have successfully installed the software, and the antenna is working, but what I see on the screen does not look like all the stations it should be plotting.
I have a 3-meter diameter copper tubing dual loop outside antenna and get a signal from 6 stations. 
On the screen, I only see one line.
When I use the plot function, the files are all separated by the station; I do not have one file with all of them together.
Also, there are no legends. Once I plot a file, there is nothing showing what station the data is from.
Have I misconfigured my config file?
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Steve Berl

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Oct 16, 2023, 12:26:25 PM10/16/23
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On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 5:07 AM fernando oliveira <fernando...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello.
I am a college student and have recently joined SARA. 
I am collecting data as part of a research class.
It seems I have successfully installed the software, and the antenna is working, but what I see on the screen does not look like all the stations it should be plotting.

Congratulations! Did you use the Stanford software, or the github software? The github (https://github.com/sberl/supersid) version has a lot of bug fixes and features added. I'd recommend it over the older, not recently maintained code you can download from Stanford Supersid web site.

There are 2 different kinds of plots and I'm not sure which you mean above. There is the frequency spectrum plot you see the power being received at each different frequency. That's the first plot you attached and it shows the "humps" at frequencies where there are transmitters. The other kind is the power vs time plot. These are drawn with a single line for each frequency being monitored and look like the 2nd file you attached.
 
I see that, unless you live in Antarctica, and the picture of your antenna doesn't look like you do, you have swapped the longitude and latitude in your configuration. It would be good to fix that as the location on the earth of your receiver is important.

I have a 3-meter diameter copper tubing dual loop outside antenna and get a signal from 6 stations. 
On the screen, I only see one line.
When I use the plot function, the files are all separated by the station; I do not have one file with all of them together.

You can specify more than one file to plot, so just pick the ones you want and they should all appear on the same graph.
You could also specify in the configuration 
log_format=supersid_format
This will create a single output file per day with all the different stations in it. When you plot that file you should see all the stations listed in your configuration.

I'd also highly recommend that you join https://groups.io/g/supersid. This group is focused specifically on SuperSID and there are lots of friendly, helpful people there who can help answer your questions.

Steve
 
Also, there are no legends. Once I plot a file, there is nothing showing what station the data is from.
Have I misconfigured my config file?
Antenna.jpg

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fernando oliveira

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Oct 16, 2023, 11:11:49 PM10/16/23
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Thanks, Steve,
I am using the SuperSID version that came with the hardware. I believe it is the Stanford old software.
I was unsure what version to download from GitHub; thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
I have fixed the latitude and longitude, although I will have to reconfigure once I install the new software.
I will let you know how it goes.
So far, I like how my antenna behaves, even with the power lines so close to my home.
I work full-time and am doing full-time college. Not much time for anything. 
Hope I get some time in the next few days to install the GitHub version.

Once again thank you.

James Allen

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Oct 18, 2023, 9:55:41 PM10/18/23
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Can someone tell me where I can purchase a replacement power supply for the new Super Sid receiver and/or provide the specs such as required voltage and connector.  
Thanks

jpett...@gmail.com

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Oct 18, 2023, 10:17:32 PM10/18/23
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James,

 

The SuperSID no longer uses an external power supply, it uses the USB connection for power. What makes you think you need a new power supply?

 

Jonathan

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Jim Brown

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Oct 19, 2023, 9:08:27 AM10/19/23
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The SID receiver doesn't use a power supply.  It draws it's power from the USB connector.

JB
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Tom Crowley

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Oct 19, 2023, 9:17:49 AM10/19/23
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The original SuperSIDs used a wall wart.  Not sure if it was 5 or 12 VDC.

 

Tom Crowley

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From: Jim Brown
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To: 'James Allen' via Society of Amateur Radio Astronomers
Subject: Re: [SARA] SuperSID Power Supply

 

The SID receiver doesn't use a power supply.  It draws it's power from the USB connector.

JB

James Allen

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Oct 19, 2023, 12:25:53 PM10/19/23
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Thanks Jim.  The round tin box receiver has one BNC connector for the antenna, a second cable with a USB connector pluged into an external sound card and a third cable with a jack plug that I had assumed was a power cord.  What is that cable for?


James Allen

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Oct 19, 2023, 12:29:16 PM10/19/23
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Thanks Jonathan.  What is the second cable with the jack plug used for?

James Allen

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James Allen

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Oct 19, 2023, 12:31:34 PM10/19/23
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Thanks Jim.  What is the second cable with a jack plug for?

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James Allen

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Oct 19, 2023, 12:35:56 PM10/19/23
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jpett...@gmail.com

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Oct 19, 2023, 12:56:59 PM10/19/23
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The USB cable is the power cable, it uses 5 volts from a USB socket - there is no data connection. The round plug plugs into a mic or mic/headphone socket and takes the signal from the SuperSID and puts it into the soundcard, an internal or external one. You have the external sound card, so that needs to be plugged into a USB socket as well. The round cable will plug into the socket closest to the volume control on the soundcard, marked by a microphone symbol. The BNC connector connects the cable from the antenna to the SuperSID. Once you have done all of those things the hardware is set up correctly.

 

Next, you will have to install the software, it will not run correctly until you have edited the configuration file. Instructions on how to do this are included on the USB stick that was included in the kit.

 

There may be some tweaks you have to make such as making sure the external soundcard is the default for recording, that it is set to 96kHz sampling rate, that there are no audio enhancements, and that the level is set to 100% to start with. All of this is achieved through the windows “Control Panel, Sound”.

 

Let me know if you need any further help.

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James Allen

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Oct 19, 2023, 2:09:24 PM10/19/23
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Thanks Jonathan.  I think I now understand what to do.  Will contact you when I get stuck again.  Really appreciate your help.
James

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Oct 19, 2023, 2:51:59 PM10/19/23
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James,

 

The web page at http://solar-center.stanford.edu/SID/sidmonitor/ has the latest SuperSID manual for more information about how the system works. There is a user group you are invited to join at https://groups.io/g/supersid.  We hope users will post their questions, observations, etc., and share their experiences and knowledge with the group.

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James Allen

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Oct 19, 2023, 6:22:15 PM10/19/23
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Thanks Jonathan

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